The Surprisingly Interesting Debate of Where Outer Space Actually Begins

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Komentáře • 663

  • @TodayIFoundOut
    @TodayIFoundOut  Před 3 lety +21

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    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek Před 3 lety +14

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      @ms.debourghofrosings6829 Před 3 lety +1

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    • @ParadymShiftVegan
      @ParadymShiftVegan Před 3 lety

      Aww ... I thought we were gonna talk about cosmology (x thanks for the excellent content as always!

    • @jackrotz2139
      @jackrotz2139 Před 3 lety

      I REALLY want to know what the MUSIC is in the background, PLEASE

  • @CraigSheppard
    @CraigSheppard Před 3 lety +90

    My takeaways from this video:
    1. Nobody can settle on where space begins.
    2. Holy crap that cereal is $10 a box!

    • @dawnklug6986
      @dawnklug6986 Před 3 lety +8

      To 1. I asked myself that question in 1967 at 11 years old and came to the conclusion that even if there was an end.......there couldn't be a real final end as there would be something beyond that due to our sys-
      tem having to be floating within something else. To #2 Yep....that's why when I saw the price plus shipping I said I would stick with eggs and oatmeal.

    • @justincollins4262
      @justincollins4262 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s honestly a great cereal though, surprisingly great. The only downside is that it tends to stick in your teeth.

    • @miniaturekitty9679
      @miniaturekitty9679 Před 3 lety +3

      @@justincollins4262 is it really that good? I wanted to buy some because simon makes it sound great, as well as the nutritional values they require him to read by the letter, but the price is shocking. Also it may sound childish but the artwork on the boxes is a major turnoff

    • @epowell4211
      @epowell4211 Před 3 lety

      IDK how many servings are in a box, but I'd guess around 10. I'm currently eating meal bars for breakfast because I'm lazy, and they cost between $.75 and $1.50 USD, so the cereal would be comparable. Milk makes me wheeze, though, so I wouldn't buy it for myself, however (before he died) I planned on getting some for my diabetic cereal loving dad. I swear, at any given time my parents have at least 5 boxes of cereal going - they love to mix.

    • @TheAussieRepairGuy
      @TheAussieRepairGuy Před 3 lety

      Welcome to Australia where most cereals cost that...
      also - reasonably sure that's just cardboard with artificial sweetener and flavor sprayed on it.

  • @innapinch7112
    @innapinch7112 Před 3 lety +82

    This is bringing back a great memory. At least two years ago, my thirteen year old (eleven at the time) asked me how many miles it was to space. I looked it up and got three numbers. Trying to find clarification, I found two more. Meanwhile, my daughter (fifteen at the time) was joining the debate with stuff she heard in school, and my youngest (three at the time) was running around half naked with his Buzz Light-year stuffed animal yelling "MOON!" over and over. I came away intrigued and spent the night reading all about the debate, my son came away frustrated that he didn't have an answer, and I completely forgot about all of that until this video popped up in my feed.

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 Před 3 lety +7

      Engineer answer: Space is wherever you need RCS (little rockets) to maneuver.
      Rockets like the Falcon 9 have so much sideways momentum they actually push a considerable amount of atmosphere in front of them, so space starts further up.
      Suborbital vehicles have almost no velocity at their peak so they are already in space at a much lower altitude.
      Space doesn't begin or end it's a gradient, so it depends on the vehicle, the altitude, and the speed.

    • @cavemanlovesmoke4394
      @cavemanlovesmoke4394 Před 3 lety

      Yeah haha my son loves space too! But I told him space is fake and the earth is flat so...

    • @innapinch7112
      @innapinch7112 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cavemanlovesmoke4394 You win the internet today, good sir!

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 Před 3 lety

      How could you forget about it? After telling your oldest daughter "do your homework, I'm not going to say it again". And saying to your youngest daughter, "settle down, your mother's serving up dinner and then it's off to bed". Then saying to your son "I haven't got time tonight, we'll have a look tomorrow". And simultaneously thinking about work tomorrow and the upcoming rates notice? The cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon...
      I love being an "empty nester".

    • @innapinch7112
      @innapinch7112 Před 3 lety +1

      @@davidbrayshaw3529 That's such a crushingly sad song.

  • @Kenxclout
    @Kenxclout Před 3 lety +25

    I have a space pun
    But i need a little more time to planet

  • @Kenxclout
    @Kenxclout Před 3 lety +45

    What do you call a lazy space explorer?
    A procrastronaut

  • @O5680
    @O5680 Před 3 lety +39

    The start of space should be defined as being about 1 inch above the highest altitude Jeff Bezos has ever reached.

  • @jasonrodgers9063
    @jasonrodgers9063 Před 3 lety +45

    I remembered after seeing the "airspace sovereignty" segment toward the end a definition of property rights from early 1800's Kentucky law that defined your property as "a wedge the shape of your property boundaries that starts as a single point in Hell and ends as a wide swath at the boundary of Heaven"!

