Firebox Freestyle - What You Need to Know for the Kickstarter
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- In this video I provide information on the new Firebox Freestyle that will help viewers decide if they want to support the Kickstarter campaign
www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
Specifications (for single stove)
• Height 6 1/8” - 15.56cm
• Width 4” - 10.2cm
• Burn chamber 4 ¾” - 12.1cm
• Weight 1lb 7.8oz - 675g
Complete Kit
Included: (Total Weight 4.29lbs - 1946g)
• Nylon case
• Four-sided stove x 2
o Hinged metal box
o Square fire grate
o Four firesticks
o Rectangular grill
o Cotton stuff sack
o Ranger band
o Instructional booklet
• Short rectangle fire grate 7 ¾” x 3 ¾”
• Long rectangle fire grate 11 ½” x 3 ¾” (does not fit in case)
• Large square fire grate 8 ½” x 7 ¼”
• Regular Polygon (six-sided) fire grate 6 5/8”
• Large round fire grate 9 ½”
• 2 - Long fire sticks 10 ¼”
The titanium versions include:
Ti Firesticks, Ti Grate, Ti grill (same size as SS), Steel Fire pan tin box.
Weights for Configurations:
Tri Torch (three panels, no firesticks) Stainless 8oz Titanium 5oz
4" Freestyle + 2 Firesticks & grate = pack weight - Stainless 13oz Titanium 8oz
4" Freestyle Kit + 4 Firesticks, grate, grill tin fire pan Stainless 24oz Titanium 17oz
7" Hexagon Storm +2 Firesticks, grate Stainless 22oz Titanium 13oz
8" Bushcrafter + 2 Firesticks, grate Stainless 20oz Titanium 14oz
10" Octagon FirePit + 4 Firesticks, grate Stainless 27oz Titanium 19oz
12" Field Kitchen +4 Firesticks, grate Stainless 27oz Titanium 19oz
Thank you very much Mark! That was a very nicely done presentation / explanation of the Firebox Freestyle System. Your viewers are lucky have found such a gem. You are the stove whisperer. As I've watched your videos it's easy to see that your experience backs up your words. Information with integrity is what makes your channel so valuable 👍😎🙏 I am editing a trip video now but as soon as it's finished I plan to put together an instructional video that will make the freestyle processes much more streamlined. We have figured out a few simple tricks that make a world of difference compared to just going for it. It's one of those things that can seem tricky until you know it's secrets, then it's a piece of cake.
Hi Steve. Thank you so much for your kind words. I am having fun with the Freestyle with more videos to come. The next to be recorded is the Bushcraft-8 and Firepit-8. I will be demonstrating the easy way of connecting the two stoves together as well. Having said that, I am sure your demonstration video will be much more precise. Thank you again for providing me your latest innovation is stove design.
Anything From Steve Is A Winner ! Love My Nano. Thanks For The View, Mark. ATB T God Bless
Right on. Thanks for commenting Terry
We must have had a miscommunication. The titanium stove kits have titanium fire sticks. It's the mod kit which is only made in stainless steel which include the extra long fire sticks the hexagon fire grate the octagon fire grate and the two in one Bushcraft style fire grate.
Yes, I re-read the email you sent and realize I misinterpreted it. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft sorry for the abrupt comments... Lol! I was packing up loading the car at the same time.
Thanks Mark. As always, an excellent review.
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Thank you Mark for this video and demo .. very helpful with the comparisons
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Glad you were sent one.. Good review as always, I like it.
Thanks for watching
Haven't watched yet, but how cool you have one already; awesome!!!
I was honoured Steve sent one to me. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the great comparison, that answers a couple of questions about that stove setup .. & created a few more 😂. 🔥🇨🇦
Yes, I know. Only so much time in one video. Plenty more to come. Thanks for commenting
Good stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
Very interesting thanks for sharing this video
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Being able to do the different setups is a great idea. I think just using one of the stoves because of the size of it, is worth it. Can’t wait for you to cook something delicious on it…..😘😉👏👏👏👏👏
So far, I have had five fires and cooked three meals. Two more videos already recorded. I can see myself using a single stove more often than the larger configurations. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the overview. I agree with you that the individual stove will be the most used/practical .
Yes, I may occasionally use the 6 and 8 sided configurations but will likely carry the single stove the most. Thanks for commenting
Been seeing that stove on tiktok and other places. Can't wait for the review.
Right on. Five fires so far. Thanks for commenting
Great video. You’re a gem
I appreciate that! Thanks for commenting
Now im sellout based on this review, review is very self explanatory and probably for those who could not able to follow a side panel numbering it's nice if it is explain as well. 8 panel/side is way to go.
Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for commenting
I like the size of the Freestyle. The full kit sure is versatile though. The larger sizes would make a nice contained campfire. Thanks, Mark. 👍🙂🔥
Yes, The Freestyle hits the sweet spot between the other two stoves. Perfect for most one-person uses. The largest firepit would definitely replace a campfire. Thanks for commenting
Hello from British Columbia Canada 🇨🇦👍👋♥️🌧
Thanks for commenting
I love the Nano for my morning coffee. And, when combined with the 5", it's my "2nd burner" when cooking. I just received the full freestyle kit and will test to see how to integrate it into my usual cooking system...
Right on. Sounds like the Freestyle will fit in nicely
Great introduction to the FBF, I like the idea of the octagon fire pit which I would use with my Petromax fire pit/grill.
Interesting idea. I am considering how to make the best use of the two 8-sided configurations. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I could use it two ways, (1) use the FBF under the Petromax and use the Petromax as a grill or (2) use the Petromax as a fire pit with FBF on it keeping the fuel in a tidy concentrated circle and block some wind and use a tripod or adjustable fire grate/grill to cook with, this would be my preferred method.
I cut some spare Petromax legs so it’s only 100mm (4”) off the ground to make it work better with a tripod and hanging grill.
Thanks Mark. I had several questions regarding the Freestyle. You are the only one to address those questions. For my applications a midsize stove is ideal.
Right on. That is what I had hoped to do with this video. Thanks for commenting
I like the grate!
Right on. Thanks for commenting
THANK YOU 🌲🌲🌲
You are so welcome!
Great informational review as always Mark. If you could only have one stove, I can see this would be the perfect modular adjustable stove for all occasions. Since I already have many stoves this doesn't work for me. I see a learning curve to make the different configurations. I know Steve has great designs, great products, but this one not for me. I have several Firebox Stoves and pans which are great! I still have my (fake?) Picogrill's I purchased on Amazon and for the weight and functionality they are best for me. I have had at least 100 fires and they are doing great. As always, thanks for continuing your reviews!
True, this is more stove than most people will want or use. At least the full set is. An individual stove is actually quite sweet for its size and weight. Putting the 6 and 8 sides together is quite easy once you know the trick. Thanks for commenting
Wow, I have long wanted a med sized firebox stove this is very interesting. I would definitely go for a single but the fact you can also build a small firepit would make this a great kit to throw in the truck or boat camping box. I often use the UCO flatpack grills but the lack of airflow makes for a smoky fire. Excellent overview Mark, thanks!
Hello my friend. I can see myself going with a single stove more often than the full kit. I have both the standard and mini UCO stoves and agree about the airflow issue with wood. Not many people talk about it. I have a video planned to address my observations. Thanks for commenting
Just a suggestion, drill 4-5 holes in each side of the UCO and you’ll have better air flow. I won’t substitute the firebox but after all you already have the UCO, I did that to mine and is much better.
Thanks Mark for giving us a great video and putting the new stove in context with the others. You can tell a lot of thinking went into the design. I can definitely see some good applications for the new stove.
This is a very flexible design for sure. I am trying to come up with just the right meal for the 8-sided configuration😊. Thanks for commenting Chris
He should have named this "The Houdini" because it changes configurations like magic
LOL... actually, Steve does call them magic. Thanks for commenting
Here is the link to the Kickstarter www.kickstarter.com/projects/foldingfirebox/firebox-freestyle-modular-camping-stove?ref=ksr_email_user_watched_project_launched
It’s a great stove system, had great fun with mine!!
Yes, I did see you videos. Thanks for commenting
Great Video Mark,,,,
Couple of thoughts,,,
1) I really enjoyed and was informed about Pine Pollen., from your video. I definitely will try to harvest some this spring,, iam keeping a eye on the trees in Virginia.
2) Great Video on the FB Freestyle. I’ll be picking up the titanium complete set from the kickstart. You mentioned about, “to Much air flow “, possibility from the larger bottom Fire grate. I wonder if that’s what will occur, or would small pieces of metal over parts of each grate design work,,,,,
Looking forward to figuring that Out,,,,!!!!! Blessings. Joshua
Hi Joshua. I am sure you will love your Ti Freestyle. Yes, I have tried solid plates and it does help. I will be talking about them in a future video. Thanks for commenting
This is the ultimate stove, no need really for any other! I am a stovie and feel this one has it all I think. Can solid fuel tabs be used with it as well? If so this would be all I would need! Lol. Thanks for the run down and explanation. 😊
Hi Jackie. Yes, you can use solid fuel with the Freestyle. You would need to set the fire grate at the preferred height which is easy to do and you would need a piece of foil or small metal plate to hold the fuel tablet. Thanks for commenting
Crap! I thought I was all set with my Firebox, Firebox Ti and Nano Ti. Obviously, I'm going to need the big kit!
