Star Ocean Complete Series Retrospective

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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:07 - Star Ocean
    06:34 - Star Ocean: The Second Story
    15:49 - Star Ocean: The Blue Sphere
    24:03 - Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
    33:13 - Star Ocean: The Last Hope
    41:24 - Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness
    47:54 - Star Ocean: The Divine Force
    55:33 - Star Ocean: The Second Story R
    1:01:43 - The Future of Star Ocean
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Komentáře • 175

  • @Xygor
    @Xygor  Před 7 měsíci +11

    Which Star Ocean game did you like best, and why?
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    • @TheDumontShow
      @TheDumontShow Před 7 měsíci +1

      First of all, incredible retrospective. The entire thing was grrat. Second, I never played the original Second Story but I am playing Second Story R and Jam telling you straight up, it's one of the best RPGs I ever played and one of my favorite games of the year. To a point where I played this game until my Switch's battery died...twice. Also I was playing First Departure R and I stopped playing it because this game plays so much better. I highly recommend this game. Great music, story, characters. I loved Dias and Claude. I am going to give The Last Hope another shot after I beat Second Story R

    • @billcox8870
      @billcox8870 Před 6 měsíci

      690 I have played two of them on the PlayStation 2 and my first introduction was Star Ocean the Second Story on the ps1. My favorite was the second story.

    • @those65
      @those65 Před 6 měsíci

      Second Story but I'm pretty sure it's nostalgia bias. Loving Divine Force picked it up from gamestop 10 bucks

    • @jaxxh6529
      @jaxxh6529 Před 6 měsíci

      star ocean 3 till the end of time why? the soundtrack and the story
      soon i have star ocean the second story remake for nintendo switch

    • @funkykick02
      @funkykick02 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Def SO2 perfect in every way. Story was insane plot twist

  • @KyoMobius
    @KyoMobius Před 6 měsíci +15

    Man, the star ocean till the end of time was my first star ocean. Still play it every now and then

  • @Jackpot00
    @Jackpot00 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Second Story R was such an incredible remake. Kept everything we loved about the game but made it all better as well.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 4 měsíci

      I agree!

    • @Sirin2099
      @Sirin2099 Před 2 měsíci

      The Quality of life changes are superb too. Skip buttons, skip cutscenes for magic, speed up dialogue, a dialogue log that you can check, mass crafting, fast travel, etc... All the good stuff you expect from modern games.

  • @ACarey89
    @ACarey89 Před 12 dny +1

    SO3 was honestly one of the best games on PS2, I still love going back and revisit this game every few years

  • @MercenaryX21
    @MercenaryX21 Před 6 měsíci +17

    Devine Force got me into the series. I'm getting all the games as soon as I can find them. Even Faithless.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Glad you’ve gotten into it!

    • @Amatiel12
      @Amatiel12 Před měsícem +1

      The last hope is my favorite. Till the end of time is second favorite. The story in till the end of time has quite the plot twist and ramps difficulty after that event

  • @biglou3830
    @biglou3830 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Playing star ocean for the very first time. Star ocean first departure R. Love it!

  • @jnb22019
    @jnb22019 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Till the End of Time was my first Star Ocean, I didn't know the series before then. Loved it.
    Since I've been looking for RPG games with the same or similar combat system, combat is what sold it for me to begin with.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      For sure!

  • @raulrojas9253
    @raulrojas9253 Před 6 měsíci +9

    To this day I still think Till the end of time is the best or rather is my favorite entry in the whole franchise, but SO 2 R is just incredible, fixed simbology too so is more fun to use spellcaster now but fighter are still super strong and some character got buff like Ernest. Great retrospective.

  • @SquigglyDestroyerofWorlds
    @SquigglyDestroyerofWorlds Před 6 měsíci +7

    Till the end of time is legit one of my favorite games and is one of the big reasons I still have my ps2 spite also having it on my ps5

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      It’s an excellent game!

  • @Blarglesnarfe
    @Blarglesnarfe Před 6 měsíci +6

    Til the End of TIme is... quite infamous. It's an entry that makes choices the series still hasn't addressed in it's next three entries, due to them having to resolve or deal with it.
    I can see why, though I think it's still an outstanding entry.

    • @Evanz111
      @Evanz111 Před 6 měsíci +1

      (Potential SO6 spoilers) - I feel like they vaguely hinted at it with the enemy in The Divine Force, with all the story beats about becoming gods through a simulation. Would love to see them address it properly though.

