We Need to Talk About Scarlet & Violet Cards
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2024
- Scarlet & Violet Pokemon has been touted as weak and a hard pass by many collectors. But is this era truly that bad or are we all sleeping on some of the best pokemon cards art of this generation? These include the best cards for you to invest and hold long term.
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Wtf Jake leave the gems hidden, let people be overexcited for 151
exactly!
For real tho
Over excited? Nah its the best
@@TheIfarted exactly what I'm talking about
Keep sleeping, it's gonna be the best for the rest of us
(Anyway, don't take my words as heavily negative judging, at the end of the day it's up to the collector to choose which cards to pick up :)
@@claudiohallva1338I am collecting master sets of S&V base and Temporal forces. However I have to agree 151 its just the best set out of all of them for many reasons. Personally I like temporal forces more but 151 has to be number 1 objectively.
I'm making a Pokedex of just illustration rares :)
It does look like they're giving every pokemon a chance to shine with these art rares!
@@TwicebakedJake I said the same thing in my latest CZcams video too. 🙂
Same ✌🏻
Same same
I’m working on one too. Interesting that most of the original 151 now have some kind of IR or Alt Art
Sv era art is top tier. Glad to see someone is spotlighting them. Sword and shield was great, but SV is taking arts to a whole new level.
No lol
Agreed!
@@EddieHearnTimestampsGuy it runs circles around previous eras. Sorry
@@EddieHearnTimestampsGuy cope
The Pokémon tho are terribly designed
I feel like quitting watching Pokemon CZcams sometimes, anybody else? It’s confusingly frustrating how bothersome it is to see something you enjoyed be called mid and then everybody makes videos at the same time suddenly calling it underrated or good.
And it’s all because of money. These same cards looked the same 2 months ago. But the change is the secondary market price. Now the SV era is suddenly going to be good and on the rise. And as a collector it sucks knowing some singles I’ve been wanting are probably going to go the SWSH alt art/TG route and increase 30%-100% overnight.
Shoot I’ve seen my collectr app and cards like Raichu and TTar are double the price of what I pulled them at. I’m a little over a year into this hobby but I’m just realizing how exhausting it is. But maybe it’s just social media making it more exhausting.
100%. People view it as a market and not a hobby
@@mellowsohypewhy can’t it be both? I could invest in a stock but i like Pokemon
@@SB-ki3jw it can be, but there’s alot of people in all hobbies, not just pokemon, that treat it 100% as a business investing far more capital than an average hobbyist, which skyrockets prices making it that much more difficult and discouraging for the average hobbyist.
@@SB-ki3jw It can be both. It just feels wrong when people seem strongly guided by money first. There’s a balance. If you’re deep enough into collecting you’re most likely aware of the value of what you’re buying/opening. Like I only open Booster Boxes with the occasional sleeved boosters. I’m aware it’s the best price/pack and somewhat seeded so better odds of getting top hits. But there’s some people who seem like they have zero balance and it’s 100% on the flip/invest side.
Like there’s this channel named Poke Profit that straight up clowned people for opening packs. Turning $5 into 10 cents or $100 into $15. Well if that wasn’t a part of the hobby you would have no investments. If people didn’t care to open the packs, they couldn’t get the singles and it would be a dead hobby. So when people aggressively view the money side which impacts people who actually care about keeping the card not flipping it, it sucks. When the stuff you pull or buy the single of “sucks” until it passes a certain price then it’s “underrated” if just rubs people the wrong way.
You're not wrong dude. The fandom in this hobby has been getting more cringe by the day. So many contradictions of opinions when prices swing and people talking about money all the time like they are trading stocks 💀
Scarlet violet is criminally underrated. When the SWSH craze is over, people will see that top to bottom SV is a better era, assuming we get sets with cards featuring Umbreon, rayquaza, etc. we got SIRs in EVERY set, swsh is legitimately terrible in comparison for the first 6 sets. I think SV has a chance to be truly iconic
Any options on the Temporal Forces sets
Jake where do you find booster boxes below 100 bucks
I've got a full Paradox Rift master set, including all the staff promos and all the collection holo variants. I stand firm that this set's IR's are the best we've gotten so far, but excited for them to improve in the latter end of the SV era.
As you said, I really enjoy the artwork and cards of SV but the pull rates are brutal, at least for me. The vid is a good reminder to pick up some singles though, so I might as well start doing that! Thanks Jake!
