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  • Moneyball - That's My Offer: John (Arliss Howard) offers Billy (Brad Pitt) a job as GM of the Boston Red Sox.
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    Billy Beane (Brad Pitt), general manager of the Oakland A's, one day has an epiphany: Baseball's conventional wisdom is all wrong. Faced with a tight budget, Beane must reinvent his team by outsmarting the richer ball clubs. Joining forces with Ivy League graduate Peter Brand (Jonah Hill), Beane prepares to challenge old-school traditions. He recruits bargain-bin players whom the scouts have labeled as flawed, but have game-winning potential. Based on the book by Michael Lewis.
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    Cast: Arliss Howard, Brad Pitt
    Screenwriter: Aaron Sorkin, Steven Zaillian
    Director: Bennett Miller
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  • @sparkymahoney4343
    @sparkymahoney4343 Před 4 lety +3610

    "The first guy through the wall, he always gets bloodied." Spot on.

  • @theevilascotcompany9255
    @theevilascotcompany9255 Před 4 lety +4955

    I like how natural this scene is, like we're just eavesdropping in a real business meeting.

    • @shaunwhelan17
      @shaunwhelan17 Před 4 lety +13

      so true

    • @andrewcassese3283
      @andrewcassese3283 Před 4 lety +71

      Both of the team owners in this movie deliver stand-out performances in a movie packed with great performances.

    • @russellbenson7055
      @russellbenson7055 Před 4 lety +4

      Thomas Well put. I agree.

    • @andrewcassese3283
      @andrewcassese3283 Před 4 lety +59

      @@russellbenson7055 I just dug around and discovered that the A's owner Stephen Schott is played by Robert Kotick who is the CEO of Blizzard Entertainment. No wonder he's so authentic, he's not an actor!

    • @luvlgs1
      @luvlgs1 Před 4 lety +6

      the fact that it's quiet too, you have to lean in to hear what they're saying, ...

  • @strider1589
    @strider1589 Před 4 lety +2085

    Best part is when he slides it to Jonah Hill similarly and he responds "congratulations.....that makes you the highest paid general manager in the history of sports."

    • @dlatua
      @dlatua Před 3 lety +28

      go sports

    • @x808drifter
      @x808drifter Před 2 lety +86

      @@dlatua It sounds weird but there wasn’t really a better way to say it.
      He wasn’t offered the highest GM salary in the MLB or USA professional sports.
      He was literally offered so much money it would have made him the highest paid GM in the world.

    • @sgt.thundercok4704
      @sgt.thundercok4704 Před rokem +12

      And he responds so quickly, which is perfect for his character. That he has 100% locked in his head the highest paid GM salaries across all professional sports. Or at least the few that would typically have the highest GM salaries. MLB, NFL, NBA.

    • @jonathancracolici536
      @jonathancracolici536 Před 7 měsíci

      @@sgt.thundercok4704 I would expect it to be soccer, their yearly budgets are just mental. Pep is paid like $24M/yr. Belichick is only $7.5M/yr

  • @bobosputnik
    @bobosputnik Před 4 lety +2834

    Arliss Howard owns this scene. Props to Brad Pitt for listening and letting a fellow actor deliver the goods. Just great stuff.

    • @JohnBonini
      @JohnBonini Před 4 lety +36

      I agree though I miss not hearing Brad Pitt's earlier line, "Get her a bowling ball for all I care."

    • @mavioz
      @mavioz Před 4 lety +15

      Nice try Arliss

    • @TommyRibs
      @TommyRibs Před 4 lety +4

      He has always been a Gem. For Decades.

    • @zataha3
      @zataha3 Před 4 lety +39

      I mean that how the scene was written I don't think it had anything to do with brad

    • @johnfarella7964
      @johnfarella7964 Před 3 lety +3

      Bingo! Arliss was perfection.

  • @BaldwinVoice
    @BaldwinVoice Před 2 lety +1282

    "For $41 million, you built a playoff team. You lost Damon, Giambi, Isringhausen, Pena...and you won more games without them then you did with them. You won the exact same number of games that the Yankees won, and the Yankees spent $1.4 million per win; you paid $268,000."
    It is truly amazing what Billy pulled off.

    • @biggt0820
      @biggt0820 Před 2 lety +14

      Those numbers don't add up by the way. The 02 A's won 103 games. With a payroll of $41M, that comes out to $398K per win. If they had only paid $268K per win, they'd have ended up with 153 wins or a only had a payroll of $27.6M

    • @xKillZone99
      @xKillZone99 Před 2 lety +12

      they lost in the playoffs to a team with smaller budget than themselves, Billy has had little success as a gm overall and his analytics hurt baseball more than it helped the game.

    • @nicksander8027
      @nicksander8027 Před rokem +112

      @@xKillZone99 So you are one of the dinasaurs

    • @xKillZone99
      @xKillZone99 Před rokem +7

      @@nicksander8027 1. please learn to spell and 2. you assume I'm old cause I remember what actually happened with 2002 A's? lol my God that was embarrassing to read

    • @mikoajtokar5846
      @mikoajtokar5846 Před rokem +53

      @@xKillZone99 Ok boomer

  • @steveclapper5424
    @steveclapper5424 Před 3 lety +801

    This is seriously one of Brad's greatest roles.

