Learning from my mistakes/ Dating someone who is in the closet

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  • @BadArtVideo
    @BadArtVideo Před 11 lety +3

    I agree with this, BUT dating a person in the closet means that you have to be willing to go back into the closet when you are around him. He has to realize the stress it puts on you. You're a great guy Russ.

  • @b4804514
    @b4804514 Před 11 lety

    Russ Don't leave us hanging on this?? How did thinks go and how was the discussion after you guys thought about it. This is a complicated issue that needs some serious discussion and you are the guy. thanks

  • @ristin59
    @ristin59 Před 11 lety

    Everyone makes mistakes, leaning from them is important.

  • @allandsbrite9398
    @allandsbrite9398 Před 3 lety +3

    Russel, I am so moved by your emotion. This was an exceptional sharing of your personal experience. You are very caring.

  • @harrisbuzz
    @harrisbuzz Před 11 lety +3

    I have not dated anyone who is closeted, and I would not. Way too much grief. If they need time to come out that's fine. I'd think about dating them after that.

  • @poolejon100
    @poolejon100 Před 11 lety +1

    I like this video so much...You meant well by kissing your boyfriend -an ordinary enough act of intended affection and yet you have the ability to reflect on the action and recognise that it may have hurt him. Sooo thoughtful and so respectful of his feelings too.
    You have tremendous maturity and yet you can be fun too...a winning combination!

  • @DaneHill2
    @DaneHill2 Před 11 lety +1

    O_o Who the hell wouldn't want to show you off?? I'd be like, "F*ck yeah, this is my boyfriend, bitches!" and then start mad making out with you in front of them.
    In all honesty, yeah, that's a tough situation. I've dated a closeted guy before too. It wears on you. That respect goes both ways though, Russ. So I hope he's gaining the courage to open up to people soon and introduce you as the person in his life that you are.

  • @caseyl1467
    @caseyl1467 Před 11 lety

    you should be a therapist for real....this video was soo true!! and it lets others hear the emotions and problems that come from a closeted gay.. been there..and still there.. Thanks for the videos~!!

  • @RandolphAgarn1
    @RandolphAgarn1 Před 11 lety

    I also had to do these things while I was in the military

  • @michaelgiffey5108
    @michaelgiffey5108 Před 11 lety +4

    I agree with the minority opinions here. I have never dated someone who was closeted, and I never dated a man when I was closeted. If you are in the closet don't date. I am sorry, if that means you never date because you never come out, so be it. I was not with anyone until I was in my 30's because it would not have been fair to the other person. If you are attracted to a person who is closeted, I am sorry and this sounds harsh, but find someone else to be with.

  • @mikedennington8856
    @mikedennington8856 Před 11 lety +1

    yes life is too short to mess around with people we are not compatible with.
    Learnt a LONG time ago that being gay is stressful enough without dating folks who add to that stress.
    Happiness to you.

  • @16331117
    @16331117 Před 11 lety +5

    It will be great when we do not have to "come out"!

  • @mmmVIEWER1
    @mmmVIEWER1 Před 11 lety +1

    don't beat yourself up over it bro

  • @hidmh1
    @hidmh1 Před 11 lety

    i know how you feel its horrible to see that person out when there not ready :) :/

  • @dleimkuehler
    @dleimkuehler Před 11 lety +1

    Great and kind advice Russ as always love ya, and thank you so much for serving our country!!!! Davidxx

  • @ZachariahGreggs
    @ZachariahGreggs Před 3 lety

    I am late to the party, by 8 years, I don't know how this rough worked out for, but I have recently followed your post's, you appear to be honest and compassionate, and heart felt in your explanation of the past situation. Here's to hoping all is right in that regard, it just touched me watching that post, ✌

  • @jaimebecket3209
    @jaimebecket3209 Před 2 lety +1

    Its okay to be in the closet , what is not okay is to play with people fellings , having a girlfriend, and dating , having sex with guys. I think this type of closeted guys deserve no respect at all

  • @mmmVIEWER1
    @mmmVIEWER1 Před 11 lety

    Obviously this is something you have thought a lot about. A big man makes mistakes by admitting them and teaching through them

  • @mattalex653
    @mattalex653 Před 11 lety

    I know this is very late, obviously, but either way, I am still sorry to hear that this happened. I do, however, have a question. I am new to this channel (just started watching today) and have not yet seen all 65 videos, but i'm on my way there. SO if you've answered this before, sorry.
    Was this person Matt?

