In 25 years of hvac work, I've changed out about 25 standard blower motors. In the last 5 to 10 years, I've changed out 100s of ECM motors. I just don't understand why the industry can't make a better motor or just go back to the old way, it worked.
@@roaddog7793 answered correctly. 25 motors in 25 years vs 100 motors in 5,,, there's you answer. Same w new furnaces. Since you're the manufacturer,,, why not send in your legislation to devise schemes where you're only responsible fir building furnaces that last 7 to 10 years,,, nowadays. 30yeartech here.
Years ago I had said that there was something wrong with X13 blowers I was finding in Carrier, Bryant, Payne, Day and night. Every monsoon season 1-5 year old motors failing left and right. I knew it had to be moisture getting into the motor. Had a ECM motors class at my last company and they admitted that the motors had a problem with accumulating moisture and they're toast. That's here in AZ I can only imagine how bad it was in other states with crazy high humidity.
Also don't prefer to use pullers. I like to take a black pipe nipple and sleeve it over the shaft, use that to tap the wheel down and break free. Then use a wire wheel with a hex shank in an extension in my impact to get all the rust filed down. Thanks for another great vid dude!
As an apprentice I was told to always put never seize on just about anything that a machine fit - especially if there are dissimilar materials involved.
Remember, people have been taken advantage of and you have to earn their trust! When I had my garage door business I didn’t care if they watched, but normally after a bit they’ll leave. again you have to earn it!
Good job, you are much more patient than I am....I know we all have our ways of doing stuff...the right, the wrong and our way....just years of experience and a person knows what will work majority of the time....and btw thanks for answering phone a while back when I called to ask your opinion on fieldpiece sman360 repair....worked as you described ...again I appreciate the information you and all the othe guys allow us to see....take care from Texas
First of all, Thanks for the videos. On those I found using a die grinder and cutoff wheel works best, cut the shaft off as close to the hub as possible, if motor is junk. Then you don’t have to push through all the rust. I think Supco makes one that’s a little easier. Some places don’t allow sparks, so your method is good too. The Rotary Hammer is a great tool with a chisel or punch. It’s like a heavy air hammer. I have been commercial HVACR for 24 years, you learn something new every day.
I have an old Whirlpool window unit from 1969. The old Delco fan motor was shot. So a couple months ago I decided to replace it. Being in a window for the last 5 decades wasn't kind to the motor shaft on the condenser side. It took a lot of Blaster and beating with a hammer to get the fan off. The unit now has a Fasco motor in it (factory spec replacement, new capacitor too) and is running great. Sucks water out of the air like a sponge.
I put a 24 MM socket with an adapter for my drill. Get my blade pulled all squared up and tightened on the hub. Grab the back of the blade puller with my crescent wrench, slap my socket on my blade puller bolt and squeeze the trigger. Not had one motor I couldn't pull with it. I of course sand and lubricate the shaft first. I also live in Arizona where we don't have nearly the humidity so maybe I'm naive in thinking it would work on a motor like this but I've had some pretty stuck motors and no issue.
I do exactly what you do. I do have to use the puller here and there, but i try as hard as i can not to. My ONLY criticism of video.. im pretty sure those universal blower motors have to start up with the door panel on because they have to program themselves based on static.
just used one of those hammer chisels yesterday with a buddy. it was his employers and he does union big job plumbing. He was doing a brick wall hole for a vent for a dryer and would just put the chisel into the ground when he needed to put it down lol. He would chisel it into the ground then grab it again, use it, then back into the ground like a gun holster or a shovel lol.
If fails for a few reasons. Lack of maintenance, lack of filter changes and running the temps 69-72 all the time with unit being dirty. These motors gotta stay clean with a good static
Question, have you ever seen the wiring blow out of compressor and oil everywhere? It's a Goodman. Thanks Hoss. Step on that loud pedal. Need more drag racing vids
I soak in wd40 and let sit as long as possible. After, sand shaft very well. Take pliers and move it with channel locks. 95% percent of time it works. Hub puller rarely needed.....
A puller would have been faster imo but thats what ive always done never had an issue. Long as you sand it and oil ut and dont damage the wheel guess it dont matter how you do it
Cleaned out my coils today and noticed the air was coming out of the top, but to the sides and not straight up. Works fine otherwise, any idea what causes this and should I be concerned. 10 year old Payne system
And yeah you don’t have to use a puller but shoot I would rather use my puller and be done in 20 mins then go through all that trouble. 🤣 Work smarter not harder
In 25 years of hvac work, I've changed out about 25 standard blower motors. In the last 5 to 10 years, I've changed out 100s of ECM motors. I just don't understand why the industry can't make a better motor or just go back to the old way, it worked.