I’ve had better pull rates from scarlet and violet than sword and shield. Sword and shield pull rates were absolute garbage until the late sets especially crown zenith. Maybe the last year of sword and shield has people putting on rose-tinted glasses?
Prior to trainer gallery cards I was lucky to ever see an alt art. Now you can pick up a good handful of packs and likely have at least 1 illustration rare in there.
That’s my experience, at least.
On point! I feel like saying the SV pull rates are bad (especially having just come out of the SwSh era) is disingenuous. I've been in love with this era since SV base - and I've put my money where my mouth is.
My experience was the opposite. I haven’t pulled any alt arts full art or anything wow level in sv. I’ve also scaled back because of it. Evolving skies was my best luck if I could find it.
thanks 2bake! i love your stuff
Awesome video. Thank you Jake
SV Era COULD totally >>> SWSH... so far, so good. And with Shrouded Fable looking dope, a dragon set, and a Team Rocket set... the good times are'a'comin!
There are so many regular illustration rares and a few SIRs that I personally forgot about. I’m trying to add them slowly to the binder.
Hi there, maybe I'll be a new cars collector in a few days...hehe Thank you very much for your videos. I don't now very much about the value of the cards but I would like to learn.
Your outro is a banger - GG
While everyone fomo over what’s hot next for English cards I’m still collecting Japanese cards on the side as they keep reaching all time lows going back to sun and moon tag team era. Even graded 10s Japanese cards cards are cheap like the same magikarp in jp psa 10 is $50-$60 buying now for long term isn’t a bad idea
SV era had always had beautiful cards. Getting booster boxes of SV base for 90 or less still to this day is amazing. Being able to buy most of the singles for relatively cheap has been great. The artworks are better overall for SV than another other era. It's super annoying when people come on and talk about how SV is great NOW when nothing has changed except the youtube hype. It's really strange watching most youtubers all pick up on each other and say the exact same thing. The only guy on here with his own takes is dannyphantump. He's been talking about how much he has loved SV era since the beginning. People need to appreciate the art and stop worrying about the prices. The hobby isn't about making money, it's about enjoying the art and playing the game.
I am buying all of the Gen 1 SV AR & SAR's from Japan. they are soo fire! Ruler / Obsidian Flames is criminally underrated for the Zard's
Thanks for the tips 2 bake ☺️
I opened a temporal forces etb and didn’t get one illustration rare big rip
the groudon illustration rare looks so cool!
Jakes new outro is my new ringtone now
Y’all modern og’s shushh now you know how us actual late 90s and early 00’s vintage ogs feel. We’re making a comeback to the hobby and need to know what’s hot right now. So I’m enjoying this content.
Fully agree, the sir are just on par with the cards from s&s. hope they will go up in price cuz they definitely deserve it! Enjoy the content btw :)
the groudon is so sick and I feel like no one talks about it, picked up a PSA 10 for less than $140 a few months back
coulda got in japanese for $5 nm
Yeah when it comes to the more expensive ir, getting the Japanese version is almost always better. Picked up a Japanese ir magikarp for $15.
@@memestar1118why is it better? I can’t read Japanese that’s a huge disadvantage for me lol I prefer English
@@thehungrymonk17 I prefer English as well but when we are talking an $80 difference than yeah I’m going with Japanese. It’s also undeniable that the card quality is better in Japan.
We need a SV set that can top evolving skies. A pack experience opening with multiple chase cards.
You think the Japanese magikarp will go up in value?
High high pop
@@roberttrojan9037 might still get it for $60. I love the art work and can be next to my giratina v alt art
The song at the end! ❤❤❤❤
If you enjoy Japanese cards you can get Groudon, Raichu, and Tyranitar for very cheap compared to the english prices. Almost all illustration rares are much cheaper.
What were those Kingdra and Greninja cards?
Those are promo cards in the upcoming set
I picked up a Groundon IR a few weeks ago when seeing it rising to 30ish, glad some of these "sleeper" cards are getting the love they deserve, SV is a fantastic era for pokemon cards
I don't understand the sentiment that SV pull rates aren't good. They're better than SwSh! Have we forgotten evolving cries, chilling pain, fusion strike-out? On all points, SV is the best era we've ever had
Yeah I don't really get it. It's been getting tougher but still way better than the previous era in my experience.
I have been completing all the SV master sets and it has been a pleasure, until this day Paldea Evolve has been my favorite! more than 151!
