Batman Under The Red Hood is the Most BRUTAL DC Movie We've Seen
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Joker being dead isn't a failure of Batman, it's a failure of the justice system. The onus is not on Batman to kill the Joker, it's the government's job to give death sentences to serial mass murderers, and they keep just slapping him in Arkham. Saying Batman should kill villains is like saying a firefighter should go round killing arsonists.
That’s a very great way of looking it at, mind if I use that
Batman specifically doesn’t like to be Judge and Executioner. He wants to catch the criminals the cops can’t and if they’re put to death that’s out of his hands. The Robot Chicken skit of Joker being put on the chair would legitimately happen if it ever came to that. He doesn’t care if Joker dies so long as it’s under the Law.
I can’t believe this still needs to be said, “Batman’s responsible for villains killing” is probably one of the most annoying remnants of pop culture subversion and it doesn’t seem like it’ll ever leave.
Batman’s been confronted about this before, he had to choose between saving Orca’s life or letting her drown. He knows she’ll return to villainy, but he reminds her (and the audience) that he’s not responsible for the choices that people make. If they want to use the life he just saved to murder people, that’s on them.
And yes, the idea that Batman, whose main function is solving mysteries and *stopping* people, has to take it a step further is a selfish mindset. The dude dedicated his entire life to picking up the trash that Gotham City creates, and now you’re going to demand that he take the bins out too or it doesn’t count? Disgusting.
From what i heard gotham is set in texas and they dont have the death sentence there.
Nah. Batman should do it. He's the only one that can. Joker escapes out if jail All the time.
To make it clear, Nightwing (NPH's character) is Dick Grayson, the Robin in Teen Titans
Is he did he ever actually give his name? I don’t remember it would make the most sense though. No yeah he did have a relationship with StarFire.
@@jamaljohnson1789 in Teen Titans Season 2 Episode 14, Starfire literally goes to the future and meets Nightwing (Robin).
@@marvin3992also the ptsd episode had a circus flashback that is pretty straighforward If you ask me
Larry is Robin from an Alternate Dimension and Larry's real name is spelled Nosyarg Kcid.
@@jamaljohnson1789
@@jamaljohnson1789 I mean it was cofirmed in season 3 he was dick graysin. When he was having visions when slade got in his mind and raven tried to soothe him we see, his parents falling to their death at the circuis, which was his origin story.
The craziest part about Jason’s death in the comics is that it happened because of the fans. He wasn’t very popular during his time as Robin, so DC made a poll for whether or not to kill him off, and the kill option barely won, so they had the Joker kill him the same way he did in the movie. The story of him coming back as the Red Hood that this movie was adapting didn’t happen until years later
Gotta love the irony
The vote was actually really close, and he might have lived if not for some salty lawyer douchebag setting up his phone to spam the number with "kill" votes. Were it not for him cheating the system, much like Joker does by claiming insanity, Jason would have lived.
(DC would have found some other way to get rid of him, though. I don't think they had a storyline in mind where he lived and returned to hero work after recovery.)
A lot of the dislike for Jason's early incarnation came from his first origin story basically being a carbon copy of Dick Grayson's, down to him being an orphaned circus kid, but the hatred for the scrappy (but ultimately sweet and fiercely protective) street rat we got later was rooted firmly in classism. Of course DC decided to 'course-correct' immediately by making the next Robin, Tim, a rich boy.
I can't wait for DC to just retire the character already, they treat Red Hood like shit these days. How many times do we need the same "Jason Todd takes drastic measures and gets punched into unconsciousness and yelled at by batman until he remembers murder bad" storyline? It's done worse each time they try. Jason needs to be cut free from the Bat Mafia.
Supposedly, people have suspected for years that they were going to kill him anyway. There’s been no proof that there was ever a version of the comic in which Jason lives
There's also the problem that the original Jason Todd is nothing at all like the modern version. He's not the cussing hardass that he is now. The original was more like a combination of Dick Grayson and Carrie Kelley.
Craziest part to me that everyone forgets… is Jason’s own mother gives him over to Joker. 100% knowing what he’s going to do to her son.
"Why don't the hero's just kill the villains?"
I don't know? If they're that dangerous in the first place, then why doesn't the city, let alone state, not sentence them to the death penalty? Batman isn't the jury, judge, and executioner. Neither does he want to be. If anyone's to blame, it's the justice system and the governing body not doing what needs to be done.
Both the system and Batman are at fault
@sarveshnathan7559 How is it Batman's fault? He's not the law. He's not obligated to kill. He chooses to arrest them. It's the system that keeps letting these people live.
