The answer is a big YES Bryson. 😀💯. It will be interesting to see when most of the American working class realize this. You can have capitalism and social security at the same time. Scandinavia is a proof of that. ❤️🇸🇪🇫🇮🇸🇯🇩🇰❤️ You are soooo welcome to us
Even just the fact that you paid your 'debt' to society a long long time ago and it still prevents you to get hired for certain part time jobs goes to show how messed up the country is.
21:36 what to do with your time off? Get a tent and go to the forest. Or redecorate your house. Or go skiing. Or go visit Japan. I'm going to Toronto next week.
It's always fascinating to watch your videos and get your perspective, I truly enjoy to you as well as other like minded U.S. citizens on CZcams. I only wish more Americans would open their eyes like you've been doing this past year or so. Then we'd have a chance to see some actual changes. But I'm worried that it won't happen in our life time, which is a bit depressing. I also agree with the others here that you shouldn't be a second class citizen just because yoǘ've made mistakes in your past, no one is perfect we all make mistakes. Equal opportunities for all no matter their background that should be the American way. I hope you get to enjoy your holiday in Scandinavia and I hope you'll be able to have many more "long" vacations, so you can get to see more of Europe and the world in general :) Wishing you all the best from Denmark take care Bryson
Do not tell the others in the USA, that they are living in a Karl Marx-ian society, of the worst possible scenario! 🤣 It might cause an uproar!? 😱 What happend to all that 'freedom'? Bryson, it truly is time to move to Europe, also considering your job prospects. I'm pleased that your employer has given you a chance at overtime...but only bc your past, blocks any alternative (which sucks!) Time is flying, May will soon be here! hello from Denmark 🌸❄
Second Thought would be pretty centrist in most of Europe. It is not very radical stuff he is talking about. Karl-Marx was more so analyzing runaway capitalism during the ages up until the industrial revolution than giving a clear answer to how to tackle it. It was left as a vague idea of giving the workers more power, however it was pretty important to make the common man think about society. For this reason about 50 different leftist variations arose afterwards. Everyone in Europe since the 1950's have known that the American Dream of working yourself up through the ranks to success is false and stupid. It is why there is such a gigantic middle class in France, Germany, UK, Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Belgium
I wondered what had happened to Labor Unions in the USA - as freedom is a selfevident value for Americans, isn't it? Can employers forbid workers to join the union in their work-place, can employers in the USA sack workers for joining the union? I watched czcams.com/video/RxhOF1D2fpo/video.html but need further information. Is the Democratic Party against unions? Really? Can you call that democratic? Unbelieable...
"Alienated" I heard, and thought: this is not a text by an "USAian" of today - but maybe a labour union organizer from the UK. And well - it was Marx, it turned out. He and his companion Engels wrote far-reaching texts with modern ideas, most of the times not anything horrifying per se. They had a heart for the people who worked and worked and hardly had time to sleep and had precarious situations when it came to food and shelter. They saw it as a "system" - how things worked in an impersonal way. How many of the situations and consequences weren't willed in all aspects, but still "fit" within that machinery. A machinery that it was very difficult to escape. That's why Marx wrote his analyses about how the capital permeated almost every thing by its system.
The greatest thing the capitalism has ever reached was to tell the workers they are no workers anymore, they are all middle class now, and worker is just something ugly and bad that nobody wants to be. And so all those "middle class" people now think they are not far away from the capitalists and have way less in common with the ugly workers, and so of course they don't need to care about worker rights, no worker rights are bad because they want to steal you your middleclass house, or maybe its only a 5 x 5 meter cell where you live in ? No matter its a middle class cell and workers want to steal it, say NO to workers.
@@beldin2987 Yes, only with smearing work, workers, and labor unions, could the oppressing of workers be continued. To a very rich upper-class is a very poor under-class a pre-condition. To make people work so hard they need to be (made) afraid of loosing their job and so their place to sleep in security. The labor unions stood up to defend the needs, the rights, the demands of the work-force. Of course labour unions have been harrassed, forbidden, bought up, etc - every tactic has been used against them somewhere in the history of the workers. Something is obviously wrong with the state of the labor unions in the USA, but I don't know their history too well. I'll go and see if Second Thoughts has something about that...
