Lun Grapid 700 CARBON Gravel Wheels // Unbox & Setup
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- čas přidán 17. 09. 2022
- Unboxing with weights and measurements, and setting up the Lun Grapid 700 carbon gravel wheelset.
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Freehub sound "nice and obnoxious"... I couldn't agree more! Silence is golden!!! Thanks!
Great for alerting zombie walkers who haven't heard my bell haha otherwise they're too loud
I have a set of grapids and they have the loudest freehub I've ever heard. If I'm riding with someone I can't freewheel and talk at the same time because the hub drowns our voices out
😆 they aren’t quiet. You can mute the sound a bit by lightly greasing the pawls.
Nice, another review that I was trying to look for.
Thanks Nolan! We'll have to buy one of those Topeak bumps to test out. We have a random selection of 7-8 different pumps that we try things on, and they all worked fine with the Grapid's valve length. We'll definitely look into it though, because we know worst nightmare is being at the side of the road and finding out the valve is too short! P.S: I don't dare to show Tom (our community manager) this video. He's anti-tubeless and this is just fuel for his fire. 😆
Oh no! Keep ‘em tubeless ready! Question - to replace a spoke / nipple, do you have to feed a nipple through the valve hole? I’ve seen that on some other wheels. Seems like it could be a challenge
@@TheBikeSauce Will make a video on how to do that soon. But yes, everything goes through the valve hole. We attach a small piece of steel spoke (1-2cm long) and loosely screw it into a nipple, then use a magnet to feed it through to the spoke hole. Once it comes out, unscrew the 1-2cm "stand-in" spoke and screw in the real spoke.
Cool, yea that’s what I figured. I had some carbon hoops a long time ago that were the same way. Cheers!
Tubeless is great. But I just don't like to deal with them. 🤣
Booster canisters are terrible on these too FYI. What booster pump does the manufacture recommend?
I bought the 650b version for may gravel bike. Weak wheelset. After just several use it developed warps on the top edges near the spokes. They replaced the rear wheelset at first but when the front wheelset developed the same warps and so do the replacement, I was told that they cannot replace them anymore. What’s more upsetting is they had me wait for several months!
Right on dude first comment was it funny when you saw my tubeless set up😂
When you are riding along forest path, birds chirping, wind rustles the leaves, the last thing you want is a loud free hub, yours or your group members.
In 2022, I’d argue that all MTBers would disagree 😆. Me? I can go either way.
Funny i had the same issue change the valve and panaracer tyres for contis terra speed and they popped right on i used inner tubes with the panaracer i was never able to make them sit on the rim tubeless but as for the wheels two years now no issues whatsoever i highly recommend the wheels i bling mine out with kogel bearings but truthfully that was just for me to think i had some sort of advantage when i ride with the guys💪
Thanks!
I'd leave the valves in as most presta heads are designed to get a purchase of that extra lil thread piece.
The booster pump will flow slower, but still faster than hand pumping. Seat the beads and let the tire sit dry for a bit to get back some of its shape if freshly unfolded.
Remove the core just to add the sealant.
You remove the
Honestly, I have the winspace grapid and for 749 they are well worth it!
My only issue is that the free hub body comes off really easily. So easily that my freehub body fell off when setting up and I needed to order a replacement. 😆
I had a similar issue sitting a panaracer GK SS tire on the Grapids before. It was the most difficult tubeless setup I have done and the only trick that worked was adding tubeless rim tape (2 or 3 layers)
Yea I had that issue on a different set of rims. The extra layer of tubeless tape pretty much always works in my experience. If it doesn't seat first go, I'll usually go straight to adding a layer of tape. In this video, I wanted to see what it would take to seat them without any tape, but kind of a lot of extra work.
I have Gravelkings on my grapids and the only way I could seat them is to use my hands to force the bead to seat on one side, then use a full size air compressor through the valve stem for the other side. Sealant after the bead is seated or else you're gonna have a bad time. I had G-Ones on before the GKs and they went on like nothing
it should come with 60 or even 80 mm valve for any “aero/deep” section wheels
Honestly, I think it was the short tubeless valve for that deep rim was the main issue. Although I enjoyed seeing your methods to resolve this problem. Panaracer tires are usually a breeze to set up and personally I just use a booster pump on all my set ups with various wheels and tires. I definitely also always mount tires without levers at all cost and use soapy water. Installing a tube first and leaving one side beaded is a good one. I’ll try that on one of my stubborn set ups.
