Dude, on behalf of all Marauder owners... THANK YOU! I can't express the agony i felt not being able to start my damn bike every morning and having to jump it off my car. Once i removed that moron box, the bike immediately started in 35 degree weather with rain pouring down on it. I'm almost in tears i'm soo happy.. thank you sir.
So I have owned my bike for about 5 years now and have had this problem for all of it. Talked to the previous owner and he had the same problem. Just finished removing the MMM and it starts perfectly. Thank you for the trick.
I went on to do this and the bike started up on first try. I turned it off and again started up on the first try. Even easier way is to cut all three wires off the harness, strip the two yellows, cap them, tape it, tape the ground in, tuck it away, I had the hardest time stripping the wires, used a sharp steak knife to cut into the wire.
That is a good point...That is why I wrap them all the way to the wire with electrical tape. I hate but connectors, they never hold (crimp tight enough) for me.
Hey bud have a question I just picked up a 1997 marauder and it kinda taken apart and was wondering if you could show me the position on where the fuel pump and Petcock is suppose to mount
@tycho1975 it should be on the left side under the plastic frame cover by the seat. ...If you still are unsure go to (migcruisersdotcom) and ask in the forums. I am a member there and there is a wealth of knowledge and a lot of people with 97 that would know...
This there an option to just replace it instead of cutting the wires? Anyone know the part to order? I tried finding it under Mitsuba RK-0313 Starter Relay, but can't find the part that looks like this.
What if you do this and the button still doesn't work but it's been tested button is fine can jump solenoid turns over but still will not crank what could it be
My 97 Marauder is running terrible. I installed new plugs and it ran good for about 70 miles but gradually started missing and hesitating and actually cutting out again. I think it's a coil problem, not sure. I'll find out though. As for starting, mine starts quickly always, though it sometimes will crank very slow like the battery is weak, but it fires and runs quickly anyway. I'll leave my MMM thingy there factory unless it gets much worse. Great video btw.
Keith Landry no, mine continued to foul the front spark plug. tried new coils, wiring, cleaned the carbs, which is a bad job. Finally gave up, took it to the local dealer, told them what it was doing, and traded it in on a new Honda ctx700n. I love it.
your going to have to replace your starter button over and over again because all the pover is being pushed through the button by jumping it. from experience!
+Peer S. Hansen they cause a slow start and just make it harder to start. if you go out with this still connected on the bike it does almost like a start then stop over and over again. removing it makes it start like any other bike.
But: what is this relay for? Why it is in our bikes? Because every piece that the bike has, is there for a reason…. Can anyone explain us which is the function of this small box in the bike? Thank you!
Having replaced, the stator, the battery, the starter relay, the rectifier this was the thing that worked. What a strange decision by Suzuki to have included this !
The mystery box does have an incredibly important safety job of preventing to start the bike without having a clutch pulled... 🤦♂️ Seriously though, what a stupid device. Manual transmissions cars do not have such safety mechanisms so why would I need them in a bike? If I want to drive forward with a starter motor only I should be able to if I damn feel like it, even if it wouls wreck it. 😅
I will give you the answer. The MMM real name is Starter control relay ... Not starter relay (the real starter relay is next to it with the 2 fuse in it.) Its purpose is to protect the circuit of overheating or (over cranking the starter) the key power that action the stater relay goes through it in case of over heating or leftover power in the starting system it ack as a ground (dump). Just like the electricity panel in your house when something overheat the breaker ''jump'' . the control relay does the same thing by dumping the juice in the ground. Its very fragile and old school starter that use brush take no time to ask more amp then the usual 25-50. unless your a tool that crank a bike until smoke comes out of the starter which in that case something is wrong.. i see no problem in removing it. the system is still protected by the 2 fuse. but for emergencies i would have spare fuse.
I laid my bike down haven’t been able to get it to start since bought new starter new battery and new spark plugs could this be my problem really need my bike for work if anyone is still active on here lol
i THINK its supposed to be a safety so you dont overhead the starter or relay. what we REALLY notice is all it seems to do is make your battery sound dead LOL this video is the same result of ANYONE who does it. better than buying new batteries/starters of you dont have to
well the proper relay is named "starter control module" its made by Mitsuba by we have no idea what it actually does besides make you think your battery or starter is dead LOL so we call it the Mystery Mitsuba Module remove it and your bike will start much easier and not beat on your battery so badly
Dude, on behalf of all Marauder owners... THANK YOU! I can't express the agony i felt not being able to start my damn bike every morning and having to jump it off my car. Once i removed that moron box, the bike immediately started in 35 degree weather with rain pouring down on it. I'm almost in tears i'm soo happy.. thank you sir.
13 year old youtube clip saved me some money today, thank you :)
Iv always had bikes that fired up straight away. This marauder is breaking my heart. Thanks for info ima get this done tomorrow.many thanks
So I have owned my bike for about 5 years now and have had this problem for all of it. Talked to the previous owner and he had the same problem. Just finished removing the MMM and it starts perfectly. Thank you for the trick.
i just got an old '97 and I'm going to do almost all the things you're doing! ;) THANKS!
I just did it on my '02 Marauder. Works fine. I'll be testing for now on. Thanks
I confirm that this does in fact fix the issue, thanks brah!
Awesome. I just did this to my 99.