@@DNA350ppm I recently saw someone writing that in the end the US also still suffers from the whole anti-communism propaganda from the McCarthy aera and has never really recoverd from that. But as a german i also don't know too much about that, but it sounds quite resonable. I mean it seams already that only if someone uses the word "social" most americans already think that is bad, so associal is good then ? That alone is already so messed up and thats also maybe the big problem that needs to overcome, but will maybe never happen before the next big civil war. Seriously as an outsider i have often the impression you are right before it, its not only the racism that you have mainly white against black, but now its also even men against women where it just needs a small spark to explode. But in the end, as long as its not poor against rich, the riches just sit there watch them do what they do, and after them tell them "hey guy, time to go to work again, and because all the civil war shit you now need to work twice as much" 😂😂
@@beldin2987 Everyone who cannot hold two thoughts combind in their brains, much less 5-6, have done great harm in the discussions. That's true of some rigid ideological communists, too. Then we get down to simple stupid dicotomic arguments asking people are you *for* or *against* the USA or the Soviet Union. If asked that badly my answer is YES! 😁
@@DNA350ppm See problems are that Employers hold Healthcare insurance Are Given them power not should hav are like Lose work for sick get so lose work lose To afford get healthy are to me Mindblowing and of only give you 38 hour not need give healthcare insurance at all Are like hold you hostage for if got healthcare not can change work for that it self can force workers work more for so afraid When hate you're work but that force you to be great like a slave See other part Mac Donalds workers get low paid and servers live on Tip and on Sweden are Mac Donalds work are Union Comectove agreement and actually Work there get 5 week wekation 18 month parent leave are Paid actually after Union and Employer agreement for on Sweden we not have a low pay Goiverment has nothing to do with how much paid get are Unions deal wit Employers set Sallury and you can actually have a apartment and pay rent and bills with that job and love alone on USA sane company are not afford rent a room are rather wierd how Ab American company have afford pay workers here more than do in USA and not say are bigger for Is all over EY and live 450 million in EU and 329 million in USA so We may have different systems 27 ones but We got rights 🤔 When say tax and take more Pay for Burgers are not true either for You see price and on that pay 8% tax + 20% tip so pay 28% more Than price See so are about same price in end but we do not Tip for Higher price see are that pay no tax or tip when bill come for include in Price and pay workers for Who belove of think about it Mac Donalds workers Not work hard enough so not Worth a pay actually afford live on something are really broken if look down on worker for Think Max Donalds workers are Few get more shit from customers and They work harder and all shit need to take and are look down to after 10 hours shift expect them have time search for Otver work are same do in Wall Mart and so on are Line Mac Donalds 200 billion$ profit in USA not afford Pay workers more Wall Mart even more profits How can Mac Donalds Exist in Sweden Denmark Finnland Norway Germany France and so on for Afford pay Workers here but not in USA are you Less Wotrthy ❓🤔 Same Medicine's How do Pfizer's Survive when Inhaler I have cost 12$ exact Same Inhaler cost 150$ in Arizona got price from one live there wonder Every month 150 $ and that is Insurance are like Youre Life's are not value a lot are treat you like Low value people how do Inhalor in Canada be in our price and You pay 10 times more Sane company American Company Are actually For Astma die if not get medicine Sane Insulinet are Free here for all ages no cost and are actually Profit do 12$ include pen do Profit in here are Taxes pay but are profit for If get insulinet can live a ordinary life and pay taxes so are cheap medicine and taxes those use it pay more than cost alone for all users so Are actually Line this here in Sweden Doctor give Recept for medicine and Drugstores are Get you Cheapest version in same Medicine fore here are Medicine companies do inhalors are same So Regions buy Cheapest so that company give cheapest That but so Here are Capitalism For are like playbook of capitalism Medical companies are Compete Too eachothers What USA have are some version of Corrupt socialist For are Even done a occupation of corruption call Lobbyist work for Companies that For get elected in USA must Get bought for get money enough for if not get millions Can not get elected so are actually Have a system that curupt politics even before get elected We have Taxes Parties support so elect them for What ell not get it right but bot get elected next time if not do work should and have more parties in that bot all get what they want in That but a lot more get something for parties big need smaller for get majority so they get something and that Not allow do bussnies of are Gouverment so must get some to guard those have in that time in gouvern so are not private companies pay Election we rather use taxes for not corupted for are Better way for can Get elected for Who are and what line do and Lobbyist here are corruption