  • @brecans
    @brecans Před 11 lety

    I'm out but I have to admit that when I was in the closet there was an exciting side to it.

  • @xonxing
    @xonxing Před 11 lety

    This video came out of nowhere. One of my friends asked me yesterday was getting advice from me about coming out because his bf was pressuring him to come out. And I told him that he shouldn't be pressured but it might be the best idea to come out. So I, his friend, put that pressure on him and watching this made me realize that it was wrong of me to do that. And that his bf should be more understanding. Thanks Russ.

  • @csreiter
    @csreiter Před 11 lety

    I think the point of the video was that he understood he made a mistake...

  • @dr211x
    @dr211x Před 11 lety +2

    Hey man, I like your videos. Thanks for sharing your experience!
    While the events that unfolded in the party were unfortunate, I hope you guys are able to work it out and realize it wasn't malicious.

  • @velocapistrano1163
    @velocapistrano1163 Před 11 lety

    Obviously.. I was pointing out that he should be careful!

  • @plyihcky247
    @plyihcky247 Před 11 lety

    Eggcellant Advice. Compassionate and Honest !

  • @delightglow
    @delightglow Před 11 lety

    You are so sensitive and understanding. I hope your boy friend appreciates you and knows you kissed him without thinking. You mentioned there was drinking at the party. If you had a drink, it lowers your inhibitions and you are more likely to act on your feelings. You're an amazing man, just remember that fact.

  • @RickC927
    @RickC927 Před 11 lety +1

    Been there done that....but here is the BIG problem with trying to date a guy who is still closeted. You wind up getting dragged back into the closet with him. I am happily married to a husband now, but back when I was single, I learned one major rule, I would never date any guy who was still closeted. Being gay is challenging enough without having to be put back into the closet. I respect people taking time to come out, I just chose not to get romantically involved with someone still closeted.

  • @Junomaster2006
    @Junomaster2006 Před 11 lety

    I felt bad that I had to lie to my friends. I am in the closet and I actually had a fake GF who agreed to come out to meet my friends with my BF. We would make up story that my BF and my fake GF were brother and sisters. When introducing my fake GF to my friends at Buffalo Wild Wings, my BF sat 2 seats away from me. I would feel so bad about that since I was not ready to come out and that he would just sit and eat in the corner quietly.

  • @Manx36
    @Manx36 Před 11 lety

    I don't even understand " coming out". If I were heterosexual I wouldn't go around announcing it. I understand some people need to do it but I never felt the need. I live my life and anyone that knows me knows I'm gay but not because I announced it. I just live my life and what other people think just doesn't factor into my world.

  • @thisisuncomfortable
    @thisisuncomfortable Před 11 lety

    You are so adorable, and it is so heartbreaking watching this video. We all make mistakes and I hope it all worked out man. I'm sure he knew you weren't trying to out him, you just made a mistake. It's very hard when you love someone and you have to hide it. ;(

  • @MoKing89
    @MoKing89 Před 11 lety +1

    My bf was in the closet. He came out to his family very soon in our relationship and that meant a lot to me. That meant he was serious about our relationship. I hope your bf can see that. Love is more powerful than losing homophobic friends.

  • @geopowered
    @geopowered Před 11 lety

    I can see how awful you felt about this, but I bet you didn't do it on purpose. It's very difficult to put yourself back into a closet for someone else after all the hard work you did to make your way out. Meanwhile, it's also very important for the closeted man to come out when he's ready and not before. That's why I really don't recommend dating closeted men. I understand that you can't always help how you feel, but It almost always ends in disaster one way or the other.

  • @jorgejacobo7359
    @jorgejacobo7359 Před 6 lety

    1) give them time;
    2) be understanding (he's under a lot of pressure);
    3) let them come out in their own time;
    4) have a cover story for his friends/family;
    5) learn from your past experience;
    6) no PDA;
    7) no outing via words or actions;
    8) don't rob him of choice to come out;
    9) don't pressure them to come out;

  • @andrewmiller8646
    @andrewmiller8646 Před 10 lety +4

    And your definitely hot in my eyes. Keep your head held high and remember that if he truly loves you he will come around.

