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- Threading The Dark Knight as part of a worldwide Roadshow. We were one of 6 or 7 in the world showing all the three on IMAX 15/70mm Film. I have ran these before upon the initial release except for Begins. I never ran Begins on IMAX, only 35mm. #70mmfilm #darkknighttrilogyimax70mm
- Krátké a kreslené filmy
I used to be an Imax projectionist years back and it becomes routine but what used to get the adrenaline running was running two projectors in sync when showing a 3D film in 70mm. Sometimes, you'd get drift resulting in a visual echo, that's if the computer running Windows NT got a glitch and then you'd have to stop the show and resync both projectors AND sound which was a bitch of a job because the clock is running. If the next show runs late as a result, all the others will so sometimes you just had to cancel that show.
The projectors used 7k xenon lamps and you had to wear full protective gear to change the lamp as they were very volatile if still hot. One guy in France lost his face when the lamp exploded, I heard.
To get the projectionist job in an Imax theatre, we preferred no experience to hiring a 35mm projectionist as they could be set with bad habits. It was a great job. Imax film is the only film that runs horizontally through the projector and each frame is momentarily static against the aperture. That hissing sound is the air used to suck the loop of film against the glass when it meets the aperture.
Because Imax film pays out from the centre of the circular hub, the worst nightmare was seeing it spiral down to the floor overnight when you came in in the morning as we used to stick the tail with tape.
Our Imax theatre was a circular dome screen, not that common but it closed about 18 years ago. Great while it lasted, though.
That's really cool. I ran 3D too back in the day, but with the GT projector. Alot of work. Before IMAX I was 35mm projectionist and then I was good friends with the district trainer so he aloud me the opportunity to learn IMAX. The training was very grueling. Lots of practice. Took me a couple of weeks to get it, but a couple of years to master it. Now I am really comfortable with IMAX and very nervous around 35mm because all 35mm is archival and can easily be overlooked because of size when threading up.
Chris Hewitt. What bad habits would 35 mm projectionists have? I was one and it has sure changed since all went digital. The job can now be done by a chimpansee who has been taught to use a smartphone.
Cool story. Three panel Cinerama in the 1950's had a fourth 35 mm projector standing by to show a special reel on the center panel just in case there was a film break in one of three projectors. They would play the special reel to keep the audience entertained while they fixed the problem.
That is crazy how big the reels are
@Mauler Tiberium Aren't you a bag full of positivity?
Mauler Tiberium idiots are usually larger than 70mm.
@Mauler Tiberium What a beautiful ray of sun shine you are.
@Mauler Tiberium Yes everyone in the entire world is familliar with film...
@Mauler Tiberium Take the stick out of your ass
Who in the world laid awake all nite dreaming up this system??? Awsome👏👏👏
I am sitting here thinking the same thing; this is glorious to behold!
Certainly impressive, but just from a purely factual point of view - this system design is built upon all the work done by many different individuals designing film movie cameras since the concept was initially conceived over a hundred years ago. So many different individuals would have contributed the incremental developments along the way with their film movie camera designs and i would say this is just a combination of all of those individuals' work but in a larger format.
@@terencem9962 Built on the shoulders of giants...
The only real genius part of it is the rolling loop film transport mechanism in the projector. That's specific to IMAX. Everything else is basically the same as what's used for 35mm, just scaled way up. This model shows how the rolling loop system works: czcams.com/video/2-0UfkV96ZA/video.html
Holy shit! They still do screening of Dark knight trilogy?????? I am living in the wrong place.
It was a special trilogy event that showed all 3 in order. Happened a few months ago. I saw it in indianapolis
Man, i wish it happened around me. I would have loved to go to them as the dark knight trilogy's are my favorite
@@crimsonixi it's online
@@chriswright8074 its not the same
@@chriswright8074 Even if you have a 100+ inch screen and a projector at home, it will never measure up to a cinema, let alone IMAX...
I would LOVE to buy one of these imax films. Not anything fun like starwars but just for the fact that I own a 400lbs roll of 70mm film.
I know you can spend ~$10 bucks or even hundreds for a single frame clipping of an Imax movie (like interstellar) from Ebay, lol. Not sure where to get ahold of a full reel (not to mention the cost)
Braeden Roesler A full print like Interstellar has a cost of about $80,000
IIRC, a print of Oppenheimer runs about $40k.
Damn what a film. This is the first time I’ve actually seen the size of 70mm film stock and it’s freakin beautiful
The soundtrack of this movie is awesome if there theater is equipped with surround sound. Imax makes all better. What an experience.