Money that's why
@@roaddog7793 answered correctly.
25 motors in 25 years vs 100 motors in 5,,, there's you answer. Same w new furnaces. Since you're the manufacturer,,, why not send in your legislation to devise schemes where you're only responsible fir building furnaces that last 7 to 10 years,,, nowadays. 30yeartech here.
Years ago I had said that there was something wrong with X13 blowers I was finding in Carrier, Bryant, Payne, Day and night. Every monsoon season 1-5 year old motors failing left and right. I knew it had to be moisture getting into the motor. Had a ECM motors class at my last company and they admitted that the motors had a problem with accumulating moisture and they're toast. That's here in AZ I can only imagine how bad it was in other states with crazy high humidity.
Also don't prefer to use pullers. I like to take a black pipe nipple and sleeve it over the shaft, use that to tap the wheel down and break free. Then use a wire wheel with a hex shank in an extension in my impact to get all the rust filed down. Thanks for another great vid dude!
You have the best HVAC service videos on CZcams. I really enjoy them. BUT, you are way too hardheaded against hub pullers.
who needs a hub puller when you can take twice as long and use a battery powered hammer drill?
As an apprentice I was told to always put never seize on just about anything that a machine fit - especially if there are dissimilar materials involved.
Remember, people have been taken advantage of and you have to earn their trust! When I had my garage door business I didn’t care if they watched, but normally after a bit they’ll leave. again you have to earn it!
As long as it doesn't interfere with my work go ahead and watch
Good job, you are much more patient than I am....I know we all have our ways of doing stuff...the right, the wrong and our way....just years of experience and a person knows what will work majority of the time....and btw thanks for answering phone a while back when I called to ask your opinion on fieldpiece sman360 repair....worked as you described ...again I appreciate the information you and all the othe guys allow us to see....take care from Texas
First of all, Thanks for the videos. On those I found using a die grinder and cutoff wheel works best, cut the shaft off as close to the hub as possible, if motor is junk. Then you don’t have to push through all the rust. I think Supco makes one that’s a little easier. Some places don’t allow sparks, so your method is good too. The Rotary Hammer is a great tool with a chisel or punch. It’s like a heavy air hammer. I have been commercial HVACR for 24 years, you learn something new every day.
Appreciate the lowered volume during tool use. Happy 4th
Great Job Ted!!! Love your channel and keep doing what your doing!!!!🤟🤟🤟
Good job rider...always nice to see a tech take his time and get 'er done. Looks like a "gentech" ECM motor or "green"
Just to let the young guys know, do not ever underestimate a guy with two key rings on his belt! Ted Cook means business! 😆
I use Jack of All Sprays on the suspension bushings on my Prowler. It does a great job stopping the 20-year-old squeaks that have developed.
I love the helicopter reference 😂😂 been out of hvac about 2 years. Now I’m back
I have an old Whirlpool window unit from 1969. The old Delco fan motor was shot. So a couple months ago I decided to replace it. Being in a window for the last 5 decades wasn't kind to the motor shaft on the condenser side. It took a lot of Blaster and beating with a hammer to get the fan off. The unit now has a Fasco motor in it (factory spec replacement, new capacitor too) and is running great. Sucks water out of the air like a sponge.
Coastal Nc,,,BlackBeard Country,,,the salt is job security but shafts can be a real pain. Well done Boss!
AH .... YES .... The poor man's AIR HAMMER. Used that trick a few times m'self! Nice video, sir!
Good little vid Ted ... I never minded helicopters , most of em just wanted someone to chat with ... Thx ...
I put a 24 MM socket with an adapter for my drill. Get my blade pulled all squared up and tightened on the hub. Grab the back of the blade puller with my crescent wrench, slap my socket on my blade puller bolt and squeeze the trigger. Not had one motor I couldn't pull with it. I of course sand and lubricate the shaft first. I also live in Arizona where we don't have nearly the humidity so maybe I'm naive in thinking it would work on a motor like this but I've had some pretty stuck motors and no issue.
Good job, Ted. Don't miss the helicopters.
I gave a LIKE just for the lowered volume when you used your hammer/chisel.
The special sound when he said puller 3 times, priceless.😂
Happy Independence Day Ted ! 🇺🇸🦅
If you haven’t heard of it there’s a penetrating oil called kroil great stuff
Kroil is over hyped and over priced.
