Hi Ted, just spotted this new review and thought I'd give a long-term perspective. I have several pairs of Abisko Lites and they've been my mainstay in anything other than persistent rain for a few years. I agree the strap adjustment at the ankle isn't the best and I've removed the straps from mine as it's such an irritating faff and they can get snagged on tree roots etc too easily. The fit is as close as a trouser gets without becoming a legging but isn't at all restrictive. My main beef over the years has been the tendency to wear quickly at the crotch, as there are are lot of vulnerable seams in that area and the G1000 Lite isn't a particularly durable material either. I don't think this level of fragility is acceptable in such an expensive trouser and it's a poor bit of design to have so many seams wearing each other and themselves out. I've got used to repairing mine in this area on a regular basis but when mine are beyond such repair I'll probably not purchase this model again because of this issue. I'm finding my newer Vidda Pro Ventilated aren't excessively hot in warmer weather and the materials and construction promise better durability so eventually I'll default to those, I think.
appreciate your input brother! as you know, I agree with the straps at the bottom! I haven't seen any wear and tear around the crotch on mine as of yet, but it's a good point, I hope they can have a closer look at that!
One of the reasons I chose the Abisko Midsummer trousers over the Abisko Lites was that cinch at the ankle. The Midsummers use an elastic shock cord which I preferred. However, they also _do not_ have the boot lace hook, which I really like. Damned if you do, damned if you don't in this case. I found the Midsummer's to be nice and light, but the durability isn't there. Juuust right though, on a day where everyone has shorts on, but you want to keep the branches and bugs off your skin.
I use Fjallraven trousers for 10 years now. So I can compare a bit the evolution over those 10 years. My latest trousers were G100 with two removable parts. I have to be honest I wear them almost everyday. What I did see is that the quality of the fiber 10 years ago was more durable than the G1000 fiber. I think Fjallraven quality has been decreasing over the years with more focus on design. I think they need to get that balance better in control.
@danceswithbadgers if your crotch area repeatedly breaks, do you happen to have a leg length discrepancy? That causes holes in the crotch area. I'm an expert in this particular field.
@@NewcastleMatt I'm not aware of any discrepancy. Just trying to judge this by sitting on the floor with my legs straight my ankle bones seem to align perfectly. I don't get, nor have I ever experienced, this kind of wear with stretch-woven softshell trousers. I really think it's the combination of the material and poorly placed, constructed seams. Edit: I've had even more catastrophic wear with the heavier Vidda Pro Ventilated trousers than the Abisko Lites. A few months in and they were effectively useless.
They look like a great pair of outdoor pants for warmer weather. Being made by Fjallraven there can be no doubt about quality. I love my Vida Pro's. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for wonderful video! It is really interesting and motivating! Cannot wait when all of us start travel again! Thank you for helping to promote tourism!
I have a pair of these pants and I wish the vent zippers zipped from bottom to top instead of top to bottom. Nobody wants to see the top of my thigh. Also wish all Fjallraven pants had one rear pocket. They are well made but these additions would make them more useful.
The problem I have is that I can buy at North face 4 trousers for the price of one Fjallraven. I know you can't compare them but anyway 4 times the price is become a real blocker.
I understand what you mean brother, it's an investment, these trousers you can have for a really long time! I hope you find the trousers that suits you the best, both financially and physically! :)
brother, when it comes to legs and my body I've lost track a long time ago, it all comes down to personal preference I suppose, best is to try them if you can!
Great review! How noisy is the fabric? My use would be for wildlife photography, and I'm looking for breathable pants that are also quiet and won't make all sorts of swishing noises when I move (potentially scaring away photo subjects).
Thanks! They do carry i more silent trouser, search for g1000 silent and see if you can find anything that suits you there. You got these ones for example: www.fjallraven.com/se/sv-se/herr/byxor/jaktbyxor/drev-trousers-m Hope that helps! :)
Great pants. Love to get a pair. I will say, it looks November at least, I could be wrong? I'm sure they work in any climate including Kelvin temperatures. Does the boot hook work on sandals? Seriously, I saw them online, but having the review in the video really helps. Peace
Omg is your legs longer than normal people? I’m 165cm tall and I tried size 44 vidda pro reg which fits me at all aspects. But the end of the leg is at the bottom of my foot. Even the shorter version is just a little bit higher. But look at yours I’m so surprised. It’s just touching your ankle
Hej Ted, I have the Abisko Midsummer Short and also the Trousers. Are there any big differences to the Abisko Lite? Which of the two would you prefer? Thanks for the video.