IMAX must be preserved. It's an important part of film exhibition history.
I work with Fiber Optics and the casual way this guy handles film terrifies me like my first day handling fiber.
TheKingInBlue I don't think he's actually touching any part of the film that will be used. It looks likes its just extra film material so it can be fed throughout the machine.
@@hotfiyah exactly like that - he said he searching for starting frame - since than movie actually starts ;))) anything else is excessive celluloid for fedding the machine
I know that it is excess film, except where he's putting his hand on the side of the reel. My mind was anticipating a tear in the film because it doesn't seem like he should be able to do what he is doing (though clearly he is).
@5:55 I'll edit everything.
Ha. Betcha won't.
Second video of yours I've seen, and I love it. It's so freaking awesome to see everything that you have to do to prepare for a film.. Just awesome!
Wow, what a beast of a projector! So cool to get to see how things work behind the scenes.
It’s very interesting how this equipment is built to last and be serviced. Amazing engineering. This projection rooms vibe Reminds me of childhood when my uncle would rent movies and we’d watch them on an big old tv. Or when I went to see my first imax movie.
that's beautiful IMAX 15/70! awesome!
I'm trying to get a job as a Projectionist at my imax
and that's how I met Tyler Durden.
When I was in high school we toured a new imax theater for my video class, everything was film. 10 years later, almost no theaters are still film. Considering it looks the same, I understand why. But that man has a talent for something that is a lost art.
my local cinema switched over to all 4k digital projectors. it doesnt look the same. i can see the pixels. it also seems to make them lazier because when the place opened they didnt even have the chromatic abberation calibrated properly and they all looks terrible.
Its not same.film has more dynamic range and rich color than digital
When I went to see Oppenheimer in 70mm, the range of a difference was clear to me. While yes digital is cheaper to run for movie theaters, film is where you find the places that care about their presentation. I watched it in digital and while an impressive film, I thought the practical effects looked awful and nothing special. In 70mm, you saw the entire color to it. The shaded blacks and the bleeding oranges in the nuke was something special.
Film needs to come back. Digital is ruining films and the viewer experience watching them as it's cheaper and lazier to show. They need to get people in there who care about films to get these things right.
That's an incredible amount of work. I saw The Dark Knight Trilogy IMAX roadshow a few months ago at AMC Lowes Lincoln Center 13 in NYC. That experience reminds me why I love going out to the movies. Thank you for this bts video. It's eye opening.
No problem
Yeah Lincoln Square is a nice IMAX. That and New Rochelle and Palisades were the best IMAX theaters to go to back when Dark Knight Sequels came out. I ran Dark Knight IMAX at new Roc in July 08. Was a massive movie.
@@the80sdiehard how massive are we talking? How many reels for a film like The Dark Knight or say a Dunkirk?
@@rhatcher010 for 35mm it was reels from what I remember and IMAX it was like 42 reels I think. So long ago. Dunkirk was a short movie so that was like 32 reels from what I remember
@@the80sdiehard thanks for the info. I'm also curious about how audio works for IMAX. My understanding is that there's playback syncing involved from a separate source. Is that true?
@@rhatcher010 yes. The soundtrack is not on the film. It is provided on a DVD that is loaded separately in to sound system. Projector and audio must always be synced.
This is absolutely phenomenal!
oh man what a treat that would of been to see it all in imax!
Awesome stuff! 👍🏻🎞
absolutely astounding what goes into just setup for an imax film..
A beautiful movie on 70mm. Saw it opening day
WOW....What a video! How you don't have heartburn from the stress of getting everything right. On top of that, that print of the film I know has to be very expensive. I got to see after the performance of "2001: A Space Odyssey" here in San Diego the film platter of some 5 miles.Not only that, your video is totally awesome. Thank you for sharing this to the world.
I love The Dark Knight Trilogy and this is one of the trickiest job to take care of a film strips!
Oh! Okay, now I know what the spool columns do. There are multi tiered platters and they guide to the correct platter. Don't mind me. it takes me a while to figure things out.
Those are some impressive reels
I can’t believe I used to do this job… so much fun.. missing the film days
That was interesting too watch.
