Stephen A. says ‘shorthanded’ Knicks are facing the pressure heading into Game 5 | NBA Countdown
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- NBA Countdown’s Malika Andrews, Stephen A. Smith and Michael Wibon break down the New York Knicks’ 32-point loss to the Indiana Pacers in Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals and debate it means for the series as it shifts back to Madison Square Garden.
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The Mothers Day Massacre in Indianapolis
Pacers went vintage GSW mode on the Knicks. 😂😂
My son said the same thing 😂
That’s not how they were talking before the game started
100% correct
@@Mario-gd5qklol u mad
😂 it's a wrap for the 7 player rotation Knicks. It's over. @@Mario-gd5qk
@@Mario-gd5qk, who’s being dense? Last I checked it doesn’t make you stupid (or dense…whatever) to be elated that your team won… by A LOT!!!
Facts… why would he be mad after watching that beat down.
when you run a 6-7 man rotation for 2 straight series will catch up to you… you can literally see Jalen Brunson falling off every game…tough to keep up and even if they some how win this series they will be dead come next round
They been running this rotation since Randle went down in the regular season.
Facts he has no lift
@@PatBlackJR exactly that’s a lot of miles for any athlete idc how in shape you are 😂
I'm sure the cowboys are enjoying this to see Stephen a like this
I AM LOVING IT!! It's such an amazing feeling. I haven't smiled this hard all week😁😄
I'm a Cowboys fan AND a Knicks fan. I'm not loving this 😭
@@Renee.Samuels88all week? The Knicks were up 2-0 until Friday night. You were smiling while the Knicks were winning games one and two? You were smiling as Knicks players got hurt?
@@MrDayday4641 I was 😂
@@TheProswagonist How in the world 🌎 does that happen? 😳
Some players and former players are horrible at predicting games. After game 1 with the Bucks Draymond said the Pacers aren't ready for the playoffs, Jeff Teague said "Dame in 5", before this game Kendrick Perkins was calling Haliburton Tyler Hamburger and predicting a big win for the Knicks.
They overreact like always. I'm still laughing at the ESPN video he did where he said Wolves vs OKC was inevitable and predicting sweeps 🤡
"Tyler Hamburger"... WTH, Perk ?!! 🙄
The worst lol
If they were good at predicting games, they would bet their whole earnings and be super rich by now. But the issue isn't that. Their predictions are worse than a coin flip. So, they are basically biased towards the loser, consistently.
@@LonghornsLegendWhy is the Wolves v OKC not possible?? Thats actually a pretty likely matchup, I don’t think that matchup’s possibility is ridiculous at all lol
Them boys legs are gone!!! pacers ARE PACERS FOR A REASON they stamina is unmatched
Setting the PACE 🏁👍🤟
Pacers stamina is unmatched 😂 Every one of them Knicks on the floor played at least 5 full 48 min games, Guys like Hart & Brunson been playing mins like this ALL YEAR. Hali would be crying w a ice pack on his legs if thibs was his coach
@@anthonyabate2248pacers players have been playing the same minytes buddy. Stop with the excuses
The simple explanation is the pacers keep facing banged up teams Milwaukee and now Knicks any other explanation is just over thinking and trying to sound smart.
@@unbiasedcritic9714Excuses? Pacers are the ones that cry about officiating. Not us.
Maybe all the injuries have finally caught up with the Knicks. The fact they are still standing essentially playing with only seven guys is a tremendous achievement. Regardless of what happens in the rest of the series, I'm proud of this team and I think all Knicks fans should be as well.
Aaaw. Knicks have always been great competition for the Pacers in the playoffs. They'll be solid next year. Scary solid 😅
The Knicks should call Garry Vetti who helped Kobe get on the floor even when injured
I think a lot of teams have tried to hire garry vetti but he’s retired and declined he wanted to leave with the Kobe era and not deal with the softies of today
You can't even complain about free throws in this game the Knicks shot 31 free throws while the Pacers shot 8 and they still lost by 32....