call it so we have Wellfair state but not think It work like you think it do But not perfect but way better than you're Systems for What I wonder you just need to look to Canada for see how bad you're Companies treat you are actually When people need to chose short there lies for not afford treatment if get sick . Americans Pay from income tax More than any other country on Earth to healthcare system And yet must pay insurance and Get a vill when get pout are 3 times pay we pay 1 time Think about that you pay more from taxes Too healthcare Than any other country on Earth only Takes so Why do all rest get Healthcare cover all Exepty you for you must pay a private insurance and yet get to pay a lot on way out are Rather confusing if believe get better For are Reason cost more are for Wait to so so h so need emergency 9 of 10 times cost be very small if afford se doctor direct when start feel bad That alone Pay for all Healthcare for all of people went to doctor when cheap treat so are not cost tax pay or anyone else note are cost less if had healthcare for all that is way cheaper you get it so wrong in that and like do in so much more You are treated veryvporly and Biden are one seem to understand that Stop listen to Republican side 13 million work Biden create he is take home a Brand you not seen in many decades Bsrnds name are " Made in USA' That is side I had voted on if where American for That is Bennifit you Biden want Union work and want tak away healthcare from employers and Unions care for that instead so afford change work and in that force You're companies actually pay you more if want you to stay so sound bit better than what have Today he are actually want you to afford educate you're self also So He is Who should vote for he are actually Invest in Repair Roads Bridges better internet and so on for Inflation you had he never thought get his build USA better throigh so when fight about vill he made a deal with EU and got companies build in USA so You're inflation Been Overheated economy Biden Got to much So Money need He fight line hell for You should be invest in Not Rich grab all are that Maga Trump and those so angry about that actually are you all spend all money on Was Drbth Seeling was about Pay you're bills and Spend money on you all he plays Republican 2 years can Chill down economy on you all Biden are actually Supriced me in Way do it for American people inside USA are invest and he is very smart Old maybe Trump 4 year older not younger fat and just Jail go are a criminal all court wait all gouilty of doing so He are not do anything Just talk Biden done a lot no other presiden have created more work in 4 years what he already done just listen to wrong side 🤔
Not getting for part time job here in NZ after you have done your time it is not held you doing anything that anyone else can do you can vote in elections borrow money to buy a car or a house you are just one of the rest of us.
Yes, I think its a fair critisism of USA, especialy working conditions. Then a swift kick in/to Marx, he was a philosopher, a pupil of Hegel. Hegel thougt that it was ideas that make people/countrys to be successful, but Marx put Hegel on his head and belived that it was peoples/countrys living/economic situation that adapt any ideas. IE, he reveald that there is differen classes in a society, that got different ideas, this is the standard modell today. In anyway, I think that at least a quarter of Nordic, German, Irish population emigrated to USA, when there was famine in Europe, it was "The promised land", kind of biblical proportions. There was free land, no population, (exept indians) and one could be a self made man, there was only oportunitys.. if one was a farmer! Some ended up in "Sweden Hollow" anyway? And to compare USA and Europe is difficult, even if one only take EU countrys! EU want a minimum wage in whole EU, Nordic countrys woting against, we dont have legislated mini wages, but we have instead legislation that promote/force collective agreements/promoting both labor unions and company unions to, negotiate and cooperate! They still have low wages at MC-D in sweden, but its still higher then in USA, and its by there branch agreement, age, experience, responsebility gives a rise. And the company pays mandatory 33% on top of there salary, to the state for pension and healt security! Its this, after the famine and exodus, nordic countries was the poorest in whole europe, there was almoste no rich elit to rule! So we have to do it ourself, building our countrys frome the bottom up! Farmer unions, to start cooperativs, dairy and other food processing industries, company unions that trigerd labour unions, monopolies that trigered consumers cooperative stores, free churches and IOGT/NTO (non alcoholic movment) was altso very active! You can try the Nordic modell in USA.. its juste this, you first need to be the poorest country in america and build your country frome scratch!
The answer is a big YES Bryson. 😀💯. It will be interesting to see when most of the American working class realize this.
You can have capitalism and social security at the same time. Scandinavia is a proof of that. ❤️🇸🇪🇫🇮🇸🇯🇩🇰❤️
You are soooo welcome to us
Even just the fact that you paid your 'debt' to society a long long time ago and it still prevents you to get hired for certain part time jobs goes to show how messed up the country is.
Nice, a new video. Will watch it after I get home from work. How fitting. Greetings from Germany!