    • @theonewhoknocks96
      @theonewhoknocks96 Před 3 lety +16

      2011 was a terrific year for him between this and The Tree of Life. Two of his best and most down-to-earth performances.

    • @d4t4wx
      @d4t4wx Před 2 lety +1

      I think the Pikie roll in lock stock and two smoking barrels was his best.

    • @vanguardguardian5876
      @vanguardguardian5876 Před 2 lety

      He also performed brilliantly in TROY

    • @stevelibby6852
      @stevelibby6852 Před 3 měsíci

      Tall statement. It's very good. It's up there.

  • @pauljuliano6676
    @pauljuliano6676 Před 4 lety +4443

    The deal Henry offered was for 5 years 12.5m which would of made Billy the highest paid GM ever.

    • @calisongbird
      @calisongbird Před 4 lety +223

      Paul Juliano *would’ve

    • @viksaggu9085
      @viksaggu9085 Před 4 lety +49

      Ya the next scene in his office Pete says that

    • @syberdieforlove
      @syberdieforlove Před 4 lety +182

      The correct number is $12.5 million over five years by the way. :) A quick google search will tell you that.

    • @jqyhlmnp
      @jqyhlmnp Před 4 lety +104

      Syber Salvatore ok Amy Schumer

    • @theendlesswanderl8149
      @theendlesswanderl8149 Před 4 lety +13

      you take that and your set for life

  • @cmscms123456
    @cmscms123456 Před 4 lety +2153

    When I die, I want the Oakland A's to be my pallbearers, so they can let me down one last time.

    • @aaronyayger
      @aaronyayger Před 3 lety +187

      @Alex Oh no, he's told a joke thats been told before, what a horrible person! Grow up, dude.

    • @casamir1
      @casamir1 Před 3 lety +6

      LOL

    • @pd9971
      @pd9971 Před 3 lety +1

      There's a new one what's next Knock knock, who's there?

    • @ianschroth6575
      @ianschroth6575 Před 3 lety +9

      Same here, but instead of the A's, for me it would be the Phillies, Flyers, and Eagles. Lol

    • @poshko41
      @poshko41 Před 3 lety +8

      Try being an Indians fan.

  • @johnstjohn1987
    @johnstjohn1987 Před 4 lety +2195

    "You made the playoffs with Starlord at first base."

    • @Mr.Limekiller
      @Mr.Limekiller Před 4 lety +52

      haha that's really funny because that actor was in another role XD sometimes actors play vastly different roles in different movies and using your flawless comedy skills you have pointed this out in a very hilarious and fresh youtube comment haha i hope this astute observation earns you a million likes and you are now my best friend for making this very hilarious joke that no one ever makes in youtube comment sections haha

    • @johnstjohn1987
      @johnstjohn1987 Před 4 lety +60

      @@Mr.Limekiller I thoroughly enjoyed reading this comment my Friend. It really shows how your attempt at humor is about as funny as your huge run on sentence. Whats even more hilarious is how your grammar skills reminds me of my 5 year old.

    • @hskshag00
      @hskshag00 Před 4 lety +22

      Mr. Limekiller you must be a hit at parties

    • @juliorodriguez9789
      @juliorodriguez9789 Před 4 lety +6

      @@adrianb8446 Lol got him.

    • @CVSoprano
      @CVSoprano Před 4 lety +7

      @@adrianb8446 BOOM! HEAD SHOT!

  • @eugkra33
    @eugkra33 Před 3 lety +614

    this movie had so many great, well written scenes. I don't care at all about baseball, but the core of this movie really wasn't about baseball at all.

    • @NickGuy0320
      @NickGuy0320 Před 3 lety +25

      Except it was

    • @evanabbott2737
      @evanabbott2737 Před 3 lety +3

      I need to finally see this movie...I’ve been sidestepping it for years because I also don’t care about baseball..!😁

    • @danielponce774
      @danielponce774 Před 3 lety +2

      Then what could it possibly be about if it wasn’t about baseball lol

    • @austin5977
      @austin5977 Před 3 lety +19

      @@danielponce774 it's more of a movie about business

    • @danielponce774
      @danielponce774 Před 3 lety +2

      @@austin5977 you saw the movie and thought it was about business? Lord lol

  • @tuliocano8468
    @tuliocano8468 Před 3 lety +192

    This movie is a school for managers, not just of a baseball team but all kind of company. is pure gold.

  • @matthewdriscoll8327
    @matthewdriscoll8327 Před 3 lety +520

    In the years after this conversation, the Red Sox went on to win four World Series, and win the division half a dozen times. The A’s have yet to win a playoff series

    • @poppy87
      @poppy87 Před 3 lety +140

      I hate the narrative that the Sox didnt spend money; they spent A LOT of money.

    • @Al-vf5oq
      @Al-vf5oq Před 3 lety +15

      Things are looking up for Billy this year lol

    • @NovemberBaseball
      @NovemberBaseball Před 3 lety +1

      @EaST CoAsT MaCHete 1998, 1999, 2000.

    • @rcslyman8929
      @rcslyman8929 Před 3 lety +110

      @Souligna Savann Exactly this. Oakland was doing it on a budget because they didn't have money to spend. Yes, they paid less money to get the same OBP production in three players as compared to one star player. The rub is that's now three players you have to field to make up for one. And they had other deficiencies, which was why they were able to be gotten on the cheap.
      Boston takes this same approach, they pick up that star player with the impressive OBP that isn't so lacking in other areas, more slots in the roster for a more robust team, and seven open field positions rather than five. Their overall production value is increased as a result, as long as they are making decisions around increasing that value. And, as a side benefit, they get return value from the fans that player draws into the stadium.

