Got my Road King Special Stage 2 , 2022 with 8 miles on it last year, have a 447 cam, 100 hp 120 ft lb torque and I love it! Took it to NC over the summer, and it is flawless and it really rips
Glad to see that things are getting back to normal. At a metric dealer I saw a lot of popular models in the showroom that not so long ago would already be sold before ever reaching the floor.
Just bought a 2023 Road Glide Standard on Black Friday. They threw in a passenger backrest and heel shifter plus they were doing free stage one upgrades. Looked at some used one but they were almost as much as a new one and had around 20,000 on them.
Thanks for sharing Jerry, many thanks for your CZcams content in 2023. Looking forward to more in 2024. Best wishes from the south west coast of the island of Australia :)
Then get a Police R/K. All the chrome plus the 114 motor, RDRS ABS, traction control, hill hold, tire pressure monitoring, and all for thousands less than the civilian version.
@@motorman857Bingo. I'm actually going to be selling my 2009 RK police bike and my 2016 Road Glide and getting a newer used Police RK. Plus on the later models they brought the cable clutch back. I'm just a chrome guy. Can't help it. LOL
I could not believe how many low mileage nice bikes were available used in like new condition at my local dealer.... a great way to go and like you said Jerry if you paid for the mods it would cost a lot more on a new bike...
I wanna see Jerry on a Hyabusa now that would be a sight to see! What pisses me off about Harley is they discontinue the bikes I really like-The Roadster, Breakout and FXDR.
@@thanosetsitty1896 I can’t recall but I know they stopped selling them here in the states but still producing them for foreign markets? Supposedly they’re going to sell them again here in the US?
Because they'll cost even more than they already do. I've owned over 20 new Harley's and never found a reason to upgrade anything on them. You can buy any H.D. touring bike and right out of the showroom they are ready for a cross country trip. Many people simply like to personalize their bikes and every accessory you could want is available.
@@altec19 Yes. I considered buying a Indian Vintage. But only after they started putting the Vintage on the same frame as the Springfield in 2021. Prior to that, the Vintage had a very long wheelbase and rake. In 2021 they got it right and then stopped making it. What kept me from buying was the nearest dealer is 65 miles away and they don't pick up and return the bike when service is needed as Harley does.
I get emails all of the time from my local dealer trying to get me in there. I have a 2019 street glide sp with almost 96k miles. Was thinking about what the trade in value is gonna be at the end of next the yr. With the amount of miles I have I probably won't get much.
HD needs to bring back the Roadking Standard and drop their prices. Then I will make my purchase. Here in California used bikes are the same price if not more expensive than a new HD.
The R/K standard is still made. It's called an FLHP. I'ts thousands less than the civilian version yet comes with the 114 motor, ABS and RDRS. They are available in a wide variety of colors as well. Here's a link czcams.com/video/ifa1MGQW3yY/video.html
Thank you but what is the difference between Standard and police model, I’ve been to several dealerships no ones had ever even offered the Police version option. Thank you very much. So I figured I’ll ride my FXD Dyna to the ground.
Sucks that a lot of the good metric cruiser model lines are long discontinued, seems like buying a used 10+ yr old is the only way to not break the bank anymore
Price of insurance for test rides has caught up with some dealers. I was just at a HD dealer in NE Maryland, given the $1,000,000 + anual premimum per dealership, the owner has three, no test rides even on used bikes.
Lovely bike, but I'm with the other commenters who've no doubt already pointed out that $26k is still exorbitant in today's market, and that's putting things mildly. With Harley's decision not to sell their new middle-weights on the American market and their discontinuation of the 883, the brand will remain untouchable to those of us who aren't rolling in dough or comfortably retired. It's a genuine shame.
@@motorman857 - Fair enough, and thanks for the response. I should've more heavily emphasized the financial issue with Harley's in general. Yes, you can get a used Harley with (relatively) low mileage at a price that isn't totally bonkers in that segment, but the fact remains that Harley isn't a brand that's friendly to non-affluent riders. They do hold their value, and they're certainly wonderful machines, but the bang-for-the-buck just isn't there. I'd love to have a Harley in my garage, but it's difficult to justify what I'd likely be spending, and I'm a 31 year old middle-class dude without a family. All of that said, keep up the quality content!