Funny, I have the Abisko midsummer trekking trousers, and they don't include a gear loop. My Vidda Pros don't have the gear loop. My Abisko shorts don't have a gear loop. Oddly enough, the one bottoms from FR that _do_ have the gear loop for me are the Abisko Lite shorts, which I use for casual, non-hiking use. Ever more strange is their webpages shows pictures of the Abisko Lite shorts without the gear loop. So confusing!
@@TedWeirum Sorry for the confusion, Ted. My comment was more about FR's strange and seemingly arbitrary choices when deciding whether or not to include a gear loop on their trousers. All my products have been received as advertised, there is just no reason to not include a gear loop on several products being sold as trekking clothes.
I bought these but for me the crotch seam on the front (where it connects to the stretchy material that gussets the crotch) becomes tight everytime I stretch out my legs. Rather than putting the tension on the elastic it puts it on top of the seam. @TedWeirum does that happen to you too? I have them sitting right in between the upper and mid hip-bone area like normal pants so I have no idea if this is just a me problem. I just cant seem to get the full effect of the elastic, Great pants otherwise.
@@TedWeirum What do you personally think about Zip offs? Looks like they are a versatile pair, can't see why someone would buy just the trousers when one could have 2 in 1, shorts + trousers
@@TedWeirum ^^^^This right here. Comfort level - you would have to try them on to really know. Having a zipper in the vicinity of a constantly flexing joint could be distracting as well. All depends on your context and application when wearing, just gotta weigh your pros and cons and hopefully get the chance to try two of the same pair on.
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Hi Ted, just spotted this new review and thought I'd give a long-term perspective. I have several pairs of Abisko Lites and they've been my mainstay in anything other than persistent rain for a few years. I agree the strap adjustment at the ankle isn't the best and I've removed the straps from mine as it's such an irritating faff and they can get snagged on tree roots etc too easily. The fit is as close as a trouser gets without becoming a legging but isn't at all restrictive. My main beef over the years has been the tendency to wear quickly at the crotch, as there are are lot of vulnerable seams in that area and the G1000 Lite isn't a particularly durable material either. I don't think this level of fragility is acceptable in such an expensive trouser and it's a poor bit of design to have so many seams wearing each other and themselves out. I've got used to repairing mine in this area on a regular basis but when mine are beyond such repair I'll probably not purchase this model again because of this issue. I'm finding my newer Vidda Pro Ventilated aren't excessively hot in warmer weather and the materials and construction promise better durability so eventually I'll default to those, I think.
appreciate your input brother! as you know, I agree with the straps at the bottom! I haven't seen any wear and tear around the crotch on mine as of yet, but it's a good point, I hope they can have a closer look at that!
One of the reasons I chose the Abisko Midsummer trousers over the Abisko Lites was that cinch at the ankle. The Midsummers use an elastic shock cord which I preferred. However, they also _do not_ have the boot lace hook, which I really like. Damned if you do, damned if you don't in this case. I found the Midsummer's to be nice and light, but the durability isn't there. Juuust right though, on a day where everyone has shorts on, but you want to keep the branches and bugs off your skin.
I use Fjallraven trousers for 10 years now. So I can compare a bit the evolution over those 10 years. My latest trousers were G100 with two removable parts. I have to be honest I wear them almost everyday. What I did see is that the quality of the fiber 10 years ago was more durable than the G1000 fiber. I think Fjallraven quality has been decreasing over the years with more focus on design. I think they need to get that balance better in control.
@danceswithbadgers if your crotch area repeatedly breaks, do you happen to have a leg length discrepancy? That causes holes in the crotch area. I'm an expert in this particular field.