Stephen A will find a way to make Tom Thibbeau the victim
No reason for anyone to cry about officiating since the Pacers fans, players, and coaching staff already took that role (also, FT's alone doesn't really tell that story, but good try), so, congratulations, the Pacers beat a team without their starting front court, and one of their best bench players. Really impressive. 🙄😒😐
@@GoatedAtNFS😂😂😂 u know it
Whats more impressive is your coping
@@MrDayday4641Exactly. If anyone was whining, it was the Pacers coach. That's why he was fined 35K after his post game 2 comments in which he trashed the refs and the league.
Dude gets paid 12 million a year to be wrong and have basic takes 😂
That's because people like YOU watch him.
You commenting is showing you are interested in what he has to say which is why he is paid that amount
He’s been covering the sport for 30 years. I smell envy.
@@therealpvc2541
nobody deserves such money for talking crap all the time..
@DunyaLideri-lj3ly He is an on air talent and a producer also.
the fatigue is creeping in for the knicks
That’s why the Pacers are so deadly, the Bench rotation keeping the starters fresh is deadly
@@bucs2081 nah the main reason is the loss of OG. If OG is available for game 3 and 4, it will be a different series. But hey injuries happens, even tho Knicks is really unlucky with 4 key pieces out.
@@shawnchia3611the Knicks being completely gassed wouldn’t have been any different with OG. They’re lucky to have the series even being handed game 1. Brunson has been completely erased with Nesmith on him. Their offense completely shutdown after that switch.
@@shawnchia3611OG played all of game one and you won by four. And it was closer than that. No one wants to give the Pacers any credit. That’s fine! On to the next…
@@shawnchia3611og wouldve been gassed too lol. They won game 1 by 4 with him playing. And thats with a hartenstein halfcourt shop and bogus calls in the 4th.
Its all about the knicks...... yall keep thinking that. Thats exactly what the pacers want
Nah exactly what the pacers want is to keep facing banged up teams to keep it in its simple form.
Knicks could build a Garden's extension with those bricks 🗿
OG has been injury prone his whole career. Now in Thibs system, he will never be fully healthy
Facts he better take a year off don’t be drose
Dude got the worst luck. Missed the Raps championship by almost dying of appendicitis.
Something Mitch. Randle and Bogie who I still admire for his time in indy...all injury prone
Definitely can’t play more than 30 minutes a game
If I were OG, I would request my trade because he has a career to think about. He might have to retire in 2 years under Thibs.
Imagine if the Pacers had Benedict Mathurin healthy. They would be even dirtier 💰
Can’t go their. Knicks have been without 3 of their 5 starters.
Imagine if Knicks had OG , Mitch , Bojan, and Randle… we can play that game as well if you want
@@shoquan9434 Mathurin is better than all of those bums
@@shoquan9434they are all injury prone players for the past few years stop
@@fundamentalbear8347maturin better then a 2 time all star 2 time all nba player?
im starting to like these Pacers
Of course now that the Knicks are hurt.
@@viperrecords3288 these people love excuse!! Just simply accept that Pacers crashed Knicks terribly!!!
@@issu23 Like the pacers cried about officiating.
Now that their depth is depleted, you have to play your starters pretty much the entire game. They can’t stop anyone. All their size is gone. They have to shoot the lights out to win.
i never saw announcers more bored and uninterested than today's game
if knicks were up 40 the whole world woulda lost its mind and crowned them the greatest team in nba history
but it was indiana who destroyed NY and nobody cares about small market tms and announcers were totally silent 1/3 of the time, coming up with excuses (its a 3pm game so knicks are out of whack lol) 1/3 of the time, and the other 1/3 of the time talking about their favorite baseball players growing up lol. but yea no big city big market bias whatsoever
To be fair Breen is the Knicks announcer and a knicks fan so that's probably why his energy was low
He sucks as an announcer@@danbaz13
Now we witnessed how tired the KNICKS are..
I think even f they passed this series they're gonna get swept in the conference finals..
They are exhausted...