Not likely. If the government keeps printing and borrowing money, the value of the dollar will keep going down and everything will continue to cost more.
I paid 28,000 OTD for a 2022 st when they first came out. I asked the dealer how much would I get for it on trade for s new CVO. 13,000.00. They said the market is dead.
Not enough people are "in the position to buy..." which is why Harley is drowning in bikes, new and used. I think prices may fall quite a bit further to clear out the glut.
I miss my hoggy. But some azzhole on a cell phone t boned me two years ago, distracted driving and I lost my leg. But I am mo quitter. I drive a three wheeler now. But I miss the two wheels so much. Lovely bike
Still dealer issues. U want to buy a used bike from my local dealer and pay cash, they won’t do it. MUST take a loan thru HD. Can pay it off with the first payment but still dealership games.😢
Man this SEER helmets are a pain to order ,, very confusing and this people want $510.00 ( not custom) just S2102TC,, no wonder why nobody wears this helmet out there.oh well. Anyway thanks Jerry,, I really appreciate all your videos.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
No one wears Seer helmets? Just about every police agency in the U.S. uses Seer helmets. Expensive? Yes. If you want a cheap helmet made in China, there are 100's available. Seer helmets are made in America and are very high quality. That costs more.
I don't think it's worth the money. You might get a 10th of a second off 0-to 60 times and 2 10th off a quarter mile time with a stage 2. That's not enough to feel a difference in daily riding or when passing. You'd get more performance by simply shifting at 5300 RPM's.
I too identify as 6 feet and higher, with 6 plus inches, and 6 figures a year. Ladies it’s time to take me as I am and I will get my group together to cancel anybody who disagrees with me.
Sure they do. Many years ago I worked at a couple of car dealers. Many times a manager would put too much money in a used car just to make a deal on the new car. That used car would sit in the lot until a bonus was put on it and if that didn't work, they send it to an auction and lose money just to move it. These days with a quick changing market with cars or motorcycles, It happens quite a bit.
I'll never shop for a harley from a dealership again. I went in ready to buy a bike for msrp, something that hadn't sold and was weeks away from being reduced in price, and was willing to pay msrp or hopefully less since the salemen said "they will move mountains for a well qualified buyer". After going through all the back and forth on test drives and price comparison, he tried to come back with a contract for msrp + $4,200! I asked him to explain this and he just kept circling the "free tire" deal. Literally was talking to me like I was stupid. The entire experience was so predatory I just hope that people less inclined to ask questions don't get duped for too much money but it seems like the norm for harleys. Buy from an individual or a consignment shop, I'd avoid harley dealerships at all costs.
My local Kawasaki/Yamaha/Royal Enfield dealer quoted me 2K TO 4K over list on all their bikes. When I asked why, they said they couldn't make any money at MSRP. There are APRX. 700 H.D. dealers in the U.S. When I'm shopping for a new bike, I google all the dealers that have the bike and color I want then pick up the phone and call them with a out the door price I'm willing to pay. I have my credit card in hand for a deposit and inform them that I'm recording the call to ensure the price doesn't change when I show up to get the bike. This method saves a lot of wasted time and I always get the price I want. Mainly because I do my research ahead of time.
@@motorman857 for sure your technique is well thought out and I'm sure works when you need to buy a bike. I know there are certain costs associated with buying from a dealership but the entire process left a sour taste in my mouth. Out of principal alone I will never give those places my money.
They give you squat for your trade,but want top dollar,and then some, for a new bike.Same strategy as car dealers,but worse with HD.It's been one sided like that for far too long.
While you may ''feel'' that way, the fact is Harleys are less expensive than they were 20 years ago and the are right in line with Goldwings, Indians and BMW's. Here's the facts czcams.com/video/dcn6kQKiR68/video.html
No such thing as buyer's market with Harleys. There's Dealers out there still charging three to five thousand dollars more than what the bikes are worth.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A buyer decides what any item is worth via, buying, or not buying. H.D. touring bike pricing is right in line with similar touring bikes as proven here czcams.com/video/2yIHTBopYUg/video.html
I've noticed all motorcycles are overpriced. So are cars, trucks, clothing, groceries, gas, homes, plywood, drywall, concrete, ammunition, and well, everything is overpriced. That's what happens when the government prints and borrows trillions of dollars.