  • @louis-philippechouinard6817

    I disovered your channel yesterday and I like what you're doing so far. Thank you!

  • @timmiller7680
    @timmiller7680 Před 9 lety +13

    thank you for serving in the military

  • @sloanx5202
    @sloanx5202 Před 2 lety

    My boyfriend is an ex marine and currently in the closet with most everyone in our lives besides his family. But we never see them? Idk. He calls me his cousin to everyone we actually see and hangout with so it sucks majorly.. he also refuses to show me legit any sort of affection or anything if we are not in a locked down house….

  • @AndrewMefford
    @AndrewMefford Před 11 lety

    You are both so cute and I am so happy you found someone that makes you happy! I hope you both have a wonderful and awesome life together.

  • @gjohnmac
    @gjohnmac Před 11 lety

    You're a good kid... be the best example of an "out" man and he will uncover his strengths and bury his fears...

  • @jgnmtz
    @jgnmtz Před 11 lety +1

    Russ you are so amazing. You liked this guys so much , you wanted to show him a sign of normal affection (barring our crazy religous zealot society, that we solely left england to escape ironically) , and you were able to reflect on what your actions did to your boyfriend and his coming out. I hope he understands . PS Is this Matt who you are currently engaged? Best to you both and have a great week.

  • @tipofmytongue1024
    @tipofmytongue1024 Před 11 lety

    I'm dating a bisexual who's in the closet, we've been together for 4 years. It is stressful, but the wonderful times we do have together is worth it. I thank you for this because it's like how can you keep something that makes you want to explode or scream inside hidden? It's so liberating being OUT that I take it for granted.
    I literally wanted to confront him about it, but this video came upon my attention. Thank you. You're an amazing person.

  • @ShrewdEmpath
    @ShrewdEmpath Před 11 lety

    We certainly didn't date, but we never did it or anything either so for a short time I may have been involved with a closeted guy w/o realising it. Looking back he seemed to have a problem with me meeting his friends and it's obvious that his (African) parents kept going until they had a (gay) boy... I feel a little silly for not connecting the dots :D. He didn't act particularly closeted, talked about gay topics, but who knows?

  • @bluecollarjob
    @bluecollarjob Před 11 lety

    unless he is very generous....?

  • @davidridgeway83
    @davidridgeway83 Před 10 lety +1

    What you said....everyone makes mistakes, we are all not perfect....but please don't worry, you and your boyfriend will be fine, you are a good person Russ, you deserve to be happy snd you will be happy. Your video's and your story mean so much to so many people, you are the best....sending love from France.xxxxxx. Davidxxxxxx

  • @Stephenrsm7600
    @Stephenrsm7600 Před 11 lety

    Russell, could see you were visabley see you were hurting from you mistake. Appreciate you sharing your story so others might not do the same thing. Bravo.

  • @shungangrockstar
    @shungangrockstar Před 6 lety

    I was jusy in this situation... She fucking broke up with me when we were almoat celebrating our 3rd anniversary :'( she said she realized she can't fucking fight for me after all the understanding and fighting that i did for her. I'm so fucking broken i gave her morethan my 100percent, no limit for her just to please her... pure bullshit. Now I'm having a hard time moving on it hurts so bad

  • @cristinasujoy
    @cristinasujoy Před 11 lety +6

    This video broke my heart, you looked so sad... It is such a joy seeing you so much happier now that you are with Matt, wish you the best!

  • @Labyrinth1959
    @Labyrinth1959 Před 11 lety

    This was clearly a painful experience for both parties. You show deep emotions in this vid that most men are not willing to show. That tells me a lot about you. You are easily hurt and are very sensitive to the feelings of others. Any man that catches you will be very lucky, I just pray that he is as true and good as you.