@@NewcastleMatt I'm not aware of any discrepancy. Just trying to judge this by sitting on the floor with my legs straight my ankle bones seem to align perfectly. I don't get, nor have I ever experienced, this kind of wear with stretch-woven softshell trousers. I really think it's the combination of the material and poorly placed, constructed seams.
Edit: I've had even more catastrophic wear with the heavier Vidda Pro Ventilated trousers than the Abisko Lites. A few months in and they were effectively useless.
They look like a great pair of outdoor pants for warmer weather. Being made by Fjallraven there can be no doubt about quality. I love my Vida Pro's. Thanks for sharing.
They're great! thanks for watching brother!
Love your sense of humour! Good review!
Thanks brother! this was obviously scripted :P
Thank you for wonderful video! It is really interesting and motivating! Cannot wait when all of us start travel again! Thank you for helping to promote tourism!
appreciate it! :)
Great review. Loving the info that you provide
My pleasure! time travel has always been my strong side :P
Top review as always Ted!
Thanks brother!
I have a pair of these pants and I wish the vent zippers zipped from bottom to top instead of top to bottom. Nobody wants to see the top of my thigh. Also wish all Fjallraven pants had one rear pocket. They are well made but these additions would make them more useful.
Hey Scott! interesting points! it's hard to make a trousers that are good for everything, I do believe they have some version with back pockets!
Probably my favorite FJ Pants...
great pair of trousers!
The problem I have is that I can buy at North face 4 trousers for the price of one Fjallraven. I know you can't compare them but anyway 4 times the price is become a real blocker.
I understand what you mean brother, it's an investment, these trousers you can have for a really long time! I hope you find the trousers that suits you the best, both financially and physically! :)
Are they supposed to fit close to the body like yours? I’m wondering if I should order a size up since I have large thighs.
brother, when it comes to legs and my body I've lost track a long time ago, it all comes down to personal preference I suppose, best is to try them if you can!
Dalby stenbrott! Härligt! 🏊
Beställde precis ett par nya Lite Trekking för mina Trekking Zip börjar bli lite håliga efter 5 års aktivt användande..
Så är det! :) var ute efter lite "bergigare terräng" fast ändå nära.. :P
Great review Ted thanks. these look quality. Could you let me know what colour they are please. Dark grey or dark navy?
Dark gray! :) thanks for watching!
Great review! How noisy is the fabric? My use would be for wildlife photography, and I'm looking for breathable pants that are also quiet and won't make all sorts of swishing noises when I move (potentially scaring away photo subjects).
Thanks! They do carry i more silent trouser, search for g1000 silent and see if you can find anything that suits you there. You got these ones for example: www.fjallraven.com/se/sv-se/herr/byxor/jaktbyxor/drev-trousers-m
Hope that helps! :)
Great pants. Love to get a pair. I will say, it looks November at least, I could be wrong? I'm sure they work in any climate including Kelvin temperatures. Does the boot hook work on sandals? Seriously, I saw them online, but having the review in the video really helps. Peace
all kinds of crazy in this video! the boothook is especially made for sandals that should have been changed 3 years ago! :P
Omg is your legs longer than normal people? I’m 165cm tall and I tried size 44 vidda pro reg which fits me at all aspects. But the end of the leg is at the bottom of my foot. Even the shorter version is just a little bit higher. But look at yours I’m so surprised. It’s just touching your ankle
I have superlegs yes. It’s a my sort of unique leg model feature.
Crème de la crème so to say.. you’re welcome.
Arę these more like skinny jeans pants than regular Abisko or KEB trousers?
At least more so than keb and abisko!
Hej Ted,
I have the Abisko Midsummer Short and also the Trousers. Are there any big differences to the Abisko Lite? Which of the two would you prefer?
Thanks for the video.
I think if you got the shorts you're good for the summer, this would be a cooler alternative when it's really warm but then you'd use your shorts! :)
Good review! How tall are you and what size are you wearing? :) Thanks again.