Now I’m confused your last videos talking about how much used motorcycle prices have gone up and now you’re saying it’s a buyers market, so which one is it?
@@motorman857 he said in the last video before this one about being a buyers market you had said it was a sellers market how Harley Davidson had came up with raising their prices because motorcycles have gone up
@@steveledbetter9579 I couldn't make sense of your last comment. I hope this helps. When car and motorcycle manufacturers couldn't get the parts needed to deliver new vehicles, the price of used cars and bikes went up due to demand. So, if you were selling a car or bike at that time, you could get top dollar. Sometimes you could get more for your vehicle than you paid for it when it was new. That period was a seller's market. Now that the new supply has caught up and surpassed demand, the used market prices dropped very quickly thus making this present time, a buyer's market.
@@motorman857 what was the name of the last place you went to to ride that black road king at . I was wanting to check them out . I know it’s a new dealership .
Got my Road King Special Stage 2 , 2022 with 8 miles on it last year, have a 447 cam, 100 hp 120 ft lb torque and I love it! Took it to NC over the summer, and it is flawless and it really rips
I'm guessing they gave about 15K for it.Used bikes are the way to go......but from the owner.......don't buy anything from a Harley dealer 😏
You don't like paying "prep" fees? Lol dealers got to get rid of the bs fees.
Exactly. Let some other fool take the "new depreciation" hit.
Nope, they gave 17k for it….and if I had sold it I would’ve listed it for 22k
👍👍👍
I bought the same and traded my Ultra 2021 in for it. The 2023 RKS with 7000km on it, cost used in Holland….30.000€ ($33.000,00)
Nearly bought one of those, but once I jumped on the Indian Springfield Dark Horse, my mind was changed. 1 year later, no regrets.
Love the Rinehart sound on a Harley !! ❤ Keep up the good work Jerry!!
I identify at 6 two. Ha ha ha🤣🤣 I gotta use that one.
Glad to see that things are getting back to normal. At a metric dealer I saw a lot of popular models in the showroom that not so long ago would already be sold before ever reaching the floor.
Just bought a 2023 Road Glide Standard on Black Friday. They threw in a passenger backrest and heel shifter plus they were doing free stage one upgrades. Looked at some used one but they were almost as much as a new one and had around 20,000 on them.
Man, she sounds great when you crack the throttle on her. The's an awesome looking ride.
Thanks for sharing Jerry, many thanks for your CZcams content in 2023. Looking forward to more in 2024. Best wishes from the south west coast of the island of Australia :)
that bike looks new ;;; what a beauty ;;;
I'm old school and the Road King is my absolute favorite bike but one without chrome is blasphemy in my opinion. LOL
Then get a Police R/K. All the chrome plus the 114 motor, RDRS ABS, traction control, hill hold, tire pressure monitoring, and all for thousands less than the civilian version.
@@motorman857Bingo. I'm actually going to be selling my 2009 RK police bike and my 2016 Road Glide and getting a newer used Police RK. Plus on the later models they brought the cable clutch back. I'm just a chrome guy. Can't help it. LOL
I love the high gloss black
It's gorgeous and it doesn't rust like chrome after years of moisture
That's a cool roadking with the all blacked out look 😎🏍️ The mini app thick bars look good. Looks like it's got heaps of go too and sounds great.
Know someone who rides, you're never too old to learn more. I've had Jerry's DVDs for more than a dozen years and I still look to them to keep sharp.
Great bike, awesome sound. Great video.
$26k is more than I paid for a brand new Camaro in 2011. I paid $5k for a used Victory Vegas with 4000 miles on it. Now THAT was a steal of a deal.
Your Camaro in 2023 is 38K TO 65K now.
Wesley Chapel is a great dealership! Great video brother.
If Darth Vader rode a Harley it’d be this one.
Great looking/running/sounding scooter!
I could not believe how many low mileage nice bikes were available used in like new condition at my local dealer.... a great way to go and like you said Jerry if you paid for the mods it would cost a lot more on a new bike...
Most think they want the life, have the money to try and then find out it’s more than something we do.
I just did this last weekend. Almost same bike. 2022 RKS, only 2000 miles. Saved a bunch.
Congratulations on 300k subs!
