2020 Peugeot Boxer - Roadtest & Review | Vanarama.com

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
  • The question on everyone’s lips is… if the PSA Group are platform sharing across their small and medium vans… how long until they all get together on a large one?
    Well, right now that doesn’t matter too much because we’re standing next to a Peugeot Boxer large panel van at the Professional trim level which means excellent comfort levels to go with all that power under the hood!
    ( To check out our latest leasing deals on the Peugeot Boxer, click here: bit.ly/3INqr7a)
    Anyone who’s watched the Citroen Relay review we posted previously will be scratching their heads and wondering if it’s the same van… it looks it, but how it handles the Vanarama Road Test will show you it’s a completely different kettle of fish!
    Before we get started, we just wanted to take a moment to say that we hope you enjoy watching this review, and, if you do, please subscribe to our channel & click the bell to get notified when we post more content just like this.
    And don’t forget that if you’re ever in the market for a new van or pickup truck, head to Vanarama.com! Now, with that done… let’s get stuck in!
    Euro 6.2 Standard 2.2-litre BlueHDI Diesel Engine
    • Under the futuristic hood with the Peugeot badge on top
    • Check out those swept headlights - higher trim levels get LED running lights, but these Halogen bulbs are incredibly strong
    • Did you know that the front is broken up into 3 panels? That’s Citroen being clever so if one gets damaged you don’t need to pull the whole front off… just the panel that’s damaged!
    • Tough-wearing grille, durable plastics & metals.
    • Headlight clusters & fog lights below side scoops.
    • Huge visibility through the windscreen & Big aerial overhead.
    • Rough & tough durable interior.
    • Black plastics & hard-wearing fabrics - no-frills, this vehicle is all about work.
    • Steering wheel & dashboard instruments - big & easy to see.
    • Handbrake - other side of driver, & alerts sound if it’s not totally off.
    • Clipboard - WTF? Maybe put a picture of myself on the clipboard.
    • Infotainment demonstration
    • Gearstick placement - convenient & dash-mounted.
    • Cup holders and phone storage pod under gear stick.
    • Flooring - tough mats & plastics, non-slip.
    Back door height: 1.8m
    Back door width: 1.6m
    Load length: 3.7m
    Load height: 2m
    Load width: 1.8m
    Load width (arches): 1.4m
    Side door height: 1.7m
    Side door width: 1.5m
    Payload: Around 1500kg
    Some very compelling figures there and some real differentiators that set this vehicle apart from the competition… and speaking of the competition, let’s take a look at some of the other large vans available in the sector right now.
    First up, the Boxer platform shares with the Citroen Relay and Fiat Ducato so expect some strong if not very similar, performance in terms of being huge, powerful vans that return excellent running costs.
    Next it’s the Nissan NV400 / Renault Master / Vauxhall Movano - Another trio of platform sharing vans which means shared engines, similar loading bays, etc… but they might just edge out the previous platform sharers with their better cabs.
    And how about the VW Crafter? - Its Payload isn’t huge and neither is fuel economy, but it’s very user-friendly which is why it gets rave reviews from anyone who gets in it… us included.
    Ford Transit - there’s a new one on the way, but the current model is the best-seller for a reason. It makes some minor compromises on payload, but it’s the benchmark and best-seller for a reason.
    Mercedes-Benz Sprinter - it’s always sparring for the top spot with the Transit and is absolutely packed with tech. Fleet operators love this tough van and you might too.
    On big vans, you always pay a premium for the best performance… except with the Peugeot Boxer which is often available to lease at excellent monthly rental prices.
    So, how do we finish this one?
    Well, if you watched the previous review of the Citroen Relay, then how I sum up the Peugeot Boxer is going to come as no surprise.
    This vehicle is enormous, powerful, capable of carrying huge loads and returning low running costs. It’s tough, rough, and durable as you need from a workhorse vehicle.
    The PSA Group will no doubt be looking to centralise their large van platform into something that looks like a larger version of their small and medium vans… but until then, I’ll take these futuristic looks and excellent ROI in a heartbeat!

