I thought that as well till Trump won. My apathy cured by Ron Paul 2007 destroyed by the RNC DNC MSM the Deep State in 2012. It looked pretty bad. Night of the election (2016) I fell asleep and awoke just in time to witness a freaking miracle. Imagine how we were relayed American history/folk tales when we were kids. Johnny Apple Seed, Mayflower, Philadelphia, Rɘvo⅃ution, Evacuation Day.....Our great grand kids will be hearing about Jan 20th 2017 the same way. God Bless our President.
@@arlobubble3748 no. Being prolife myself i fully comprehend how hairs are split here. Most prochoice advocates are NOT monsters. Almost 90% love children. Being either PROCHOICE or PROLIFE is NOT an easy position to take. Both have valid arguments. For one theres a huge difference between murdering your baby because its viewed as an unwanted inconvenience and having a safe painless abortion because you have few to no other options. Lets say youre in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia where they stone rape victims or you had an affair outside of marriage. You know this so you dont tell anyone. You discover your pregnant. You know its a death sentence if your family finds out. Your radical Islamist faith says you should be stoned. Its not just backed by Sunni ideology. Its also backed by the LAW. They now have help from organizations and ministries who help women who have pregnancies outside of marriage keep their babies. But theirs not enough of them. When you know that you live in a world that will murder both you and your baby you know theres not enough time to flee to somewhere without your family finding out...a safe painless abortion is most likely the most humane thing that could happen to the baby. The rates of infanticide and foeticide in these countries are off the chart. You have NO CLUE...NONE...of what will be done to that baby. This situation is about saving someones life and protecting someone destined to die from a horrific death. This isnt about MY BODY MY CHOICE. This is about making choices with few options. And it just might be that killing your baby might be part of the choice to save you and your family. Abortion is often about being given limited to no options.
I think he is very respectful to Dr. Paul and hypoteticals is how you analyze a situation like this. What bothers me is that they did not post his whole response
That is the right answer both morally and medically. Piers obviously has no idea when conception happens and maybe after this he will study up on how babies are made, but I like what Dr. Paul said.
100%. Although this is the problem with being a public figure who’s both very smart and not especially articulate. It’s the right answer but perhaps not phrased properly for a general audience because Paul isn’t connecting every dot.
Sounds arrogant of me to think that I know his views. But after a decade of observation on what his views are, I'm confident to say what they are. If I am wrong I would hope someone would point it out
@@SkinnyEMedia I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but this is what he says. If it was up to me, the right to life would be protected at a federal level.
Yes, that's what I thought! From www.plannedparenthood.org : "Pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex - it can take up to six days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg." So, a rape victim can take a "morning-after" pill and avoid any potential pregnancy. No risk a no human life taken.
@@andres.e. very true, but he does have a point, a lot of people aren’t talking about an unfertilized egg, they are talking about killing a pre born in the womb.
First time I saw this. How disgusting Piers and his gyno-advertising friendly overlords are. Ron Paul did his part, and has my utmost respect. Lamestream media is complicit in the fall of Western civilization.
One day abortion will be abolished and history will look back on the practice with the same critical view that we look back on slave ownership today. I recommend watching a video that Frontline did on abortion back in the 80s. They take no stance on the subject, but just give the audience real stories about typical abortions. I will caution that it takes a brave person to watch such a documentary. The practice of abortion is senseless, barbaric, and will be ended.
doublea125 To decide the whole question of abortion on the basis of a violent crime is insane. To violently kill a baby because of rape does not punish the rapist it kills the innocent baby. Why oh why is this so hard to understand. Ron Paul rightly states that rape is an immediate medical emergency as well as a crime. The woman should be at the ER receiving medical care and comfort with police presence.
Chuck W Seriously. What woman gets raped and then waits 6 months to abort? No one in their right mind thinks a woman should be forced to carry a rapists child. But no one in their right mind thinks a woman would wait that long either. If they do wait that long, why can’t they put that baby up for adoption???
@@Moneyman-33 I wouldn't want a woman to be forced to carry a rapist's child. The rapist forced that on her. Not wanting to kill the baby is a completely separate, pressing concern. Either way, the baby is purely innocent.