  • @MiBrCo4177
    @MiBrCo4177 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Having played Star Ocean till the end of time on PS2 back in the day and absolutely loving it I've kind of lost track of the series but I do have the majority of the games on console. This art style and the new Star Ocean 2 that was just released a few days ago is absolutely beautiful and in the vein of that style along with 2.5D and octopath traveler style designs I really hope more games from yesteryear get remade in those art styles as they are absolutely perfect for that design. We don't necessarily need full on final Fantasy remake style games done to older ones but the 2.5D style fits extremely well.

  • @Soapy_Papoose
    @Soapy_Papoose Před 6 měsíci +5

    Gem Drops might be the new Blue Point studio, IMO. I'm really looking forward to their next project.

  • @VampireBatLord
    @VampireBatLord Před 6 měsíci +4

    Just a note on SO2; Claude and Rena character recruitment only affects Dias v Leon early second half of the game. :)

  • @YUXKE
    @YUXKE Před 6 měsíci +3

    SOTET was my favorite and my entry into the series. Hugely influenced my childhood growing up

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      Such a great game!

  • @sting7789
    @sting7789 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I just started with First Departure R and Divine Force and they are both awesome games. Thank you for the retrospective as a new fan of the franchise i appreciate it.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Glad you like them!

  • @M0HAK0
    @M0HAK0 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Ty for covering star ocean! Such an underated series!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +2

      You're welcome - I agree that it's so underrated!

  • @samfrito
    @samfrito Před 5 měsíci +4

    You should be very proud. This IS the best retrospect I've seen on Star Ocean, without spoilers and fascinating til the very end. I'm playing Second Story R currently and just love how grand it feels. The PSP version never felt this open, but its a good version nonetheless. Here's to Tri-Ace having some new Star Ocean ideas and to you for putting together a vid covering each one of the previous titles. Great work.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 5 měsíci

      Thank you, glad you like it!

  • @wiseguise5960
    @wiseguise5960 Před 6 měsíci +4

    19:10 Mario RPG doesn't have combo stringing at all between characters because its a turn based rpg. The only move you do 'combos' with is Mario's super jump and ultra jump. Not really a good comparison.

  • @Cool750Boy
    @Cool750Boy Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you for covering one of my favorite RPG series! Star Ocean was my first RPG for the PlayStation and I poured so many hours into it, more than any other game.
    After watching your video, I plan to get to the other games in the series I have fully played. Thank you for your review! I was looking forward to watching it. ☺️

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @Safersephiroth777
    @Safersephiroth777 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I am a huge fan of the SO series. Started with SO 2 back in the day with SO 2 and played all of them in order too. I played SO 1 on PSP though. SO 2 remake is amazing. Everyone should play it. It is just excellent. Best in the series and one of the best JRPG's ever made too.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the best one!

  • @SkyLizardGirl
    @SkyLizardGirl Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would love them to remake Star Ocean - integrity and faithlessness. Give it more of its own music, identity and movie cutscenes and etc and expand the game greatly, while making it much bigger large scale game with tons and tons of bonus content and a greatly expanded story and new chapters.

  • @Ryuoh
    @Ryuoh Před 6 měsíci +1

    Crosell theme from til the end of time was one of the best tunes

  • @Sahri81
    @Sahri81 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Awesome coverage video of the series. I still have to play SO6 but it looked great in the video so I can't wait to get started on it.
    Personally I liked SO2R and SO4 best. SO2R had a great story and funny PAs. Plenty of moments that tugged your heartstrings too. My favorite character from SO2R is Ashton. SO4's story and cast was great. I had some issues with the gameplay such as blindsiding but I got the hang of it later in the game. The PAs weren't as funny as in SO2R but still pretty entertaining. Each and every character that had a role in the story were great, especially Elena Farrence. She was a lil rough around the edges but she had a very good script. My favorite major characters from that game are Bacchus and Sarah and my favorite minor characters are Elena and Giotto. SO4 really got me interested in the Morphus since there are hints in the game that indicate they have a shared history with another race that resembles them.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 2 měsíci

      Thank you for the praise, and for leaving your memories of your favorites here!

  • @mikec5400
    @mikec5400 Před 6 měsíci +2

    SO 3 has 3 bonus dungeons. You have Ursa cave temple too

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      That's true

  • @davidsabillon5182
    @davidsabillon5182 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The amount of work this video must have taken 🤯. Respect 🤜🤛

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Thank you! The whole channel is a labor of love!

  • @onlinedayton9882
    @onlinedayton9882 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Integrity and Faithlessness was the only SO I’ve ever played. It’s crazy it’s the black sheep of the family. I did enjoy it and beat it!

  • @RatikusuCh
    @RatikusuCh Před 6 měsíci +1

    Its good to see my adventures recorded in this retrospective (kidding aside, I am very glad you made this, which would take research that someone who wasn't there awhile to figure out. I had to explain Star Ocean's origins several times.)