Knicks are experiencing "Law of Diminishing returns", injury to key players and dwindling depth came back to bite them. Only a matter of time before they fold. I suggest to build their bench and a better supporting cast to surround Jalen Brunson.
Yeah you’re a genius . They got blown out in one game this whole playoffs . Basically had a win in game 3 , and here you are with your phd in idiotic takes . And a idiotic face in profile
@@charlieboo1830, lol! Basically won game 3.? Well then the Pacers basically won game 1. Next stupid comment?
the knicks have a decent bench, just that during regular season coach thibs doesnt give them enough minutes. Bad coaching decision. Now almost all his regular starters are hurt and he has to rely on bench players to play in the playoffs.
This is not the case you don't loose by 30 plus becasue of one player and all of a sudden it's fatigue. It was a bad game for them all over and effort was lacking.
Brunsons help is in the hospital
Next man up 🆙
THIBODEAU NEEDS TO PLAY GUYS ON THE BENCH,,,,STOP RUNNING YOUR STARTERS IN THE GROUND!!!!💯💯💯
Maybe you should apply for a nba coaching job since you think you know what your talking about
@@Tacodip420 GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!!!!
@@Tacodip420lmfao please. Act like that isn’t an issue… everyone and they Brother know this a problem 😂😂😂😂😂
@@mandyshonk9088 you should apply to be his assistant coach
@@mandyshonk9088They can’t play those bums they’ll just get cooked anyway 😭😭
As a Pacers fan it’s so unreal to think we’re this close to the ECF after missing the playoffs the least few years completely. I think if we get game 5, we close it out in Indy but I do not like the idea of going to the garden for a potential game 7.
Yall aint going to ecf buddy. I can assure you that
@@ericisgreatIf Knicks get to g7 they will only have 4 player left at that pace. Indy plays great team bball instead od relying completely on one althought great player
@@ericisgreat okay 🤣
No one in sports media has really congratulated the Pacers yet. The whole story is excuses for the Knicks.
And guess what...if you be Pacers win this series, the narrative will be that you beat two teams with injuries... totally unfair but it is what it is.
Nobody congratulates the Knicks ever and y’all don’t get any props for beating a hurt team after crying about the refs.
"they're short-handed", blame your coach for playing injury prone players 33-40 minutes/game. NYK fans were talkin' crazy a couple days ago, what happened?
Minutes Catching up on the Villanova 3 need more support next year
the only time knicks win is when refs give them every single call and brunson gets away with his oscar worthy flops
Only time pacers win is when they cry about the refs. Y’all not gonna beat us 3 straight
@@viperrecords3288 huh? what do the refs have to do with the absolute beatdown indy gave knicks? they were up by 43 points at one point. what does crying or refs or anything other than pure talent and domination have to do with that? either you were born yesterday or you're high as f. either way keep your mouth shut if you dont have a clue about anything
TJ McConnell giving the Knicks work. The dude get's a double double in the minutes he is given. That will create confusion on the defensive coverage for the Knicks. As mentioned 6 Pacers (almost 8 with Nesmith and Nembrand a field goal away from 10 pts ) got double figures. I've said after the Sixers series, the Knicks have overachieved because they are shorthanded compared to their opponents. I commend the Knicks for fighting every game. But this last one just exposed how banged up and lacking their line-up is. Every one is hurt somehow at this point of the season but the Knicks have been the most banged up.
The Knicks series has Been the best playoff series to watch , facts !
When are we going to admit Thibs over playing his players during the season is the reason behind their downfall??
Knicks injuries are gonna be the reason they lose the series
Aside from dirty plays from 76ers. Thibs needs to start using his bench like Pop and put minute caps during regular season - its all about postseason success from here on out, if he cant do that, we may need a new coach.
Oh, so they are short handed now, huh? What happened to the Sweep by this same short handed team? You guys seldom knows what you are talking and say the most ridiculous things for ratings. Good luck to both teams in the next 3 games.