I love the ending song haha
Ive just started collecting Pokemon and opened maybe 8 packs of temporal forces and i got 3 full art cards and 1 regular ex card
The last time I collected Pokémon was when I was 7 or 8 years old. I’m now 34 and my kid likes Pokémon. I did some research and started collecting 151 with her. Why is it getting so much flack? I’m missing like 5 cards (and 15 or so illustration rares) and it’s been super fun getting back into things and seeing familiar Pokémon.
Im stilk mixed art work is great but vmax alt arts hit diff for me and feel better to me for some reason but these new ones are cool but not enough for me to really open alot other then 151 atm fo sv
I just wish SV card printing quality wasn’t so terrible. The corners are ALWAYS jagged. Anyone finding boxes with perfect corners? I don’t get how people are getting 10’s? Anyone with insights? 🚨
Yo Jake .. great vid bro and just wanna say that I totally agree.. as much as SWSH is such a sick era I do think SV will pull through in the end bro 💪🏼😎👊🏼
I actually had this thought a couple of weeks ago. I've been trying to collect all the sword and shield alt arts because i love them, but i still need 12, and they're all $60 plus. I was thinking i should collect more scarlett and violet and let the prices settle on the alts for a bit.
Sword & Shield : Moonbreon and everything else
Scarlet & Violet :
Decent amount of cool cards
Value wise both are gonna end up getting destroyed.
Drowzee at the carnival is my fav card of all time. Super creepy gen 1 throwback
Im hoping they bring back tag team cards for the SV Era
Unlikely as they'll be bringing back Megas
@@keviaaar consumers control the market...if the demand is high enough they will have to print
You can get full sets of the japanese sets for below half the price of a booster box.
I'm just enjoying buying japanese, it came down so much I'm so happy lol
Yes I think they are undervalued, but especially the Japanese AR cards!!!
I couldn’t agree more. Sword & Shield era got me back into opening packs, and while Scarlet Violet has some great cards the pull rates have been pretty disappointing and I am moving back to mostly buying singles now
People are kidding themselves acting like the SV era sets are mid 😂
These are gorgeous sets with a lot to offer. The fact that they’ve been widely available and cheap (so far) is a bonus!
Jake
Great points !
The Scarlet and Violet era will really be good, when they finally release a set featuring more fan favorites like the Eeveeloutions. I want Eeveeloution SIRs so bad!
2:36 Nice to know there are some nice singles in my era , lol
Isn’t the reason everyone is driving up the prices on fusion/evolving is because rarity of big cards?!
Hey man shush I was just about to buy some Paldea evolved
The Ninetales is dope!
I really like s&v so far. Definitely were all sleeping sets for me (except obsidian flames)
So far as a brand new pokemon card person. The newer sets are so much more cohesive. Looove them. And then arts..wow
Yes.
I'm aware I'm sleeping on them but I need all the bangers form SWSH before they get stupid expensive 💀
Which ones you hunting?
Woah new outro??
New outro
I think the top hits in sword and shield will stay in higher demand than scarlet and violet. That said I think there is more value in scarlet and violet with more cards in the 10-50$ range.
I love them all 🎉
" Better looking chases" is obvisioully a personal opinion. SWSH has some bangers S&V has some bangers, S&V so far has used trash card stock compared to SWSH imo. I hope they improve the print quality of the S&V cards moving forward.
Agreed.
Tldr yes
Optimistic thinking but it most likely won't surpass sword and shield. The alt arts, the full arts, the rainbows, the gold cards? I mean how are you gonna top all those? I think scarlet and violet sill do well but and it'll be close over time. Time is key but i don't think you'll be able to compare a full art lugia to which will only gain more value over time to Anything scarlet and violet has now, Except Magickarp. The only thing scarlet and violet has that's huge is the Magickarp, If it continues to rise which most likely will. But like ask yourself aside from then Magickarp what card could come close to a silver tempest lugia full art? There isn't one.
The artwork is good but pull rates are bad (like you said)!
Scarlet and violet is going to be like a fine wine. Just give it time. SV will be one of the best series for a long time
Guys the prices doubled, great time to think about buying. How about wait for them to crash since that’s what’s gonna happen? Just like the Sword and Shield alts that sky rocketed and crashed within a year.
It's the cherry boy
Uh? Pull rates are so much better than sword and shield. Especially when you compare sir pull rates to alt art pull rates. A booster box of a sv era set almost always has more value than a booster box of a ss era box.