Hi Jerry, got your usb and it's helped a lot. My local dealership here in Canada is flooded with bikes. This time last year hardly anything. Cheers!
I dig the road kings. That's a nice one.
Love my 21 Road King Special with the RDRS!
Nice bike thanks for the ride take care
Man, totally awesome ride 👍
That Road King is nice
I’ve got the same bike and plan to hold onto it a long time. Not doing much as far as mods, I don’t want to spoil the looks. 😅
We have some large HD dealers by us and I have never seen so many 2023s still in stock. I have no idea where they are going to put the 2024s.
@user-jl8yy5ir7s I agree - much better with higher rates. Encourages people to be more responsible with money - in theory.
Killer deal the used prices of HD bikes haven’t drooped to that level here in Ga
I'd love to own that! A little zipier than my stock 96ci.
I wanna see Jerry on a Hyabusa now that would be a sight to see! What pisses me off about Harley is they discontinue the bikes I really like-The Roadster, Breakout and FXDR.
Breakout is not discontinued.
@@thanosetsitty1896it was (in the states at least) but back out now.
@@thanosetsitty1896 I can’t recall but I know they stopped selling them here in the states but still producing them for foreign markets? Supposedly they’re going to sell them again here in the US?
I’ve got a 22 Road King Special and love it. Going to upgrade the motor with some stuff soon!
Why don’t Harley already upgrade the bikes at the factory before you buy them😆
Because they'll cost even more than they already do. I've owned over 20 new Harley's and never found a reason to upgrade anything on them. You can buy any H.D. touring bike and right out of the showroom they are ready for a cross country trip. Many people simply like to personalize their bikes and every accessory you could want is available.
@@motorman857 Have you ever considered buying a new Indian since you’ve owned over 20 new Harleys ?
@@altec19 Yes. I considered buying a Indian Vintage. But only after they started putting the Vintage on the same frame as the Springfield in 2021. Prior to that, the Vintage had a very long wheelbase and rake. In 2021 they got it right and then stopped making it. What kept me from buying was the nearest dealer is 65 miles away and they don't pick up and return the bike when service is needed as Harley does.
Omfg love that bike
All it needs is a windshield and I would marry that bike
just picked up a 15 road king, plenty of low mileage twin cam bikes ..
Nice Harley.
I get emails all of the time from my local dealer trying to get me in there. I have a 2019 street glide sp with almost 96k miles. Was thinking about what the trade in value is gonna be at the end of next the yr. With the amount of miles I have I probably won't get much.
Beautiful bike, but I would change those stupid looking handlebars.
HD needs to bring back the Roadking Standard and drop their prices. Then I will make my purchase. Here in California used bikes are the same price if not more
expensive than a new HD.
The R/K standard is still made. It's called an FLHP. I'ts thousands less than the civilian version yet comes with the 114 motor, ABS and RDRS. They are available in a wide variety of colors as well. Here's a link czcams.com/video/ifa1MGQW3yY/video.html
Thank you but what is the difference between Standard and police model, I’ve been to several dealerships no ones had ever even offered the Police version option. Thank you very much. So I figured I’ll ride my FXD Dyna to the ground.
@@razosfxdsuperglide2316 Here ya goczcams.com/video/ifa1MGQW3yY/video.html
I'm 5' 12", but identify as 6' 0". And, I'm a used model.
😅😊😂
Still too expensive.
Sucks that a lot of the good metric cruiser model lines are long discontinued, seems like buying a used 10+ yr old is the only way to not break the bank anymore
I just bought 2006 softail deluxe with 6,000 miles one owner for 6,500 looks new!!
Everyone complains about HD. I got the shaft by Honda/Kawasaki.
Price of insurance for test rides has caught up with some dealers. I was just at a HD dealer in NE Maryland, given the $1,000,000 + anual premimum per dealership, the owner has three, no test rides even on used bikes.
Lovely bike, but I'm with the other commenters who've no doubt already pointed out that $26k is still exorbitant in today's market, and that's putting things mildly. With Harley's decision not to sell their new middle-weights on the American market and their discontinuation of the 883, the brand will remain untouchable to those of us who aren't rolling in dough or comfortably retired. It's a genuine shame.
This 2022 R/K/ Special is 20K with 5K extras. New, this bike is over 30K with the same equipment.