I also think he mentioned he likes the penetrating oil he uses because it’s low odor.
2nd the comment from Andy Ruse....Kroil oil underperforms. Liquid Wrench is the best you can buy
@@Hawkins1 Jack of all Sprays is 2nd to none. Try it... you'll agree. Ted and I swear by it.
Crusty hub ! Nice job and thanks as always.
I do exactly what you do. I do have to use the puller here and there, but i try as hard as i can not to.
My ONLY criticism of video.. im pretty sure those universal blower motors have to start up with the door panel on because they have to program themselves based on static.
just used one of those hammer chisels yesterday with a buddy. it was his employers and he does union big job plumbing. He was doing a brick wall hole for a vent for a dryer and would just put the chisel into the ground when he needed to put it down lol. He would chisel it into the ground then grab it again, use it, then back into the ground like a gun holster or a shovel lol.
Lol Ted I here the ragging in the back ground get the puller 😂
I wonder if they could make a long version of a battery terminal cleaner that you could chuck in a drill for those motor shafts
How about a foot long piece of water pipe over/down that shaft to encourage it?
Thanks for all your tips.
Good job Ted.
I had one not too long ago same package unit and I had to cut apart the old wheel with a sawzall because it was so rusted
So this one was just a weee bit tougher than you thought! 😂😂😂😂😂
I always sand down the shaft then add the lube you used and work it out.
Yes sir, it saw things your way with a little help from WD41and sweet vibrations ;)
As a mechanic, one learns to rely on their air hammer a lot. I’ve been wondering when they’d make a dedicated equivalent, using a battery.
After all these years, motor manufacturers can’t spend the extra 10 cents on a stainless steel armature shaft smh
If fails for a few reasons. Lack of maintenance, lack of filter changes and running the temps 69-72 all the time with unit being dirty. These motors gotta stay clean with a good static
Cut shaft then use punch to knock motor off.
atleast sand the shaft a bit lol
Question, have you ever seen the wiring blow out of compressor and oil everywhere? It's a Goodman. Thanks Hoss. Step on that loud pedal. Need more drag racing vids
That’s a burn out new compressor flush lines add suction filter drier.
I soak in wd40 and let sit as long as possible. After, sand shaft very well. Take pliers and move it with channel locks. 95% percent of time it works. Hub puller rarely needed.....
Nice trick using hammer function
Nice. Thank you.
Kroil, never had it fail.
A fella has got it made if he can wear loafers to work! 😂
I'm with you on the pullers. Sand paper and penetrating spray. And you got me on "The Jack of all Sprays" bandwagon, that stuff is great, no odor.
Quik Question for ya... When replacing an average split unit with new, is it customary to also replace the line set?
That is a lot of rust for an indoor blower. Great video
puller..pusher...not much difference . Great vid!
A puller would have been faster imo but thats what ive always done never had an issue. Long as you sand it and oil ut and dont damage the wheel guess it dont matter how you do it
0:40 "How often do I change the filter? Where is the filter located? Isn't the filter good for the lifetime of the unit?"
Cleaned out my coils today and noticed the air was coming out of the top, but to the sides and not straight up. Works fine otherwise, any idea what causes this and should I be concerned. 10 year old Payne system
Might need to clean it again, that’s a sign of dirty coil.
Sometimes they just put up a fight 😉
Helicopters? That’s got to be those hanging around and “helping”?
which spray are you using to lubricate?
Jack of all sprays
No puller, a pint of Jim Beam would be in order.
I wouldn't "commit" that much time and effort, the quote for the repair will include a new blower assembly. Just my thoughts
So they have no AC for days then right ?
Should have sanded rust off of shaft, before trying to remove
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What’s the lubricant name please?
Jack Of All Sprays is what I use.
You got be very careful and don’t hit to hard, cause you easily unbalanced the wheel.
Why not use a puller.
Never seen a package unit on the ground level, only on roof tops
It’s common in our area
Manufactured houses typically have them. Either on ground or on platform
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NGL I would have just went and bought a puller
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Pullers dont do nothing sometimes
No puller? Sounds like a job for a full can of blaster
2:49 WD40 would help…
I was told to work smart not hard
Really be ironic if somewhere their was a HVAC technician by the name of Rusty Blower.
And yeah you don’t have to use a puller but shoot I would rather use my puller and be done in 20 mins then go through all that trouble. 🤣
Work smarter not harder
A puller is slower in most cases.
Kinda late today? Looks like 10am. I hear you bubba.