  • @MrMarkerBarker
    @MrMarkerBarker Před 11 lety

    I have the opposite problem actually, my exbf is totally out and I am only partially out... I kissed him in the middle of a crowd and he kinda flipped shit. Thus us not being together. Lol Good luck with life man

  • @italianman1982
    @italianman1982 Před 11 lety

    Never be a dirty little secret

  • @ianport2185
    @ianport2185 Před 11 lety

    Well done for this video. You made a good point so very very well. Enormous admiration for you! Ian

  • @pathfinderdoc
    @pathfinderdoc Před 11 lety

    Hi iam in the british army as a surgeon and i was at a ball when my b/f kissed me best day of my life.

  • @rjbob50
    @rjbob50 Před 11 lety

    Russell: There's no way this is your fault, dude. Matt knew u were popular, cute, easily made friends, and he was looking for an easy way to get into gay life in AFG & Bragg, hoping u wouldn't be as out as you are. Maybe a naïve marine(him) was using you to get in the gay club? Russ, only live 30 miles from you in Cincy, & know best weapons
    to take out a mortar, & you better not get a scratch, little Hoosier! Stay safe, Russ. Rob
    Elsaesser, Cincinnati, OH. 45248

  • @ShelzJ
    @ShelzJ Před 11 lety

    Wow and now you are engaged. So glad it all worked out because you guys are perfect for each other

  • @alexmalaspino4450
    @alexmalaspino4450 Před 3 lety

    Good luck. I hope it works out for you and your boyfriend

  • @willardmcmorris9702
    @willardmcmorris9702 Před 10 lety

    just from the title/ i knew what i was about to hear- been there done that- you are a great story teller | and i hope your not beating yourself up too much!! Russ it is alright, life goes on, if only someone would have told me that 40 years ago!!!U R awesome x

  • @adrianocoelho1
    @adrianocoelho1 Před 11 lety

    A questão nem é o que as outras pessoas irão pensar e sim o quão a vontade com a própria sexualidade os dois estão. Se ele ainda possui amigos que não sabem que ele é gay e vocês passam por situações assim. Desculpe, mas o problema não são eles. Não entendo realmente essa questão de estar "meio" dentro do armário, ser "meio" gay a partir do momento que se assume tem que ser tudo e para todos, somente. Bjo, Adriano Coelho - Brazil.

  • @mentar
    @mentar Před 11 lety

    The fact that you mentioned nothing about what it's like for you not to be able to show your love for your boyfriend, because he was closeted, speaks a lot about you as a person. You also didn't throw in "but I was drunk" excuse. Good people like you are hard to come by, it's good that you have the willingness to post these videos and share your experiences with others

  • @lawrence5584
    @lawrence5584 Před 11 lety +1

    This is a thorny issue I've dealt with on more than one occation. And you're right, coming out is a personal thing and no one has the right to force you into it. That being said, a closeted person has no right to force you back into the closet for their convenience or comfort. Once is enough, the second time is unbearable. Hence why I live by a credo. Closeted? We can be friends, but that's it.

  • @Jmhfl7
    @Jmhfl7 Před 11 lety

    that has happened to me as well.... eventually he got over it. when there is love, there's always a solution :)

  • @arrychave5058
    @arrychave5058 Před 3 lety

    Relevant content even now! Thank you for being so honest and open in all of your videos . You are potentially an LGBTQ+ pioneer! And for that we say "Thank you"

  • @marktubeie07
    @marktubeie07 Před 11 lety

    I just subbed to your channel Russ. You are A1 in my books & my opinion of you has just gone through the roof after this video. You are mature beyond your years! I have now watched ALL you vids so I need to know, as far as this video is concerned, an update on where you are now with that guy if you don't mind. How'd it work out..? Cheers from Australia.

  • @mrAZcardinal
    @mrAZcardinal Před 11 lety

    Dang Russ, I'm sorry to hear that man. :\ That would be rough. I wish you two the best.

  • @dashric
    @dashric Před 11 lety

    I had a relationship like that except this was late 90s, so neither of us were out. I go more in to this in my Coming out story. I want to talk about the mistakes in that relationship in a video but I don't know if I could keep composure.