@@motorman857 - Fair enough, and thanks for the response. I should've more heavily emphasized the financial issue with Harley's in general. Yes, you can get a used Harley with (relatively) low mileage at a price that isn't totally bonkers in that segment, but the fact remains that Harley isn't a brand that's friendly to non-affluent riders.
They do hold their value, and they're certainly wonderful machines, but the bang-for-the-buck just isn't there.
I'd love to have a Harley in my garage, but it's difficult to justify what I'd likely be spending, and I'm a 31 year old middle-class dude without a family.
All of that said, keep up the quality content!
@@unsungdrummer Two words. BUY USED. And be patient.
Was it hard to find neutral? It's very hard on my road King to find the neutral.
Hopefully prices on new bikes will become more attractive to the buyers. Times they are a changing.
Not likely. If the government keeps printing and borrowing money, the value of the dollar will keep going down and everything will continue to cost more.
I paid 28,000 OTD for a 2022 st when they first came out. I asked the dealer how much would I get for it on trade for s new CVO. 13,000.00. They said the market is dead.
Wow!
I had no idea it was that bad.
Harley is never a buyers market. I bought preowned and still got the shaft by Harley
Did they put a gun to your head? 🤣
Not enough people are "in the position to buy..." which is why Harley is drowning in bikes, new and used. I think prices may fall quite a bit further to clear out the glut.
$20K for a used Harley? The extras make it worth less for me. Good to hear we're starting to get back to normal.
Sounds like Harley power!
I miss my hoggy. But some azzhole on a cell phone t boned me two years ago, distracted driving and I lost my leg.
But I am mo quitter. I drive a three wheeler now. But I miss the two wheels so much. Lovely bike
Does the dealer toss in a Ride Like A Pro DVD with every purchase?
No.
Still dealer issues. U want to buy a used bike from my local dealer and pay cash, they won’t do it. MUST take a loan thru HD. Can pay it off with the first payment but still dealership games.😢
First view, first like, first comment.
🤘😎🤘
Man this SEER helmets are a pain to order ,, very confusing and this people want $510.00 ( not custom) just S2102TC,, no wonder why nobody wears this helmet out there.oh well. Anyway thanks Jerry,, I really appreciate all your videos.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
No one wears Seer helmets? Just about every police agency in the U.S. uses Seer helmets. Expensive? Yes. If you want a cheap helmet made in China, there are 100's available. Seer helmets are made in America and are very high quality. That costs more.
@@motorman857 exactly brother.. police agencies .
Hi Jerry I have a 21 Heritage stage 1 ,do I need stage 2 ?Ps I’m 65 yo .
I don't think it's worth the money. You might get a 10th of a second off 0-to 60 times and 2 10th off a quarter mile time with a stage 2. That's not enough to feel a difference in daily riding or when passing. You'd get more performance by simply shifting at 5300 RPM's.
@@motorman857 Thanks for your wisdom Jerry ,Happy Christmas to you and yours,also to contributors out there .❤️🏴🇺🇸
The bad part is the tax bill on used vehicles.
I too identify as 6 feet and higher, with 6 plus inches, and 6 figures a year. Ladies it’s time to take me as I am and I will get my group together to cancel anybody who disagrees with me.
Jerry the location in Miami for training is off dated.. I went to check on the website and the last class was in February 2021.
Have you tried contacting them? hmton@aol.com or Telephone: 305-804-4555
@@motorman857 not yet,, but I will
Did you say Wesley Chapel? Florida?
Yes.
@@motorman857 in going...from Ocala.
Dealers never loose money 😆, that I can't believe.
Sure they do. Many years ago I worked at a couple of car dealers. Many times a manager would put too much money in a used car just to make a deal on the new car. That used car would sit in the lot until a bonus was put on it and if that didn't work, they send it to an auction and lose money just to move it. These days with a quick changing market with cars or motorcycles, It happens quite a bit.
I'll never shop for a harley from a dealership again. I went in ready to buy a bike for msrp, something that hadn't sold and was weeks away from being reduced in price, and was willing to pay msrp or hopefully less since the salemen said "they will move mountains for a well qualified buyer". After going through all the back and forth on test drives and price comparison, he tried to come back with a contract for msrp + $4,200! I asked him to explain this and he just kept circling the "free tire" deal. Literally was talking to me like I was stupid. The entire experience was so predatory I just hope that people less inclined to ask questions don't get duped for too much money but it seems like the norm for harleys. Buy from an individual or a consignment shop, I'd avoid harley dealerships at all costs.
