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- Moneyball - We Need Money: Billy (Brad Pitt) is frustrated with the team's small budget.
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Billy Beane (Brad Pitt), general manager of the Oakland A's, one day has an epiphany: Baseball's conventional wisdom is all wrong. Faced with a tight budget, Beane must reinvent his team by outsmarting the richer ball clubs. Joining forces with Ivy League graduate Peter Brand (Jonah Hill), Beane prepares to challenge old-school traditions. He recruits bargain-bin players whom the scouts have labeled as flawed, but have game-winning potential. Based on the book by Michael Lewis.
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Cast: Brad Pitt
Screenwriter: Aaron Sorkin, Steven Zaillian
Director: Bennett Miller
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I always found it hilarious to see Bobby Kotick (CEO of Activision) sitting at a desk and saying with a straight face, "we don't have any more money."
Great acting by Bobby
to me this is genius. the reason Bobby fits in so well because this is literally what he said to his team when they ask for more money to make actual quality games lmao.
CEOs are not really rich. Owners are, who do not have to *work*, like Bobby. Compare him to the owner of the other team, who made Billy that offer later: His life revolves about thinking what birthday present his wife would be willing to accept.
That's probably tons more realistic. Especially if he lighted a cigar using a $100 bill.
Kotick ruins everything he touches, except this scene.
the one who is playing the owner for oakland is Bobby Kotick, the ceo of Activision, and hearing him say they have no money is just the most ironic thing ever.
You and Alanis Morissette need to learn what irony means
@@foramuricy Jorge, in this case, I'm with Conor. Lol. Kotick fires 800 people while pocketing millions....he's actually the perfect choice to play Schott.
What a weird cameo.
@@banzaiboy1597 super weird
I remember thinking "wow, that guy really looks like Bobby Kotick." Now I know why.
Director: The way you crush Billy's hopes for more resources so he can do his job is so natural.
Bobby Kotick: Thanks I have tons of practice.
There is a powerful message at 1:34. As long as the other person responds to you within the conversation, you can try to persuade them. But when Billy is met with "can i help you with anything else?" that means the previous conversation is over and you can no longer persuade them.
totally, they way this guy just played a cold calculating shark devoid of emotion was total genius. Just look at his eyes through this interaction.
I love how he's playing both sides. He tells the owner he already lost their three marquee players to try to get more money and in the very next scene he's still working on deals to keep them.
He has to be working on deals to keep them just in case he does get the money.
That's not called "Playing both sides...." that's called sucking it up and trying to do your best with what you have.
That's not really playing both sides
He's literally playing for one side, and that's the Oakland A's... Trying to secure more money from the owner while simultaneously trying to resign their star player for as little as possible is not "playing both sides."
How many millions of times has this conversation happened in the history of professional sports?
Not as many as you think. This owner is a POS. Many owners aren’t
Because I do.....
Orange Fox aww that’s awesome. What is a pos
"Piece of S***"
Orange Fox bullshit. Even GMs on teams with money go to the owner saying we need more money, or that we’re one big player away.
This movie was a masterpiece.
*is
must be... because im drawn to it every time its on tv
Top ten list for me💪
This is probably on the top-10 movies I can rewatch over and over again.
That’s because Sorkin is a thrilling writer
It’s okay Brad Pitt, we’ll just make more Call of Duty games.
I can't leave here and go promote a Diablo Mobile game out there!
Okay Brad Pitt really shows off some great silent acting in this role. His silence on that phone and then his look after he hangs up and throws it...perfection.
LOL Scott Boras at the end..."we have a deal.....for 8 million.."
Yelp.. then at 8 million they'll have a deal at 8.5..
@@questtech7148 Scott Boras is a renowned POS.
GMs must have been so satisfied 2-3 years ago when Scott couldn’t get any of his players big contracts. Then this past offseason happened...
@@2chin4u if you were a baseball player you would love to have him as your agent to get the best deal for you
Therealjcon oh definitely, but I am speaking as a salty fan lmao
actual meeting between arsenals manager arteta and stan kroenke
LMAO thanks for the laugh fellow gooner
@@KabzieMusic LOL 😂😎 COYG!!!
kroenke also owns LA Rams, Denver Nuggets, Colorado Avalanche, etc. They suffer the exact same thing LOL
@@ezrakim8275 Didn't the Rams re-sign Aaron Donald and Todd Gurley to record breaking contracts?