For sure. I think they should supply longer valves. I never use a lever to install a tire either. Had to use a few tricks for this setup though
@@TheBikeSauce another method I use with our hot 🥵 So Cal weather is let my tires lay is the sun and soften up before mounting. This really helps with my thick casing tires.
Nice. Yea I think these gravelkings were tough bc they’ve been sitting in a box for a year with a bunch of dried sealant still on them. New, they were easier to seat
@@TheBikeSauce true, I love Panaracer GK’s for easy set up and just overall one of the best high quality tires available. Just set up the American Classic tires , also really nice.
I am interested in this exact rim with Rene Herse (Compass) 38c tires.
Installing a layer or two of tubeless tape would make them seat even with a regular floor pump without tricks. Also safer because the tire is less likely to come off and fix/pump on the road if needed.
How do you feel these wheels compare to Hunt wheels in the same price point? I’m looking to purchase a set of 700c wheels and am hoping to find a best bang for buck scenario in this price point.
Please make a video showing what your engineering students did with the Winspace gravel bike/frame
I know.. it’s been on my list
Looking forward to the ride review- what’s the price for these btw?
$798 USD in Spet 2022
@@TheBikeSauce I like that about them!
any update on these wheels? thanks!
It’s in the pipeline. Wheels are doing great though.
@@TheBikeSauce good to hear that! thanks for the reply and for your reviews! haven't seen a decent review of the wheels!
Why is it that modern hubs make so much noise? Is that functional or just a "look at me" modification? I ride a 2015 specialized roubaix the rear hub makes no noise whatsoever.
Haha it’s a desirable trait for some. I prefer a slightly quieter hub myself
@@TheBikeSauce beats a bell or "on the left" while sharing a trail/greenway with pedestrians!
Apologies if i missed it but are they Hook or hookless rims
I actually didn’t mention that they’re hooked rims. Standard tires or tubeless tires work fine.
So the valve is not long enough, and not being able to seat with a pressure pump, is not good.
Hopefully the problem with seating the tyre was the tyre.
Need a longer valve then.
I also don’t like, the ‘adventure ready - tubeless ready’ white stickers, it makes the wheels looks cheap and tacky 🤔
Do you think carbon has a lifespan? Most carbon stuff broke for me . I ride 10 to 15 k yearly. About year 4 stuff breaks. So much now I won't use anything carbon. Except the Dura Ace wheels sparingly. I rife mostly gravel way off pavement. Need bulletproof. Hunt Gravel wheels have been great for over a year
Whole can of worms here. There's no published shelf life for carbon, and as far as I know, you can ride them until they are damaged. Manufacturing processes differ from brand to brand, and of course people are paranoid about sudden catastrophic failure as opposed to yielding (metal). Anecdotal reports indicate that there's no reason a well-taken care of set of carbon wheels can't last 10's of thousands of miles or more. It comes down to the level of 'risk' one is willing to take. Personally, I'm much more concerned about my carbon full suspension mtb frame breaking in a hard crash than a set of carbon gravel rims randomly exploding for no reason.
Still testing the future shock delete? I think about it every time I go for a ride lol
Haha. Testing, yes. But also working out logistics and legal stuff. It is a critical part.
@@TheBikeSauce Ah, yes. All the fun stuff. If you ever need anyone else to test out a prototype I'm local! Haha
We may. I’ll keep you posted
If you don't have that power Burst inflation pump you'll never get those tubeless tires to seat and seal, will you?
haha yea, but that's mostly true for any tubeless tire. Only rarely can I set one up with a standard floor pump
I've never needed anything beyond a Lezyne floor pump to seat tires onto rims. Tires were Spec Pathfinders (Sport, Pro, & S-Works), Michelin Power Gravels, and Conti GP5000s (TL and S TR). Rims were DT Swiss G540s, HED Belgium+, and Zipp 303s.
"All the balls fell out"😂
Pawls!! Not balls 😆
If the valves are replaceable, I’d swap in Fillmore Reserve valves. Completely hassle-free for any tubeless setup.
Edit: Lun shows “out of stock” Grapid wheels. No wonder. They’re hella cheap:$798
Wow, disappointing about the valve length.
Out of stock. Lol