  • @derekalexander2120
    @derekalexander2120 Před 11 lety

    "Get hold of you"?!?!?!? ---- I wish - lol. We've all been there where we have been dating/seeing a hot as fuck guy who is scared to death of kissing you in public, or even holding hands. You are so mature - you put me to shame, even although I know how hard it was to come out to my parents. After them (and they already knew BTW) - I came out to anyone who was there lol (and they already knew too!!).... This video should be shown in schools xx. You are awesome xxx

  • @billg94
    @billg94 Před 3 lety

    Hey Russell. I get it. Your sadness and regret are so tangible. I hope your boyfriend sees that as well. Also, you had been drinking so it seems what you did was not intentionally done to hurt him but an expression of your feelings for him. I hope he gets that as well. I dated a guy I was very in love with. He was out to his friends but not his family ( his brother was also gay which complicated it all and they had determined that not telling was the best thing to do). Eventually his hiding such an important part of himself from his family eroded his love for me and destroyed our relationship.

  • @ShrewdEmpath
    @ShrewdEmpath Před 11 lety

    LOL that sounds scandalous.

  • @rdiac1
    @rdiac1 Před 11 lety

    Ouch. This was obviously kinda traumatic if you're posting still affected by it or after a few drinks..

  • @seanfl33
    @seanfl33 Před 10 lety

    It goes to show that actions have consequences. Still, at least you've learnt a lesson.

  • @simbaon17th
    @simbaon17th Před 11 lety

    I had a relationship with someone I liked a lot end because of the closet. The weird thing was that I could deal with him being closeted (this was 25-years ago and we all had to deal with that reality, then) - no, the thing that ended our relationship was that he could not deal with the fact that my parents were so accepting of him. He was so afraid of his own parents that he could not deal with mine accepting him.

  • @jeremyvanderford2472
    @jeremyvanderford2472 Před 11 lety

    HI! Russ, I just subscribed to your video blogs! I've watched a lot ot them, and just really enjoy them. You really do seem like a great guy. I just watched the "Dating a closeted guy" one. I personally haven't dated very many guys, but I do know that I couldn't date one that was still closeted. I never really was closeted myself, I just can understand that situation, it would just suck! LOL

  • @like123ism
    @like123ism Před 11 lety

    You have taught me a lot

  • @harnessboots
    @harnessboots Před 11 lety +1

    It's so sad that you feel so bad for loving and kissing a man that you love. Yes I understand the part about being scared of coming out but you didn't do it maliciously. So now you have to feel regret because you love him? This really doesn't bode well for a long term relationship an honest relationship and a loving relationship. Sorry just my opinion. Because he's in the closet he's shoving you back in the closet how fair is that?

  • @brandonhabarta7139
    @brandonhabarta7139 Před 11 lety

    this was a really good topic, and I could tell it was hard for you, and your a really good person to share you story..hope all worked out..keep on saveing the world russ...one gay at a time : )

  • @brecans
    @brecans Před 11 lety

    Yeah but true------------------something the out and loud brigade will never admit to lol.

  • @reanreid2183
    @reanreid2183 Před 6 lety

    It's not easy dating someone in the closet. My fella of 6 years is in the closet. I'm struggling to make the relationship last. I will never out him as I know it's hard for him. But 6 years....is a long time and I don't feel I have the strength to keep fighting 😔

  • @saycredheart
    @saycredheart Před 10 lety

    Russ you may not notice this or get a reply
    But I have been consistent viewer back at 2013 but got busy and havent checked out your channel for a while I am really not used to watching you alone nor without you talking about matt and seeing you guys together. I really wished it worked out because you got engaged! I couldn't have even imagine that would happen to someone when you thought he's the one but it turns out it was wrong. I tried looking for answers on to how things went wrong and this video was the closest.
    Oh well, at least now you moved on I guess specially even another breakup with your recent boyfriend.
    Take care russ! You'll find Mr. right don't you worry!
    PS i hoped you didn't delete all your videos specially from russ and everything your viewers have watched and enjoyed from the past

  • @AngloAm
    @AngloAm Před 11 lety

    So what was the outcome?

  • @jrsinger78
    @jrsinger78 Před 11 lety

    Been there, painful.

  • @missuniworld
    @missuniworld Před 11 lety

    100% CUTE, MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

  • @southernboycookin5383
    @southernboycookin5383 Před 6 lety

    I haven't seen anything from you lately, Russ. And, I don't remember watching this vid before: but, yeah, that was a dick move, man. Heh. I'm going to say it was pure Marine mentality. I dated a Gay Marine once heh.