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      Glad you liked it!

  • @bruciekibbutz2947
    @bruciekibbutz2947 Před 6 měsíci +3

    blue sphere looks amazing. hard to believe it's a gbc game

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Definitely one of the best looking GBC games!

  • @akseligardemeister2958
    @akseligardemeister2958 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Till the end of time is my absolute favourite in the series and favourite game of all time. All other games don't even come close.
    Integrity and faithlessness was so bad that I gave up on the series. (Even more when the producer mentioned that he was HAPPY with how the game turned out)
    Because of this, I didn't even give SO6 a chance.
    The second story remake however was so good that it made me buy SO6 anyways >__

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I’ve seen quite a few retrospectives on CZcams, but this was one of the best by far!
    It’s a shame it seems like you never got a chance to play Star Ocean Anamnesis when it came out. I know it was a mobile game, but it had the best combat of all the many mobile games I’ve played, such a shame it got shut down.

  • @feiwong3634
    @feiwong3634 Před 2 měsíci

    My favorite has to be The Last Hope, i really loved the characters, story, battle system and music, and being a prequel to the overall story of the series, it was awesome to revisit planet Roak and meet Ratix's ancestor Eleyna.
    As a whole i really like all the games but i have a soft spot for the first one as it was the first i played back in the day.

  • @AstralFrost
    @AstralFrost Před dnem

    Man, The Last Hope still looks good. Yeah, it's been enhanced for PS4/PC but still. Great art is great art.

  • @ChrisCro
    @ChrisCro Před 7 měsíci +2

    Love your content bud keep up the great work!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 7 měsíci

      Glad you enjoy it!

  • @Tigerkingz1981
    @Tigerkingz1981 Před 7 měsíci +5

    I would say Star Ocean The Last Hope International has so far been my favorite, followed by Till The End Of Time and Second Story. I really like the Sci-Fi elements, Anime portrait choice over the xbox 360 version, the battle system, different worlds to visit, and story over the others. On the flip side, I really disliked Integrity Faithlessness. I really couldnt get into it at all after a few hours. The Second Story on the PS one in the late 90's was my introduction to the series.

  • @15Mahsell
    @15Mahsell Před 6 měsíci +2

    Its a bit sad you didnt go over Star Ocean Anamnesis.
    It was a mobile gacha game for the Star Ocean franchise with its own story but you can summon a lot of characters from all of the games.
    For me it was the best mobile game i have ever played and even when I was home we played that game in multiplayer for hours on a Discord Fan server.
    Sadly it has been discontiniued but it is somewhat important as it was actually very active and close to the producers, which did a lot of questionaires.
    Espacially at the end of the game, a lot of these have been about what we as fans want and it included stuff like SO2 remake and a new SO title... and well we got SO6 as well as SO2R afterwards.
    And the producers actually explained that they will discontiniue to fully focus on the new title.
    So yes it was a long time between 5 and 6 but thats actually somewhat filled by Anamnesis

  • @MaximzM
    @MaximzM Před 6 měsíci +36

    im kinda hoping that SO2R leads to newer sprite based starocean games, im not saying they have to do away with the 3d looking games but i'd love for them to go back to the spritebased starocean games, SO1 and SO2 are legit my favorites of the series

    • @TheTboy103
      @TheTboy103 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I think given the way the remake looks which is beautiful. They should remake the old final fantasy and all there retro game that Pixel based sprite games.

    • @MaximzM
      @MaximzM Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@TheTboy103 i'd be ok with that, but there are just other games i want to see more than FF remakes ya kno, like i want to see lufia make a come back (which square has rights to iirc) and star ocean i'd love to just see like new games in the series that lean more towards this style (not all the new games have to do it but...some ya kno) and suikoden games im so lookin forward to the remakes of those, maybe other games like illusion of gaia or terraenigma, or breath of fire games. FF series is great i just want more of my other favorite series too hahah

    • @TheTboy103
      @TheTboy103 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Oh yes no I completely agree , if they could do this with a secret of mana, Chrono, trigger and all the other Ip's that are all great pixel art based games. I think that Squarenix could probably make a huge profit off of it. Along with just redoing some of the o s t's and some of them. I would love to hear an orchestrated version of the complete chrono trigger soundtrack.