@@alphawolf7417 "He's not obligated to kill"
Nor is he obligated to be a crime fighter.
"It's the system that keeps letting these people live."
And yet Batman chooses not to rectify this by killing the Joker because of the failed system.
@sarveshnathan7559 Yeah, he's not obligated to be a crime fighter, but he chooses to be and chooses as his own rule, not to kill. Being a crime fighter doesn't automatically mean killing villains.
Bats has caught the Joker hundreds of times, but his own rules mean he won't kill him. That decision is up to authorities, who, for some reason (writing), do not.
DC comics morals si always never kill. because taking life sins justified by anyone. no matter WHO it is. thats why we have our justice system the way it is ,(minus death penalty thing )
DC animation is better than 90% of their live action material
I agree. They have the materials but won't use it 😢
Dc could dominate all media like Disney does, but theu chose not to. Kinda like batmans "no kill" rule.
Fr and it’s sad the live action can’t be near as good
oh shut up
Because LA can't get past forming the justice league while the juicy stuff is after or before it
"is the MOST BRUTAL DC MOVIE we've seen!"
That's just tip of the iceberg.
They would never be the same again if they watched more
Laughs in Justice League Dark: Apokolips War
fr 😂
@Stuntmachine14 Oh they would be freaking out for pretty much the whole movie. That and Flashpoint Paradox are just brutal.
@Stuntmachine14, that would be way down the line. They have to watch all of the others before that. It goes way too hard!
The reason that Robins don't have full body protection is so they don't become used to being armored as they get older. That way they learn to never let themselves be hit in the first place as opposed to relying on armor to cushion a blow. I am not going to say it is a good thing to put children into battle without armor though or at all.
Huh. I always assumed it was an agility thing. The Robins are typically gymnasts or in Dick's case, a circus stuntman. They tend to be faster and more agile than Bruce and they rely more on speed and hit-and-run tactics as opposed to brute force like Batman, who often makes himself the main target in a given combat encounter anyway, which would take the heat off Robin and put him in a support role. Since battle armor is heavy and oftentimes bulky, it could hamper their movements it'd be more of a detriment and ironically put them at greater risk than if they cut down to the most minimal and most light-weight armor possible. At least, that's what I always figured.
@MaskedSongbird Honesty, that is just as good a explanation. It's probably both.
Please Everyone Knows You Don't Armor Your Meat-Sheilds it Makes them Less Appealing as Targets & if the Meat-Shields Aren't Disracting the Enemies Drawing their Fire then What Good are they Like One of Guys Said Orphans are a Dime a Dozen (Probably Not the Exact Words But Same Meaning)
no offense but this is very stupid
@ibuprofriends Oh definitely but it's fun so I don't care too much.
Keep watching the DC animated movies! There's roughly 70 of them and most of them are available on HBO. Lots of them are dark and violent like this movie!
Also *FUN FACT:* There's 4 Robins in this order:
-Dick Grayson: Grows up and becomes Nightwing
-Jason Todd: Gets beat the shit out of by the Joker and becomes Red Hood
-Tim Drake: Grows up and becomes Red Robin (yum!)
-Damian Wayne: Biological Son of Bruce Wayne
Not to mention Stephanie Brown, but yeah.
.. and Carrie Kelly, but I guess she's technically not cannon? 🤔
Disrespecting Steph Brown smfh
you forgot 2 of them stephanie brown and carrie kelly (not sur if that's how it's spelled)
@@EpicHelios83Of course she's not a cannon. She's a human girl, not a big weapon that shoots really heavy balls.
Sorry. I couldn't resist.
This is actually mostly canon. Back in the day Dick Grayson got fed up with Bruce and left, so they introduced a new Robin named Jason Todd. He was more violent than Dick and readers weren’t as much of a fan of him. So they had him captured and then had a poll that people could call int and vote for weather Jason lives or dies, in the end it was dies (there a theory someone hooked up his computer to his phone to vote numerous times to kill him).
Jason then was later brought back as the Red Hood just like in this movie. The next Robin was named Tim Drake. The 4th Robin is Bruce’s son Damien Wayne who was raised by Ras and the assassins of his guild.
@@lokimiguel2452Steph and Cassandra Cain truthers rise up ✊
@@lokimiguel2452Stephanie was only in TDKR, and I think it’s more than fair to leave her off the list of typical Robins since she doesn’t appear anywhere else whereas Dick, Jason, Tim and Damien all have various appearances across different DC media.