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 Před 3 lety +45

      @@rcslyman8929 And, as the book points out, if you end up with really solid players, you can't afford them once their contracts are up. This is why Oakland can't have sustained success with the diamonds in the rough that they do find.

  • @bacflash
    @bacflash Před rokem +59

    Although I don't understand baseball, I keep coming back to this great scene. Such a casual conversation but so much is implied (including a summation & verification of Billy's amazing work with Oakland Athletic that season). Arliss Howard's portrayal of John Henry deserves an award. So riveting and no background music needed.

  • @mg19cal
    @mg19cal Před 4 lety +342

    Amazing how Smalls went from not knowing how to play baseball or KNOWING who the Bambino was, to being the radio announcer for the Dodgers, to OWNING the Red Sox and breaking the Curse of the Bambino. Red Sox fans need to thank Benny the Jet every day

  • @algea2003
    @algea2003 Před 3 lety +811

    Billy leveraged that offer to get 2.5% ownership of the A’s

    • @samuelwoods7832
      @samuelwoods7832 Před 3 lety +6

      Like that was his deal?

    • @regibson23
      @regibson23 Před 3 lety +212

      @Tiber Zeek No way. Always take ownership over salary with an established business.
      There's a reason the As only spent $40M a year on players and didn't want to spend more. They need to stay profitable. And if they're profitable ownership gets paid.

    • @Lacosanostra699
      @Lacosanostra699 Před 3 lety +34

      @Tiber Zeek Considering the teams worth today id say it was the right choice.

    • @foxtrotyankee6131
      @foxtrotyankee6131 Před 3 lety +47

      @Tiber Zeek $1bn, he owns 1% so hes got a $10m stake in the A's

    • @foxtrotyankee6131
      @foxtrotyankee6131 Před 3 lety +24

      @Tiber Zeek bro what are you on about... never said which was the right choice, simply answered someones question about how much the team is worth today...
      Where do I mention a $10m stake is a profit...
      Where do I mention he made the wrong choice...
      Also where tf is the $90m value coming from... at most the FV of that investment in 2003 would be around $40m

  • @ryancrowell9867
    @ryancrowell9867 Před 3 lety +219

    as a Sox fan it was really nice to see John Henry portrayed this way. To be successful in pro sports you really do need someone at the top that has that kind of a philosophy. Boston sports has been lucky to have good ownership these past few decades.

    • @fabri1314
      @fabri1314 Před 2 lety +1

      yep, definitely. im yankee but i can’t deny the way boston have been playing the last years. big props to the organization. yet new york keeps spending more money -like that Stanton mistake- and still can’t make it through playoffs.

    • @DarrenBates
      @DarrenBates Před 2 lety +9

      And Liverpool. English, European, World and Super cup champions.

    • @pappy374
      @pappy374 Před 2 lety +5

      @@DarrenBates Whilst that is true, Henry and FSG are running into a wall with Liverpool over investments in the team.

    • @brianelizardo6375
      @brianelizardo6375 Před 2 lety

      His name was Theo 😂 how easily Red Sox fans forget 87 years 😂

    • @nicolasmartinez795
      @nicolasmartinez795 Před rokem

      i know right, to have that foresight when everyone else is thinking the other direction.

  • @mg19cal
    @mg19cal Před 4 lety +250

    2:24 "My offer is this: nothing."
    Oh wait, wrong movie

    • @wayoutfarout
      @wayoutfarout Před 4 lety +34

      ...not even the price of the licence...which I'd appreciate if you'd personally pay for....

    • @aroshan644
      @aroshan644 Před 4 lety +3

      Don Michael Corleone

    • @Speedy2619
      @Speedy2619 Před 3 lety +1

      You mean miss sloan?

    • @chucknola484
      @chucknola484 Před 3 lety +6

      You Gawd Damn guineas really make me laugh!

    • @dagalfheim7056
      @dagalfheim7056 Před 3 lety +1

      I knew you had the wrong movie cause there were no broken sunglasses in the cup of water

  • @Rez981
    @Rez981 Před 2 lety +96

    “The first guy through the way always gets bloodied. Always. It’s a threat, not just a way of doing business. But in their minds it’s threatening the game, but what it is really threatening their livelihoods and it’s effecting their jobs. It’s threatening the way that they do things. And every time that happens whether it is a government or a way of doing business. Whatever it is, the people holding reigns with hands on the switch go batshit crazy.”

    • @AnnaLVajda
      @AnnaLVajda Před 2 lety +1

      Control freaks they hate change.

    • @whenmullet2674
      @whenmullet2674 Před 2 lety +3

      hey my speakers are broken, could you type out the rest of the dialogue in the scene please?

    • @jimmydean239
      @jimmydean239 Před 2 lety +1

      Wow you typed exactly what the guy said in the movie! GOOD JOB!1🤓

  • @LivinhItUp
    @LivinhItUp Před 3 lety +51

    What's lost about this scene is that this is exactly the kind of thing the A's were going through for years with their players. Bigger teams gutting the smaller ones for their best players. It was happening again with the Red Sox trying to buy out Billy and make him the highest paid GM for their franchise.
    Although there were more factors to why Billy didn't join the Sox in real life, I like that they had this scene and it shows the conflict between "seeing this all the way through" (with the A's) or joining another team through the sheer will of money.