    • @shionsonozaki5730
      @shionsonozaki5730 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Star ocean 1 is one of the worst imo but the sprites are cool

    • @MaximzM
      @MaximzM Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@shionsonozaki5730 umm thats cool, im personally just not a big fan of 3-6 i'd say 4 and 6 were pretty good but they had so many things that made them no where near as enjoyable as 1 and 2 for me but i mean thats just me ya kno. like i said i'd DON'T think they need to do away with 3d staroceans i'd just like to see some more staroceans that goes back to sprite based

  • @BrenTenkage
    @BrenTenkage Před 7 měsíci +2

    Two Games I want you to talk about
    Metal Saga for the PS2, a very strange RPG that actually was the first Metal Max game we got
    and Altier Iris also for PS2, a pretty awesome RPG for the PS2 that introduced me to the franchise

  • @unclefred3128
    @unclefred3128 Před 6 měsíci

    "SIDE Kick! SIDE Kick! Izzat all you gart?! SIDE Kick! Izzat all you gart?! SIDE Kick! SIDE Kick!"
    - Fayt Leingod

  • @brieezy.
    @brieezy. Před 6 měsíci +2

    Well, I am sold on the second story remake now I have to play it. My very first RPG was till the end of time and oh my god was I lucky.. totally a coincidence that my reasoning for buying the game was the adorable graphics of character designs, I was totally judging by the cover- and honestly the name of it just sounded so fantastical, but to be fair I did read what I could about the story even though there wasn’t much on the box I’m pretty sure I bought back in 2005(?) had a book in it.. to this day I haven’t been able to beat that game, I was probably about 13 or 14 at that time and now I am 33 😂💔
    I just could not get past Luthers second phase, and now I don’t even have this saved anymore, so I just have to make it to the end again… I’ve played and beaten, the last hope and integrity and faithlessness - the thing I love about these games is that certain aspects relate to the other games like the names of planets or places, i’ve never been one to pay too much attention to consistency in game mechanics within franchise. It’s all about aesthetics to me, but I do notice certain things if I am familiar with them and I can see how it would be important to fans❤
    Am I the only one that was creeped out by Welch in S05? I could have just not connected the voice actor with her very well. I mean, the one in the last hope was odd, but immediately her voice matched her personality.
    I have not played the first two main line games, but I loved 3&4 definitely staples
    Integrity and faithlessness was incredibly disappointing… Reviews definitely have influenced my opinion, but as I said, before, aesthetics are very important to me, and characters are more important to me, then the actual game so yeah 😅
    My motto is if the characters are not aesthetically pleasing and interesting to look at I am not interested- Insta ocean is always on top of it with that, usually😂
    I haven’t even tried 6 yet and honestly, I don’t know if I will

  • @kosoul2k11
    @kosoul2k11 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I need star ocean 3 to be remade 🎉

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +2

      That would be a good one!

  • @milletmongoose
    @milletmongoose Před 6 měsíci

    Star Ocean has been one of those series that I thought about in a bittersweet way, mostly because it had been dormant for a long time. Porting the first Star Ocean and the remake (of the remake) to the Second Story gives me hope that we'll see more from this series in the future.

  • @RanbuMotion
    @RanbuMotion Před 2 měsíci

    Ngl, I feel so vindicated in knowing that I was not the only one who considered the text size in The Divine Force an actual warcrime.

  • @damarcusberry3437
    @damarcusberry3437 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Really well done. I would like to see Star Ocean Till the end of Time get a proper remaster or remake like 1 and 2 did before a new entry to round off all entries getting proper HD versions. I know about the PSN version with trophy support but they can do more.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Agreed!

  • @optimize0
    @optimize0 Před 6 měsíci

    I really enjoyed the Last Hope. I felt the Voice Acting was awesome especially Remi's VO in the last scenes. Such amazing delivery.

    • @johnlawful2272
      @johnlawful2272 Před měsícem

      And crow is the first protagonist ancestor

  • @MarcAMARIAS
    @MarcAMARIAS Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thanx to you, i buy this game on a Steam,and i really likes it. A great addition to my library...😊

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      Great, which one are you buying?

  • @PrinceCity007
    @PrinceCity007 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Amazing content

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 5 měsíci

      Thanks! Please consider subscribing, there's lots more!

  • @stephanieking8299
    @stephanieking8299 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The last hope is the only star ocean game I have ever played and I never heard of the series before that.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Give the others are try!

  • @HimitsuHunter
    @HimitsuHunter Před 6 měsíci +2

    Second story R really is Tri-ace's big chance to reignite the franchise. And it really hope they manage to get it done. SO2 has always been my favorite Action RPG of all times since I first played it on PS1 as a kid.

    • @NoNameAtAll11
      @NoNameAtAll11 Před 6 měsíci

      But SO2R was developed by Gemdrops Studio. tri-Ace's fate is still in the air, it seems.

  • @leonlee527
    @leonlee527 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The last hope was my first and most favorite one!!!

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 7 měsíci

      Glad you love it!