Komentáře • 107

  • @evmann1597
    @evmann1597 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I have a 2006 boxer, which i bought new. Its been excellent. 120000 miles with no major issues whatsoever. So impressed i went out last week and bought a new 2023 model..

  • @Minimeister317
    @Minimeister317 Před 2 lety +1

    I am just here cause I rented one for moving from one apartment to another. Thanks for the video.

  • @forza223bowe5
    @forza223bowe5 Před 4 lety +8

    I drive one, and everyone at work hates to drive them. I think the transit or sprinter are the top of the tree, when it comes to vans

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: You're not wrong on that count... sales alone on those other 2 are daunting. But... the Boxer is a lot of van for less money. I'd still choose it if you're a heavy user.

    • @forza223bowe5
      @forza223bowe5 Před 4 lety

      Vanarama It’s a decent van, but feels a bit dated overall. I do see a lot more Boxers and Ducatos than transits to be honest

    • @JasonMuayThai
      @JasonMuayThai Před 4 lety

      I’m on my second 2016 model 350L transit for work & they’re so good to drive

  • @Bottomrocks
    @Bottomrocks Před 18 dny

    Is it just me or this guy is funny 😂 we got some blank buttons and makes a face.. 😂 it's like the whole video is nothing but the positivity. The missing buttons is prob cause it's a cheaper model

  • @kawatzuki
    @kawatzuki Před 2 lety +2

    I drive it everyday at work. Its a beast nice acceleration , no problems with van basically
    the only problem here is the seat . Its not comftortable for long distances i think. Otherwise all good

  • @damian-795
    @damian-795 Před 3 lety +6

    I drive the minibus version. I had only ever driven Transit minibuses before which I love. This is terrible for seat postion and I cant find a comfortable place. I am tall and the floor pan is too high leaving my knees up. I have to raise the seat which means my head is very high and nearly touching the shelf above dash, and the seat does not go back far enough. Also the engine feels nowhere near the tranny and being front wheel drive is odd compared to the rear wheel Fords. Shifting from 4th to 5th does your back in , the gearbox rough and stiff. Transit has a car drive feel about it, this for sure feels like a van ( a bread van). Saying that there are things I do like, it looks nice and it should be reliable.

  • @pandemis
    @pandemis Před 3 lety +1

    Great review. One note. New Euro 6b Jumper(Relay) and Boxer share the same PSA engine, but not Ducato. Ducato has an Iveco engine which does not need adblue to meet Euro 6b. Not having adblue system is a huge cost saving feature.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 3 lety

      Tom here: Thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it. Ah, good point. Appreciate the callout there.

  • @americanrambler4972
    @americanrambler4972 Před 4 lety +4

    Have you had the opportunity to review and drive the American Ram Promaster version of this van? It has some significant differences from this Peugeot Boxer. It comes with a petrol Pentastar 3.6 L v6 with 280 SAE NET hp 3.6 L and 260 foot pounds of torque plus a fully automatic with lockup torque converter 6 speed transmission with a tow/haul mode. It also has a park position for the gear selector. Plus it comes with 16 inch wheels instead of the 15 inch wheels on this van. The seats are trimmed out a bit different with different arm rests, fabric covered head rests, driver and passenger front and side curtain air bags, and now a backup camera as standard equipment. It also has a large drink cup holder as standard equipment. Power front door windows are standard. The standard brembo 4 Wheel disk brakes are bigger than thin this vans. 4 wheel ABS and ESC are standard along with traction control. The Promaster gets the 270 degree rear opening doors as standard equipment. Plus since it’s over 80 inches wide, it gets roof mounted clearance lights. However, we are stuck with the previous generation bonnet and headlights. Like your current ones better.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: No, I haven't. But I'd love to get more diverse vehicles on the channel! I need me some more industry contacts!

    • @lotusgroup123
      @lotusgroup123 Před 2 lety

      But it isn’t available in the U.K...