@@pohpooooo yes
at least kroenke family use some money tho
Dang! This movie is soooo good. I even like the squeaking of the leather chair and the slight hesitation in Brad Pitt's voice when he's talking with the owner. It all just looks and sounds totally authentic. Love it!
Bobby Kotick was perfect for this movie. This is exactly the speech he gives at the end of every World of Warcraft and Diablo expansion.
Realistically-“Billy, I’m gonna make you part owner, you’re going to manage a shoestring budget and your profits come out of that!” Genius move, and smart for him not to go to Boston, when he could be part owner and have complete control in Oakland.
Also longevity! Ppl don’t last in Boston and ny
Wait until Portland or Las Vegas shell out for their next stadium.
@@Ben-il3oc Exactly. Beane might've won a WS ring if he went to Boston but 2-3 years later he would've been fired if they missed the playoffs.
@@Ben-il3oc Brian Cashman has been the yankees GM since 1998, so this is false
@bubbajoon I indirectly also implying managers too. So yes, it’s true in except for Cash.
This is probably the same conversation he had with the original directors at infinity ward before they left 😂
that is the CEO of Activision Blizzard.
Huh?
@@dominick951 I think he means, the CEO acted the same way, didn't want to fund the investment.
@@kbanghart No that's literally Bobby Kotick the CEO of Activision.
@@Belzabub2 oh lol
Peter R
''you are going to go out there and please the pc customers with Diablo Immortal''
It's almost surreal to see bobby kottick say he has no money 🤣
We all have very bad opinions on Bobby Kotick but credit where it's due, he nailed this scene. Totally looks on-brand for a small market team owner.
He's obviously given this speech before.
As a lifelong Orioles fan I imagine this conversation happens every year.
Pirates fans say hello... the difference is the A's actually do remain competitive with the money they have. Bob Nutting had a championship-level team and let it fall apart cuz he's a total cheapskate.
@@nahor88 I always thought Baltimore would rise and yeah, yikes. Also, as a fan of baseballs history, it’s a shame the Pirates aren’t better. Marquee name, historically. I hope that changes one day.
Mets fan here. The former owners the Wilpons were so cheap and always have been when they owned the team. They kept forgetting that they were a New York Market Team. I was so happy when they finally sold the team to Steve Cohen who's making every effort to start winning!
This scene is was inspiring by actually meeting with Blizzard and Activision devs.
Finally I found a recent bobby kotick comment
That's Bobby Kotick. The CEO of Activision/Blizzard.
“ My bar is here, that’s my bar.” Love that line.
Billy instead of more Money Hire a Kid from Yale, crunch some numbers, win more games.
change the game of baseball. SIMPLE*
He wasn't the 1st he just made it famous
Thank you. I feel like your review fully described the movie.
@Jack Storm Baseball has always been stat-driven, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
The A's needed a competitive advantage. They found undervalued skills that other teams overlooked. That's the point of the movie. Besides, advanced stats were around before the Moneyball A's. Way before.
But Damon went on to win two World Series titles.
I guess Kotick was born to play this role.
"We don't have any more money."
Exactly what he says to the various studio presidents asking for more budget so they can make their games a little bit better. No, just work with the budgets you have and make games okay enough that they'll sell for profit.
God working for him would suck. I’d go off on him and be fired because you have to care about quality and balance it with profits
"I can't compete against $120 million payroll with $38 million dollars..." funny how that's almost the driving line of the whole film in yet another classic, Aaron Sorkin co-written screenplay. I would expect nothing less
This movie was so awesome I remember me and my brother watching this season screaming everytime we would win we are all grown up now and I wish I saw my brother more but at least the A’s still doing pretty decent.
Brad Pitt in this scene with that outfit, hair, and sunglasses looks exactly like Adler in Call of Duty Cold War.
What's funny about your comment is the guy he's taking to is played by Bobby Kotick the CEO of Activison.
Fun fact: That is Bobby Kotick. He along with a few others singlehandedly ruined most Blizzard franchises.
Ruined Blizzard as a company. Ruined the decades of goodwill from the massive fanbase built up with solid title after solid title.
The actor? Or the character the owner of the A's
that's a cool fact, thanks
If he did it with a few others, he didn't do it singlehandedly.
"We need more money."
"We don;t have any money."
"You literally just pocketed 155 million dollar bonus."
"Like I said, no money. I already spent it on my fifth yacht. What do you want me to do? Invest that money into the team? What is this? Communist Russia?"
Yup, that’s the best part. He pretends like he doesn’t have the money but he absolutely does, he just wants to use it to enrich himself instead of spending it on the team.
