Strade Bianche Becomes Harder in 2024, Monument Worthy? | LRCP Clips
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- In this clip Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen discuss the changed parcours of Strade Bianche 2024.
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Good discussion. My main issue with the Strade are the UCI points, whereas monuments get you 800 points, and many other races 500 (e.g. Gent-Wevelgem), strade only 400... Even 4th place in a monument will get you more (440).
Who do we remember more, winner of SB or a 4th place on a monument?
a monument is a cycle race that does not have gravel roads where Evenpoel can slip on.
The term “classic” or “monument’ should not be predicated on age alone. Our great sport is ever-evolving and those who oppose a new addition to the pantheon would have cycling dipped in aspic as a museum piece. To my mind Strada Bianche is like discovering a dream ride when one is out exploring new terrain. The additional loop added this year, taking the distance beyond 200+km ought to satisfy the naysayers. Early spring in Tuscany with dreamy scenery and roads that evoke an earlier age make this race my favourite one-dayer of the year. And what a grand finish! Its roll-call of winners already legitimately assumes this race is prized amongst the greats of our sport.
It was perfectly fine as it was; 180 km with that amount of climbing and gravel sections - and was a race for all kinds of riders. GT riders, classics riders, CX & MTB riders as well........
These changes may well suit the GT/ climbers more than classics riders - time will tell.
I disagree, classics riders tend to have more endurance these days, e.g mvdp, pedersen, asgreen, kung and obviously tadej.
A longer race makes it easier for mvdp r van aert to take the title.
Maybe in another 30 years or so.. It will be interesting to see the race this year with the new course but I'm not sure if it will make the race better. It was already great.
Monument or not, it’s the 2nd best one day race on the calendar
3rd. But I won't fight you over it.
Flanders, Roubaix, Strade in that order. Give me yours@@Jan-se1nd
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The honor roll since 2010 is at least as strong as Lombardia, MSR, or PR over that time period. Who says we can only have 5 monuments?
A monument must be 100+ years old
What is the practical difference if it is a monument or not? are more points or money or team riders added to a monument race? If not the call it what ever the sponsors want, to sell the race and make pro cycling more popular.
strade is a monument in my eyes
Were the monuments developed through the original World Cup series points given out think Bartoli, Taffe. One factor used to determine Monument status appears distance ie needs to be 240-270km. Strade is iconic but still isn’t that long BUT it has a lot of white gravel. Think it should be a monument as we’re becoming clear Monument status doesn’t have a long history just the races they attached the status too - till now…
I will forever hate the take that a race where the action happens early and someone rides solo is boring. I love those races most of all. They’re more unpredictable
If someone is solo with 50k to go it’s kind of predictable whos gonna win, no?
The monuments are the monuments. There is an historical element to them. Not just sectors of gravel or cobbles. They can add a middle ground between regular worldtour and monument?
5 monuments
5 classics A
Strade, La Fleche, Amstel, + Gent Wevelgem, saxobank?
Brugge de Panne, San Sebastian, Dwars door Vlaanderen, Omloop after that perhaps?
These are C classics for me, could've been 1PRO.
Bemer, Eschborn, Quebec, Bretagne Classic, Cadel Evans, Montreal
La Fleche is after RvV likely my most anticipated one day race of the season.
A monument is a WT level race that has been continually run (except for WW1 and WW2) for over 100 yrs. Yes it’s an arbitrary definition but it works and new races like Strade may be hard but are not monument. There are other worthy contenders.
If you randomly start adding races with short histories to the monument category, you say that Rik van Looy, Roger de Vlaeminck and Eddy Merckx have not won all the monuments. If you add new races, you are retroactively moving the goalposts. That is obviously unfair.
With time it can grow into a monument, cause it was something new, and the white grind creates a special visual. It has the terrain, the difficulty, it's own special character/uniqueness. And the creme of cycling has been winning the race (Cancellara, Gilbert, Stybar, Van Aert, Van der Poel, Pogacar, Pidcock, Alaphilliphe). It ain't a monument yet. But if this race continues to exist it can definitely grow into one.
Yup we know it’s hard because of who wins it. It would need 40 more kilometres to get even more status.