21:36 what to do with your time off?
Get a tent and go to the forest. Or redecorate your house. Or go skiing. Or go visit Japan.
I'm going to Toronto next week.
It's always fascinating to watch your videos and get your perspective, I truly enjoy to you as well as other like minded U.S. citizens on CZcams.
I only wish more Americans would open their eyes like you've been doing this past year or so. Then we'd have a chance to see some actual changes. But I'm worried that it won't happen in our life time, which is a bit depressing.
I also agree with the others here that you shouldn't be a second class citizen just because yoǘ've made mistakes in your past, no one is perfect we all make mistakes. Equal opportunities for all no matter their background that should be the American way.
I hope you get to enjoy your holiday in Scandinavia and I hope you'll be able to have many more "long" vacations, so you can get to see more of Europe and the world in general :)
Wishing you all the best from Denmark take care Bryson
Thank you greatly & hope you have a wonderful day!! 😁
@@itsmebrysonp Likewise
Do not tell the others in the USA, that they are living in a Karl Marx-ian society, of the worst possible scenario! 🤣 It might cause an uproar!? 😱
What happend to all that 'freedom'?
Bryson, it truly is time to move to Europe, also considering your job prospects.
I'm pleased that your employer has given you a chance at overtime...but only bc your past, blocks any alternative (which sucks!)
Time is flying, May will soon be here!
hello from Denmark 🌸❄
Second Thought would be pretty centrist in most of Europe. It is not very radical stuff he is talking about.
Karl-Marx was more so analyzing runaway capitalism during the ages up until the industrial revolution than giving a clear answer to how to tackle it. It was left as a vague idea of giving the workers more power, however it was pretty important to make the common man think about society.
For this reason about 50 different leftist variations arose afterwards.
Everyone in Europe since the 1950's have known that the American Dream of working yourself up through the ranks to success is false and stupid. It is why there is such a gigantic middle class in France, Germany, UK, Denmark, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Belgium
You clearly havent listened to his podcast, JT is very left leaning along w yugopnik and hakim
Great vid and super interesting to hear your thoughts on different subjects
I Missed you!
Marx is so unbelievable valuable in understanding capitalism and How our world works, its crazy
I always liked the george carlin quote "that's why they call it the American DREAM, because you have to be asleep to believe it"
I wondered what had happened to Labor Unions in the USA - as freedom is a selfevident value for Americans, isn't it? Can employers forbid workers to join the union in their work-place, can employers in the USA sack workers for joining the union?
I watched czcams.com/video/RxhOF1D2fpo/video.html but need further information.
Is the Democratic Party against unions? Really? Can you call that democratic? Unbelieable...
I feel bad for your problems because of something that happened years ago.
I hope to see you in Finland making some videos!
"Alienated" I heard, and thought: this is not a text by an "USAian" of today - but maybe a labour union organizer from the UK.
And well - it was Marx, it turned out. He and his companion Engels wrote far-reaching texts with modern ideas, most of the times not anything horrifying per se. They had a heart for the people who worked and worked and hardly had time to sleep and had precarious situations when it came to food and shelter. They saw it as a "system" - how things worked in an impersonal way. How many of the situations and consequences weren't willed in all aspects, but still "fit" within that machinery. A machinery that it was very difficult to escape. That's why Marx wrote his analyses about how the capital permeated almost every thing by its system.
The greatest thing the capitalism has ever reached was to tell the workers they are no workers anymore, they are all middle class now, and worker is just something ugly and bad that nobody wants to be. And so all those "middle class" people now think they are not far away from the capitalists and have way less in common with the ugly workers, and so of course they don't need to care about worker rights, no worker rights are bad because they want to steal you your middleclass house, or maybe its only a 5 x 5 meter cell where you live in ? No matter its a middle class cell and workers want to steal it, say NO to workers.
@@beldin2987 Yes, only with smearing work, workers, and labor unions, could the oppressing of workers be continued. To a very rich upper-class is a very poor under-class a pre-condition. To make people work so hard they need to be (made) afraid of loosing their job and so their place to sleep in security. The labor unions stood up to defend the needs, the rights, the demands of the work-force.
Of course labour unions have been harrassed, forbidden, bought up, etc - every tactic has been used against them somewhere in the history of the workers.
Something is obviously wrong with the state of the labor unions in the USA, but I don't know their history too well. I'll go and see if Second Thoughts has something about that...