  • @RatedB1
    @RatedB1 Před 5 měsíci

    I remember loving Star Ocean 3 right up to the twist and then never playing it again XD It really took me out of the game and I never bothered with series after that

  • @noname72390
    @noname72390 Před 5 měsíci +1

    2 & 3 were bloody fantastic, 1 was good, and lets not talk about the other 3 but at least 6 was infinitely better than 5 but 5 did set the bar pretty freaking low.

  • @slimfastsubaru2043
    @slimfastsubaru2043 Před 6 měsíci +2

    i want a steam port of tillt he end of time so bad

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 5 měsíci +1

      That would be great!

  • @SpinDlsc
    @SpinDlsc Před 6 měsíci

    I can't help but hope that SE taps Gem Drops again to do a remake of SO3. They don't even have to make it into a PS5-quality game. If it can at least match the visual quality and refinement that SO4 had over SO3, while preserving the overall feel and all the things that makes SO3 stand out compared to other installments, that alone would be perfect in my eyes. I wonder what kinds of things they would do with it after seeing the direction they took with SO2R.

  • @Animus_Altia
    @Animus_Altia Před 6 měsíci +1

    For all you Star Ocean 3 players, tell me if this sounds very familiar...
    "SIDE KICK! DIMENSION... DOOR! SIDE KICK! DIMENSION... DOOR! SIDE KICK! DIMENSION... DOOR!"

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      Sounds right!

  • @TheBatmanMan1
    @TheBatmanMan1 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Props to your self control, getting through the entire SO4 section without a single complaint about Lymle, most people can’t resist.
    When I first played SO5, I went in so excited, because I could see how much of it was inspired by SO3 (my personal favorite in the series) but I definitely came away feeling disappointed. The story and characters were so bland and forgettable, and I absolutely hated what they did to the cutscenes. As you said, it made it to where I couldn’t even feel a sliver of attachment to any of the characters. In terms of the battle system, for a long time the main thing I could remember about it was a major complaint I had: why would they go through the effort to make Fidel a carbon copy of Fayt (which I had no problem with really - as he’s my favorite character in the series, and from my favorite game in the series) but then they go ahead and screw it up in two major ways. First, they make it to where you can’t get Air Raid until way late in the game (by the way, I also hated how you can only learn moves from skill books as opposed to just leveling up) and then they go and cut a key element of his basic attack combo!! Allow me to explain - Aside from special moves, the coolest thing Fayt can do is his long range O attack where he sends enemies flying in the air - this can then be followed up by another short range O attack in which (here’s the important part) he does a FREEKIN BACKFLIP to send them flying again, before following up with two short range X attacks to stab the enemies twice in the air. Freekin sick combo. Then SO5 cuts everything past the initial hit to launch enemies into the air. What the crap were they thinking!?
    All that being said, I will say, I gave SO5 a replay just last year (first time since it first came out) and it’s definitely not as bad as I remember. Sure there are all those things I complained about, but I forgot how awesome the roles system was, and between that and the better parts of the combat, it’s still a perfectly fine game - albeit easily the worst in the series.
    By the way, anyone ever figure out a connection between General Alma and D.U.M.A. from Divine Force? I noticed while playing through SO5 in preparation for Divine force that General Alma (the main antagonist from SO5) has a jacket/cape that he wears and on the back it specifically says “D.U.M.A.” on it. It’s way too big a connection to be coincidental, but I haven’t actually been able to track down a connection.

  • @Argonisgema
    @Argonisgema Před 6 měsíci

    with second story R i wonder will they do blue sphere or go straight to till the end of time for remasters/remakes.

  • @jessieolivarez7504
    @jessieolivarez7504 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I've only played 2 Star Ocean games. Divine Force and Second Story R. DF was super fun with the combat and exploration... but I did eventually put it down and didn't finish it, I may go back eventually. The small text really hurt the game, even while in the maps I couldn't see what it said. I also didn't like the character models, they seemed really stiff with animations which is something I'm ok with in older games but this one just made it feel uncanny. However, Second Story R is amazing so far and I'm loving it. Haven't finished it yet, but I know I will.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Glad you like Second Story R! They sure did that remake well.

  • @gdastray
    @gdastray Před 6 měsíci

    Only finished SO Second Story version Claude story
    Barely started First Departure & Rena story in Second Evolution version
    Played a bit of Till the End of Time too, but stuck midway due to other commitments and my PS2 got some issues

  • @cletus223
    @cletus223 Před 5 měsíci

    I played Star Ocean: First Departure R and was rather disappointed and only beat just to see it through to the end. It starts off with easy then once you get to the third continent the enemies constantly curb stomped me and I had to grind almost twenty levels to usually survive. It was really frustrating, you have know how to cheese the skills system and when exactly to attack since you can't cancel attacks. Hearing that the second game is the basis for the changes in its battle system I don't think I want to try that one after all.