😂😂😂😂
@@legendofthefall7082 Steve Cohen proving that in the last week.
It's 2022 and Oakland still doesn't have money
Brad Pitt = good actor. His fame gets in the way...just saying.
In the way of what? Just saying.
@@NaptownClassic I think he means his acting ability is often overlooked because of his looks and their impact on pop culture for the last 20 something years.
Everyone knows he is a great actor though.... didnt he just win an oscar? Lol and he was nominated for this role as well
A character actor trapped in a leading man's body.
Why do you think he's famous...?
I was expecting Bobby Kotick to look into a large mirror and say...."Im good enough, im smart enough, and done gone it.....people like me."
I'm sure Scott Boras will have another similar conversation this offseason about Gerrit Cole.
"I'm not leaving here...I'm not...I'm not...I can't leave here with that."
"What else can I help you with?"
Game over, man.
I had no idea about baseball, still don't... But this movie was so well made that I absolutely loved it..... It was like the Leicester City story
No it wasn't because the Oakland Globe Trotters didn't win anything. It was a good movie though.
love the last part of the scene where Billy Beane tells Scott Boras that he played him.
Scott boras is the bane of every small market team's existence lmao
I am a casual baseball watcher... could take it or leave it... but this is one of my most favorite movies!
Made 1.5 billion margin in one year
Fired 800 employees same year
" We don t have money "
I think I need to actually watch this movie, because every clip is great.
Money Bawling... begging for money.
This movie needed an alternate dream ending with him going to the Red Sox, where winning was important to an owner with plenty of money.
"Billy, what do I get my wife?" "Get her a another Rolls Royce."
4 rings in 15 years. That’s the dream!
Alas, they decided to go with reality. Billy Beane has been paid part of the club as part of his salary, so maybe he can shake some money loose by threatening to sell his portion to his owner’s ex-wife, someday. Until then, he’ll have to live with being a good father near his daughter and his team having an “Eh” record in the playoffs.
@@Egilhelmson actually he's working for John Henry now to manage European soccer ventures
@@ryancrowell9867 WOW!!! YEAH! can you believe it.
As a pirates fan, I feel this lol
Bob nutting needs to be tossed off the Clemente Bridge for the pirates to progress
Adam Smith No, we haven’t had a decent ownership group since the Galbraith Group sold it to the City. That group destroyed the scouting/minor league system and the ones since then have accepted losing seasons and enough revenue to pay off the debt and the ownership groups.
Maybe someone should convince the Red Sox owner to invest in a bad Broadway show, and we’ll buy his quants off him. :-). .
@@Egilhelmson You giving a stroke a stroke in a day pal.
That paragraph 💀
Was that Bobby Kotick, Activision/Blizzard CEO, as A's co-owner Steve Schott? That's an odd casting.
Yes. It threw me off when I saw him that role
Weard casting, indeed.
Why is it weird?
Because he’s not a real actor and some people now actually think he’s the real owner lol
@@orangefox1231 well, those people should do their research then, and don't assume everything they see in a movie is true.
Never knew Activision CEO Bobby Kotick played a role in a movie.
i love a filthy rich owner saying they can't afford to spend more money on their biggest investment
I don't know anything about the owner. But, just to play devil's advocate, why SHOULD The owner or a CEO be expected to pay a ton of money if they don't want to? Maybe they don't want to spend like the Yankees or the Sox, maybe they just want to be somewhere in the hunt.
Because they’re obligated to in order to make the team as competitive as possible and thus make the overall product better. And because they’re given revenue sharing money SPECIFICALLY to do that; not pocket it and cry poor like Oakland owners have done for over a decade
@@kbanghart it's an investment. you think the most valuable sports franchises would be worth what they are if not for ridiculously expensive stadiums and player contracts? if their teams languished at the bottom of the league every year?
NFL is different. There is a salary cap and it’s there to stop Jerry from getting all the players. There’s a soft cap in NBA too. But NBA is all about the stars. Better to save money if you don’t have a star etc. then when you get one, you give him the max deal allowed.
In baseball they have a luxury tax limit that if you cross that, you pay penalty money. But it’s around...200 million. 160 probably in 2002. This owner is paying 38 million, over 100 million less than what’s allowable and he’s not fully wrong. Oakland needed a new stadium and the fan base was economically poor. But he could afford to spend more money. 50-60 million isn’t outside the possibility. And anyone trying to say that he couldn’t afford it, is lying. You have to look close at numbers, but they are definitely lying.