@@Longshanks1690 That's Carrie Kelly. Stephanie Brown is Spoiler/Batgirl, and did a brief stint as Robin before dying (she got better).
@@EthanKWaters Oh yeah, that’s right, oops. 🤣
But even leaving that mistake of mine aside, Stephanie has never been in a DC show or movie - to my knowledge at least, which as we’ve established is faulty lol - but the OP on this thread was explaining to the guys what the different Robins are in the DC media they’ll be reacting to so I think it’s fair to leave her off since they’re not going to encounter her.
Unless they start doing comic reactions or something. 🤣
@@Longshanks1690 Steph Brown is rarely in adapted media because people keep disrespecting her character so DC doesn't push her. Also she was in Young Justice.
"Teen Titans hasn't been doing this right". Teen Titans is family joy mostly for kids. What you're watching was not aimed exclusively for kids. Trust me, DC has some animation at PG-13 that people question if it should have been Rated R.
EDIT: It does amaze me of how people replying really are slow and can't tell what I meant and really are trying to hint that Teen Titans is hardly any different from this movie or any of the DC Animated Movies.
And some _actually_ rated R lol.
@@tannakota1846 Hope they react to some of them.
Im just remembering some of the starfire scenes in batman and robin
Pretty similar to anime. Some are action based for kids others are for teens to young adults
Slade was anything but joy and family friendly
Dunno if someone's already said it, but "Crime Alley" is one of the most infamous landmarks in Gotham. It's where Thomas & Martha Wayne were gunned down.
Technically it became Crime Alley after the Wayne's mugging. A billionaire couple was not dumb enough to walk down an alley literally named 'crime'.
"This is the best day of my life"
This was the emotional pay off at the end of the movie.
Bruce has been tormenting himself over his mistakes and this line is the conclusion to that in my mind.
So I'm really sad it didn't make it into the edit.
You guys will be surprised to know Nightwing is voiced by Neil Patrick Harris
WHAT?!???
@@JoshTB007I mean John Dimagiio is the same voice actor Bender and Jake the dog and he’s Joker
@@kaeaedwin7937 yeah he has a distinct voice I didn’t know Neil Patrick Harris was nightwing at all
They know. They saw it in the opening credits.
@@robmarsh918they never realised Neil was nightwing
Speaking of Batman, watch the Animated series. It's totally worth it 👌.
Yess
HELL YESS
And batman beyond
YES!
There’s so many animated dc shit they gotta watch
A few things.
1. The way Batman operates, he makes himself the main target, and Robin operates more on agility/hit and run.
2. Batman doesn't believe vigilantes have the right to choose who lives or dies. It's also a slippery slope. It always starts with an understandable motive. Killing Joker makes sense. But where does it end? Once he kills Joker, it becomes "Well, you killed Joker, why not this person too?" If vigilantes won't obey the law, why should they expect everyone else to?
3. There are Batmen who kill. And every single one of them has gone too far. They start with the rational kills, then it eventually just becomes "You broke the law, die."
Also, you guys should really watch the DCAMU. It's a huge continuity of animated films that were really damned good, and it even brings in all the Titans from the animated series, though closer to comic accuracy.
As for Robins, here's the order it usually goes in: Dick Grayson, who is Robin in Teen Titans and becomes Nightwing. Jason Todd, the Robin who died here and became Red Hood. Tim Drake, the third Robin who goes on to become Red Robin. Sometimes Stephanie Brown is a Robin, and later on becomes a hero called Spoiler. Then it typically goes to Damian, Bruce's son. You can tell it's him because he carries a sword most of the time.
Finally, a fun little trivia bit about Nightwing: his name is sometimes stated to come from a Kryptonian bird. So he goes from honoring Batman to honoring Superman.
Your 3rd point is more of a generalization. The Batman of the Batman Motion Picture Anthology certainly killed people but by his final film he actually just doesn't kill. Not to mention the original Batman who also killed.
@@J__TI mean the original Batman killing was sometimes straight up evil, like the time he hung a man from his plane.
@@SWAHswah-tm7sn sorry *hanged
@@SWAHswah-tm7sn Oh, you mean the mentally ill man he hanged from the Bat-plane and legit said "Maybe it's better this way."?
I would like to point out, that Jason did all this at the age of around 18-19. This boy killed so many people and got Black Mask to get the Joker involved just so Jason could use Joker in his revenge. I love him, Jason is my favorite and man he don't need any fixing. I also have the "What hurts more" line stuck in my head and I want to cry every time I hear it. Also the reason Jason told the drug dealers not to sell to kids is, when he was a child his mother OD and his father was in prison so he was on the streets and as a Crime Alley child, he's seen how the streets are for kids, he was one of the kids who had to survive. So as the Red Hood he wants to make sure that no kid has to deal with what his mother went through.