    • @Thelango99
      @Thelango99 Před 3 lety +1

      It actually does makes sense though. as you have a certain percentage of the earth surface (as your property) and the further up you go, the bigger the property gets as the total area increases.

    • @Thelango99
      @Thelango99 Před 3 lety +3

      @YourFriendlyGoth There are worse places to be on this planet I am sure.

    • @somemaycallthisjunkmeicall133
      @somemaycallthisjunkmeicall133 Před 3 lety +1

      if this applied today i’d own a several nebulas across intergalactic space

    • @Thelango99
      @Thelango99 Před 3 lety +1

      @@somemaycallthisjunkmeicall133 But that would be great though.

    • @hamdoggius
      @hamdoggius Před 3 lety +3

      @@Thelango99 I'd imagine the alien species living in those nebula might take issue with your land grab.

  • @darter9000
    @darter9000 Před 3 lety +35

    Flat earther: It’s not outer space until you can see both Australia and Canada at the same time.

    • @goprojoe7449
      @goprojoe7449 Před 3 lety +4

      nobody believes in flat earth its made to make people who question authority look crazy

    • @dh1380
      @dh1380 Před 3 lety +6

      @FVCK Y0VTVB3 lol

    • @GradeEhCanadian
      @GradeEhCanadian Před 3 lety +7

      @@goprojoe7449 there is whole group of retarded people who do believe it lol

    • @ajstevens1652
      @ajstevens1652 Před 3 lety +6

      @@goprojoe7449 BS. These people exist and it has nothing to do with authority; its a matter of being proudly ignorant.

    • @llperlrll
      @llperlrll Před 3 lety

      @@GradeEhCanadian Bet there's a bigger group of people who would rather be called "retarded" (what a flat-earth-stupid word to be using in 2021), than being compared to flatearthers. ... Get educated ya simp ... it wouldn't kill ya... but might make you slightly less prejudiced...

  • @jermainekngdom3154
    @jermainekngdom3154 Před 3 lety +11

    2 things
    1. I'm happy we are beyond space crafts exploding at launce
    2. Flat earthers and hollow earthers got it easy. We have to deal with real world physics to define reality. While they have to deal with fiction concepts like ice boarders.

    • @shalizzle793
      @shalizzle793 Před 3 lety +1

      I thought your comment started with “I’m happy about space crafts exploding at launch” and thought shit was about to get spicy

    • @jermainekngdom3154
      @jermainekngdom3154 Před 3 lety

      @Seregiel they believe the edge of the world is surrounded be a ice barrier or a sort. That's why water don't fall off.

    • @theenzoferrari458
      @theenzoferrari458 Před 3 lety

      I'm glad that I passed English class. Launch and border. Flatearther. What else should I go on. But anyways don't forget these dumbass flatearthers also believe in lizard people.

    • @jamesnash3922
      @jamesnash3922 Před 3 lety

      @@theenzoferrari458 , some do yes. Some believe that if any aliens exist that they are actually demons. Some say that space doesn't even exist at all. I've also heard some say that there are no other planets, and that they are just lights in the sky, but I don't know how widespread that belief is. Most of them believe that there is a dome above the earth that stops our atmosphere from being sucked into space, and also makes it impossible for us to get to space. They don't really understand pressure gradient, or how vacuums work for that matter. I have literally heard some flatearthers trying to explain a complete vaccum by using an actual vacuum cleaner hahaha. Let's just say they have no idea when it comes to actual physics or how reality functions hahaha. I mean, I'm at a loss half the time too, but atleast I don't pretend to know better than the scientists actually studying this stuff.

    • @Markle2k
      @Markle2k Před 3 lety

      @@jamesnash3922 It gets really complicated when you have all that evidence to explain away. Gravity is another thing that doesn't exist, but somehow buoyancy does?

  • @jamesslick4790
    @jamesslick4790 Před 3 lety +6

    "Space Lawyer" is a good name for a band.

  • @rougeneon1997
    @rougeneon1997 Před 3 lety +3

    "Quit trying to make Magic Spoon happen. Its not going to happen" lol

  • @GuntherRommel
    @GuntherRommel Před 3 lety +28

    Today I learned that Simon really really really does love Magic Spoon.

    • @Cman04092
      @Cman04092 Před 3 lety +5

      Today i found out is magic spoon is expensive.

    • @zulimi
      @zulimi Před 3 lety +3

      Go to Business Blaze. April 2021, sooo much talk on peanut butter magic spoon.

    • @Zerzuze
      @Zerzuze Před 3 lety +2

      He took so long talking about magic spoon I lost interest in the video. I guess I learned about magic spoon...... Apparently that's what his video is about I'll move on now.

    • @Zerzuze
      @Zerzuze Před 3 lety +1

      And yes I really stopped watching after he finished his magic spoon promo and picked a better video.

    • @cavemanlovesmoke4394
      @cavemanlovesmoke4394 Před 3 lety

      @@Zerzuze uh huh !