@michael EXACTLY. But some of these owners realize they can make money without trying to win, so they don’t.
There are 3 scenes from Moneyball i watch every day before work. This is one of them.
One of the best movies that I have ever seen.
i like how this movie is only dialogue and only about baseball but still people who care about baseball love it
Bobby Kotick has a lot of experience at playing as a greedy short term thinking CEO.
"What we need is a Moneyball, 2011 biographical sports drama film"
Dutch Van Der Linde talking to Arthur Morgan
But its actually going towards something: winning!!! But very great analogy, very accurate!😂
"I will keep trying, and you'll keep doubting me, and we’ll keep failing. Billy, you have got to keep faith!"
Bad CEO, Bad Actor
2:25 when the dog has a full bowl and begs for food
I am "asking" you not to spend the $$ I dont have....love you Sorkin :):)
This is Mikel Arteta negotiating with Stan Kroenke in the boardroom right now
I've never seen this movie, but I've watched dozens of clips it seems great
Its amazing
It's quite good, highly recommend.
1:06 real manager talk!!
Vou vê agora este filme!!!👏👏👏👏👏Sinto que vou gostar!
Lived in the Bay Area and became an A's fan. (Mid 70s, grew up a Dodgers fan so it couldn't be the Giants) This one of my guilty pleasure movies. I watch it every time I surf into it. Old guy, so I like movies about people not CGI.
20 years later and Billy Beane still has 0 rings
Yep
And he is rich and has a great life. So at the end of the day I doubt he cares. Caring about that stuff is for the weird sports dorks that live through a sports team.
I own and watch this movie a lot. It never gets old
that sweater is incredible
Thing is though, this is right in the end. Once other teams started using analytics they quickly took a way any advantage the A's had. Teams need to at least be willing to able/willing to spend just below average to be able to win a world series. Analytics are useful but you need stars, maybe not superstars, to win multiple playoff series. Alot of the algorithm bases things on habits and predictions in 162 game season. Teams play differently when they are only guaranteed to be playing for the next few games if they can win.
What a cast of top notch actors.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this was based on Bobby’s url conversation with Blizzard 🤷♂️
I didn't know Bobby Kotick was an actor.
He was good!
What it’s like playing as a non league club on Football Manager...
This was a GREAT movie.
Klopp talking to FSG at the end of every season
Dude on the phone sounds kinda like Ray Liotta
Pitts= pirates fans ; A’s owner = pirates owner.
“Anything else I can help you with?” = This conversation is over.
Wow. You’re really smart.
@@xMACHOxMANx Et tu Brutus.
I would've responded with: "fine, be that way. I quit".
Acting like a small indie company. Very talented at that hahahaa 😂😂😂😂😂
This scene resonates more over time. What would of happen if they got more money back then that year? He was right the goal should of been a World Series that year. Now the cost is far greater and the goal post is much further it feels. These days I feel like the A's trade players too early so they don't end up in these spots again where players leave through free agency and they aren't prepared for it.
I know nothing about baseball but I still love this film
What a legacy!
Brad Pitt should have gone to Microsoft for the money
I don't really watch baseball. I am more of a basketball fan but I was heavily drawn to this movie. I keep re-watching it. I guess if your a sports fan, it's relatable.
There are many great films about sports I don't usually watch. I live in the UK so we don't even have a professional rounders league even though it has its origins here. I liked this film and a couple of other films on the subject, the one about the Black Sox Scandel (Eight Men Out) was intresting. There are also one or two good golf films I have seen over the years which had me gripped to the story even though I only play golf at the pitch-and-putt.
This is why Steinbrenner will always be best owner in modern history. This A's owner is cheap. LOL
LMAO this is actual Bobby Kotick
Yep, and still the same cheap, soulless douche he’s always been.
Whose Fabio? And someone answers "He's a shortstop for Seattle" lol
Can't believe Bobby kotick is in the film
Can't believe we've allowed him to try and kill single player gaming and then sell us online multiplayer games and milk us with DLC.
Yep
He was friends with the director who swapped a deal to direct some video/CGI storyline for a video game of Kotick's in exchange for this cameo.
Billie should have remembered this conversation when he turned down the chance to go to the Red Sox for exponentially more money. They were on board with the program and they were willing to back it up.
Masterpiece
Worries about money but leaves the lights on during the day
If I was in that room, I would've yelled "Bullshit" at Schott for claiming to not have the money to potentially take the Athletics to the next level. And if he was not going to be serious enough on winning a championship, I would've submitted my resignation at the spot.