Fun fact: the episode that red x returned on teen titans Jason Todd was one of beat boys suspects on his board
Now if the og Teen Titans ever gets a continuation (like the 90s X-Men) it would be cool if Red X was Jason then he could later become Red Hood like in Arkham Knight
Doubt that would happen since Red-X was created long before Red Hood II. Even current comics featuring Red-X keep his identity a secret.
@@J__T I mean you can take liberties when making a tv show based on comics. Remember that the 90s Batman made their own characters instead of using just the already established characters (plus they made Tim Drake the second Robin instead of Jason).
@@zeldagameryt4018 They made Tim Drake #2 because Jason's story ends in a death far too violent for the targeted audience. And by taking liberties with specific characters you can just end up with the same problem Rocksteady had where the Arkham Knight is just the poorly made Red Hood. Not to mention that Red-X in Teen Titans refers to Robin as 'kid' which would make zero sense if he's canonically younger. He also bests Robin in combat and Jason hardly ever wins against Dick. There's other points around it for why Red-X most likely isn't Jason.
@@J__T You say it was too violent but this was the same show that gave us a Batgirl death scene, Robin being tortured by Joker then killing him with a flag gun, and most importantly of all a legit story of a man who’s son got addicted to drug and his (friend/brother?) getting hit by a train.
For a darker DC teen cartoon, greatly recommend Young Justice after Teen Titans. Or during Teen Titans. Whatever works for you guys.
They would be so lost while watching Young Justice 😂 I mean, it’s in the channel name. It would still be kinda fun though
@@diegopansini3152 agreed
Young justice is so good I’d love if they watched it
Here's some important history on this storyline. Way back when Jason Todd was first introduced in the comics, fans were incredibly pissed at this new kid replacing Dick Grayson, especially since Jason was younger than when Dick usually operated as Robin, to the point where they put it to a fan vote whether or not Jason would live or die in the next issue after being taken by the Joker, and die got the majority. People were genuinely annoyed by the new Robin, that they wanted him to die. It's crazy to think about, honestly.
He also was pretty much a carbon copy of Dick Grayson. Same personality, same acrobatics despite not being an acrobat whatsoever.
Though it was actually pretty close, turns out one singular person hated him so much they cheated the system and set up a code to constantly hit the kill vote. To this day, it's one of the craziest irl origin stories for a character and eerily close to what happened to Jason.
The fact that they didn't know anything about Red Hood made this 10x better
Yeah, so for quick clarification the 1st Robin, Grayson, is the same Robin in Teen Titans but younger. These two things aren't canon but just general timeline wise the first Robin is the Robin of the Teen Titans show.
If this is the start of a DCAU movie journey, I'M 100% ALL IN! 💜
While I do think watching the DCAU is a good idea, this movie is not canon to the DCAU, it's just an adaptation of the comic.
Same
In most comic continuities, Ra's and Batman meet long after Batman has been trained and Ra's goal in most cases was to make Batman his successor, but of course his methods are too extreme and the Lazarus Pit's side effects can be deadly, so Batman is always at odds with Ra's.
Also fun fact: When the Under the Red Hood comic came out, Ra's had nothing to do with Jason's death or resurrection. Jason is resurrected during the events of Infinite Crisis, Superboy Prime decides to punch a hole into reality, causing events to shatter and change. One of those events is Jason's death, and he literally digs himself out of his own grave and becomes Red Hood. This has since been retconned and the general consensus is that Jason was brought back by the Lazarus Pit
I love that Jason's knife is half of a batarang he turned into a knife, and that's why it's so effective
Time for The Flashpoint Paradox lol
Heck yeah man. That in my opinion is in my top 3 DC animated movies
John Dimaggio as Joker is amazing, and I wish the DCU got more attention (and Tim being part of it outside of BTAS-related content).
Ra’s training Bruce is something that only happens in the Nolan films, the League is typically a foe Batman faces when he’s established himself for a while depending on the version.
And Ra's really wants Bruce to knock up Talia.