    • @protoman1365
      @protoman1365 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Knowing that in real life that the A’s stripped down the entire team and are now moving to Vegas, it makes the ending depressing. Like Billy’s sacrifice for the sake of loyalty being all for naught.

  • @Diskoboy1974
    @Diskoboy1974 Před 2 lety +51

    Arliss Howard is one of the most sorely underrated actors in the business. I love pretty much everything he's in.

    • @SophiaAphrodite
      @SophiaAphrodite Před 6 měsíci

      One of the few times in the last 5 years someone used underrated correctly.

  • @peterfrank3365
    @peterfrank3365 Před 4 lety +389

    I always particularly like the cinematography in this scene.

    • @ObamaFromKenya
      @ObamaFromKenya Před 4 lety +8

      Peter Frank is that actually in Fenway 🤔

    • @cadenr06
      @cadenr06 Před 4 lety +12

      Barry Obama Probably because it was probably easier to film it in Fenway than fake it

    • @shaunwhelan17
      @shaunwhelan17 Před 4 lety +5

      This movie period was just so well done. It's nuts

    • @JuKeyy7
      @JuKeyy7 Před 3 lety

      cadenr06 Probably probably probably probably

    • @The22Walli
      @The22Walli Před 3 lety +1

      This movie is beautifully shot. Wally Pfister is the cinematographer and Bennet Miller the director, both great

  • @Ryan-wc2cs
    @Ryan-wc2cs Před 3 lety +42

    "...The first guy through the wall, he always gets bloody. Always" Great great great line.

    • @SlideIX
      @SlideIX Před 3 lety +1

      I honestly love that line

  • @garymazeffa
    @garymazeffa Před 3 lety +18

    A beautifully shot and edited scene with a slower and deliberate pace. Softly spoken where you almost need to lean in to listen. Preachy without being preachy. Perfect.

  • @JoRN1222
    @JoRN1222 Před rokem +10

    Need to see Arliss Howard in more movies and TV shows. He is excellent and I've been a fan since Full Metal Jacket

  • @NT-fo3me
    @NT-fo3me Před 4 lety +6

    I GOTTA watch this movie again. Haven't in years and I keep watching clips on YT. Have it on DVD.

  • @jimjimmyjames59
    @jimjimmyjames59 Před 2 lety +17

    Sometimes "star vehicles" short change the story - but Mr. Howard, a known name but not a star name, running this scene with Mr. Pitt, completely comfortable in his own abilities - is a pleasure to watch.
    (Ouch - my grammar and syntax is awful, but you get the idea.)

  • @MattAlbie
    @MattAlbie Před rokem +13

    I love this scene. The disbelief in "you were grateful..." YOU need to be grateful to US?! Look what you accomplished!

  • @tailhookmd2546
    @tailhookmd2546 Před 3 lety +23

    Some scenes are so well acted that you just get lost. You just totally buy in. This is one of those scenes.

  • @Gutenburg100
    @Gutenburg100 Před 3 lety +537

    Basically his speech is exactly what the hedgefund guys are doing right now. Someone found a way to break their game and they are freaking out.

    • @TheHybridlogic
      @TheHybridlogic Před 3 lety +5

      Exactly. Great analogy.

    • @johnford2517
      @johnford2517 Před 3 lety +24

      You have to be truly delusional to think you are getting one over on hedge funds. The arrogance that takes is beyond my ability to imagine.

    • @nationradical
      @nationradical Před 3 lety +4

      How are they not? And besides this shows the cracks of our financial system-the popular outrage over this can’t be discounted

    • @alibertobertolo8954
      @alibertobertolo8954 Před 3 lety

      Yep

    • @Connor8609
      @Connor8609 Před 3 lety +8

      Man, this aged well/

  • @drthegreatbrownie
    @drthegreatbrownie Před 3 lety +21

    That actor has way more emotion than the real John Henry

  • @rickrose5377
    @rickrose5377 Před 2 lety +7

    My father first took me to Wrigley Field when I was 5 years old. To give you an idea of what epoch that was, Ernie Banks was the National League MVP that year. I took care of my mom for the last 7 years of her life. She passed away at the age of 97, and the Cubs had not won a World Series during her lifetime.
    I have a photo on my phone. It's Theo Epstein sitting in Billy Beane's office.

  • @intelltr4563
    @intelltr4563 Před 4 lety +556

    The Red Sox did win 4 World Series titles since. Congrats

    • @alwillk
      @alwillk Před 4 lety +22

      It worked out really well for Boston. Oakland. Not so much. Beane screwed up the 2014 team by trading Cespedes for Lester and traded in 2009 CarGo for Holliday for Brett Wallace was terrible. He also got garbage for Tim Hudson.
      And the Moneyball Draft 2002 He had 7 first round picks and only Nick Swisher and Joe Blanton were any good.

    • @alwillk
      @alwillk Před 4 lety +35

      @warrcc c Yes. In baseball if you want to win consistently you have to spend money. You can fluke a good season here and there like KC in 2015 or Miami in 2003. But, the top teams spend money.