  • @shawnriley4959
    @shawnriley4959 Před 4 měsíci

    I picked up SO 2 on the playstation when it came out years ago. If yall didn't know they have a SO 2 anime that can be watched on CZcams. Just fyi the didnt do the full story though.

    • @Sahri81
      @Sahri81 Před 2 měsíci

      I did. I first watched the subbed version and years later when I wanted to rewatch it I couldn't find it anymore so I went to watch the dub instead which wasn't so bad at all. Ashton actually had a better voice than in the game xD

  • @irystocrattakodachithatmooms
    @irystocrattakodachithatmooms Před 6 měsíci +1

    I've only played Till the End of Time, The Last Hope and Integrity and Faithlessness. My favorite is Till the End of Time, I didn't get very far in The Last Hope before quitting for something else and I started getting turned off from Integrity and Faithlessness the moment the line about seeing that childhood friend as a sister was said. That whole sister line is something where I go "oh, it's going to be THAT twist" and when it happened, I was done. I knew then I would never see it as all that good, especially next to Till the End of Time. I'm tired of the whole childhood friend that's like a sister until she get's injured then the main character realizes he's in love with her thing. It also feels like quasi incest to me personally. So no thanks, I don't want that type of storyline, I want something more organic. That's why I really enjoy the relationship between Fayt and Sophia, it just feels natural to me with my limited knowledge about childhood friends. I like how they are simply friends and it never goes any further.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +2

      Till the End of Time is definitely the best of those three!

    • @irystocrattakodachithatmooms
      @irystocrattakodachithatmooms Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Xygor Yeah, though I had no idea there were 19 endings. I might have to try to see all of them. Luckily I still have the game and a PS2. The discs are in excellent shape and the console works perfectly.
      Integrity and Faithlessness is easily the worst of the three, so bad I got nowhere near the end. I was only at the part where the UP3 had just been full on broken. I decided it wasn't worthwhile since it was so corny and predictable. Funny, an adult game pulled off the basic concept of the sister figure thing far better. No injuries, just two people who hadn't seen each other in years and were both in a bad mental state.

  • @JC-zl7go
    @JC-zl7go Před 6 měsíci +2

    You didnt try the gacha? It was pretty good

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      No, didn't know about it

  • @WilliamScavengerFish
    @WilliamScavengerFish Před 6 měsíci

    I completed the cave of trials once. I had attempted Gabriel celesta's evil twin a few times (though never defeating her). Alas, I broke the memory card losing that save. It hurt.

  • @thatssorandom157
    @thatssorandom157 Před 6 měsíci

    Which final fantasy are you going to recap next 5, 8, 12, 13, 15, or 16

  • @andyhamilton2202
    @andyhamilton2202 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Never even heard of this game.😂

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 5 měsíci

      Which one?

  • @Ms666slayer
    @Ms666slayer Před 6 měsíci

    It seem that i'm the only person that didn't had any proble reading the text in Divne Force and in Integrity and Faithlessnes.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      I guess so!

  • @atomicgrave4340
    @atomicgrave4340 Před 6 měsíci

    I don't have much nostalgia for the series. I played 3rd game and some mobile gacha type game. I wanted to try out other games on ps4, added them to my wish list, but unfortunately store died on me faster than i was able to buy them (yeah, i'm from Russia). Maybe one day in the distant future, who knows. I mean i can bypass the blockage, but i'm lazy to do so...
    I liked the 3rd game, when i played it on ps2. I think i still have a disk somewhere, maybe i'll replay it 'cuz i don't remember the plot like at all. The mobile gacha was actually fun as well. I never knew Star Ocean had so many cool characters. But the game was too heavy for my phone so i deleted it eventually.

  • @texben123
    @texben123 Před 6 měsíci

    So it's:
    Star Ocean 4: New Hope
    Star Ocean
    Star Ocean 2
    Star Ocean5
    Star Ocean 3: end of time
    Star Ocean 6: the Divine Force

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks for sharing your ranking!

  • @AldurSFC
    @AldurSFC Před 6 měsíci +3

    Enjoyed this, but theres a slight dissonance. Its clear you didnt enjoy the divine force and you went into a lot of detail as to why but then you say "better than integrity and faithless". Which I agree with you about.
    The segment on integrity and faithless had less negative critique than what you put about the divine force and felt like you glossed over the many egregious issues it had.
    Like it felt more like divine force got railed on more for the parts of it you disliked than is comparable with your segment on integrity and faithlessness. Which wouldnt have been something that stuck except for that throwaway "Its better than integrity and faithlessness"
    Id honestly say your review would have put divine force below integrity and faithless if not for that.
    Feels off?