@@DNA350ppm I recently saw someone writing that in the end the US also still suffers from the whole anti-communism propaganda from the McCarthy aera and has never really recoverd from that. But as a german i also don't know too much about that, but it sounds quite resonable.
I mean it seams already that only if someone uses the word "social" most americans already think that is bad, so associal is good then ? That alone is already so messed up and thats also maybe the big problem that needs to overcome, but will maybe never happen before the next big civil war. Seriously as an outsider i have often the impression you are right before it, its not only the racism that you have mainly white against black, but now its also even men against women where it just needs a small spark to explode.
But in the end, as long as its not poor against rich, the riches just sit there watch them do what they do, and after them tell them "hey guy, time to go to work again, and because all the civil war shit you now need to work twice as much" 😂😂
@@beldin2987 Everyone who cannot hold two thoughts combind in their brains, much less 5-6, have done great harm in the discussions. That's true of some rigid ideological communists, too. Then we get down to simple stupid dicotomic arguments asking people are you *for* or *against* the USA or the Soviet Union. If asked that badly my answer is YES! 😁
@@DNA350ppm See problems are that Employers hold Healthcare insurance Are Given them power not should hav are like Lose work for sick get so lose work lose To afford get healthy are to me Mindblowing and of only give you 38 hour not need give healthcare insurance at all Are like hold you hostage for if got healthcare not can change work for that it self can force workers work more for so afraid When hate you're work but that force you to be great like a slave
See other part Mac Donalds workers get low paid and servers live on Tip and on Sweden are Mac Donalds work are Union Comectove agreement and actually Work there get 5 week wekation 18 month parent leave are Paid actually after Union and Employer agreement for on Sweden we not have a low pay Goiverment has nothing to do with how much paid get are Unions deal wit Employers set Sallury and you can actually have a apartment and pay rent and bills with that job and love alone on USA sane company are not afford rent a room are rather wierd how Ab American company have afford pay workers here more than do in USA and not say are bigger for Is all over EY and live 450 million in EU and 329 million in USA so We may have different systems 27 ones but We got rights 🤔
When say tax and take more Pay for Burgers are not true either for You see price and on that pay 8% tax + 20% tip so pay 28% more Than price See so are about same price in end but we do not Tip for Higher price see are that pay no tax or tip when bill come for include in Price and pay workers for Who belove of think about it Mac Donalds workers Not work hard enough so not Worth a pay actually afford live on something are really broken if look down on worker for Think Max Donalds workers are Few get more shit from customers and They work harder and all shit need to take and are look down to after 10 hours shift expect them have time search for Otver work are same do in Wall Mart and so on are Line Mac Donalds 200 billion$ profit in USA not afford Pay workers more Wall Mart even more profits How can Mac Donalds Exist in Sweden Denmark Finnland Norway Germany France and so on for Afford pay Workers here but not in USA are you Less Wotrthy ❓🤔
Same Medicine's How do Pfizer's Survive when Inhaler I have cost 12$ exact Same Inhaler cost 150$ in Arizona got price from one live there wonder Every month 150 $ and that is Insurance are like Youre Life's are not value a lot are treat you like Low value people how do Inhalor in Canada be in our price and You pay 10 times more Sane company American Company Are actually For Astma die if not get medicine Sane Insulinet are Free here for all ages no cost and are actually Profit do 12$ include pen do Profit in here are Taxes pay but are profit for If get insulinet can live a ordinary life and pay taxes so are cheap medicine and taxes those use it pay more than cost alone for all users so Are actually Line this here in Sweden Doctor give Recept for medicine and Drugstores are Get you Cheapest version in same Medicine fore here are Medicine companies do inhalors are same So Regions buy Cheapest so that company give cheapest That but so Here are Capitalism For are like playbook of capitalism Medical companies are Compete Too eachothers What USA have are some version of Corrupt socialist For are Even done a occupation of corruption call Lobbyist work for Companies that For get elected in USA must Get bought for get money enough for if not get millions Can not get elected so are actually Have a system that curupt politics even before get elected We have Taxes Parties support so elect them for What ell not get it right but bot get elected next time if not do work should and have more parties in that bot all get what they want in That but a lot more get something for parties big need smaller for get majority so they get something and that Not allow do bussnies of are Gouverment so must get some to guard those have in that time in gouvern so are not private companies pay Election we rather use taxes for not corupted for are Better way for can Get elected for Who are and what line do and Lobbyist here are corruption call it so we have Wellfair state but not think It work like you think it do But not perfect but way better than you're Systems for What I wonder you just need to look to Canada for see how bad you're Companies treat you are actually When people need to chose short there lies for not afford treatment if get sick .