Мне повезло родиться, когда у нас в поселке и в соседнем городе уже не было кинотеатров - все развалилось. Фильмов в 35mm формате я уже не успел посмотреть. А IMAX 15/70mm в России просто не существовало, на сколько я знаю. А теперь и этот формат уходит в историю, так что можно сказать кино в действительно хорошем качестве я так и не посмотрел. Хотя в свое время практически запустил киноустановку в нашем ДК, не успел так как забрали служить, а потом - ДК уже был закрыт нафиг. Увлечение кинотехникой осталось с тех пор, а вот вживую посмотреть негде - везде осталась только "цифра". А Вы - в моем понимании счастливый человек - сами получаете позитив от работы и дарите его другим)
imagine how big the Endgame Imax roll must have been...
Indo not think Endgame would have been possible. That movie is too long. Would not have fit on the platters meant for Hollywood features.
@@the80sdiehard Well, maybe a fifteen minutes brake in movie for changing reels, like it was at lord of the rings in my cinema ;)
@@the80sdiehard how many reels was TDK and did you manage to screen on one projector without a break? I'm fascinated by how reel changeover is done in IMAX but I've never seen it. Sadly my local IMAX closed years ago and now it's just digital 4K with the IMAX brand licensed.
@@ChristopherWoods TDK was about 38 to 40 reels if I remember. With IMAX film there is no change over reel to reel as far as I know. It's all built on to a platter system.
Endgame was digital IMAX right?
I was a projectionist for cinemark in 90-91 and in 2011. I’m well trained and experienced. Ive never seen anyone wrap up the film around a finger and then carry it around like that.
Fellow projectionist here.. our jobs are gone now..😢 missing it after watching this.
@@Nothinglefttosay greetings!
Really wonder and amazing which is known clearly now only as many people also do not know on IMAX film projection.
Incredible
when you ask whats wrong, this is her prepping the replays from the past
Awesome 👌👍
I just loved this!
Todd Tuckey! Love your videos
Thank you! Glad you do! I have some videos of our 16mm film booth posted too and also some film shows that project Super 8, 16mm and 35mm
I will check those out for sure thanks
It’s was super cool to see Star Wars Force Awakens in 70mm. It was at Great Lakes Science Center OMNIMAX theatre in Cleveland, Ohio. It’s an experience I will never forget!!
Saw this movie twice in theaters. Both times, it was at the Henry Ford IMAX theater. And it was fucking awesome!
Wish you guys could come down to CA and show the dark knight, as a younger audience member I've only got to catch one showing in my life in 1570 and I'm just killing to see more, and collect film strips
it is my dream to watch the dark knight in an imax theater
that's pretty damn cool
Nobody mentioned him stringing the film across the room? Nobody! Lol
looks like a cool job
I`d be scared to death if I had to thread that huge machine! Scared I would have part of the film twisted backwards somewhere with all the turns and such. lol
I saw all 3 that day at the maritime aquarium !
would of been amazing!
Starts up like my lawnmower!
Crazy how loud that thing is.
Awesome
Imagine being like:
Hey boss think I tore it just a little bit. Yea right kinda in the middle of the roll
That's quite neat
While ordinary cinemas have gone from projector to BluRay, IMAX said "fuck it! Go big or go home!" and made a projector bigger than my living room.
I was at the IMAX AMC San Francisco it was amazing forgotten what 15/70 film looked like. I live in Merced ca i go there once or twice year. Laser IMAX looks amazing on the big screen i seen star wars the Rise of skywalker it looked amazing and the sound was like a rock concert best IMAX in ca.
Do you have a video of you running a digital imax movie? I'm curious to know your opinions on the digital imax and also laser imax and which one you prefer.
digital imax is literally just pressing play
@@drtaru what a shame smh.. it's too bad more movies aren't filmed in 65mm
heathen!
fwdfdfsa111133 It’s too expensive. That’s why film is dying.
Hey Yves! really cool video here. I'm filming a 35mm threading video for the Dark Knight in 2 days and it was really cool seeing this being threaded on 1570!
Cheers, have a great day!
Thanks. Excited to see the 35mm video you see making. I remember also threading in 35mm that too. I still have the Projectionist letter that came with each print. And 35mm trailers of course
@@the80sdiehard Very cool that you still own the trailers! A wonderful piece of history you have there!
I'll be sure to let you know when the video is posted 👍
Have a great day, Yves!
@@ClarkTeddles And I have sections of imax film too.
Yes let me know
@@the80sdiehard Very cool! 1570 imax film is unreal!
I also have some standard 70mm threading videos on my channel. Due to the imax here in sydney being under construction (should be opening next year). Its a shame there wont be any 1570 film projection for the supposed "Biggest screen in the world". Perhaps Nolan might convince the Sydney Imax to put their film equipment back in...