  • @bmwdaywhatyouwant7679
    @bmwdaywhatyouwant7679 Před 4 lety +5

    I actually like the Peugeot Boxer, looks original, non generic and very fun to drive or live with. It should be cheap to maintain I suppose. Mercedes messed up with the new Sprinter, going all curvy. Whilst the VW crafter is jolly beautiful, it feels like it's a generic choice, everyone buys them along with the Sprinter. The renault master/vauxhall movano... don't know, maybe lack of identity in them?
    But yeah, I'd choose the Peugeot boxer because I want to avoid the herd of sheep that go for the German duo (mercedes and VW).

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety +1

      Tom here: I think you hit the nail on the head - lack of identity from some angles. Still have their plus points, and all of them have their fans. The Boxer's a workhorse. Tough as nails, in my book.

    • @forza223bowe5
      @forza223bowe5 Před 4 lety +2

      BMWdayWhatyouwant I drive a boxer and everyone at work hates them. The handbrake is very far down, and hurts your back when applying it. The electronics are terrible, numerous lights not working and constant door open warnings despite it being shut. When it rains, the dashboard reads 30 mph when stationary. Only good thing is the engines are strong and reliable

    • @bmwdaywhatyouwant7679
      @bmwdaywhatyouwant7679 Před 4 lety

      @@forza223bowe5 I agree with you, PSA engines are indestructible, but the electronics are very dodgy!

    • @bmwdaywhatyouwant7679
      @bmwdaywhatyouwant7679 Před 4 lety +2

      @@vanaramauk as we agreed, PSA engines are cockroaches, they'd probably survive an atomic explosion! But the electronics can be the only let down (similar to my Peugeot 807 which I had back then).
      Who said only Toyota build indestructible cars, aye?! 😂

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety +1

      @@bmwdaywhatyouwant7679 Tom here: Haha, too true.

  • @brutusoftroy2810
    @brutusoftroy2810 Před 4 měsíci

    I've spotted a blanking cover, I'm gonna make this motion because I've never heard of accessory options before😂 To drive they're good but to be a passenger those seats will give you a bad back, they're terrible.

  • @bobdobalina2931
    @bobdobalina2931 Před 4 lety +7

    The one thing you didn't really address in this video was is it tough and durable?

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: Or did I actually say it a lot? Haha

    • @karlgoldstraw
      @karlgoldstraw Před 3 lety

      Haha! I counted at least 10 tough and durables by 3:30.

  • @BoskiM
    @BoskiM Před 3 lety +2

    I find the screenwash is very difficult to get to even when using a funnel. I am referring to the 69 plate version don't know about the newer ones

  • @peter.russell
    @peter.russell Před 3 lety +5

    Wish you'd let us know if it's tough and durable 🙄

  • @UrbFoxFact
    @UrbFoxFact Před 4 lety

    check measurements everyone. this guy says the load width is 1m.80. that freaked me as i have just bought one and was told by the dealer that the interior width was 1m 87. i called vanarama and the guy i spoke to said it was about 1m 80......and then agreed that if i wanted an exact figure then it was 1m 87. 7cm makes all the difference if you plan to sleep in it sideways.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: Thanks Julian, good shout. I'll make sure to get the exact to-the-decimal measurements in there.

  • @gsw8734
    @gsw8734 Před 3 lety +2

    I prefer this over a Transit or Merc Sprinter. They are comfortable although the seating position is a bit weird but I am shorter guy so that isn't a major issue. It is also one of the most fuel efficient van's in its class.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 3 lety

      Tom here: Nice to see someone with a taste for a different van!

  • @nicholasfrend2923
    @nicholasfrend2923 Před 4 lety +3

    That looks like the old one new one out September 69 plate gos back to 2.2 cc engine on 3d one we get new ones every 3 years never had electronics problems satnav a bit slow sometimes and it seems to drive nicer .smoother on the rd must have changed damping

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: We've got a new one coming in soon - review to come. Lucky you getting a new one every few years - just like when you lease, drive, enjoy, upgrade, new van. Boom!