    • @solame4983
      @solame4983 Před 4 lety +47

      @@alwillk Well yeah, Oakland has no money so they have to gamble a lot. And also, all the other teams started playing Moneyball as well so they weren't able to steal undervalued players anymore. And finally, the college draft is hard no matter what, the dataset on high school and college kids is too little and inaccurate to determine anything.

    • @crunch9876
      @crunch9876 Před 4 lety +2

      al d isn’t that higher than average? 2 out of 7 first round picks being any good

    • @alwillk
      @alwillk Před 4 lety +1

      @@crunch9876 No, More first round picks make it to the show. I'd say 70%.

  • @matteowatteo1296
    @matteowatteo1296 Před 3 lety +36

    Love this movie. Well acted and an amazing insight into pro sports. Far more credit should be given to Paul DePodesta for his brilliant thinking and less to Billy Bean for embracing his genius out of economic necessity.

  • @rogerkincaid931
    @rogerkincaid931 Před 4 lety +97

    I love this scene. Great ending.

  • @mykmcgrane
    @mykmcgrane Před 7 měsíci +1

    This speech about changing things for cheaper and better can be applied to so many things today. Damn damn. Bennett Miller really did it man. Great scene.

  • @johnnicolazzo4146
    @johnnicolazzo4146 Před 2 lety +1

    The rainy late November atmosphere plays so well in this scene, it’s perfect for this subdued conversation

  • @eXcommunicate1979
    @eXcommunicate1979 Před 2 lety +17

    The Foley work in this scene is incredible.

    • @geovannomozes7010
      @geovannomozes7010 Před 2 lety

      Agree

    • @sgt.thundercok4704
      @sgt.thundercok4704 Před rokem +1

      Foley wasn't the only union member working this job. Hockstein, Bertelsen and McGraw were there as well. I think Hockstein was running the audio setup, resulting in this solid soundtrack and outstanding sound effects.

  • @smk3390
    @smk3390 Před 4 lety +30

    One of the best explainations of human mentality to change ever.

  • @wingmanalive
    @wingmanalive Před 4 lety +7

    No sport in American history has had more films based off it than baseball. None. I'm not even a baseball fanatic but this one is right up there with The Natural and Major League. Of course there's always Field of Dreams, 42, Bad News Bears, The Final Season, Bull Durham, The Rookie, and so on and so on. This one is just great because it's more current. I actually remember the "run". It was amazing.

    • @jaydenherrera4177
      @jaydenherrera4177 Před 4 lety

      wingmanalive don’t forget The Sandlot!!

    • @kathleenpovey333
      @kathleenpovey333 Před 4 lety

      Don't forget A League of Their Own.

    • @wingmanalive
      @wingmanalive Před 4 lety

      @@kathleenpovey333 Another good one! I knew I was going to forget some/many.

    • @wingmanalive
      @wingmanalive Před 4 lety

      @Daniel Treadwell Please explain. It's based off a true story. What about it you didn't like? I'm from Pittsburgh and live in Philadelphia but even I found this movie entertaining. You have something against the A's? Seriously I want to know.

    • @wingmanalive
      @wingmanalive Před 4 lety

      @Daniel Treadwell Well like I said I'm no fanatic and I certainly never followed the history. About the only time I did follow it was when the Phillies played the Blue Jays for the series in 1993. That was a motley crew! Darren Daulten, John Kruk, Mickey Morandini, Lenny Dykstra, Mitch Williams, ect. They were fun to watch.Then Joe Carter had to.................slap one out lol. Mitch actually owned a bar not far from my girlfriend's house in Pennsauken NJ. He had so many death threats against him he had to stop showing up. That's Philly fans for ya!

  • @Boxscot49
    @Boxscot49 Před 10 dny

    The dialogue in this movie is so perfectly natural. Better than most movies I’ve seen

  • @drfunk1986
    @drfunk1986 Před 4 lety +25

    i like how he puts the offer down

  • @Vaultboy50s
    @Vaultboy50s Před 2 lety +16

    Love this scene! Love John's speech to Billy.

  • @phirephate
    @phirephate Před 10 měsíci

    Love this slow paced scene. That fact that there was a low key thunderstorm in the background makes it even better.

  • @mortichro
    @mortichro Před měsícem +2

    i can imagine John W Henry has this same kind of conversation with Michael Edwards to convince him to come back to Liverpool..

  • @volumeturneddown9600
    @volumeturneddown9600 Před 3 lety +12

    "Why did I take your call? Because when you make me an offer, I'll use it to squeeze more money from the A's. You think I learned nothing from Giambi?"

  • @PRYVTgomerPYLE
    @PRYVTgomerPYLE Před 3 lety +6

    Science really did end the curse of the Bambino... Such a great line in this movie!

  • @LeoWhalen1933
    @LeoWhalen1933 Před 2 lety +2

    Arliss Howard is my favorite actor. I had no idea this was him.

  • @jalcome4201
    @jalcome4201 Před 2 lety +4

    You know whats beautiful. That he refused. "You will be a great baseball player, this offer reflects our desire" is the same as this here "You will be a great GM for us, this offer reflects our desire"

  • @jackmurphy2565
    @jackmurphy2565 Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks Billy Beane, you now made John W Henry Liverpool's majority owner and has made them an Oakland A's of the Premier league. Here's to another 30 years...