  • @keco185
    @keco185 Před 3 lety +15

    Elon musk doesn’t want to keep Branson “out of the astronaut club” he came in person to Branson’s flight and congratulated him

  • @philbarrett3739
    @philbarrett3739 Před 3 lety +49

    'Today I found out' that humanity will never agree on anything 😅

    • @SP_3333
      @SP_3333 Před 3 lety

      🎯👍

    • @timewave02012
      @timewave02012 Před 3 lety +17

      I disagree

    • @mokeish
      @mokeish Před 3 lety +1

      @@timewave02012 Good Form

    • @mainlyglitches
      @mainlyglitches Před 3 lety +1

      @@timewave02012 aww I wanted to say that. I guess I have to disagree with your disagreement at this point.

    • @Luci-rv1hl
      @Luci-rv1hl Před 3 lety

      Disagree to agree?

  • @comradecat3678
    @comradecat3678 Před 3 lety +23

    The "Karmen line" not to be confused with the "Karen line" which is the weird part in their hair.

  • @AndrewSmoot
    @AndrewSmoot Před 3 lety +34

    That is one magnificent Soup Catcher you've got there, Simon!

    • @GradeEhCanadian
      @GradeEhCanadian Před 3 lety +1

      Soup catcher lol 😆

    • @simonpowell2014
      @simonpowell2014 Před 3 lety +7

      Cereal catcher

    • @terryarmbruster9719
      @terryarmbruster9719 Před 3 lety +1

      All missing socks can be found in there if you dare enter. Beware of the fauna. Smells like rotting turtles. Some bad s goes on in there 😱

    • @terryarmbruster9719
      @terryarmbruster9719 Před 3 lety +1

      Rotting Turtle Soup to be precise.

    • @IrishMike22
      @IrishMike22 Před 3 lety +4

      *strainer; We prefer 'soup strainer' please 😉

  • @q300SBB
    @q300SBB Před 3 lety +4

    Cheers Simon, I never knew the 100km Karman line was defined by a lawyer, and not the man himself.

  • @DesAstora
    @DesAstora Před 3 lety +7

    Not going to lie, I thought this was going to be about where space actually began, ie where the origin of the big bang was

    • @keco185
      @keco185 Před 3 lety

      For that, you need to read the book: A brief history of time by Stephen Hawking

  • @macmcelveen1241
    @macmcelveen1241 Před 3 lety +11

    Anyone else get the Austin powers joke? Bezso rocket was distinctive.

    • @GradeEhCanadian
      @GradeEhCanadian Před 3 lety +2

      Yes when I first saw it my first thought was the scene where they are looking in the sky/ radar at the giant dick lol

    • @wwoods66
      @wwoods66 Před 3 lety

      "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." -- Sigmund Freud

    • @Markle2k
      @Markle2k Před 3 lety

      @@wwoods66 And sometimes rockets look like big wangs.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 Před 3 lety

      @@Markle2k the laws of thermodynamics and aerodynamics do tend to limit design choices somewhat. That said Jeff's rocket 100% looks like a dick.

  • @fernandor3854
    @fernandor3854 Před 3 lety +7

    10:51 I loved this man's acting as the whacky Area 51 scientist in Independence Day

    • @MandleRoss
      @MandleRoss Před 3 lety +2

      Ohhhh, you are about to get comment-spammed so hard by Trekkies.

    • @CFG-eb3my
      @CFG-eb3my Před 3 lety +3

      Brent Spiner - Data

  • @marksusskind1260
    @marksusskind1260 Před 3 lety +2

    It's hard to bargle nawdle zouss with all these cereal puffs in my mouth.

  • @djopdam199
    @djopdam199 Před 3 lety +4

    Outer space begins @ the heliopause,where the solar particles collide with interstellar ones. In that definition not even a handful of spacecraft reached outer space

    • @ckl9390
      @ckl9390 Před 2 lety

      I thought that was "interstellar space" in that it's the space between the meaningful influence of neighbouring solar systems.

  • @SuperKamiGuruu
    @SuperKamiGuruu Před 3 lety +21

    Where the gravitational pull of the celestial body ends.
    Thank you, Tyson.

    • @ethelredhardrede1838
      @ethelredhardrede1838 Před 3 lety +14

      That would be an infinite distance so that is right out.

    • @dwaynelangerhr6985
      @dwaynelangerhr6985 Před 3 lety +1

      So you mean that it would be past the Moons orbit?

    • @Ass_of_Amalek
      @Ass_of_Amalek Před 3 lety

      Dwayne Langerhr what

    • @ThatBoomerDude56
      @ThatBoomerDude56 Před 3 lety +5

      @@Ass_of_Amalek There is no end to the gravitational pull of any celestial body. Gravitational influence is infinite.

    • @ThePrufessa
      @ThePrufessa Před 3 lety +3

      @@ethelredhardrede1838 quantum physically speaking yes but generally speaking there is a line of demarcation where you can say this celestial object is no longer influencing the movement of this celestial object vice versa.