Not really, that also happens in the comics, Bruce famously trained with the league of assassins in his youth, that’s where he met Talia and Ghostmaker, there is a bunch of comics about that time period
what are you talking about lmaoooo Rhas ALWAYS trains batman
How does this blatantly wrong statement have so many likes 😂
It seems like the 58 people that liked this comment don't know batman comics
You gotta watch:
-Son of Batman
-Batman vs. Robin
- Batman: Bad Blood
- Justice League vs. Teen Titans
A lot more amazing DC movies to watch, but these all go together in this order.
Yesyesyesyesyes
Dont forget 'BATMAN BEYOND : RETURN OF THE JOKER"
I actually want them to react to "Young Justice " now
Batman The Animated Series and Young Justice!
Well after watching the reaction I think they need to cover the basics first 😅 like BTAS and JLTAS and JLU, or they won't know many characters
@@sahin1645 yes, Superman The Animated Series too
This has my vote
SHould be Titans!
This was when DC's animated films were much better than they currently are. I always looked forward to which film they planned to do next.
Jason Todd was also originally not liked by readers so the comics did a call in poll for his fate. Thus the death in the family.
It’s actually still pretty good now. Crisis on Infinite Earths fucking SLAPPED
Really? I thought it was good
@@versati1eceoBro…shit was boring as hell
@@lokimiguel2452no shot you used that unironically
@@lokimiguel2452 what? For not reading a comic?
A part of me misses that Superboy punching the walls of reality was how Jason was brought back to life.
That would be too long to explain in one movie, plus talia used the lazarus pit later anyway, to heal him and give him his memories back. I do miss how he was able to survive for years like a zombie, merely on his fighting reflexes. That was badass
“Them saying this is dark”
(the flashpoint paradox and apocalypse war)
*demonic screeching
They aren’t ready 🤣
Jason is my favorite Wayne child and Red Hood is very fun the severed heads in a duffle bag is honestly dope and one hell of a way to make a point
Under the Red Hood was a great adaptation for the Jason Todd story, Joe DiMaggio did quite well as Joker too. So Jason Todd - the edgy Robin before Damian, designed as such to make him distinguished compared to Dick - was the first Robin to 'die', beaten brutally by Joker with a crowbar until he had a collapsed lung and then left in an exploding building, Joker had lured Jason there by using his mother as a hostage too but Jason died in the blast, per a controversial fan vote which is assumed to have been tampered by people making multiple votes. The 'Red Hood' is also a riff on one of Joker's many origins, supposedly a mantle he took before he fell into the chemicals, Jason - revived by the Lazarus Pit, a pool Ra's al Ghul has access to that can restore people at a price and usually loss of sanity - took on the mantle and became the gun-toting no prisoners taking antihero he is here. Red Hood is popular though, because his logic is sound most of Gotham would be safer if Joker was dead.
Amazo is from the comics as well, he's mainly a cyborg with a pool of the Justice League's powers, Justice League Unlimited's show did Amazo pretty well. Black Mask is another canon villain too, more a classic rich guy being a mob boss. Ra's knows that Bruce is Batman but not because he trained him, he deduced it himself given how he's very smart and ancient, he did like in the Nolan Trilogy want Bruce to succeed him though.
DC animated movies are often top tier, though it's rough for Nightwing fans because he's usually the Vegeta of the movie, designed to get beaten up for someone else to get the W.
but also 'laughs in Apokolips War'
The justice league made him trash
Having Jake, the Dog voice Joker is so goddamn genius because he does such a good job
he was also marcus fenix in the gears of war series as well.
@@MrCageCat oh yeah, I forgot about that. Been awhile since I watched Futurama. I fucking love Bender. He is goddamn hilarious.
15:47 Jensen actually voices Batman in the Tomorrowverse movies
In the Joker vs Pennywise Epic Rap Battle, Joker says “ask Robin if I drop bars” while he’s holding a crowbar and in the background you see him hitting something on the ground.
Or in this one fan video he picks up a crowbar and says “oh the memories”
Ew
Some of the most interesting things about villians is their relationship with the hero. Ra's among probably Bane and Joker highly respect Batman's capabilties as a opponent. One of the little things I like from the animated series is he would always refer to Batman as detective.
This and Superman Elite is one of my favorite DC comic animated movies
41:52 This is my reference point whenever someone complains about Batman not killing instead of them making a sound argument.
DC is run by a bunch of cowards for not letting Joker be put to death by the state, and more importantly having it stick, instead of having some stupid survival and/or revival, we need less Joker not more, he’s overplayed and overhyped.
@@xero2135 And that is a reasonable take from a meta point of view.