  • @aliqazilbash5231
    @aliqazilbash5231 Před 4 lety +37

    There is a clear reason this movie made it with an Oscar, so much truth smashed into one scene..

  • @LowReadyActual
    @LowReadyActual Před 3 měsíci +1

    It's interesting that he put the offer in writing and pushed it over to him. He knows that having the offer in physical form makes it more real. Masterclass in persuasion, even though it ultimately didn't work.

  • @caltom1427
    @caltom1427 Před 3 lety +13

    “Cowboy” from Full Metal Jacket.

    • @DukeofLorraine
      @DukeofLorraine Před 3 lety

      He was also the adult Scotty Smalls in the Sandlot

  • @mg19cal
    @mg19cal Před 4 lety +7

    2:01 "you know, my uncle once had a dinosaur park that I swindled him out of"

  • @deancj1
    @deancj1 Před 4 lety +317

    Never mind the fact that the Oakland A's had and have one of the richest owners in baseball. We Oakland fans are sick of their low ball b.s. seems to be changing slightly......at least they are staying here.

    • @poppy87
      @poppy87 Před 4 lety +2

      The giants can win.

    • @Raiders1234
      @Raiders1234 Před 4 lety +3

      Nah.... they will be in Vegas soon.

    • @Rensune
      @Rensune Před 4 lety +2

      The opposite doesn't work, either.
      The Washington Redskins, in Football, have had the Most overpaid players in the league, for Decades.
      Yet they haven't made it to the Superbowl in 25 years

    • @MurfMan96
      @MurfMan96 Před 4 lety

      Try being a Pirates fan bro 😂

    • @LettucePlate
      @LettucePlate Před 4 lety +2

      @@Rensune I'm pretty sure the Redskins have one of the worst owners/ownership groups in the history of American sports. They'll never be good until they're gone.

  • @danielplainview2360
    @danielplainview2360 Před 2 lety +2

    2:40 "10 year/100k. Take it or leave it"

  • @Brad88ford
    @Brad88ford Před 3 lety +14

    This can be applied to everything in life. Think outside the box

  • @fuita227
    @fuita227 Před 3 lety +14

    Just once would I love to have that look Brad gives, when he see's the amount on that piece of paper...I could die after that...cause it's not about the ring.

  • @eadams1057
    @eadams1057 Před 2 lety +5

    Love this scene. I just lost game 5 for the second year in a row. Get her a bowling ball. 57 years old. Lifelong Redsox fan. That place is a shrine.

  • @Th3DarkCanuck
    @Th3DarkCanuck Před 3 lety +2

    Such a great movie. I watch it at least once a year.

  • @punkrockdavid
    @punkrockdavid Před 3 lety +1

    The things the guy with the glasses are saying hold true so much in the real world.

  • @Korijenkins1414
    @Korijenkins1414 Před 3 lety +38

    The problem with the A's was that Beane basically let it become public knowledge what he was doing.
    Then everyone started doing it, and the advantage they had disappeared. While he was trying to find 3 players to match Giambi, other teams were just getting 5 of 6 Giambis. 18 years later, the Athletics have not won a World Series. They've won a couple division titles, but haven't even reached the World Series in 30 years, which is below average if you assume a team will win a title every 30 years based on the amount of teams.
    Movie also totally leaves out that they had Miguel Tejada and Barry Zito, that year's respective AL MVP and AL Cy Young winner.

    • @WhoopityDoo
      @WhoopityDoo Před 2 lety +1

      Barry Zito still has the best curveball in baseball history. Won't ever change my mind on that.

    • @jordanrutledge7943
      @jordanrutledge7943 Před 2 lety

      “If you assume a team will win a title every 30 years”
      That’s a dumb assumption, not every team has the same payroll. This would put the vast majority of teams “below average”, which makes no sense.
      The A’s have an above average regular season record over that period of time, despite having consistently one of the worst payrolls. Meanwhile the teams with the most success since then, the Red Sox, Giants, and Cardinals, have all had consistently high payrolls over that period. A bigger reason for A’s lack of postseason success is a lack of “clutch”. The teams that manage to win the World Series with a lower payroll generally do it by performing significantly better in the playoffs than their regular season play. And conversely, the Yankees and Dodgers have had the best payrolls but not as many championships as their talent could produce, because they have had worse playoff play than regular season play.

    • @elijahstraight402
      @elijahstraight402 Před 2 lety

      @@jordanrutledge7943 So in order words, you're basically saying: Penny pinch with the team payroll, get clubbered throughout the regular season, but only enough to squeeze into the playoffs, and then go all world on the competition, right? That'll get you a title for sure😂

  • @robertg6019
    @robertg6019 Před 4 lety +7

    Man this movie has some great scenes

  • @maxbrazil3712
    @maxbrazil3712 Před 2 lety +2

    Arliss Howard is a pure actor, an elite.

  • @SnowCompanion
    @SnowCompanion Před rokem +2

    It really feels like he never wrote an amount . He gave him a blank check because he's that good

  • @slimj091
    @slimj091 Před 4 lety +8

    I mean he was kind of right. Teams that have embraced analytics and sabermetrics have been dominate over the past decade and a half. The only problem is that dominance only lasts as long as their key players don't enter free agency. Then the party is over, and it's starting over from scratch.

  • @MrTUBEular10
    @MrTUBEular10 Před 4 lety +42

    A's lose their postseason opportunity in 2019 to.... The Tampa Bay Rays, lowest payroll to start the season. Big oof.