  • @andrewmiller8646
    @andrewmiller8646 Před 10 lety +1

    Russ I just saw this video and I got to say this to you. If your boyfriend loves you then he will forgive and get on with your relationship. I know it's hard to come out of the closet but it has to happen sometime. You seem like an amazing guy and if you were my guy I would not be afraid to show my love for you infront of people. Your partner needs to make that decision to wether he wants to move on or not but if he chooses not to then that's his problem cause you are great

    • @kevinsouthwell5244
      @kevinsouthwell5244 Před 3 lety

      Andrew Miller I married the love of my life and have never looked back I am gay and will never think enytining than I love him so much

  • @shokolate9
    @shokolate9 Před 11 lety +4

    If I was in the closet and you started dating me, I'd come out and scream to my mom "LOOK MOMMY! I BAGGED A GOOD ONE!" :P but I'm so out it doesn't even matter lol

  • @ronsantiago9736
    @ronsantiago9736 Před 11 lety

    Don't you want me baby!

  • @DavideMazzetti
    @DavideMazzetti Před 6 lety

    Ironic isn't it - as gays, we belong to one of the most discriminated against groups in the world - and then we do the same thing to members of that same group.

  • @YourGodLoki
    @YourGodLoki Před 11 lety

    i used to date a USCG commander who was in the closet it was horrible wotn ever date another liek that again

  • @mav48185
    @mav48185 Před 8 lety

    I've been talking to this guy from the army. i honestly think he's in the closet. he's so distant with me. I dont know what to do anymore

    • @rayblack8
      @rayblack8 Před 6 lety

      Let it go. Because if he really wanted to be with you, closet or no, he would find a way to make it happen. Even if it were just for the sex.

  • @FurkanKhan100
    @FurkanKhan100 Před 11 lety

    a surgeon u say?

  • @limsinger
    @limsinger Před 11 lety

    Aw... you look so guilty... :S hope it resolved itself.

  • @KiltedTechie
    @KiltedTechie Před 11 lety

    at 0.1 when your forming the word Russell, it looks like your are preparing for a kiss. that is so hot.

  • @tesolonaki
    @tesolonaki Před 11 lety

    Hi Russell, like all your videos.. love the one of your house, and this one as well. You are so sweet and a very nice guy, very handsome and smart. Like that so much. I'll love to be your friend man! Take care and hope to know from you. Tommy

  • @irocz72
    @irocz72 Před 11 lety

    Agree with you. But, still, you did something that a person in a relationship would normally do, but for the homophobia that exists in the world. So maybe you shoukdnt have done that- but you weren't so very wrong to want to. but

  • @Tiofilusif
    @Tiofilusif Před 8 lety +5

    hope to see you with your boyfriend together you seems like a humble sexy gentlemen

  • @TheDavidcalle
    @TheDavidcalle Před 10 lety

    ur sooooo adorable i can't even

  • @velocapistrano1163
    @velocapistrano1163 Před 11 lety

    WAIT.. You knew he wasn't complety OUT yet you gave him a kiss in front of everybody. You said there was 200 people there, some ya knew and some ya didn't know. I think you put him and yourself in danger but pulling that stunt..
    HEY, I'm a prior active duty Marine and totally understand how it is BUT it is not wise to do things like that. What if some breeder would have went Ape Sh*t and went cray?
    BTW I know this video is was made two months ago :)

  • @KaiserFailed
    @KaiserFailed Před 11 lety +3

    Dating someone who's still in the closet...?
    Aint nobody got time for that. lol

  • @tommyusesit
    @tommyusesit Před 11 lety

    If I were your bf, I might do the same.
    Sorry for saying that.

  • @tommyjones9536
    @tommyjones9536 Před 8 lety +2

    ok, no offense, but that was a really dick move.. btw thanks for your contribution to the military..

  • @MARKSINGLETARY51200
    @MARKSINGLETARY51200 Před 11 lety

    Im in love with my best friend Steven Cannon. He is the love of my life.

  • @dragoncomunity
    @dragoncomunity Před 11 lety

    uncool dude!!!!!