Billy deserves better, and I hope he'll get a Ring one day. But he won't find it in Oakland as long as the ownership continues to be cheap.
Its not bullshit... They literally can't spend money that they don't have lol
Oh they have lots of money, but they choose not to spend it. Most baseball club owners are billionaires so they could spend more, but they don't because they just don't care as long as they're in the MLB that's enough for them as long as they sell tickets and merchandise.
I knew John Henry was portrayed at the end of the movie, didn’t realize it was also in this scene.
Ah yes, the infamous Scott Boras playing GMs like backwoods banjos...
Felt that pain for awhile as a Padres fan, thank god we got an owner that will pay up now.
Owner: "Why not?"
Shouldn't ownership have more awareness?
The keyword is “should”. This guy is a known cheapskate, and overall douche!
Scene at the end with the agent is just like a lawyer. "Just doing my job for my client". So the end (higher payout) justifies any means (reneging on deals).
Agents usually are lawyers. In this scene the agent (Scott) is Scott Boras, I'm sure.
It's the agents job to get the best deal for his client, and the GM's job to get the best deal for his team. It's competition, and a business. You can't take it personally.
I’ve never heard of Scott doing a team like that though it wouldn’t surprise me. But they portray him a big negatively. Boras cares about his clients Bc he knows they are an injury away from career being over and he doesn’t want to see young guys who aren’t even 30 be stuck in the circle of life where they have a serious injury, no more career, and no money to fall back on for them or their families while they try to figure what to do post pro ball
A deal isnt official until ink is on paper contractually. Boras is a scumbag, but he gets his players their money. That's his job.
@@orangefox1231 yeah what a tragedy, someone with the rest of their life ahead having to figure things out like every other person, with only a few scant millions to fall back on. the horror
Ladies and gentlemen......Scott Boras lol
Money isnt everything but some owners are just complacent about losing every year without any change.
At least he wanted to change the same old story.
Mikel Arteta in Stan Kronke’s office at the end of the catastrophic 2019/2020 Arsenal season.
I love this movie. And I assume Kotick is the same unless he loses COD.
An owner who wants to play it cheap. You can't win championships with a bargain basement mentality. An owner who can't or doesn't want to spend money to give his team a chance at a championship should not be allowed in the league. What's the point of owning a team if not to win championships. The fans who buy the tickets with their hard earned money deserve a championship just as much as the players and owner, but it takes money to win. Sad but true
No...in BASEBALL it cost money to win...baseball is the only sport in this country where you're allowes to just throw money at the problem and get a ring in return...its an unfair game
@@kingsosa6493 I live in Denver and the Colorado Rockies are big here, consistently selling between 40 to 50 thousand tickets a game. The fan support is here but unfortunately the Rockies owners the Munford brothers are complacent with mediocrety. The fans and the local media know the problem with this team, no good pitching. Our starting rotation is a joke usually lasting 3 or 4 innings until we go to a bullpen that is vastly overused and sputters out toward the end of the season. Most Rockies game are won because of batting, out hitting their opponents. The owners won't spend a dime on quality starting pitching but rather resign their batters to ridiculous extensions, like Aranado . Smh
king sosa nah that’s how it should be. Imagine the NBA with no salary cap. Imagine the NFL with no salary cap. The Jets and Knicks would stop being jokes immediately.
@@KillerAJ You're right and the key being a salary cap. Baseball has no salary cap, therefore it's an unfair game with the rich teams winning and the poor teams being bottom feeders . The NFL, NBA, and NHL have salary caps in place with the idea that a few teams cant simply buy a championship. Better believe, if there was no salary cap in the NFL, Jerry Jones would become the George Steinbrenner of the league and the Dalls Cowboys would become the Yankees of the league buying up the best players with nothing to stop them. Thank God the NFL, NBA , and NHL have a salary cap to give parity to their sports.
Paul Thacker Yeah but Dallas is a shitty place to live. While NYC teams would become dominant.
this is actually Ion Hazzikostas asking Bobby Kotick for more time on [insert current world of warcraft expansion].
If you don't have money than don't be a sports team owner. The A's is most idiotic ran team from the owners not the GM or the lower management.
Best scene in the movie.
This movie is easily in my top 5 list
As a Red Sox fan, I was happy to see Johnny Damon sign with Boston....but this movie, if anywhere near accurate.....what a gut punch man! Boras already had a deal and for what? $1 million? He goes to Boston? Course it was a great idea...4 years @ 7.75 mil. Got a ring in year 3.