    • @dialecticalmonist3405
      @dialecticalmonist3405 Před 3 lety

      Billy Bean thinking in 4D.
      He wants to lose a bunch to get better picks and then they all come to fruition when the new stadium is built and the owner opens the checkbook to spend big on free agents.

  • @ChristianHasselberg
    @ChristianHasselberg Před 2 lety

    One of the best speeches of all time.

  • @jeffm3163
    @jeffm3163 Před 3 lety +8

    I have a whole new respect for John Henry.

  • @roshi98
    @roshi98 Před 3 lety +12

    I contend that John Henry applied "moneyball" more to Liverpool FC than to the Red Sox. All it took was the right manager (Jurgen Klopp), adjusting scouting priorities, and selling off overpriced stars at peak valuation.

    • @isaimora4198
      @isaimora4198 Před 3 lety +2

      Mane, Firmino, Salah, Van Djik
      Pure moneyball theory there

    • @roshi98
      @roshi98 Před 3 lety +1

      @@isaimora4198 Take a look at LFC's net spend and get back to me. Moneyball does NOT MEAN never spending big money on certain players, so long as they fit the system. Compare what the Suarez money was spent on versus what the Coutinho money brought in.

    • @isaimora4198
      @isaimora4198 Před 3 lety +4

      @@roshi98 i'm sorry if my comment was not clear
      What I meant to say is that I agree with you
      All those players like Van Djik, Firmino, Salah are good examples of meneyball
      They were not the most expensive yet They are now some of the best in the world
      So yeah, liverpool is a great example of moneyball theory

    • @tc7560
      @tc7560 Před 3 lety +2

      @@isaimora4198 Not quite, VVD was at the time the highest transfer record for a CB (still 2nd highest now). But in this case Liverpool absolutely made the right choice to shell out money here.

    • @MaxMW1
      @MaxMW1 Před 2 lety

      @@tc7560 that money was funded from the sale of coutinho

  • @Putaspellonyou
    @Putaspellonyou Před 4 lety +17

    "Congratulations. That makes you the highest paid general manager in the history of sports."

  • @justinb2022
    @justinb2022 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Howard is such a great actor.

  • @biggsw7783
    @biggsw7783 Před 3 lety +5

    No way John Henry is this smooth in real life

  • @matthewcarle5970
    @matthewcarle5970 Před 4 lety +96

    2001: Vietnam vet Pvt. Cowboy once thought dead, retired from the Marines and went on to own the Boston Red Sox

    • @robertmorris8997
      @robertmorris8997 Před 4 lety +5

      Actually he was a Corporal in Vietnam.

    • @gmoney4292
      @gmoney4292 Před 4 lety +6

      Oh my that is private cowboy.... "I didn't know that stacked 💩 that high"

    • @markkond8565
      @markkond8565 Před 4 lety

      Nah, Cowboy got eaten by a T-rex. That's his identical twin.

    • @feslerae
      @feslerae Před 4 lety +3

      There ain't one horse in baseball. Not one.

  • @guardianangel138
    @guardianangel138 Před 2 lety +3

    i sooooooooooo loved this scene. i so hope this conversation and meeting was so true. billy says cause its the redsoxs and i believe science has an answer in which baseball curses shouldnt come true. has a curse of the bambino. well written. so true. and you hired bill james. well baseball hates him. classic.

  • @user-bz9sj8mh5d
    @user-bz9sj8mh5d Před 3 lety +17

    Billy turned down the offer to stay closer to family. Maybe he should've taken it, he still hasn't won a World Series since. However, he is now a part owner of the A's, so it's not like he's in the poor house.

    • @aznpikachu215
      @aznpikachu215 Před 3 lety

      If I recall. Didn't he get minority ownership with th A's?

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 Před 3 lety

      True, also confusing why he's stressed about " hoping to send my daughter to college"? Come on! All these jobs in baseball including this one and he's cash strapped for college funds? I can't believe that unless Robin Wright took him to the cleaners ( with her Birkenstock, curry breath, tofu eating hippy man-child 2nd husband).

    • @aznpikachu215
      @aznpikachu215 Před 3 lety

      @@kendallevans4079 He's probably talking about Universities instead of community colleges.

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 Před 3 lety

      @@aznpikachu215 Still.! He must have had at least a couple million, don't you think? I just can't imagine the GM of a MLB club worry about sending their kid to ANY university...

    • @M3A7
      @M3A7 Před 3 lety +1

      @@aznpikachu215 Ah yes, that $30k a year tuition is so hard to pay for when you are making $2+ million a year............. Dumb comment dude.

  • @robertb2245
    @robertb2245 Před 4 lety +3

    Great monologue !!!

  • @garcianelson123
    @garcianelson123 Před 3 lety +5

    Fun Fact the actor with Brad is Cowboy from Full Metal Jacket

    •  Před 3 lety

      Didn't recognize him untill u said that

  • @NYG1991
    @NYG1991 Před 4 lety +19

    So the great New York Yankees spent $1.4 million per win against the A’s $260K?! Wow! Talk about a huge gap!

    • @pdxlockpicker7796
      @pdxlockpicker7796 Před 3 lety +2

      250m roster vs 41m roster. Pretty insane

    • @NYG1991
      @NYG1991 Před 3 lety

      @@pdxlockpicker7796, it is & it’s also tough to compare the numbers.