  • @TheRealLeesyKate
    @TheRealLeesyKate Před 3 lety +5

    Every time I see a Magic Spoon sponsorship spot on a Simon Channel my heart weeps a little. One day soon my sweet keto cereal will come to Australia. One day.
    Edited to add: I wonder if it would make more sense to describe the requirements of the definition of the edge of space and monitor the way it shifts rather than having a fixed and therefore regularly inaccurate fancy space edge line.

  • @marktuggle5609
    @marktuggle5609 Před 3 lety +1

    I say the edge if space should be defined by launching a sphere around the earth and if it can maintain 10 orbits or more without assistance, its space

  • @rjstewart
    @rjstewart Před 3 lety +14

    Being that I am the centre of the universe, you could have just asked me.

    • @garcybarcy9337
      @garcybarcy9337 Před 3 lety

      🤣👍

    • @Barry7777777
      @Barry7777777 Před 3 lety +1

      Better you than someone who would have typed "could of" instead of "could have".

    • @deathbydeviceable
      @deathbydeviceable Před 3 lety

      Well, you're not entirely wrong. Everyone is born with their own center of gravity, a complete calm before the storm we call life

  • @hardrock7634
    @hardrock7634 Před 3 lety +2

    Outer space begins where it ends... ....I know... I just blew my own mind ... I need to lay down now

  • @BaronessErsatz
    @BaronessErsatz Před 3 lety

    I'm showing this to my housemate, who has Asperger's. He really appreciates your delivery.
    That's why you're on the television A LOT here!

  • @peterolsson1470
    @peterolsson1470 Před 3 lety +3

    When do we stop using altitude and start using distance?

    • @theenzoferrari458
      @theenzoferrari458 Před 3 lety

      When you jump in the air. Lmao. I can jump at least 1.5 feet into the air.

    • @keco185
      @keco185 Před 3 lety

      Altitude is a distance. It’s the distance to sea level (ASL)

    • @peterolsson1470
      @peterolsson1470 Před 3 lety

      @@keco185 I was thinking when we start using distance from earth. I mean we say what altitude satellites are at and what the distance is to the Moon.

  • @theejectionsite1038
    @theejectionsite1038 Před 3 lety

    I recently was in a thread on FB about this where several people said 'No Reentry, No Space' as their argument about the billionaires. I pointed out that these flights were at sub-orbital velocities and technically (depending on which definition) they were in space, and were indeed reentering, however both vehicles topped out at about Mach 3.5 - 4.0 and their reentry speeds were similar, meaning that they never reached a speed at which the air was ionizing around them and causing a glow in the visible spectrum.

  • @mypetgiraffe4236
    @mypetgiraffe4236 Před 3 lety +3

    I feel like I'm back in 3rd grade on the playground watching the 3 richest and most popular kids attempting to smack each other or poker one another's eyes out with a teacher stuck in the middle keeping them all apart.

    • @mgjk
      @mgjk Před 3 lety

      ... except Bezos isn't popular, so who cares if he's right? Wally was cool though. Best thing Bezos ever did.

    • @somethinglikethat2176
      @somethinglikethat2176 Před 3 lety +1

      Branson and Musk are popular but Bezos doesn't have too many fans.

  • @gilsinan
    @gilsinan Před 3 lety +3

    Since watching Carl I've always thought of "Outer Space" as, at the very least, the outer Solar System, and more comfortably as starting at interstellar space. Timely debate on "near-Earth outer space" but the term for me has a whiff of a 1950s view of the Cosmos. Since the Pioneers, Voyagers, and New Horizons, "outer" is vastly farther away for us.

    • @Sanquinity
      @Sanquinity Před 3 lety

      Here's a good one for you then. How do we define where our solar system actually stops and "outer space" starts? Because we're not clear on that one either. :p

  • @Waterdust2000
    @Waterdust2000 Před 3 lety

    Magic Spoon.. the only ad I can ever remember on any channel as being an acceptable live ad. I still wanna try this stuff an I have no idea why I haven't yet.. Good job with this ad, you got very lucky.

  • @dannydaw59
    @dannydaw59 Před 3 lety +1

    The Blue Origins ride looks like the more thrilling of the 2. Branson should have gotten his shit working years ago but kept stalling. Now he's got a competitor to deal with and won't be able to charge as much.

    • @keco185
      @keco185 Před 3 lety

      They both have their benefits and drawbacks. Not that I plan on doing either unless I win the lottery

  • @theautomaticfiend
    @theautomaticfiend Před 3 lety +2

    I love how TIFO now uses business blaze thumbnails lol

  • @Coolkrieger3
    @Coolkrieger3 Před 3 lety +5

    These flights are about space flight being run by the private sector. I am for anything that reduces government.

    • @katajha831
      @katajha831 Před 3 lety

      If they paid their taxes Id be fine with it. They want to waste money measuring their peni' fine with me. What this told me is theirs are so small they cant find them.

  • @carlosfbarajas7755
    @carlosfbarajas7755 Před 3 lety +1

    There is a better way to define this frontier. Simple just measure the density of atoms per square meter in deep space, and then compare at what altitude the density of atoms aligns with deep space.