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I liked the combat system better in Integrity and Faithlessness, but I liked the story, characters, and advancement system more in The Divine Force. I think that's consistent with what I said in the video.

  • @LongTran-kp3kz
    @LongTran-kp3kz Před 2 měsíci

    Yeah. Star Ocean 2 and 3 were my favorites of the series. Everything else that came after them were.... not so great. Sure looked pretty though.

  • @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
    @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv Před 6 měsíci

    33:14 - 33:20 33:46 - 33:49 Which game is this from?

  • @WilliamScavengerFish
    @WilliamScavengerFish Před 6 měsíci

    Gabriel celesta and her evil twin

  • @orfeas2335
    @orfeas2335 Před 6 měsíci

    I tried to play those games. I finished first departure R and Divine force...it ain't for me unfortunately..the artificial difficulty and the overall difficulty spikes leading to unbelievable grind is such a deal-breaker to me

  • @WilliamScavengerFish
    @WilliamScavengerFish Před 6 měsíci

    Pear into peaches

  • @Kenshiro3rd
    @Kenshiro3rd Před měsícem

    Star Ocean 1 was really awesome for the SNES. It was a technical marvel. That said I found it overall pretty boring and generic, in terms of story. It REALLY squanders its (at the time) relatively unique for jRPGs, sci-fi space opera setting. It jut ends up feeling like a relatively generic RPG with a minor space opera redeco in places.
    Star Ocean: The Second Story is my favorite of the series. I just absolutely LOVED the story, characters, world, and mechanics of the the game. Rena and Ashton (and his dragon heads) are my favorite characters in the series. I also really liked how it took advantage of it's sci-fi setting. Honestly it feels like the only one truly firing on all cylinders to me.
    Star Ocean 3 was my introduction to the franchise, and I really enjoyed the story & music. That said, I also kinda hate it because the way it recontextualized the series cheapens ALL the previous games' stories/events. It also made it impossible to continue the series as it basically chucked the series' entire universe in recycle bin. There just wasn't any real way to continue the story after that other than a prequel.
    Star Ocean 4/The Last Hope has my favorite combat of the entire series. Overall it felt like a true evolution of Second Story's combat, and took it to the next level. The depth and possibilities created by the chain, rush, and blindsiding systems just made it sooo damn satisfying. They also created a ridiculously steep learning curve. Thankfully the game actually provided you a training simulator to teach the the ins & outs & advanced applications of the mechanics to help you get over said curve. I also really liked its heavier focus on sci-fi elements. That said, the story, dungeon design, and graphics left a LOT to be desired. The felt EXTREMELY paint by numbers and formulaic. It also had an english dub that made you want to drill out your eardums. Luckily the International version fixed that by including the original Japanese audio.
    As for Integrity and Faithlessness... call me back when those faithless curs show a little integrity actually FINISH it. Tri-Ace should be ashamed of releasing such an obviously unfinished pile of trash.
    I haven't played the others.

  • @RobtheStampede
    @RobtheStampede Před 6 měsíci +3

    SO4 made me genuinely uncomfortable. When I saw the pre-pubescent girl in the cat themed bondage gear, I was worried that I was now on some kind of list because i owned this game.

  • @fabolousjada5070
    @fabolousjada5070 Před 4 měsíci

    51:00 I understand as a avid fan but cmon they need nee players to make new star oceans and after the second story r it looks like the series is revived lol i love dark souls so im bias but im 34 so im old school too

  • @foxbeastking8565
    @foxbeastking8565 Před 6 měsíci

    Whos your favorite character

  • @emaheiwa8174
    @emaheiwa8174 Před 6 měsíci

    The 1st game looks like it has too much stuff to do at the same time

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      It's so fun though!

  • @those65
    @those65 Před 6 měsíci +2

    "Didn't change into an action game and alienate fans" shots fired FF16

  • @gmartuch
    @gmartuch Před 6 měsíci

    Star Ocean till the end of time is a good game but hard to go back to and play. Because of two parts, one is the Dragon bone flute part where you have 4 different tunes you have to play with only two button and the difficulty spike when you are head to the Time Gate.

  • @pk5727
    @pk5727 Před měsícem

    Starbocean sec9 d story, nest

  • @ChrysogonusLi
    @ChrysogonusLi Před 6 měsíci +1

    I’m glad to hear that you are not a big fan of SO6 battle. I could not continue playing the game because it plays differently from classic SO.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah, it's such a bummer!

  • @LordVex47
    @LordVex47 Před 4 měsíci

    Ronyx and Illia***

  • @iamnoone6118
    @iamnoone6118 Před měsícem

    I loved Star Ocean 3 until that damn plot twist. Anyone who's played through it knows what I mean. It was actually so bad, it killed the whole series for me.