Should’ve just kept the shiny border Alt arts
I actually really like the scarlet and violet era. Not the pokemon necessarily but the cards have been amazing
If late SM and SWSH era was the golden age, SV to me is feeling like a modern renaissance. Just a total cultural shift in the English borders, art style, etc. I cannot wait to see Mega Evolved EX SIRs. I really hope they will knock it put of the park in terms of the art and the chase.
Im sleeping because of scarlet violet
Who was saying that scarlet and violet is lackluster? If anything, everyone was saying that SV era is much better so far than the first half of SWSH.
How are they being slept on when they are already way too expensive? I'd buy them if they were affordable,but they are worth a fortune right off the bat. These sets are way too new, I wont put that kind of money into such new cards, the prices will almost certainly drop at some point.
The thumbnail is art rares. To me those are basically vmax cards. The alt arts arent slapping hard enough.
People have a recency bias, values go up the sets must be “good”, so that’s what we are seeing with S & V, having said that - this era is just as good as SWSH without the rainbow Rares people hated.
You had the best outro….. what happened?
I think S&V is doing a great Job when it comes to art.
What this era is currently missing are fan favorite pokemons. The focus is too much on the new Pokemons (which is normal). Take the Ogerpons SIRs in the current set for example.
I think S&V could really hit things out of the park with tag team SIR and IRs. Imagine the Groudon and Tyranitar Art would have been a face off on 1 SIR.
My thoughts exactly. I have more IR than SIR for reasons above. I hope they will focus on the first three gens for the upcoming sets
Sleeping raichu is the best
I don't see the Groudon or Raichu going anywhere in the long run. Groudon is super unpopular in general.
I feel like any legendary from the first 3 gens is at least fairly popular and known at this point. Groundon isn’t some unknown pokemon from Sun & Moon, he’s a cover pokemon from one of the most beloved gens from the entire series, so you’re just wrong.
Super unpopular? Don't think so
All these cards are under valued. In time everything will go up including the Vs, v maxs etc etc once something isn't made anymore demand will go up. Rainbows gold cards etc these are works of art. Far surpassing the regular boring base set of one photo
Bought zero Scarlet and violet so far
Always hated the SwSh era. Almost every card was lazy, uninspiring CGI. The only exception was the Machamp V Alt Art which is also really nice. This is also the artist behind the Alakazam EX SIR.
Overall SV has the better art but they need to feature more Pokémon from the older gen.
Jake really just said he has a booster box doesn’t care if the booster box price fluctuates between 92 and 97, meanwhile he has hundreds of thousands of dollars in pokemon product LOL
okay and?
Yes, the current generation is better than the previous.
I’ve purchased all of these cards in Japanese as they are DRASTICALLY cheaper and I still get the beautiful artwork on a better quality card!
Japanese market is on life support collecting wise...the rare promo cards are a different story though
@@roberttrojan9037 I don’t really understand why, and I keep looking for an explanation. Do you know why? Or does anyone have a video about it?!
Everyone has their opinion on SV era. I personally dont like it at all. The ARs or IRs just dont do it for me. Not a fan of seeing pokemon doing boring human stuff like working or going grocery shopping, that isnt what pokemon is about for me.
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I think that sword and shield is in another league it cannot be competed
I am not saying scarlet and violet is bad
The thing is sw and sh cannot be competed
It's in a different league
SV aside from 151 is such trashhh though
Well yeah because most "investors" aren't fans and just ignorant scalpers trying to turn a quick profit. They're just reactionary, FOMO sheep. S/V art has been the best in the series. The games have been the best selling. There will be a massive generation of fans untainted by Gen 1 nostalgia and look back on this era fondly.
It’s not gonna blows sword n shield out the park bro come on 😅😂
Remember when Jake hyped the Graffiti Pikachu and non-holo Illustration Charizard promo? Both super unpopular literally years later. Poor judgment on those!
What is wrong with you? Psychologically speaking?
You sir. Have serious issues. I feel bad for whoever has to put up with you.
Lmao scarlet and violet is going to go through roof. People talking about it being "boring" sounds like group think.
People sleeping hard on SV
Illustration rares will never beat alternate arts as they are the original cards that started that type of art and are way harder to pull
After what I just saw on the Golurk... Yo delete this video. this was published too soon! I'm trying to buy those ungraded right now!
Here we go…after consistently bashing s&v into oblivion now all of a sudden poketubers all shift and now they’re cool and underrated. Give me a break. 🙄