  • @ericclaptonsrobotpilot7276

    No matter where your own personal Kármán line is I think we can all agree that these billionaires are all Bond villains.

    • @keco185
      @keco185 Před 3 lety

      Who knows, one might secretly be Batman

  • @Barry7777777
    @Barry7777777 Před 3 lety +1

    Here's my take: Our atmosphere doesn't negate the fact that Earth, and everything in and on it, resides in space. It's all just "space" - nothing really inner or outer about it. Bodies with atmospheres exist all over the universe in what we call "outer space", and Earth is just another body with an atmosphere. Outer space is right here, gravity and all.

    • @JimmyDShea
      @JimmyDShea Před 3 lety

      Mannnnnn, I’ve been saying this. It’s like imagining standing on the moon and you’d realize you’re standing in space as there is no atmosphere. We are standing in space that happens to be seasoned in molecules

    • @keco185
      @keco185 Před 3 lety +2

      People class classifications. All you’re doing is changing the name. Then the argument would be “what counts as being outside the atmosphere”

  • @ckl9390
    @ckl9390 Před 2 lety

    By the time one is using infinite wingspans I think we can do away with worrying about if the vehicle's material would burn up or not. As an arbitrary measure, I like the 100km mark, especially as it lands neatly between the two other disputed altitudes. These being the original relevant orbital speed calculations which took burn up into account (~80km), and the altitude which a descending body at speed (the shuttle) can use aeronautical controls because of the atmosphere being compressed below it (~120km). This also takes into account that all of these measurements fluctuates widely depending on solar wind conditions, so +/- 20km may be the most precise we can get while maintining a legal boundary that doesn't change daily. Sort of how the tide being in or out at that moment doesn't affect a country's nautical boundaries.

  • @Riyokintyu
    @Riyokintyu Před 3 lety +2

    That cereal at the beginning is almost 10 dollars a 7 oz box. That's absurd. Who pays that much for a small box of cereal?

    • @johnbagley5341
      @johnbagley5341 Před 3 lety

      Probably not Simon.

    • @dingo137
      @dingo137 Před 3 lety +1

      7oz = 200ish grams for the rest of us. No wonder they can afford to sponsor youtubers - that's over 20 times what I pay for cereals.

  • @canaan5337
    @canaan5337 Před 3 lety +1

    Personally to save myself a whole lot of confusion I decided my personal definition for where outerspace begins is where weather balloons stop.

  • @wendychavez5348
    @wendychavez5348 Před 3 lety

    I was semi- aware of this flight, since it was initiated less than 20 miles from my home, only it's been a very difficult summer so I really didn't think about it. We've known for a long time that the first civilians in space would be billionaires, and if they're willing to take the risk I don't have a problem with them spending their money to do it. Sure, there are societal problems that would be much more practical uses of said money, but a) those problems are much too complex to be solved so easily, and b) practicality is not always the primary factor when anyone chooses how to spend money. Thank you for helping me learn more than I ever knew about this important event!

  • @chriswright3216
    @chriswright3216 Před 2 lety

    I would have never guessed the argument for the edge of space is so in-depth I love nerds y'all are amazing

  • @notleefy9837
    @notleefy9837 Před 3 lety

    Came here from a Halo recap and when I read the title, my immediate thought was "OMG they found the oldest energy signature is the observable universe?!"

  • @tonythigpen9415
    @tonythigpen9415 Před 3 lety

    While miles and nautical miles are both used in aviation, nautical miles is only used as a distance, not a height. Aviation heights are zero to 12,000 feet with anything above 12,000 feet being references as 'flight-level', which is actually 'hundreds of feet based on the standard pressure of 29.92inHg or 1013.25 hPa.'

  • @epowell4211
    @epowell4211 Před 3 lety +2

    All the hooplah about billionaires spending their money on space exploration - people arguing that the money should be spent on charity, fought with the number of people employed by the projects - and I never once thought about the natural resources expended. That right there is the real issue. Some say, "it's their money, they can spend it how they like", but if you put it in terms that touched them, say, "if they bought all the cows in America and destroyed them, would you be okay with that?" I realize they aren't using all the metals and fuels available, nor burning away all the ozone or whatever, but people just don't get it. There was so much anger at people buying up toilet paper and masks at the beginning of the pandemic, where was the "it's their money they can spend it how they want" then?

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Před 3 lety

      If they want to buy up all the cows and kill them, it's okay. Same with toilet paper. Buy up all the toilet paper and wipe up the dead cow juice.

  • @delunamarco
    @delunamarco Před 3 lety

    Can you make a video about how the money moves from bank to bank ?
    Does cash is actually moved from bank to bank ? How direct deposit work ?