I can understand why Batman doesn't kill but the 'that where it starts, where does it end' is the dumbest defense. It's like saying if you kill one person, you'll just go psycho and start killing everyone you see. If there's a shooter and an armed civilian shoots and kills this shooter, the armed civilian is not going to go on a rampage. That's absurd. The killing of Joker or other villains is the dumbest thing in DC. Would really like if there was one universe where the justice system actually exists. Even if the feds come in to execute Joker because the state is failing to uphold the law - y'know like real life for actual real life murderers.
Honestly I'm just shocked that not ONE of the GCPD officers or Arkham orderlies just put a bullet in Jokers head while he's asleep in a cell.
Even if they go to prison for murder there's no way the state wouldn't be at least a little lenient in the sentencing for someone killing the freaking Joker. I blame DC not wanting to kill off a popular character.
Batman the Animated Series is definitely a must for this channel
Aside from Mask of the Phantasm, this is definitely one of the best animated Batman movies.
Gotta say that I put Return of the Joker right up there with them
@@SpiralSine6so many good ones
Before diving into the animated movie universes here’s some fun one-shot DC films
- Crisis on Two Earths (Justice League vs evil counterparts)
- Justice League: The New Frontier (JL origin if they were in the 50s, wonderful tribute to silver age of comics)
- Justice League Doom (The JL is defeated by a league of villains)
- Deathstroke: Knights and Dragons (origin/about Deathstroke’s family)
- Justice League: Flashpoint Paradox (technically kicks off the DCAMU but it works as a solo Flash film too)
I will always recommend the Superman/Batman movies: Public Enemies and Apocalypse. Good solid fun with stellar casts and animation
@@EthanKWaters those are great movies, I’d just be worried they’d be overwhelmed by characters and lore that they do not know.
Can’t believe I forgot to recommend Assault on Arkham (suicide squad movie)
@@No8Named8Shadow The most important parts are explained in the movies, so I doubt they'll be scratching their heads too much. No more than they did in this one two seconds before the movie was gonna explain it for them. /s
Y'all NEED to watch Dark Knight Returns Parts I and II.
Oh fuck yeah
Ah yes, the PEAK of DC Comics movies
FAX
Okay, no intention of rushing you guys, but maybe one day in the future you have to check out the DCAMU films. It's a sixteen film arc (with one little short film in between) that's pretty solid.
Justice league war is high on recommendations for me
No they suck in my opinion
@@kickbrosmasher5155 that's fine, the fight scenes are awesome in my opinion but I can see your point. They kinda do suck from a certain standpoint
Nah they gotta hit the classics. BTAS, Batman Beyond, maybe even The Batman if they're punk like that
To the question of why doesn't Batman kill the Joker? My personal response is: why is that Batman's responsibility? Why hasn't a court sentenced the Joker to death? Why has some cop just shot Joker in the head once Batman hands the Joker over to them?
Yeah lol honestly that's what people, myself included forget. Like why doesn't Gotham have the death penalty, why wouldn't a lone cop just execute him. Why isn't Arkham actually better secure given who they house not counting Joker.
The movie did a good reason why jason todd come back to life, because in the comics is a crazy reason, he come back in Crisis of Infinites Earths saga when the Superboy prime punch the wall of Reality and this affects all the multiverse changes things in everywhere, one of those things is the corpse of Jason todd literally get out of the tomb, but in the movie Ras al ghul use the Lazaro pond
You guys should watch Kaiserneko’s video of Batman’s Bad Plan of what would happen if Jason still shot Joker after Batman walked away, it’s hilarious.
It's great that you've started seeing DC animated films!
Why does Batman wear dark colors?
So he doesn't get shot.
Why does Robin wear bright colors?
So Batman doesn't get shot
What makes the storyline even more twisted, is in the comics when Jason Todd was first captured by the Joker there was a number you could call in the back as to whether or not, you wanted him to live or to die. People chose for him to die, because they particularly didn’t like that adaptation of Robin I believe, they were more used to Grayson who was a little bit more happy go lucky.
YES YES YES UNDER THE RED HOOD this is my favorite dc animated movie jason is my favorite dc character his story is fantastic imo and this move does Jason correctly I also love how they added multiple new routes the story could go
The animated movies do go way darker then the tv shows
I really like how Batman and Alfred leave the costume in the cave at the end and say it changes nothing, that Jason died, even though it seemed like his body wasn't in the rubble, because it doesn't matter if Red Hood comes back, that's not the Jason they knew. That's something that always stuck with me.
Yo cool, I didn't expect that the animated DC movies are super fun.
Some even have their own continuity between each one.