I’m 181 cm and it’s a 44! :)
Funny, I have the Abisko midsummer trekking trousers, and they don't include a gear loop. My Vidda Pros don't have the gear loop. My Abisko shorts don't have a gear loop. Oddly enough, the one bottoms from FR that _do_ have the gear loop for me are the Abisko Lite shorts, which I use for casual, non-hiking use. Ever more strange is their webpages shows pictures of the Abisko Lite shorts without the gear loop. So confusing!
That is odd! I would contact them! if it shows on the website then it should be on yours as well.. :)
@@TedWeirum Sorry for the confusion, Ted. My comment was more about FR's strange and seemingly arbitrary choices when deciding whether or not to include a gear loop on their trousers. All my products have been received as advertised, there is just no reason to not include a gear loop on several products being sold as trekking clothes.
Looks very nice! How is production capacity at the moment? I can't find my size available in any Norwegian online store.
Wish I knew friend, I think they'll be in stock soon though!
Hi awsome vid! Are these a regular or a long version? Thans!
Thanks! theses would be the Regular!
Hi awesome overview thanks. What size are you wearing and what’s your regular size and height? Would love to figure out fit. Thanks!
44, I’m 181 cm. :)
Really interested in these, obviously very versatile with boots or Birks.
Did you get bigger though? 🥺 Chest and shoulders looking huge! 💪🏾
Okay, thought it was just me 😂
hahaha, YES! I eat like a lion and workout like a gorilla! training for the big adventure!
@@TedWeirum all those eggs! We need the workout vlog, please. I know it's not just the 25 kg°F sack of cement.
Hahahaha, it will be a separate video!
@@TedWeirum I'm here for it!
I bought these but for me the crotch seam on the front (where it connects to the stretchy material that gussets the crotch) becomes tight everytime I stretch out my legs. Rather than putting the tension on the elastic it puts it on top of the seam. @TedWeirum does that happen to you too? I have them sitting right in between the upper and mid hip-bone area like normal pants so I have no idea if this is just a me problem. I just cant seem to get the full effect of the elastic, Great pants otherwise.
Hey! it's nothing that I thought about while wearing them, for me the fit have been fine. I'll be sure to give it a look next time I try them on!
Wann see you in Nepal?
I wanna see me in Nepal too!
How does it compare with the abisko mid summer trousers? Thanks
@@richardt.1119 Thanks!
I need this in a zip of for my Kungsleden trip ?
that would be an awesome trouser. have a look at the Abisko midsummer trousers, they come in a zip of variant!
Is there any difference between Abisko Lite Zip Off and these ones besides the feature to change the former into shorts?
Don’t think so!
@@TedWeirum What do you personally think about Zip offs? Looks like they are a versatile pair, can't see why someone would buy just the trousers when one could have 2 in 1, shorts + trousers
I do like them, sometimes I feel them a bit tight around the knee due to the zipper
@@TedWeirum ^^^^This right here. Comfort level - you would have to try them on to really know. Having a zipper in the vicinity of a constantly flexing joint could be distracting as well. All depends on your context and application when wearing, just gotta weigh your pros and cons and hopefully get the chance to try two of the same pair on.
Agreed!
color in video? Looks nice
The trousers are black! :)
Asså....världsklass på dina dojjor 😘
Krävs ju år av hårt arbete för att ge dom den "unika" looken!
Hi.. What color are U wearing? I like it
I think they actually just call it black!
@@TedWeirum they got Dark Grey and Dark Navy. I would love to know as well, because I like yours.
Tur att du har Abbe...🤠👍❤
Absolut, nu är det dock John som filmar denna videon, men jag tror vi alla förstår vad du menar! :)
you need a new pair of Birkenstock 😅
WORD!
thoughts on the vardag trousers Ted?
I’m sure they’re good, haven’t had a chance to try them yet! What are yours?
how TF does this guy only have 17k followers!?
Hahahahaha, I takes true talent to grow this slow! ;)
Brother, I don’t know. But it also doesn’t matter, what’s important is that you’re here! :)
@@TedWeirum You probably need more thumbnails that read "the truth about fjallraven" and a picture of you trapped under a log or something
basically click baiter
@cappaslangmurderer hahaha, I’ll do that! Can’t wait to see the subs come flowing in!
@@cappaslangmurderer I guess so!