  • @ryanleblanc6817
    @ryanleblanc6817 Před 2 lety

    During the Ad read he said “sugar bad, protein good.” That is mostly true. The exact details escape me, but too much protein is bad too. People know about protein poisoning such as rabbit starvation which was a problem with settlers long long ago in which settlers sometimes died if they only had rabbits to eat because rabbit are extremely lean and basically have zero fat on their body so people would get protein poisoning.
    Now for interesting part.
    Well before you die from eating rabbits all day, too much protein shortens your telemeres which are a bio-marker for your biological age. So well before you die of protein poisoning, you could be eating enough protein to accelerate aging and you don’t even know it.
    I personally am conscious of it because I body build and eat a large amount of protein. Im working on making some changes to my die but one thing I already do is one day per week I do not eat any animal protein and not much of an plant that’s high in protein such as beans etc,.

  • @TheEvilCommenter
    @TheEvilCommenter Před 3 lety +4

    Good video 👍

  • @AceSpadeThePikachu
    @AceSpadeThePikachu Před 3 lety +1

    I recall in an episode of Star Talk from a while back that Neil DeGrass Tyson proposed the official boundary of "outer space" shouldn't factor atmosphere at all, since each planet and large object on the solar system and beyond has a very different atmosphere or none at all. For example, where do you draw the line of "outer space" from the surface of the Moon? Or from Jupiter? Instead Neil suggested the one universal factor that can define the boundary of influence for all massive objects is the gravity well. With this system, the boundary of outer space would be defined as the point at which Earth's gravity as no measurable effect on the craft in question...putting said boundary more that double the distance away from the Moon.
    The Moon thus, having a gravity well of its own, would have its own boundary from which either the Earth's gravity or the Sun's exerts a stronger influence on a craft than the Moon's does.
    As much as I appreciate the science of this thought process, that's currently not very useful for the politics mentioned in this video. Perhaps if humanity ever truly becomes an interplanetary species the "gravity well boundary" will be more relevant.

    • @ckl9390
      @ckl9390 Před 2 lety

      Perhaps it would be the equivalent of a planetary "sovereign [air] space", or "sovereign [gravity well] space". Where the gravity well would practically define a bubble where one planetary body's (or planet/moon system's) orbital activities are largely irrelevant to another planetary body and therefore outside another's jurisdiction. This could be relevant where situations of non-unified governments on different planetary bodies arise. Whereas the argument of where to define the edge of the atmosphere is more relevant to different jurisdictions on a planet, as that would govern airspace largely used by aircraft which are still planet bound. Given that planetary bodies are not expected to alter their orbit, here may also need to be a provision for an orbital right of way. So as to "legally" ensure artificial orbital structures or altered orbits of objects aren't allowed to be set on a path which could intersect or cause trouble for an established planetary body and it's "gravity well space". Similar in reasoning to how trains always have right of way.

    • @AceSpadeThePikachu
      @AceSpadeThePikachu Před 2 lety

      @@ckl9390 If we're talking Star Trek.Star Wars-style "interplanetary laws" here, one would first have to assume if humanity lives long enough to colonize multiple,e worlds our politics will remotely resemble what they do now, or that different systems will all agree on the same laws and values.
      The TYPE of planetary body will also matter, since a planet that can be inhabited or terraformed will likely have more strategic value than one that is hostile to all known forms of life.
      Things could get ESPECIALLY complicated if we make first contact with an advanced alien race that thinks in ways literally alien to us and vice-versa, making basic communication much less treaties and inter-species politics extremely complicated.

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 Před 3 lety +10

    There is no line where space starts in reality. There is technically an altitude they use to classify whether you’re in lower or upper orbit, but it’s also technically space one inch off the ground.

    • @shamoblamo9625
      @shamoblamo9625 Před 3 lety

      I think it's the line where our gravity is least powerful

    • @IlluminatiBG
      @IlluminatiBG Před 3 lety +1

      Well, for those that are into fuzzy logic, there is not a line, but a gradient. Of course, lawyers don't want to deal with this, because it is hard to define how you can be for example 22.451% liable to a crime/misdemeanor.

    • @jameshallam3221
      @jameshallam3221 Před 3 lety +1

      @@shamoblamo9625 there’s is no line gravity extends from our planet to the edges of the universe

    • @owenshebbeare2999
      @owenshebbeare2999 Před 3 lety

      "One inch..."? Use metrics! I can convert with no problems, but using cave-man units is just backwards.

  • @Sflhunter
    @Sflhunter Před 3 lety

    I think it’s quite simple if you start falling back down you’re not in space, I think of spaces that point where you’re like oh no oh crap and you start floating away like I hope I can get back lol

  • @cameronjadewallace
    @cameronjadewallace Před 3 lety +1

    SIMON! Thank you for releasing a space video today! It's my birthday and I love space!
    ALSO! MY BUSINESS BLAZE STICKERS CAME TODAY!!! 🥰 Best birthday yet!

  • @VincentGroenewold
    @VincentGroenewold Před 3 lety

    So van Karman actually mentioned altitude AND speed, which is exactly what neither of the billionaire vehicles reached. Orbit, that's space, being able to easily move to another object in the universe. You also don't have to strip the wings from the earlier definition, those were pioneers anyway so I'd even say they deserved them as they were vital for getting into space later on.