Also the cruelest part about Jason's death is that it was the reader's choice; the original comic had a cliffhanger ending, and the fans could vote by calling an 0800 number on whether or not they wanted Robin to die, and the majority said yes.
Actually it’s been found out that the majority of people wanted Jason to live. The reason he ended up dying anyway is because apparently someone rigged up there computer to call up the number and vote to kill Jason several hundred times. In fact in the final tally of the poll numbers, killing Jason was only up by about 50 votes. So technically Jason would’ve lived if it wasn’t for this one guy.
One of my favorite movies, period. I rewatch this at least once a year.
there's 2 teen titans movies in the animated universe btw! Teen Titans VS Justice League and Teen Titans: The Judas Contract! u should def check them out
theres some small changes in them that i dont particularly like, for example aging raven down for some reason, but they're still good
“This is the best day of my life.” Will always hit hard.
Bro, the amount of times I’ve seen this movie, that quote and scene always makes me teary. As a dc fan, it’s soo good.
The sound design in that opening scene of the Joker beating Robin with a crowbar (which, holy balls that's a dark opening), is absolutely incredible. The 'crunch' sound added in with each hit just makes it seem like there is so much weight to the crowbar and each impact.
Thanks for reacting to this guys! My favorite DC movie about my favorite DC character!!!!
The sad part is that, while this movie only portrays it as a few hours alone with the Joker, the comics show that Jason was tortured WITH HIS MOTHER by Joker before Batman finally found them, and by then...
No, they don't. That's only in Arkham Knight. In the comics, it happened almost exactly like in the movie, except it was in Africa and Jason's mother was in the warehouse with him.
There, fixed it.
So... y'all judged all of DC animation on freakin Teen Titans? WTF bro... Watch Mask of the Phantasm next. The fandom agrees that its tied with this one as the best animated Batman movie.
44:30 Batman said, "I need to hide in the shadows. So let me put these kids in colorful outfits to distract bad guys while I'm in the shadows."
Yes please go down a DC animation rabbit hole there are so many gems.
1:05 😆 was thinking about Teen Titans Robin and this Robin now lol
Jason's final line "this is the best day of my life!" made me hurt in the gut everytime I rewatch this movie.
The dude at the beginning with blue is Dick Grayson aka Nightwing, the first robin from the teen titans show. Jason Todd was the second Robin who was killed by Joker back in the 80s i think and what's messed up is it was a call in survey and the fans decided jason should die. It wasn't until 2000s or so when he was brought back to life in comics.
The Big reason batman doesn't kill is what he said. It'd be too easy and once he did it he fears that he will keep killing.. there have been a few stories out there that he let himself go and he just kept killing the villains to the point he even killed clark/superman because he could be a threat. He doesn't kill because he knows he would lose himself if he did.
This was an amazing reaction. You guys kill it.
Still one of the most underrated versions of Joker ever
jason Todd's origin story both as Robin and the Red hood are absolutely tragic but goddamn, he'll always be my favourite DC character
Its always fun watching someone react to these iconic stories in some way or form when they arent familiar with the Character and story elements very well. Even if its not shocking to me anymore because ive seen it so many times in so many forms, its still nice to see people reacting to it/learning from it for the first time and genuinely being shocked or surprised by it.
I HIGHLY recommend The Flashpoint Paradox movie
Also Return of the Joker is AMAZING!!!!!
The funniest part is that it was the fans who voted to kill the 2nd Robin
Dick Grayson, the first Robin now Nightwing, originally made the robin costume based on his costume as a circus acrobat before his parents died. He's a much more agile fighter so a full suit would just hinder him (comic book logic). Jason Todd wore the same outfit and never changed it before he died. Tim Drake, the third Robin, was the one to change the suit to what we usually see including pants and more protection. DC has later gone and retconned a lot of stuff so in shows or comics so you will see Dick or Jason wearing pants.
Omg im a huge comic fan both dc and marvel and seeing you guy's reaction to these big comic moments are so funny and cool to watch. Cant wait for more of yalls content
YES!!! You're finally reacting to one of the best Batman stories ever! No joke, Red Hood will always be one of my favorite DC/CB characters ever, not only because his design is RIDICULOUSLY badass, but because of how deep of a character he is & how right he is regarding Batman's "No Killing" rule.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE watch Superman vs the elite, it's the single best Superman movie period
It’s not zombies 💀 it’s called the Lazarus pit and it provides youth and life but it’s very dangerous
You guys should defenitly watch other DC animations, young justice would be awesome.