Americans Pay from income tax More than any other country on Earth to healthcare system And yet must pay insurance and Get a vill when get pout are 3 times pay we pay 1 time Think about that you pay more from taxes Too healthcare Than any other country on Earth only Takes so Why do all rest get Healthcare cover all Exepty you for you must pay a private insurance and yet get to pay a lot on way out are Rather confusing if believe get better For are Reason cost more are for Wait to so so h so need emergency 9 of 10 times cost be very small if afford se doctor direct when start feel bad That alone Pay for all Healthcare for all of people went to doctor when cheap treat so are not cost tax pay or anyone else note are cost less if had healthcare for all that is way cheaper you get it so wrong in that and like do in so much more You are treated veryvporly and Biden are one seem to understand that Stop listen to Republican side 13 million work Biden create he is take home a Brand you not seen in many decades Bsrnds name are " Made in USA' That is side I had voted on if where American for That is Bennifit you Biden want Union work and want tak away healthcare from employers and Unions care for that instead so afford change work and in that force You're companies actually pay you more if want you to stay so sound bit better than what have Today he are actually want you to afford educate you're self also So He is Who should vote for he are actually Invest in Repair Roads Bridges better internet and so on for Inflation you had he never thought get his build USA better throigh so when fight about vill he made a deal with EU and got companies build in USA so You're inflation Been Overheated economy Biden Got to much So Money need He fight line hell for You should be invest in Not Rich grab all are that Maga Trump and those so angry about that actually are you all spend all money on Was Drbth Seeling was about Pay you're bills and Spend money on you all he plays Republican 2 years can Chill down economy on you all Biden are actually Supriced me in Way do it for American people inside USA are invest and he is very smart Old maybe Trump 4 year older not younger fat and just Jail go are a criminal all court wait all gouilty of doing so He are not do anything Just talk Biden done a lot no other presiden have created more work in 4 years what he already done just listen to wrong side 🤔
Many Americans have to work several jobs in order to survive since salaries are so low.
It is time for all workers to get mandatory paid vacations and a living wage
Unions, unions and unions. You can't expect the companies to pay you more, if you're forced to work with less. They get the profit! Unions!
Not getting for part time job here in NZ after you have done your time it is not held you doing anything that anyone else can do you can vote in elections borrow money to buy a car or a house you are just one of the rest of us.
Yes, I think its a fair critisism of USA, especialy working conditions.
Then a swift kick in/to Marx, he was a philosopher, a pupil of Hegel.
Hegel thougt that it was ideas that make people/countrys to be successful, but Marx put Hegel on his head and belived that it was peoples/countrys living/economic situation that adapt any ideas. IE, he reveald that there is differen classes in a society, that got different ideas, this is the standard modell today.
In anyway, I think that at least a quarter of Nordic, German, Irish population emigrated to USA, when there was famine in Europe, it was "The promised land", kind of biblical proportions.
There was free land, no population, (exept indians) and one could be a self made man, there was only oportunitys.. if one was a farmer! Some ended up in "Sweden Hollow" anyway?
And to compare USA and Europe is difficult, even if one only take EU countrys!
EU want a minimum wage in whole EU, Nordic countrys woting against, we dont have legislated mini wages, but we have instead legislation that promote/force collective agreements/promoting both labor unions and company unions to, negotiate and cooperate!
They still have low wages at MC-D in sweden, but its still higher then in USA, and its by there branch agreement, age, experience, responsebility gives a rise. And the company pays mandatory 33% on top of there salary, to the state for pension and healt security!
Its this, after the famine and exodus, nordic countries was the poorest in whole europe, there was almoste no rich elit to rule!
So we have to do it ourself, building our countrys frome the bottom up!
Farmer unions, to start cooperativs, dairy and other food processing industries, company unions that trigerd labour unions, monopolies that trigered consumers cooperative stores, free churches and IOGT/NTO (non alcoholic movment) was altso very active!
You can try the Nordic modell in USA.. its juste this, you first need to be the poorest country in america and build your country frome scratch!
heloo friend secend thot uploded a intrasting video on ukraine i think you will like it
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