LOL...stoves can be a never ending obsession. Thanks for commenting
Great presentation as usual Mark. Think I'll be sticking to my 5" titanium. This looks to be overkill.
A single Freestyle is a nice sweet spot between the larger 5" and the Nano. I can see how the whole kit would too much for many people. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft The fire restrictions getting to be what they are, the firebox in any size may be headed to backyard use only. I've heard that alcohol burners and soon pressure gasoline burners will be restricted in some areas. Driving us to canister stoves and the problem of what to do with the empty bloody canisters.
Nice stove, I like the small Stove, but I use a little bigger bestargot Stove for a year or so now, and I have to say, a little bigger helps a lot. I love for it has the perfect size
I am liking bigger stoves as well. Only problem with them is they usually weigh more. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft sure, but most Times i take only short walks so the weight dont bother me so much
Looks convoluted.
Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the detailed preview Mark. I’m still trying to decide if I would like the Freestyle better than my Bushbox LF, and I’d love to see a weight comparison. I do find that six plate option interesting, but don’t think I’d be willing to purchase an entire additional stove to facilitate that.
Firebox posted a CZcams image the other day with a bunch of weights listed for the various configurations of the Freestyle, for reference.
I will likely do a side by side at some point. The weights are in the video description. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I just weighed my stainless LF and it came in at just under 17 ounces (including pot supports). Not a lot heavier than the 13 ounces you listed for the Freestyle. And I think for a fair comparison you’d have to add two more fire sticks for pot supports.
Also, your large grill isn't as big as the large grill that will come with the regular kit. The final design is 9.5 in x 9.5 in.
Was not aware of that. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft sorry mark, I don't know from where I was remembering 12x12 but now that I'm back in the office with a tape measure I can see it's nine and a half by 9 and 1/2 inches which snuggly fits into the case. Sorry about that, trying to answer questions from up on the mountain... lol!
Nice review. I know I am interested in the single titanium which I think would get a lot of use. But still considering the entire package because I love the versatility. But not sure I’d want to pay the anticipated price of the entire package in titanium.
I also think I would use the single titanium version most often. The full kit will be pricey. Thanks for commenting
You can add carbon felt under the cooking grade and soak the carbon felt with alcohol. This makes this Firebox Freestyle a hybrid. Half wood half liquid fuel stove with the tray. :)
Interesting idea. I will try this as part of my testing. Thanks for commenting
Hey Mark, thanks for the video. What I would be interested in is how this compares to the brennerle stove you recently reviewed
Yes, I could do that. Not sure when but I will put it on my list. Thanks for commenting
Morning Mark! I think an in between size is a good idea, and to be able to make a monster stove when you want is pretty awesome, but I wonder about the fire grates. Apart from looking cheap (though given that you need like 5 of them, that’s understandable), I wonder if there will be too much air flow. Probably with the bigger sticks, to small logs in the lager set ups it would be good, but in the regular configuration, would there be too much? I was planning of getting the titanium full size, but maybe I’ll wait and see how this one turns out.
Well, you have plenty of material here to do several videos. Now get out there and start cooking! 😀
Already on it Jim. Two more videos recorded. So far, the open fire grate is plenty strong but it does draw a lot of air. They go through wood fast. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yeah, that’s what I thought, but I guess you’re using larger pieces of wood to compensate a little. Sticks would burn in a minute.
I like the size of the stove. I have no need for the expanded kit but would use the single setup. That said I own a 5” firebox and two nanos and I’m not sure if I need an additional stove right now.
We always need mores stoves😂. I can see myself using a single stove much more often than the larger configurations. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I own 29 stoves. I don’t need another one. Plus, I’ve paid for all 29 stoves. 😀
💙👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you😊
Hello Mark, Very good first look. Do you know if a stainless freestyle and a titanium freestyle would pair and properly function in the expanded configurations?
Great question. I have a single titanium version coming so I will be sure to see if they will mate up. I would assume so but you never know. Thanks for commenting
We don't recommend mixing the titanium with the stainless steel. We worked hard to achieve consistency between the two materials but titanium forms so much differently than stainless steel making a perfect match impossible.
Could you please tell me what the over all size of the octagon shape is. I just ordered a freestyle kit is.
It measures 1.25" from side to side. Thanks for commenting
Interesting! Honestly I've always thought the nano a joke, and the gen2 to be a small stove... On the other hand the scout has looked like a handy unit, just a pain to pack at times... but its not designed to pack. This is, as I said, an interesting size.