Facts
that was before we lost Mitch and OG
I agree with Stephen A. The only reason the Knicks lost is because they were ‘shorthanded’ otherwise they would be handedly winning this series
It was 100% predictable and obvious, we all knew this will happen and everybody said they will be tired,injured and shorthanded in the playoffs because the coach let them play that much and that hard everybody was calling that even sas
@@sensei_...half the Knicks team is out including 3 starters. C’mon no one deserves injuries
@@sensei_... yeah cus Mitchell Robinson playing 15 mins makes it thibs fault, bro shut up this whole argument of injuries isn't only on thibs its on the players themself as well, no injury is deserved reword that disgusting statement.
@@Ballin-97 deserve is the false word more it wa spredictable and the logic consequence of playing those guys that mucha dn that hard
No one cares that the Knicks are hurt. When you rotate 7-8 guys and play 3 guys 38+ minutes a game you get tired and hurt. That isn't the Pacers' fault. If the Knicks don't have the depth, that is on management.
Can we talk about the Knicks coaching and sub patterns. They are running the Knicks to the ground. They gotta depend on their bunch more.
All Indy ppl know abt the pacer test😂😂
Hey New York, Pacers at your door screaming "WE OUTSIDE!"
I thought y’all was screaming whaaaaaaa the refs are mean to us 😭
@@viperrecords3288 How's the 30 bomb feeling today?
@@springheeledjack165 Y’all gonna stop crying now? No more grievances?
@@viperrecords3288 Refs still trying to help you, Pacers just ran you out the gym. About to put you down in the garden. Then your back to the stark reality of living in that dirty ahh city.
@@springheeledjack165 You have to be the biggest cry babies aside from the Sixers. Your coach looked like a Karen on TV. Should be ashamed. We took our L like men no excuses. AND we’re playing hurt. See you in the garden and Indiana is dump that nobody wants to visit not even the players who play there 😂
Can't say im surprised. That's what happens when you play all your starters over 40+ mins in every game.
The east man so many injuries its crazy
As a loong suffering Knicks fan ya always waiting for the kick in the nuts to come and here we are.
Having the best offense in history while being able to play defense 94 feet with two competent units at pace and efficiency is absolutely killer against the Knicks old school philosophy of running their players into the ground.
Denver is going to repeat
Best offense in history is a stretch calm down...
@@johnc4182I think they were in regular season PPG all time though? So not that much of a stretch. They may not have as much outright firepower as a 17-19 Dubs, but they have great weapons everywhere for sure.
@smtbg you get what I was eluding to then. Most points doesn't mean the best ever. And hard to compare eras with the points argument as the NBA isn't the same game as it was even 20 yrs ago. Steph changed the game. I grew up in the 90s and that NBA was way more physical and they didn't shoot a million 3s and played inside out. Even before then there wasn't even a 3 point line. I would say that they can be a potent offense when they are clicking but when it's bad it's very bad. I just think the best offense ever would be dominant from start to finish and be a higher rated seed and they also play in the east.
@johnc4182 You can look up the numbers if you wish. Objectively, they are number 1. Obviously people will have attachments to other great teams, but the numbers are what they are.
Man, Malika Andrews is a great host.
Thibs was wrong for even mentioning OG's injury ...when it's HIM that has players gassed and he is not making the adjustments in his preposterous low seven man rotation
This is the same guy who said the Knicks were going to cruise game 4
They could have won on tues if they was not injured they prob could have swept them. You cant blame knicks if they lose this. Everyone going down from injuries not that they playing bad.
@@kevintirado606 please stop excuse!! admit your defeat!!!
It's amazing how the loss of OG Anunoby changed the entire complexion of the series. Gonna take some real heroics from Mighty Mouse Jalen Brunson for the Knicks to win Game 5. I'm talking 50-Burger. At the very least.
And that ain’t happenin on them tired legs he got right now. 😅
OG was just fine game 1 and y’all barely escaped with that win. Maybe give the Pacers a little credit? They are a good team. Not our fault nobody paid attention to us lowly old Hoosier Hicks. 😂😅
Is this one of the most compromised Eastern Conference playoffs in a long time?