  • @red5llaw
    @red5llaw Před 3 lety

    Fabulous clip. awesome.

  • @adamkarr3218
    @adamkarr3218 Před rokem

    "random quote that we all heard"
    Amazing!!!!

  • @sergioelgueda7298
    @sergioelgueda7298 Před 4 lety +33

    0:36 This phrase applies to almost all sports...

  • @jeffhobbs1729
    @jeffhobbs1729 Před 2 lety +17

    anybody who has ever seen Full Metal Jacket knows Arliss is the real deal. His portrayal of Cowboy especially his feath scene is just perfect

  • @drphalanges1520
    @drphalanges1520 Před 4 měsíci

    Arliss Howard is so natural in this scene. This is some of the best acting I think I've ever seen.

  • @mikefriend1514
    @mikefriend1514 Před 2 lety +1

    Henry may not have lured Billy Beane to the Red Sox but he did bring Juergen Klopp to Liverpool FC. So he’s a pretty good judge of Character.

  • @Sneakycastro69
    @Sneakycastro69 Před 4 lety +79

    Funny because the marlins won a World Series with only 47 million dollar payroll.

    • @williamblackfyre4866
      @williamblackfyre4866 Před 4 lety +1

      Is that adjusted for inflation? If not, it's not really a fair comparison. I mean, look at the 93 Phillies, they made the World Series on a payroll of 26 million.

    • @mario2942
      @mario2942 Před 4 lety +6

      William Blackfyre marlins won in 2003, this movie is set in 2002

    • @lucyhg2010
      @lucyhg2010 Před 4 lety +3

      William Blackfyre are you dumb?

    • @mjwbulich
      @mjwbulich Před 4 lety +13

      That was one of if not the biggest fluke in the history of MLB. The owner had gutted the team of all it's talent to cut payroll. Anyone that would use the 2003 Marlins as a model on how to build a winning team is a complete idiot.

    • @antoyal
      @antoyal Před 3 lety +3

      In their first 11 seasons the Marlins had just two seasons with a W/L over .500: a 91-win season and a 92-win season. Two seasons, and two wild card spots that led to World Series wins. Fluke city, and an excellent argument against increasing the number of wild card spots, not to mention runaway expansion of the number of teams. (Can you tell that I'm a salty Giants fan? 😄) But you've got to hand it to them, they made the most of their playoff spots.

  • @evanhaskel206
    @evanhaskel206 Před 4 lety +31

    It would have been funny if he had sent a copy of the offer to the former head scout who thought he was setting them up to fail. No words would be necessary.

    • @moralesfv8228
      @moralesfv8228 Před 3 lety +1

      No need. you're either in the game or you're out. And when you're out, you're no longer privied to that type of info, you're simply out and alone with your bones.

    • @hybridtechowns
      @hybridtechowns Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah that guy was a jerk

  • @vitaminA_1
    @vitaminA_1 Před 3 lety +2

    The guy playing the Red Sox owner is smooth as hell.

    • @kendallevans4079
      @kendallevans4079 Před 3 lety

      Yes and I thought Billy was out of line with the "...get her a bowling ball for all I care.." comment. The owner was just making a little small talk to warm up to the big stuff, nothing wrong there.

  • @bolch88bb8
    @bolch88bb8 Před 2 lety +1

    The dude with the glasses owns this role. So believeable.

  • @claudiadelaosa7125
    @claudiadelaosa7125 Před 3 lety +5

    This scene is hands down so freaking good!

  • @viksaggu9085
    @viksaggu9085 Před 4 lety +4

    Why did you return my call?
    Free coffee

  • @peterbell5806
    @peterbell5806 Před 2 lety +1

    1:30 classic quote. Sticks with me still

  • @GrinderCB
    @GrinderCB Před 2 lety

    This is one of my favorite baseball movies ever. Ranks right up there with Pride of the Yankees.

  • @InDatParish
    @InDatParish Před 4 lety +11

    Is this Cowboy from Full Metal Jacket? 😂

  • @ttanizawa901
    @ttanizawa901 Před 2 lety +4

    I know next to zero about baseball and this is still one of my favorite movies.

  • @seancollins6524
    @seancollins6524 Před 3 lety

    I see this movie 100 times fantastic story great acting

  • @TerrillFischer
    @TerrillFischer Před 3 lety +2

    Best line in the whole movie which applies to life! @1:26 to @1:59 "The First guy through the wall always get bloodied. Always!..."

  • @quigley_cav
    @quigley_cav Před 2 lety +15

    Man, whoever played the guy from the Red Sox did such a great job in this scene, I think

    • @jeffhobbs1729
      @jeffhobbs1729 Před 2 lety +2

      same dude is Cowboy in Full Metal Jacket and performes the single best death scene ever

  • @shanghaibricks3300
    @shanghaibricks3300 Před 3 lety +8

    Billy Beane is not my GM
    He's just a guy, who claims that he is the one.
    But the Beane is not my gun.

  • @ALD56
    @ALD56 Před 2 lety

    Awesome scene in a movie full of them. That was a BIG number on that piece of paper (for the time)

  • @CresencioMedina
    @CresencioMedina Před rokem +2

    For those deep hearted baseball fans, that gentleman with the glasses, he portrayed the adult Scottie Smalls in The Sandlot.