How do you get the projectionist gig? do you have to be a certified projection operator?
Is a mistery
I wish i was there.. im a total nerd and watching this is almost better than the movie.. almost :)
3 films, 3 nights, seeing trilogy in 15/70 this weekend 🤘
Planning for Dune 2020. Denis Villeneuve mentioned he would like to screen in IMAX and 3D. Closest location for me is Regal New Roc. If he doesn't shoot the entire film in IMAX, but still screens it in IMAX will we get that jarring experience when shots go from 35mm widescreen to full screen. Even if some scenes are shot with an IMAX camera, what venue would you recommend. Not in any way an expert, so if I have my terminology wrong, please don't be afraid to correct me.
I use to work at New Roc. I was one of the IMAX Projectionists there from 07 to 2014. I ran film there consistently until 2011. We went digital at that time so i only ran Nolan features on Film. I am not sure about Dune, but i imagine it will be shot with IMAX 3D Digital. The IMAX Digital is almost like IMAX 15/70MM, Digital IMAX does look great, but i still prefer the film because it feels and looks more alive. Nolan is the only one who does the film and 3D Film would be super expensive to set up in IMAX
@@the80sdiehard Awesome, thanks for your expert advice. Dont want to shell out the extra bucks for a sub par experience.
@@Jangel0302 I encourage you very much to go see any IMAX show. weather it is in digital, film or just a large screen conversion. Nothing is sub par. Embrace all formats.
How is the film moved to the projector room? The storehouse must be huge and the reels look too heavy for a single person to lift. Are they moved by mechanical means, forklift, or threaded through a chute to the projector room?
The film is built onsite from separate reels into one big one when it's delivered new, as to how they transport it afterwards as this film in the video is archival I haven't a clue.
Oh man what an assembly all the way from the corner and from inside out twisting and turning and twisting again. How the hell do you get the film back to the reel like it was there. Thing I don't understand is how the audio is synced since it seems to come from completely different and much newer system?
An incredible film, even when not seen in IMAX.
Why is the machine as wide as the room?
Enjoyed your video, of all the comments no one brought up loose clothing or you hanging badge. That is the scary part for me as I had to shut down a projector and hold on to a guy at the same time because he got his neck tie stuck when he was not paying attention.
The musclecar of projectors.
People were watching Trilogy on IMAX 70mm they are just LUCKY!
Where did you get that dunkirk shirt? It looks amazing
I always thought all IMAX are digital for some reason.
Hell, it's almost 2020, everything ought to be digital and wireless.
I'm just glad there's still film rolling around.
IMAX started going digital on a large scale starting in 2009, 2011 you saw the already film IMAX theaters convert to digital and 2015 it went digital on a full global scale. There are only a handful of film IMAX theaters left, but all are museums or aquariums.after the digital switch, Nolan has been shooting, distributing and exhibiting his movies on as many IMAX film available theaters. The more films he has made in post digital have decreased the amount of theaters that will run film.
So far, IMAX is a film format only. IMAX film has a resolution of about 12K-18K, and digital needs to match that or at least get close (and by close, I mean 8K minimum) to truly be considered IMAX. So far, cinema projection doesn't go above 4K, so there is no such thing as digital IMAX yet. Any theater bearing the IMAX name and using digital projection is a scam, commonly known as LIEmax.
Wow... I had no idea how big these reels are.
What's the average weight of one of these ... and how are they shipped, loaded and moved around the projection booth?
500-800 pounds, and they're moved with small forklifts, similar to pallet jacks.
I'd love to see just how these reels are produced. Like i understand you shoot on film etc when you can on set (I'd imagine) but how do they expose the films with all the added CGI???
Also, stay broke shoot film!
Films shot to IMAX film in camera need scanning, a digital intermediate making, CGI adding then a print made from that. I'd love to see an IMAX print being made, even though I know it's fundamentally the same as any other film print.
Sadly many films in 4K don't have 4K-native DIs or 4K CGI, they're upscaled with film grain sometimes added. A few Blu-ray review sites have details of the resolutions of intermediates and final prints. I'd hope films intended for IMAX have suitably high resolution CGI resolutions.
What theater are you at would love to see a film there
The Maritime Aquarium in Norwalk, CT
Hi! Is there any list of this rare commercial cinemas with analog IMAX projectors that are still showing actual movies like the new James Bond od the new AVATAR movie next year? I'd love to visit one of those!
I do not know but I am assuming none. There are commercial theaters that do run IMAX film for Nolan movies but for anything else now days it's all digital.