Twinkle twinkle little VROOM!
I went on to do this and the bike started up on first try. I turned it off and again started up on the first try. Even easier way is to cut all three wires off the harness, strip the two yellows, cap them, tape it, tape the ground in, tuck it away, I had the hardest time stripping the wires, used a sharp steak knife to cut into the wire.
Just did it today. No longer haunted by unexplained SHITTY STARTS! thank you.
muito obrigado, mariner brazilian.
Done 5 min awesome thank you..
If this fixes my issues i think i`ll shed a tear.....
That is a good point...That is why I wrap them all the way to the wire with electrical tape. I hate but connectors, they never hold (crimp tight enough) for me.
Gotta buy high quality ones
Fuck yeah!
Hey bud have a question I just picked up a 1997 marauder and it kinda taken apart and was wondering if you could show me the position on where the fuel pump and Petcock is suppose to mount
is there a correct way to fix this issue? other than running the wires together? that's what someone did on my bike.
does anyone know what the green pigtail connector runs to by the fuse box?
A big thank you! Works great!!
@tycho1975 it should be on the left side under the plastic frame cover by the seat. ...If you still are unsure go to (migcruisersdotcom) and ask in the forums. I am a member there and there is a wealth of knowledge and a lot of people with 97 that would know...
This there an option to just replace it instead of cutting the wires? Anyone know the part to order? I tried finding it under Mitsuba RK-0313 Starter Relay, but can't find the part that looks like this.
Get some marine epoxy and fill the cap, waterproof and if you ever need to replace just clip behind
What if you do this and the button still doesn't work but it's been tested button is fine can jump solenoid turns over but still will not crank what could it be
What color wires????
My 97 Marauder is running terrible. I installed new plugs and it ran good for about 70 miles but gradually started missing and hesitating and actually cutting out again. I think it's a coil problem, not sure. I'll find out though. As for starting, mine starts quickly always, though it sometimes will crank very slow like the battery is weak, but it fires and runs quickly anyway. I'll leave my MMM thingy there factory unless it gets much worse. Great video btw.
did you figure out what it was my 98 is giving the same headaches
Keith Landry no, mine continued to foul the front spark plug. tried new coils, wiring, cleaned the carbs, which is a bad job. Finally gave up, took it to the local dealer, told them what it was doing, and traded it in on a new Honda ctx700n. I love it.
your going to have to replace your starter button over and over again because all the pover is being pushed through the button by jumping it. from experience!
Was this a no spark issue repair?
no problen in the future with this ?
What exactly is the reason for removing the mmm? Thank you for all your tutorial videos, they are very helpfull
Stop the slow starts. It worked for my bike.
+Peer S. Hansen they cause a slow start and just make it harder to start. if you go out with this still connected on the bike it does almost like a start then stop over and over again. removing it makes it start like any other bike.
That means that the starter relay is bad! Why not replace with a new one??
But: what is this relay for? Why it is in our bikes? Because every piece that the bike has, is there for a reason…. Can anyone explain us which is the function of this small box in the bike? Thank you!
Just did this has anyone noticed any long term effects from not having the mmm
yeah, my bike starts every time LMAO
mines been gone a while. NO ill effects
Having replaced, the stator, the battery, the starter relay, the rectifier this was the thing that worked. What a strange decision by Suzuki to have included this !
The mystery box does have an incredibly important safety job of preventing to start the bike without having a clutch pulled... 🤦♂️ Seriously though, what a stupid device. Manual transmissions cars do not have such safety mechanisms so why would I need them in a bike? If I want to drive forward with a starter motor only I should be able to if I damn feel like it, even if it wouls wreck it. 😅
What is the purpose of the module, that is slows the cranking...?
I will give you the answer. The MMM real name is Starter control relay ... Not starter relay (the real starter relay is next to it with the 2 fuse in it.) Its purpose is to protect the circuit of overheating or (over cranking the starter) the key power that action the stater relay goes through it in case of over heating or leftover power in the starting system it ack as a ground (dump). Just like the electricity panel in your house when something overheat the breaker ''jump'' . the control relay does the same thing by dumping the juice in the ground. Its very fragile and old school starter that use brush take no time to ask more amp then the usual 25-50. unless your a tool that crank a bike until smoke comes out of the starter which in that case something is wrong.. i see no problem in removing it. the system is still protected by the 2 fuse. but for emergencies i would have spare fuse.
THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT...!
I laid my bike down haven’t been able to get it to start since bought new starter new battery and new spark plugs could this be my problem really need my bike for work if anyone is still active on here lol
What does this relay do? If a jumper works? I dont get it?
What's an mmm?
Dose this work if you lost your key to your bike
Absolutely, no key would be needed ever again.
Why would you do this in the first place ?
i THINK its supposed to be a safety so you dont overhead the starter or relay.
what we REALLY notice is all it seems to do is make your battery sound dead LOL
this video is the same result of ANYONE who does it. better than buying new batteries/starters of you dont have to
What MMM stands for?
well the proper relay is named "starter control module"
its made by Mitsuba by we have no idea what it actually does besides make you think your battery or starter is dead LOL
so we call it the Mystery Mitsuba Module
remove it and your bike will start much easier and not beat on your battery so badly
LTDemian what is the mmm sensor