When the bucks won there was a lot of injuries that year too
Nice to see Stephan A. Whitlock Smith subdued & not hyperventilating like usual.
As a cowboys fan I’m loving every single second of this
Knicks looked tired. They had no legs. They are in trouble.
I've seen some comments about the Pacers missing Benedict Mathurin and how he would be a game changer in the PLAYOFFS....Can someone tell me how many points, rebounds, and assists he has averaged in the PLAYOFFS in his NBA career?
Brunson not making excuses. LeExcuse would've totally made excuses that he was shorthanded. And that's a fact.
LeBron taking stray shots for no reason. He really does live in people’s heads rent free.
He is. People being dumb for internet likes 😂@@Tears4Tacos.
Look up who has the best performances in elimination games then get back to us, thanks 👍
Ayy Steven A keep that same energy when you said the timberwolves was going 2 sweep the nuggets . Don’t switch up
Going 7 Games at MSG
Pacers are gonna finish this in 6, Knicks are gassed and defeated
Pacers in 6! BOOM BABY 🎉
@@mandyshonk9088MSG Knicks in 7
I love it when Stephen A gets made to look a fool
Stop talking about fatigue, no legs, and short-handed. The Pacers strategically run the transition and they tired out the Knicks. Pacers have great 3-point shooting and swarming defense. Knick's Hart contributed only 2 pts in the last game. That's where the problems started. The Knicks may be tired but it's because of the Pacer's fast game-play and not Knicks being short-handed.
They win short handed they all world then they lose short handed and there's EXCUSES
Fatigue finally catched up to them.
But thibs his specialty, keep running his player to the ground
Boy you sound like you was sitting around waiting for them to fail. Hate deep in ya blood.
Sorry bro the Knicks have given all they have. This series is over. It's only so much that they can do. I have a huge respect for the Knicks but they don't have the pieces to get the job done. I really hate to say it.
Do y’all understand that the pacers had the lead for the first two games and lost towards the end I’m surprised they not up 3-1
To be fair the refs absolutely stole game 1 from Indiana
They could just as easily be down 3-1. The Knicks had the lead late in game 3. Shoot, if the Knicks had Randle, Mitch, OG, and Bogdanovic the Pacers would be on vacation right now.
They would also be done already if nembhard didn’t make that miracle shot
Who told tibs to play hes team 40+ mins since January
Inject a shred of Grammer in your comment my guy. Jesus.
true the Knicks are shorthanded, but there's more problems than that. the offense looks terrible, it's just Brunson isoing everything and kicking out once in a while. the defense is bad too, everyone on the pacers was wide open on the 3 point line.
NO the Nicks coaching staff doesn't know how to substitute. The playoffs takes its toll on players who are already tired from a grueling season
Can we stop listing Julius Randle being missing as a reason Knicks lose a playoff game. That guy is a complete no show in the playoffs. All the other injured players like Robinson are valid. This is probably the perfect time to move off that guy and teams will give a lot for him because he tricks everyone in the regular season so often.
In case anyone wants Randle's stats in the playoffs, here they are:
17.1 points, 9.4 rebounds and 3.7 assists on 33.6 FG% and 29.55% from three.
They switched up real quick
Knicks in 7 I know we’re banged up but I’m not giving up on them
Y'all not winning another game
@@MrLiodtitansnot one. They done
Knicks fans will keep saying they winning until they beaten so it’s okay. We already looking forward to Boston in Indiana
Knicks morale was at a low this game. Stephen A. out here rooting for the 76ers
He don't mention shorthanded in the first two games😅
this beat down is embarrassing especially in the 2nd round of the playoffs but I do get it Knicks missing key players due to injuries
Where has the Knicks defense been? They are playing into the pacers hand and system. Force them to play into your system
He is still moving it's fine ladies
soon as i seen the whole 1st quarter my gut was telling me this aint gonna be a good one for u
s... we'll get em in the next one💯💪
Brunson isn’t making the excuses that SAS is making. The “ #1” fan is a little nervous now.