  • @noobydoo1
    @noobydoo1 Před 2 lety +2

    Ive been stuck in a lease with this van for nearly 3 years , very unreliable , pay a bit extra and get a transit , lot less stress

  • @gustaafjoris
    @gustaafjoris Před 4 lety +1

    Would be nice to see the Ducato getting a review. While the Citroen Relay/Jumper and the Peugeot Boxer are exactly the same, apart from the grill and the badges, the Ducato is a quite different animal: it has iveco-engines (PSA uses Ford-engines, I am told) and now a 9-speed automatic gearbox and a bunch more tech. Seems like Ducato is the better van, ordered one yesterday...

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: I'll get on to Fiat today to see what they can do for me. Funny thing is that I've never heard anything bad about Ducatos... you're the latest in a line of people telling me how good they are.

    • @angel3067
      @angel3067 Před 4 lety +1

      The boxer and jumper from 2015 onwards ride peugeot engines. Puma engines were eliminated as of 2014.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      @@angel3067 Tom here: Great knowledge.

    • @forza223bowe5
      @forza223bowe5 Před 4 lety

      Ángel 306 We have one at work, and it’s reliable in terms of mechanics but, electronics are crap

    • @angel3067
      @angel3067 Před 4 lety

      @@forza223bowe5 In general, today's car electronics are bullshit in any manufacturer. The more electronics a car has, the more susceptible it is to problems.

  • @forza223bowe5
    @forza223bowe5 Před 4 lety +4

    Very good on fuel, for such a large and heavy van

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: They really are. Really impressive vehicle.

    • @lopezben3023
      @lopezben3023 Před 3 lety

      ,
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      , NOT, NOT, NOT ... Peuge-NOT.
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    • @leefurniss
      @leefurniss Před rokem

      23 MPG motoway ? I've done 70 k in a 20 plate

  • @Bottomrocks
    @Bottomrocks Před 18 dny

    Tuff and durable yeah got it 😂 say it again 😂

  • @hanzokooijman3660
    @hanzokooijman3660 Před 2 lety +1

    Did you get paid per "tough" and "durable"?

  • @darrenmcgrogan8843
    @darrenmcgrogan8843 Před 4 lety +1

    2020? that's a 68 plate 😂 I'm back in my old 19 plate boxer at work. exactly the same as what your reviewing. excellent fuel economy considering its size and power, I believe mine is 130bhp. mine has the ANNOYING slam locks on the back which I hate! I like the layout of the interior, like you said it's very tough and nicely layed out. I dont however like the adjustment of the steering column nor the height adjustment of the drivers seat, I'm not going to lie, I'm what you could call a 'tall midget' lol so you can imagine there is a lot of stretching involved for me to manoeuvre the van 😂 the sat nav is a nice touch though not very reliable. stereo is very easy to use and very clear like you said. oh and the handbrake is in the wrong place 😂 fantastic reliability though, instant start up even on a cold start. I will put out that all my works 19 plate boxers all share the same flaw though, every now and then the immobiliser will kick in, simple disconnect the battery which is located inside the cabin under the removable floor panel , disconnect for 5 or 10 mins and reconnect, engine will fire up fine afterwards

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: Look at that, we're kindred spirits when it comes to the Boxer. A lot to like about it, a few little issues but they're mainly cosmetic - the engine is what brings me back. Surprising power.

  • @shane121
    @shane121 Před 4 lety +2

    Like the video but stop the music makes it hard to here what your going one about.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: Thanks for the feedback, I'll have a word with the producer.

  • @thenoworriesnomad
    @thenoworriesnomad Před 3 lety +1

    You mentioned a new Ford Transit is on its way, I know this video was done back in January so is the New Transit out or is it due out next year...

  • @asbeuro
    @asbeuro Před 3 lety +2

    i drove this , a crafter , a sprinter and a renault... by far this is the worst. seating position is horrible and the seat itself is made out of rocks... and very small... as for the quality... horrid. only plus of this van is the engine. better than a crafter but not as good as a reno or sprinter...