Please you must watch these animated movies:
Batman: The Dark Knight Returns part 1 and part 2
Batman: Year One
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Superman vs The Elite
And the universe of movies that started with Flashpoint and ended with Apokolips War
such an amazing movie!
love that channel and the DC content you’re bringing 🖤
Fun fact: the joker is voiced by the same dude who voices Jake the dog from Adventure time
Another great set of animated Batman movies is The Dark Knight Returns Parts 1&2!!!
I was hoping you'd do more DC content
Yes, Ra's Al Ghul knows who Batman is. They have a weird, complicated history. It's almost a friendship, as in, they're on speaking terms. And every time Batman beats him, Ra's just gets happier...because he sees Batman as an heir, and he wants a strong, intelligent heir
There’s a whole DC animated movie universe that starts with “the flashpoint paradox” I highly recommend checking them out
Awesome one of my favorite DC movies, really hoping you check out ''Crisis on Two Earth'' soon.
Would absolutely love to see yall react to Avengers Earth's Mightest Heros. That show is incredible, and I know you guys would love it
Welcome to your DC history lesson! All of this happened in the comics just a different degrees. These animated movies go hard!
The story you're talking about there at the end is from the "Injustice" storyline which is an alternate universe for the DC/Mortal Kombat fighting game series "injustice". In it Joker kidnapped Lois Lane who was pregnant with Supermans baby, connected a heartrate monitor between her and a nuke hidden in metropolis, doused Superman in a combination of Scarecrows fear gas and kryptonite which made him see lois lane as "Doomsday" so that he would murder his own wife and unborn child which would trigger the nuke.
Joker is apprehended and while Batman is interrogating him a grief-stricken Superman crashes in and punches his arm straight through Jokers chest. This leads to Superman taking over earth as a self-deluding dictator who thinks he's doing the right thing protecting everyone from themselves and the Justice League is split between Batman's resistance faction and Superman and Wonder womans regime. Another notable difference is that Lex Luthor is a good guy.
There are far worse exampled of mass murders in the main continuity of comics with "The batman who laughs" who's basically "Jokers insanity takes over Batman after he kills him" That guy murdered countless universes.
I’m glad you enjoyed this! I’d recommend The Long Halloween Parts 1 and 2 after liking this, but all of the animated Batman films are worth a watch.
The opening scene is based off the comic a death in a family and the rest of the movie is based off the comic under the red hood
And his called red hood because that’s the jokers old Moniker before he became the joker
And last thing theirs be 5 canon robins(Ik theirs more but I’m talking about pre-52)
Dick Grayson the 1st robin he’s the one that y’all are watching in teen titans
Jason Todd
Tim drake
Stephanie brown
And Damian Wayne the last robin son of Batman
And A Death in the Family was the result of a call-in poll asking if Jason Todd should live or die.
@@TheLyokoWarriorswhich resulted in us getting one of the coolest comic characters ever 😂
@@lokimiguel2452you’re talking about yourself?
In canon Jason’s (Robin who ‘dies’) mom helped Joker kill him. Crazy dark.
Y’all should definitely check out The Dark Knight Rises Part 1 and 2, Justice League Doom, Justice League War, Son of Batman, Justice League vs Teen Titans, and Batman vs Ninja Turtles! Does are my favorite DC animated movies currently.
Jason Todd, the robin killed by the fans. Seriously, Fans initially hated Jason Todd for replacing Dick Grayson (Robin #1) and his edgy attitude. DC set up a phone line to decide weather Jason would live or die in that first scene, and the end result was "kill him"
From what I recall when they revealed the votes it was really really close tho like almost damn near 50/50
@@frontdoor3417Oh yeah, down to the wire!
Fun fact: a guy called or voted multiple times to kill Jason Todd . So thanks to him, he got one of DC’s most beloved and multifaceted character - Red Hood
Batman stories have been Dark but this story was the darkest of the Bat's tales
The Killing Joke would like to have a word
Fair.
The knife is a gift from Taila
The head gear, the kids doesn't want to wear it. Tim red robin had a cowl for his first suit but the secnd and third suit he took the cowl away.
At the end when you guy were talking about Joker nuking Metropolis is from the Injustice universe. There's a movie, games and comics for that and it's one of my favorites.
Sometimes when I think about Batman, I kind of feel bad for him. I mean, he is trying so hard not to become a monster like the one who killed his parents. xf The reason why the suit of Robin is because Dick Grayson; his parents were in the circus like him before they got killed. After, it was kind of symbolic, the suit and the name.
Good reaction👍👍