By getting called a monument, they may hope to sell the television rights for more than they currently do?
Why hasn't Evenepoel gone for Strade?
Probably you should be happy to be a thoroughbred horse and resist the temptation to jump the fence because you've heard you'll become a unicorn......
They should have kept it the way it was, it was already hard enough.
Make the Strade a 'monument' and if you win it, people will expect you to win it 5 times or something stupid like that. Someone wining this exciting and beautiful race generally isn't written off if they don't win it again. Why? Because it is 'minor' but nonetheless a beautiful race to win and a variety of riders can and do win it. Do not recut this gem.
People don't say "men from the boys" anymore? I don't know about that but Strade is a great race and it shouldn't be called a monument.
I think in Tennis they have similar conversations of adding another grand slam in Dubai.
No, that has never been even close to be a serious topic. The tournament that was considered the fifth grand slam was the Miami Masters. The reason it was considered the fifth slam was because it was a tournament that played in best of five set format for every match until 1989. In resent years there has been made some argument for making Indian Wells the 5th slam. The main stadium at Indian Wells seats 16,100-the second largest dedicated tennis stadium in the world, after Arthur Ashe stadium in New York (and another new permanent stadium is on the way). The spacious site covers over 50 acres, and its attendance record of approximately 400,000 (by comparison, Wimbledon’s attendance hovers between 450k and 500K). Most importantly the tournament draws those fans from a deep, traditional, knowledgeable local pool, as well as visitors to the popular Palm Springs area tourist destinations.
One of the arguments made against it is that the four majors no longer reflect the geopolitical realities of tennis to nearly the same degree they once did. They just happened to be the tournaments that were in the right place at the right time. The once making these statements tends to argue for a fifth slam being held in Latin America. Other places named as candidates are Monte Carlo, Madrid, Rome and Shanghai. Dubai has never been part of this debate as they lack local players, knowledgeable fans and historic importance regarding tennis as a sport or recreational activity.
Or Indian Wells being the unofficial 5th slam due to its popularity
Monument is history simple as that…if you start saying this or that can join it opens the floodgates & nothing is a monument then…
Ill add it’s a brilliant race though…
Genuine question, when does a race gain enough history to become a monument though?
@@williamstevens2382 don’t think any other races can ever be a monument…maybe the tier under is a statue 🤔🤣
Amstel should be monument before Strade.
Amstel started in 1966 and so will be a monument in 2066 using the definition of a one day race that has been run for at least 100 years
I love Amstel! Both the women's and the men's!
Amstel will in the upcoming years likely struggle to get organised due to lack of Dutch police and laws.
As a Dutchman it's painful to say but I think the UCI should've actually made it a 1PRO after last edition, until they clean up the Amstel.
- 2019 race organiser Leo van Vliet, prior and after the race was screaming that he would want van der Poel to win
- 2020 Covid no race
- 2021 dubious that they gave it to WvA over Pidcock, but that they couldn't prove it wasn't a great show
- 2022 they first gave it to Cosnefroy, not entirely sure if something controversial happened
- 2023, Leo van Vliet the race organiser starts pulling Pogačar with a car with a massive Amstel sign on it. One of the biggest plain cheating acts I've seen in modern history, it wasn't as bad as Nibali using the car uphill. But damn it was bad. After that he gave out an interview saying that he was a rider himself and riding infront of a rider with a car doesn't do anything.
Also him shouting things to Pogačar it's beyond unprofessional.
Amstel should've been heavily punished. It's one of the races I look the least forward to. It makes a mockery out of the sport.
Leo van Vliet is an embarrassment to the sport of cycling.
Can we please stop the stupid discussion every year. There are 5 monuments for decades. There will always be a best non-monument race. If we add Strade, we will ask for Wevelgem next. And then for Omloop. Please stop it.
No
Who tf would ask for Omloop or Wevelgem? 😂
Yawn. Lombardia is so boring anyway, should be removed as a 'monument'. It's overrated and then some. Milano-Sanremo? YAWN! Plenty of one day races are better than these 2.
Thank for smart comment 😂
Slippery slope fallacy.
The Interior Jaen classica >Strade
It’s a gravel race. Shouldn’t be on the world tour.