  • @ToxicVaccines_HivHoax
    @ToxicVaccines_HivHoax Před 4 lety +2

    The one thing I do not like about this van or it's identical twin the Citroen Relay, is that the 2 meters, ( H1) height option doesn't come as standard. You have to make a special order and wait 3 months for it to arrive.
    The H2 is too high for my liking. I do not want to be height restricted i case I have to drive in to a low height parking area.
    The whole Royal Mail fleet of vans are the H1 height. They managed to get H1 for themselves. The rest of us cant.
    Same thing goes for the back door. I much more prefer to have one big door at the rear that opens upwards, as it used to be.
    It creates a nice shelter in a rainy day and it is completely out of the way when opened.
    These two doors that open sideways are pointless. 👎👎

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety +1

      Tom here: Your complaints are shared by a lot of people. The H1s are very desirable.

    • @ToxicVaccines_HivHoax
      @ToxicVaccines_HivHoax Před 4 lety +1

      @@vanaramauk - If there are a lot of people wanting the H1 why doesn't the manufacturer make it more available?

  • @MHFFL8
    @MHFFL8 Před 3 lety

    Nice vid 👍

  • @lawrenceflanagan5037
    @lawrenceflanagan5037 Před 4 lety +2

    It may be durable etc,how do you know? 200k miles test?

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: Working for Vanarama, I get to see vehicles in all sorts of states. Believe me when I say that I've seen some old vans & Boxers tend to wear quite evenly.

  • @An.Individual
    @An.Individual Před 4 lety +2

    7:46 van doesn't have an Adblue filler

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: It was a purely illustrative turn of phrase.

  • @alveebabu
    @alveebabu Před 4 lety +1

    Right now im seating in peugeot boxer driver seat 2020 its runs Only 2000 km

  • @KiriakosAntoniou
    @KiriakosAntoniou Před 3 měsíci

    What is the loading bay on the L4H2?

  • @Carlo-a-life-less-ordinary-

    I drive a 2020 boxer- but no cd....
    I think you have model 2019...

  • @errorsofmodernism9715
    @errorsofmodernism9715 Před 4 lety +1

    when you said "let's take a look at the cavernous back end" I was afraid you were going to introduce us to your wife....

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: I see. Well, I've got three words for you: what me worry?

  • @leefurniss
    @leefurniss Před rokem

    I have a 20 plate from new, It broke down about 7 months ago and, Is still at the dealership now apparently & finally getting a brand new engine fitted due to eating engine oil for no apparent reason (Used one litre of oil per 200 miles) It had done 70k before It did breakdown on 3rd & final time, (Injector problem & using oil) and I can honestly say the van has crippled me during that time. The vans are pretty quick but noisy when running, there Is nothing else I could say Is good about the Boxer, I'm due to get this same van back with a new engine In the next few weeks and I'm dreading It, to the point of giving up my job due to the driving position.
    It's got to be the biggest pile of crap I've driven In my 49 year lifetime, I've nothing positive to say about the vans.

    • @leefurniss
      @leefurniss Před rokem

      There Is one good thing about these vans😁When It breaks down your company will hire you a transit or sprinter, because van hire company's don't buy Boxer's 👍

  • @derektodd4126
    @derektodd4126 Před 4 lety +2

    Hi, when do you think the new transit will be available as I will be changing later this year.

  • @An.Individual
    @An.Individual Před 4 lety +3

    Any option for an auto gearbox?

  • @eddedward2766
    @eddedward2766 Před 11 měsíci

    I had one of theses on lease for 3 years it was bloody awfull, spend the extra and get a transit.

  • @norwegianzound
    @norwegianzound Před 3 lety +2

    Cup holders are useless. Also they tell you that you can play music from your phone. You can't. Driving position is bad because you can't get reach adjustment for the steering. Lower dash impedes you clutch leg. What a mess.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 3 lety +1

      Tom here: What it proves is that everything comes down to taste. I admit the connectivity isn't class-leasing.