  • @johnellis4475
    @johnellis4475 Před 3 lety

    Thanks TODAY I FOUND OUT Crew, on a related topic for this, BURT RUTAN is not really mentioned with Sir Richard's flight. Burt Rutan is the engineer who designed the system they used for exit and entry of the Atmosphere in 2005. Quite an amazing revolution in design. There is a documentary call "Black Sky, a race for space", if you like Engineering and Innovation

  • @ShawnHCorey
    @ShawnHCorey Před 3 lety +1

    Astronaut wings. Now there's an oxymoron.

    • @ehzmia
      @ehzmia Před 3 lety +1

      Should give them a diver badge instead. At a certain point they are more akin to submarines and divers. They even practice spacewalks underwater.

  • @112313
    @112313 Před 3 lety +4

    Today i found out the us military has an unhealthy influence on world affairs.

    • @ss5gogetunks
      @ss5gogetunks Před 3 lety

      You only just found out?

    • @112313
      @112313 Před 3 lety

      i ussualy thought its the stupid politicians......

  • @niravdarmesh5278
    @niravdarmesh5278 Před 3 lety

    Left mustache vertical, right mustache horizontal... I am a member of the Weird Beard Club. Either fix your mustache, or fix your beard to, match.

  • @duhdillpickle2393
    @duhdillpickle2393 Před 3 lety +2

    Video starts at 1:30

  • @garychilds8630
    @garychilds8630 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for bringing potential policy and legal questions into the discussion.

  • @toddnolastname4485
    @toddnolastname4485 Před 3 lety +1

    Well, since escape velocity uses a lot of fuel, I'd say once you no longer have to burn so much fuel to get higher.

    • @jadesoda5305
      @jadesoda5305 Před 3 lety +1

      Unfortunately its not that simple thats how it works in kerbal space program but in real life the atmosphere is a spectrum

    • @keco185
      @keco185 Před 3 lety

      If you hit escape velocity, you’ll be floating off indefinitely. The satellites orbiting earth have never reached escape velocity.

  • @zz-fe8xf
    @zz-fe8xf Před 3 lety +2

    Great job!

  • @Bobbleoff
    @Bobbleoff Před 3 lety +2

    I'm more interested in finding out who actually pays $39 for 4 boxes of magic spoon!!

  • @michaelm9211
    @michaelm9211 Před 3 lety

    The ad at the beginning of the video reminded me of the vita vetavitavegamin ad from I love Lucy 🤣

  • @isaiahhamid1292
    @isaiahhamid1292 Před 3 lety +1

    That spoon be magic

  • @thomask.8282
    @thomask.8282 Před 3 lety

    I just want to have a bowl of Magic Spoon with Simon

  • @NoMoreForeignWars
    @NoMoreForeignWars Před 3 lety +2

    Its wherever a spacecraft can complete an orbit without engaging the engine.

    • @jadesoda5305
      @jadesoda5305 Před 3 lety

      Not quite if you can still be in earth’s atmosphere and be orbit thats why 3:32 was used as the definition because thats where air resistance would overcome the velocity needed to orbit

  • @litlack
    @litlack Před 3 lety

    that dude Mcdell looks like the crazy scientist from independence day.

  • @thiscommentwillbedeletedso5211

    TLDR Billionaires have the world's most expensive and largest pissing contest

  • @TinfoilHatWearer
    @TinfoilHatWearer Před 3 lety

    In my opinion, you aren't in space yet, until you actually need something to thrust yourself back into the atmosphere. Basically, if you are still free falling, and will come back to earth reletively quickly, u ain't in space yet.

  • @Julia-uh4li
    @Julia-uh4li Před 3 lety

    I liked this better than today's Top Tenz List.

  • @cynthiarowley719
    @cynthiarowley719 Před 3 lety

    Let's think like Starfleet. Our Earth space includes our satellite (s), beyond our satellites, is outer space. Where can your earth vehicle fly? When space is infinite, how can we tell the Romulins, to stay on their side of infinity?

  • @terryarmbruster9719
    @terryarmbruster9719 Před 3 lety +1

    The much more serious question philosophically is where does inner space begin? 😎

  • @thecornerkid402
    @thecornerkid402 Před 3 lety

    You're right. That was surprising interesting.

  • @Kirovets7011
    @Kirovets7011 Před 3 lety

    In my opinion, it is not that complicated where space begins.
    I think it is simple: Space begins at an altitude where aircraft with jet engines, can no longer fly, because the air is far to thin to provide 'lift' and the jet engines can no longer function. And that is at an altitude between 30 and 40 kilometers.
    So, i would suggest to set the hight of where space begins, at roughly 50 kilometers.
    Simple!

  • @beefwellington480
    @beefwellington480 Před 3 lety +1

    Did you put Sam in charge of thumbnails? BB invasion is commencing.

  • @gordonfiala2336
    @gordonfiala2336 Před 3 lety

    My grandfather is telling us they used to drive 110miles per hour before seatbelts existed, on Dirt roads...
    GOOGLE!