@@the80sdiehard Well, if this is true, I really regret this because there are several movies shot partially or entirely with IMAX cameras on 70mm film, not just Nolan films. I really can not imagine that any digital media data rate can transport the imense amount of an IMAX film. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IMAX_films
@@marekriebmann1495 ita strange. They shot plenty of big films with IMAX 70mm but it's always very little amount in those films. In the past few years some of them have had actual Film releases, but very small. Nolan is the only one to get serious pull and have in his contract up to 50 plus Film Sites for his stuff. It is super expensive to maintain and hire people to run it. Let alone shooting, developing and distribute it. The only IMAX film releases that IMAX will hire and contract for are always Nolan.
I'm kind of disappointed that the video was not recorded using film.
Yeah, CZcams should have a home projection service where they come to your place and project the videos you want to watch.
When the guy turns the lights off to start..I was kinda hoping the camera guy would have trip an fell into the film roll
is this the definition of convoluted
Most of the what makes it convoluted it is the machine trying to give the right amount of tension to the reel.
Just ordering the camera guy around lol.
Where does the audio track come from? Is it on the film, or separate?
It's separate synchronized with the film. Thats why it's so important to have the start frame i guess
Doug's Welding & Fabrication I’ve heard that’s imbedded onto the film strip on the outer side. A person who run a projection told me. If you google sound on film reel, you’ll be able to see a picture of it.
@@rocomedyisawesome with IMAX the case is different. Since it's a 70mm reel, there is no space for the sound. So you have a separate audio track running that has to be synced with the film.
Doug's Welding & Fabrication. Sound track is on dvd.
wow
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The Real IMAX
Can you buy these reels. Even 35mm?
I saw that the IMAX print of the force awakens was 9 miles long I wonder how long the dark nights films were
Probably around the same. Give or take.
One minute of IMAX film is 330.7 feet. Should be pretty easy to figure out from there.
The analog form.
Now is with digital devices.
OMG.enormous and Big reels
Chemical process to digital.
And end.
how do you sync the audio and vidio or minior delay is not regarded?
Projector and DTAC communicate with each other at start frame of 00:59:52:00
Forgive the ignorance, but is the whole movie on that one giant reel?
Do you get finger prints on the film touching it without gloves ?
Merlin he does but all he touches is film without frames so it doesn’t matter
how did you get into this profession?
How many cans did that movie break down to
Ok how about a video of bringing the film in and placing it on that spool table.
It not that bad, a good condition quality build up table does most of the work. I'm curious if he has ever brain wrapped or thrown a imax print before. That is where it gets interesting, it separates the pro from the rest. I enjoyed projection work, too bad these jobs are almost gone.
I would like to see how big the roll of film is of lord of the rings XD
Brianbribri 007 LOTR would definitely break IMAX if it was shot on film as it is longer than Interstellar and IMAX had to develop special platters that weighed 600 pounds loaded. Normal Interstellar credits faded in and out however because the platters were fully loaded, IMAX changed the credits to roll and not fade in and out. If an Interstellar print ran $80K than an LOTR would neighborhood around $90K I’d imagine.
lol, sounds like a lawn mower running!
Sounds like my lawn mower.
daaaamn imagine endgame rolls big
How much did that platter weigh with all that film on there? Estimated guess.
About 500 pounds
How can I contact you, man? I'd love to purchase some IMAX film cells no longer in use.
I unfortunately do not sell that stuff. I just run the movie. Sorry.
there's a ton on ebay
@@PplsChampion Nope. Learn to read dude.
@@jeffwads www.ebay.com/b/Film-Cells/67895/bn_2312142
Plug a thumbdrive into my tv..done!
Asi de grande son esos rollos ?
Let's see the sound system
Camera guy accidentally backs up into film and it flies off the reel. 10 miles of film dumps onto the floor... Ahhhhhh!😖
when?
like if the people allowed in that room are more than experienced, certified, qualified, monitored, etc..
ud probably be arrested
Woody 5326 you’d also have an $70K print wasted and a lot of tickets to refund.
@@mrodriguez4829 Chuckle, yeah that too. And a HUGE mess to clean up.
Imagine interstellar on imax 70mm... Fck, this is cool job to do... Man - we demand more videos like that, maybe shot it on 8mm? :D Nah, that will be too much, gopro is totally suitable. But if you got 8mm from your grandpa...
I love that on 3D 4k imax 120fps 👌
@@michealnguyen7486 Watching it right now in 1080p - still glorious piece of masterpiece in Nolan design ;)