  • @coveredinthorns7185
    @coveredinthorns7185 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I liked 5 it just felt incomplete and bland. Like there wasnt enough content and areas.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci +2

      I thought so too, almost as if they kind of mailed it in on the story.

  • @TheHalevi
    @TheHalevi Před 6 měsíci +1

    Not sure how this is a "complete retrospective" as you never talked about anamnesis. But otherwise its a decent video on the star ocean franchise

  • @narwhalgamingvariety
    @narwhalgamingvariety Před 6 měsíci

    Maybe I'm just bad but like.. Star Ocean 6 just doesn't seem to work. The way AI spends the AP points in combat is skewed, so setting up a complex behaviour for the AI seems redundant and doesn't actually work. So you end up just playing Dark Souls with your strongest character. I don't know, I nearly beat the game and never figured out how you were supposed to play it. I wanted to like the game but it just seemed like slop. I liked the music A LOT though, Motoi is the best. I just hate the anime style and anime button mashers have become the norm for this style of game.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah, hate to say I pretty much agree with this!

  • @MediocreGamingDood
    @MediocreGamingDood Před 5 měsíci

    I've watched this video from beginning to end and I'll give you my thoughts on it. But before I do...please like and comment on this comment.

  • @WilliamScavengerFish
    @WilliamScavengerFish Před 6 měsíci

    Umm...Noel...Jack of all trades? Problem is, he sucks at everything. His melee attack has minus range. All of his weapons add no magic power. Rena actually makes a decent melee character.

    • @Xygor
      @Xygor  Před 6 měsíci

      I'm not a fan of using him either, but he kind of is that!

    • @WilliamScavengerFish
      @WilliamScavengerFish Před 6 měsíci

      @@Xygor the only way to make Noel a useful spell caster is the million staff.

  • @AlanFehr
    @AlanFehr Před 6 měsíci

    I really want to like the new SO2, but the visual style(s) is hard for me to get behind. Beautiful 3D environments, with blocky pixel sprites and stunning ink/paint portraits. What the heck am I looking at?? Can we just choose a style and implement it throughout??

  • @deatho0ne587
    @deatho0ne587 Před 7 měsíci

    I am kind of sad the new SO2 Remake did not allow leveling skills in battle and it was just SP to level them.
    I am not a fan of the characters pixel models on the backgrounds, due to the whiteish outlines. The reason this bugs me is that the enemies look better and it was not there in the original or the PSP remake either.
    I find it funny that so many YTers thought Welch was not in the older versions of SO2.

    • @rdcooper987
      @rdcooper987 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Well, she wasn't in the original version of SO2 for Playstation 1. If they're in their 30s, that's most likely the version they're familiar with. The version with Welch was released for the PSP remaster.

    • @deatho0ne587
      @deatho0ne587 Před 6 měsíci

      I thought Welch was in the original, might have to start a copy in that version of the game. Guess I could go back and find out.

    • @AlanFehr
      @AlanFehr Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@deatho0ne587play all you want. You won't find her. 🤷🏻

  • @GabrielParr
    @GabrielParr Před měsícem

    i think star ocean 2 remake should never existed, looks awful that octopath traveler aesthetic, also maintaining the og sprites doesnt look whole and looks more like frankenstein, with unnecesary new mechanics, with every new game, the artstyle and mechanics are less star ocean and more something unrecognizable. Thas why i love more Tales of, at least that franchise keeps its main pillars, the aesthetic and details that are in every mainline series.

  • @matthewvido3902
    @matthewvido3902 Před 2 dny

    Calling Rena, Reena is horrible to my ears

  • @KingOfHeartsTANK
    @KingOfHeartsTANK Před 13 dny

    I can't subscribe dude, you asked like 8 times in one video and I can't support that.
    That being said. The last hope is way better than people say but integrity and faithlessness is awful in every regard. I don't know if you noticed but they just took star ocean 1 and 3 and spliced them together for so5, and 2 and 4 for so6. Raymond is the best male protagonist we've ever had though

  • @biggunz29xx
    @biggunz29xx Před 6 měsíci

    Star Ocean isnt a big JRPG series anymore sadley. Most titles release without much of buzz with mediocre reviews.

  • @Lv1dog
    @Lv1dog Před 6 měsíci

    Oh so you're not gonna bring up SO3 stupid plot or till the end of times horrendous voice acting? Okay then ...

    • @Kenshiro3rd
      @Kenshiro3rd Před měsícem

      I think he was trying to avoid spoiler. The plot was decent. The problem is it cheapened three previous games... and basically made it impossible to move forward by chucking the universe into the recycle bin.