  • @bartjohnson8139
    @bartjohnson8139 Před 3 lety +1

    I watched this while stoned.
    Good grief! Simon can talk really fast.
    I’m soooo stoned!

  • @garychurch9740
    @garychurch9740 Před 3 lety

    At 22,236 miles up anything in orbit over the equator hovers over one spot on the surface of the Earth, which is Geostationary Earth Orbit (GEO); that is where the telecom satellites are. That should be the definition of "space" and everything under it is "Earth Orbit." Craft orbiting lower can be called "spacecraft" because they can, of course, fly in an eccentric orbit that actually goes higher than GEO. So that, in my view, should be the difference between "Orbital Flight" and Spaceflight."

  • @OldManAzeban
    @OldManAzeban Před 3 lety

    A possible topic should be on the manhole cover that got launched into space from a catastrophic explosion!

  • @pietadon
    @pietadon Před 3 lety

    They should just issue a new award called astronaut satellite as wings can only go so high.

  • @JamesRichardWiley
    @JamesRichardWiley Před 3 lety

    Does outer space have a beginning?
    Does the Cosmos have a beginning?
    How would you determine that?

  • @acb9896
    @acb9896 Před 3 lety +1

    Well, 1st you have Tillman's Crest...

  • @Brett-yq7pj
    @Brett-yq7pj Před 3 lety +1

    Space begins where your mom ends
    Boom roasted

  • @jadesoda5305
    @jadesoda5305 Před 3 lety

    1:33 sounds like my dream 420

  • @TigerXGame
    @TigerXGame Před 3 lety

    The question is not where space begins. The question is where it ends.

  • @TabooBooTV
    @TabooBooTV Před 3 lety

    Simply because I was redirected to an older video and there was an Adobe export glitch: the coffee has been sipped.

  • @tremorsfan
    @tremorsfan Před 3 lety

    And here I thought this video was going to be about the more existential question of the center of the universe.

  • @dwaynelangerhr6985
    @dwaynelangerhr6985 Před 3 lety +1

    I sorry to say but the edge of space is 50 miles so Sir Richard Branson is an Astronaut like it or not.

  • @linsouth6045
    @linsouth6045 Před 3 lety

    Not going to watch the video right now but just passing by to say your beard is looking stupendous!

  • @andrejburger5953
    @andrejburger5953 Před 3 lety

    That beard though. Majestic indeed. Also the moustache.

  • @cifusito
    @cifusito Před 3 lety

    Gotta love your commitment

  • @lancejobs
    @lancejobs Před 3 lety

    He did the equivalent of in Kerbal Space where you dip up till the music changes then have enough time to run a crew report and then you are not in space anymore.

  • @kjs8719
    @kjs8719 Před 3 lety

    I love that I feel like I can trust Simon when he tells me a loves a product. Ever since he told us all about how stupid a game was that kept asking to sponsor him, I feel like if he is advertising a product, he genuinely believes in that product

  • @cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988

    Random fun fact : If the largest star, Stephenson 2-18 replace the sun's place, Ooranoos (screw the jokes) would be the closest planet to the star.

    • @DietMilkLifts
      @DietMilkLifts Před 3 lety

      Wouldn't everything in our system stop orbiting and collapse into the new sun?

    • @ChefofWar33
      @ChefofWar33 Před 3 lety +2

      What planet is that?

    • @GradeEhCanadian
      @GradeEhCanadian Před 3 lety

      @@DietMilkLifts that's not the point lol but yes probably 😅

    • @ChristmasLore
      @ChristmasLore Před 3 lety +2

      Did you by any chance mean Uranus? You can't just choose how to spell words.
      Language as a whole wouldn't work.

    • @cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988
      @cypherbrittainnethegodofsl4988 Před 3 lety

      @@ChristmasLore
      I'm tired of the jokes. It's supposed to be pronounced "Oo Rah noss"

  • @HarryNicNicholas
    @HarryNicNicholas Před 3 lety

    there is a lot of discussion over who exactly qualifies for the term "astronaut" as well.
    and, while we're hear, "empty space" is never empty, for the sake of argument, wherever you go we have the higgs field, so even if atoms are missing, space is not empty, at all.

  • @d.c.8828
    @d.c.8828 Před 3 lety

    "Edge of space"? What are ya, some sort of flat spacer?

  • @usonumabeach300
    @usonumabeach300 Před 3 lety +1

    But at what actual altitude does atmosphere cease to exist? The moon is entirely outside of the atmosphere, so when does it truly end?

    • @michaelahsue5979
      @michaelahsue5979 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure it's hard to say for sure. After all, individual molecules of gas are probably in orbit as far out as the moon. Does that handful of gas still count as the atmosphere? Its not a meaningful amount, but its there

    • @markreynolds1436
      @markreynolds1436 Před 3 lety +1

      0:05:30 - I have no idea how accurate it is, but this seems to be close.

  • @johnstevenson9956
    @johnstevenson9956 Před 3 lety +1

    So the answer is a definitive, "We can't really decide".