Now that the Knicks are dead tired …. Like no one said
Tim tibidow is a defensive version of mike de Antony play 6 to 7 man rotaion and get guys injured quickly. Its an art that he has mastered. Hence as long as he is the coach the kincks will never win a championship
Knicks and Minnesota are in trouble 😬 😳
If OG n Harstein are out for the series, they are screwed
Yes they will
I know this is just a clip, but was the post game all about the Knicks?
It is fixed... In a week we will be here saying than the Nicks are great. Management felt the heat today and decided to put a spin.
I thought New York already had the parade route planned out
I get it. The Knicks are missing key players, and their all star is banged up. Sucks, but what do you want us to do? Not enjoy this victory.? You all wouldn’t give two shits if the Pacers were missing guys. All knotted up… on to the next!
Where is KENDRICK PERKINS putting no respect on Indiana PACERS
Perk living rent free in your head.
Because a light skin guy is the star of the team.
Doesn’t matter who wins this series. Boston already have the brooms on standby.
The Knicks have young talented players on the bench. Playing them would take pressure off the starters
No we don't 🤣🤣🤣
Only one is Mcbride and he gets minutes
No excuses please
No excuses just facts, one team has all of their players and one doesn’t
knicks beat 6ers with best player on 1 leg and 3 more guys injured. no talk if that from Philly. Man up Knicks.
@@TehMarcyPacers don't have Benedict Mathurin, don't hear them crying about that do you?
@@user-qw7xq7ni9pthat take is $+up!d. Embiid being hurt wasn't more important than Randle being completely out! That's 25 pts, 9 rebs, and 6 asts to replace. Take a player with those stats away from any team and see what they turn into.
@fundamentalbear8347 there are people who smoke rocks that realize that's not even close to the same as what the Knicks are missing right now!
Congratulations To The Indiana Pacers For Defeating The New York Knicks 121-89
The Knicks need more people they don't have enough
Not the Pacers fault
Why is Jericho Sims breathing....useless😢
GOTTA PLAY THE YOUNG FELLA,,,,CANT JUST THROW HIM IN THE GAME ICE COLD!!!!
of course the excuses come in. but if its other teams "injuries are part of the game" "everyone's banged up". miss me with that.
Since when are injuries excuses you literally can’t play 😂
@@TehMarcy when it come to the narrative of “we would’ve won if so and so is not injured. Skip Bayless also lives on that island. The “if” island.
I hope the Pacers do the same thing to the Knicks in game 5 at MSG.
I hope we shoot better at home.
lol they put they hope In Randle 😂
The Knicks are probably banged up but they’re still winning in 6 although the way Haliburton has been playing balling since game 2 I think the Pacers might have a shot of winning
He knows the end is near 😆
How do all ur starters come out in the middle of the 3rd quarter sad
it was over! first good decision Thibs made all game
Well the Knicks are very shorthanded and Brunson is injured. It's not an excuse. Just a fact. Regardless, they are just going to have to try to do better next game. Losing by as much as they did today is embarrassing. I know they can at least do better than that sad performance they put on today. I'm a Knicks fan but they got their butts whooped today. Plain and simple. I'm trying to stay optimistic but it's hard. If OG isn't back by game 6, it's going to be VERY difficult.
Stephen A got a different tone today 😂
Games 1,2,3,4 have no ideas about game 5. Plus they will be at home.
There's not time for excuses. The rest of the players just have to put their big boy pants on and earn their keep...if they want to be kept.
Nobody giving the pacers credit for the w. Lets go pacers.
They beat a depleted Knicks team at home..what credit?
O stop everyone pick us to lose still
They beat who stepped on the court. If this was any other team with 20 year olds on a sixth seed team in there first playoffs it would be considered a Cinderella story.
They won 2 games at home..and almost lost game 3..bro you want a cookie??
@@GraitBritton nah. The dub is enough. It would be cool to click on a pacers video and not hear what the other team did wrong like the pacers aren't out there competing. And it's not just this series. It was happening when the pacers were the number one seed taking the heatles to the ecf. Doesn't matter. Pacers never get the cred