    • @ConnorBroomfield
      @ConnorBroomfield Před 3 lety

      ​@@vanaramauk I used to drive one of these vans and absolutely loved it. Found it really comfortable and I prefered it to drive over both the Transit and Crafter personally. I could play from Spotify through my phone with no issues and that was in a 2017 version, would be a shame if they have gone backwards there.

  • @Bottomrocks
    @Bottomrocks Před 18 dny

    Is this guy tweeking on camera?

  • @bobwhitton678
    @bobwhitton678 Před 2 lety

    How do you adjust the seat up and down

  • @An.Individual
    @An.Individual Před 4 lety +1

    these are 2.0l, not 2.2 as he keep saying

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: The version I reviewed was a 2.2-litre version before the range was simplified down to the 2.0-litre versions.

  • @toddino573
    @toddino573 Před 3 lety +1

    But is it tough and durable ffs????

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 3 lety +1

      Tom here: Yes, it is. I thought I'd made that clear...

    • @toddino573
      @toddino573 Před 3 lety +1

      Vanarama great review tbf.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 3 lety

      @@toddino573 Tom here: Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. :)

  • @michelobedhyppolite1008

    RWD or FWD ?

  • @Thecrazyvaclav
    @Thecrazyvaclav Před 4 lety +1

    Stupid trip computer,and nowhere to put a pen,other than that I like these vans,but the interior does need updating

    • @angel3067
      @angel3067 Před 4 lety +1

      The interior is one of the most complete that a van has.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: You're not wrong! It's about time to update.

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: I agree, but it is about time for a refresh.

  • @errorsofmodernism9715
    @errorsofmodernism9715 Před 3 lety +3

    you've sold me, I just bought a Ducato

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 3 lety

      Tom here: Cheers, Alfred. What you worry?

  • @karlhughes2496
    @karlhughes2496 Před 4 lety +1

    Is there under-seat storage?

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 4 lety

      Tom here: Indeed there is, under the bench seat.

  • @mildredbineau1371
    @mildredbineau1371 Před 2 měsíci

    😊.

  • @AliasUser9-5
    @AliasUser9-5 Před 6 měsíci

    1 question.. is this tough and durable? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @piotrogrodnik376
    @piotrogrodnik376 Před 4 lety +1

    Nie słodz bo ten boxer nie zmienił się od 2006r więc ma 14 lat jedynie kolor plastiku i radio jest inne a tak to stara nuda !!!!!!

  • @MikeWilliams-yp9kl
    @MikeWilliams-yp9kl Před 3 lety

    Why do you have your hand on your knob most of the time? BOTH HANDS ON THE WHEEL PLEASE

  • @gadois8674
    @gadois8674 Před 3 lety +3

    drop the awful and intrusive music please

    • @vanaramauk
      @vanaramauk  Před 3 lety

      Tom here: Ahhhh, but I like the music! Which bit did you find most intrusive?

  • @chrisdennison1475
    @chrisdennison1475 Před 2 lety

    Rubbish review, talking and reviewing a van that has really hasn’t changed in about a hundred years and talking like it’s new!!! Rubbish!!!

  • @marcinmario6455
    @marcinmario6455 Před 4 lety

    Po odbiorze fabrycznie nowego Peugota Boxer bluehdi 130km, odkręciły się koła z przodu. Samochód siciąga na prawo, biegi zgrzytaja podczas nawet podwójnemu wysprzęglania. Po 40tyś. km. i ok. 7 miesiącach rdza i korozja na nadwoziu . Naprawa przesz stację PEUGEOT i znowu rdza i korozja na już malowanych cześciach nadwoia. Blokują sie w przednim zacisku hamulcowym klocki, do wymiany tarcze i klocki, spalone. W niektórych samochodach pękły wały korbowe, silniki te już nie są oferowane w sprzedaży, są po prostu wadliwe. Bardzo drogi serwis Peugot, Fiat jest o wiele tańszy, bez adblue. Zdecydowanie lepsze są Fiaty Ducato ale i nie bez wad .

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    @emma8336409971 Před 8 měsíci

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