My local Kawasaki/Yamaha/Royal Enfield dealer quoted me 2K TO 4K over list on all their bikes. When I asked why, they said they couldn't make any money at MSRP. There are APRX. 700 H.D. dealers in the U.S. When I'm shopping for a new bike, I google all the dealers that have the bike and color I want then pick up the phone and call them with a out the door price I'm willing to pay. I have my credit card in hand for a deposit and inform them that I'm recording the call to ensure the price doesn't change when I show up to get the bike. This method saves a lot of wasted time and I always get the price I want. Mainly because I do my research ahead of time.
@@motorman857 for sure your technique is well thought out and I'm sure works when you need to buy a bike. I know there are certain costs associated with buying from a dealership but the entire process left a sour taste in my mouth. Out of principal alone I will never give those places my money.
Needs a windshield
They give you squat for your trade,but want top dollar,and then some, for a new bike.Same strategy as car dealers,but worse with HD.It's been one sided like that for far too long.
I don't see that "deal of the century" on the website 3 cd package for $20?
That's because it's 2 dvd's and the practice guide for 20 bucks plus shipping. Just as I stated in the above video.
It's there, here's the link, www.ridelikeapro.com/collections/books-merchandise/products/shortcuts-to-riding-like-a-pro-and-surviving-the-mean-streets-2-dvds
Got it! Thanks for the link, it was right there in front of me the whole time…haha
I trade every year
What bars are those?
Siouxicide Choppers 1-1/2" 10" Tall
Thank you
Prices on Harleys are going to fall even more
Harley davidson priced itself into non existence. Prices of hd are ridiculous.
While you may ''feel'' that way, the fact is Harleys are less expensive than they were 20 years ago and the are right in line with Goldwings, Indians and BMW's. Here's the facts czcams.com/video/dcn6kQKiR68/video.html
No such thing as buyer's market with Harleys. There's Dealers out there still charging three to five thousand dollars more than what the bikes are worth.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A buyer decides what any item is worth via, buying, or not buying. H.D. touring bike pricing is right in line with similar touring bikes as proven here czcams.com/video/2yIHTBopYUg/video.html
More of a market correction than a true savings; those bikes are grossly overpriced....
I've noticed all motorcycles are overpriced. So are cars, trucks, clothing, groceries, gas, homes, plywood, drywall, concrete, ammunition, and well, everything is overpriced. That's what happens when the government prints and borrows trillions of dollars.
Go price a Side x Side farm utility vehicle. Your Harley will feel like a bargain!
Looks good until the paint starts peeling
Uhhh, right, sure.
Now I’m confused your last videos talking about how much used motorcycle prices have gone up and now you’re saying it’s a buyers market, so which one is it?
I don't recall saying that. Give me the link to the video you're talking about.
@@motorman857 he said in the last video before this one about being a buyers market you had said it was a sellers market how Harley Davidson had came up with raising their prices because motorcycles have gone up
@@steveledbetter9579 I couldn't make sense of your last comment. I hope this helps. When car and motorcycle manufacturers couldn't get the parts needed to deliver new vehicles, the price of used cars and bikes went up due to demand. So, if you were selling a car or bike at that time, you could get top dollar. Sometimes you could get more for your vehicle than you paid for it when it was new. That period was a seller's market. Now that the new supply has caught up and surpassed demand, the used market prices dropped very quickly thus making this present time, a buyer's market.
@@motorman857 what was the name of the last place you went to to ride that black road king at . I was wanting to check them out . I know it’s a new dealership .
@@steveledbetter9579 Wesley Chapel Harley-Davidson.
8 or 9 hundred....lol....double that
I got a2020 RKS 131 Engine all led lights Harley se exhausted different handles bars I will let go for 21000
How do you like the 131? Was it worth the $
I have a 21 FLHX, 107,, just put in a S&S 475 cam,,, i love it,,, but cant stop thinking about the 131!
Is it also a buyers market on New Bikes Atwell as used bikes.. Cin-Cin and Salute 🫡👍✌️🫡💙