When in the 6 panel or 8 panel configurations, do they still simply fold flat to store, (albeit thicker) or do you have to take them apart again each time?
I have a video coming demonstrating the two 6-sided configurations. The combination fits in a single stove box all attached and folded up. I have not had fires in the two 8-sided configurations yet. Thanks for commenting
Six-sided configurations will fold into a single stack just a bit thicker. Eight-sided configurations will still fold up but not into a single stack it becomes two stacks that are connected.
Hi Mark. Slightly off topic, but, due to your recommendation I purchased a sample pack of Rampage coffee. Your favourite is Code Black, please let me know what coffee ratio you use, for your favourite brew. I’m having trouble getting used to this new, to me, coffee brew system. Any assistance will be most welcome.
Alan
Coffee amounts differ for most people but a good place to start is 15 grams for each 250 ml of water. The brew method will also affect strength. A French press will be stronger than a pour-over, etc. Best to start with the 15grams and adjust from there. I personally prefer the Code Blk but at home my wife and I compromise by blending it with the Riot. Hope this helps
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thanks for your reply, Mark. Gets me started in the right direction.
Alan
Is the "Freestyle" & it's accessories available now ?
You will have to check the Firebox website for that. Thanks for commenting
hmm, so only four sides in the large pack. Wonder why it's called a kit? I was thinking it would contain 8 sides.
~ I got the Nano to use with a Trangia as well. Seems a good match when trying to remain gossamer.
~~ I looked at your tripod video and it got me thinking of my heavy iron three piece from a smithy.
It looks like you use a cup/small pot with a bail handle...which got me thinking of my pigtail iron hooked standout to use with one vertical length...sooo adjustable on the fly.
I see some make them in SS rod and 10.5" long, for a lantern or a bailed pot. Longer would be nice..maybe make one if find the right rod material? (search pigtail lantern hook)
Small fire any which way(Dakota pit too?), grab the proper dia. straight branch to stick in earth, and pop on the pigtailed adjustable hook and you're cooking in the bailed pot. Bam! ~ How gossamer of kit is that?
~ tips me hat.
I think the kit will have two stoves, eight sides. The minimum you can buy is one four-sided stove (SS or ti) in one tin.
So, the Freestyle kit comes with two complete stoves that you combine to make the 6 and 8 side configurations. I have been considering a modern SS version of a "squirrel cooker" or "fire anchor". I would be interested in any links you may have. Thanks for commenting
It's called a kit because it comes with a grill and a fire pan case as well as the stove.
Just looks like a honey box stove to me.
or the honey stove looks like it
Where in Canada can I purchase this from?
Can only be bought directly from Firebox at this point. Thanks for commenting
What is the price? Great video!
You will need to check the Kickstarter link in the video description. Thanks for commenting
.......the walking sticks complete the story.
Thanks for commenting
Can I still join the kick starter campaign ?
You will have to check the link. Thanks for commenting
Interesting 🤔, but seams less flexible than our #FlexFire.
There are some definite similarities as well as differences. Thanks for commenting
Feed ports look awfully small.. can't fit anything more than a twig by the looks of it.
Also, having feed ports on almost every side would let embers spill out in every direction. For people who use these sorts of stoves as a safer alternative to a campfire, it defeats the purpose. The grate ruggedness isn't very confidence inspiring either, especially if used as a hard burning camp fire.
Modularity is nice I suppose. Three sided seems completely pointless though.
The feed ports are about the same size as the other two stoves, intended for long narrow sticks. So far, the fire grates are standing up well to some very hot fires. The open nature draw a lot of air. They go through wood fast. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft good to hear! Looking forward to seeing how it fares in the long run
The shownotes prove why metric is superior to imperial, and I say this as a son of the land that gave us imperial measurements. The single-stove is 675 grams, the configurations are not given in grams. But that's okay, imperial measurements were used for single-stove and other configurations, so some guesstimates can be made by comparing the imperial units. So single-stove is 1lb 7.8oz and the configurations are 8 through 27 ounces. So to make at-a-glance comparison you need your, erm, sixteen times table memorised.
As I say, as an Englishman I don't give the French for very much, but I doff my Parisian beret to them regarding metric.
As for the stove, it seems remarkably similar to the Honey Stove & Hive Expansion, UK made, available in SS and Ti.
In Canada metric and imperial are spoke in the same sentence
@@MarkYoungBushcraft and I want to make it clear I'm having a go at the imperial system, not you. I think you know that but I hope it's nice to be reassured of it. :-)