Ron Paul and other gynos are the only men on the planet who should have a right to speak on this issue with any credibility. Ron delivered kids. He has a pretty good idea when life begins. He can cut through the crap on the Left AND the Right. I support a woman's right to choose unconditionally because so many factors are at play, but Ron's position I totally respect. He has lived this so he is one of the few men who can speak to this issue with credibility.
What about the rights of the unborn child? Unless the woman was raped, she had a choice she made that led to the conception in the first place and must accept the consequences.
Sue Starlite unless you believe in immaculate conception- that people can just spontaneously get pregnant like the Virgin Mary... Do you believe that? Do you think pregnancy is *not* a consequence? Do you think that storks bring you babies when they think you’re ready? Did your parents ever have “the talk” with you?
@@Idalychare you calling me "retarded" as an insult? What about consequences that are born retarded, do you see them as "less than you, something to insult? A person to make fun of? Do you think it's fair to bring a child into the world for others to make fun of and insult? You're a real upstanding human being. Let me watch you back peddle and turn your insult back around on me, like you did your "consequence". Actually, you should just stop writing. You're the type of person that should only carry a sign and not speak. Not join me when I speak to Congress about murdering babies.
"They're so ashamed of what's happened..." Think about that for a second. The only thing that could make them "ashamed" is a culture that vilifies the victim of the rape. Instead of empowering them to do something about it. That's you, Piers, and every other person who wants to play this game of "they're so ashamed". And what Dr. Paul said is 100% correct. He would encourage the woman to go to the ER, get treated for any abuse and harm, get treated with Estrogen or any other preventive car, AND THEN THE POLICE WILL BE CALLED IN FOR CHARGES TO BE FILED, AND THE SCUM TAKEN OFF THE STREETS! Thanks CNN for truly ruining the chances of having the best President of our time! Listening to a Brit instead of an American. #GFYS
The problem with the rape example, as valid as it is, is that the pro-abortion or pro-choice side STILL believes that abortion is okay, even in consensual sex, which is the majority of the time. If you believe that it's a woman's choice in any scenario, then it ultimately doesn't matter whether the pregnancy was a result of rape or not. So why bring it up?
More needs to be done to prevent rape. When it does occur, people need to get to the ER ASAP (as Dr. Paul said) and they need to be offered hormonal injections and such to prevent a conception, and treated for any other injuries that may have happened during the rape. I also believe that rapists need to be castrated. We can't go policing the bodies of innocent women that have experienced this horrific crime, then let rapists roam the streets with their weapon.
I know of a 11 year old child raped on her way home from school. She got pregnant and had know ideal that she was with child. Had child without any support. Keeping the child. Hounded by government to tell who was Daddy. If Daddy was known rape charges would have been filled. Such a burden on such a young girl. Baby was half black and a huge child. Whenever a person of any age is raped they should be given the day after pill no questions asked. This child's life and dreams were destroyed.
To decide the whole question of abortion on the basis of a violent crime is insane. To violently kill a baby because of rape does not punish the rapist it kills the innocent baby. Why oh why is this so hard to understand. Ron Paul rightly states that rape is an immediate medical emergency as well as a crime. The woman should be at the ER receiving medical care and comfort with police presence.
Ron Paul slapped the crap out of Piers. Ronny did it! Life but in the case of an actual r@pe then an hour or couple of hours after of course, 9 months later hell no! Everything else take some dang responsibility.
When it comes to abortion they always bring up rape. If a woman has been raped then she needs to go get checked out and make sure she is not pregnant not wait till its to late.
Can you honestly say you'd do that? Men have been victims of rape and they don't say anything primarily because of shame. Women have the factor of shame and fear, we're the only ones that have to worry about being impregnated by a rape. So that part of being a rape victim is a nonfactor for Male rape victims. So you have shame, fear, STDs, etc for both men and women but pregnancy is also a reality for women only. So if if the other factors paralyze rape victims in getting help initially, it is wrong to say a woman should've rushed and reported the rape as well as get checked out. If a woman feels she can love and care for a child produced by rape then that's great but if she can't and it's within a medically approved time period then she has every right to do as she feels she needs to.
Why? Unless there is a threat to the mother's life that could be countered by an abortion (I'm not convinced of what exactly that would entail... from what I hear, premature delivery is the safer option in those scenarios for both mother and child) why should it ever be legal to kill the child?
@@owlblocksdavid4955 Negative, what about pregnancy due to rape !?!. This is a crime, I couldn't see a more compelling reason for an abortion it be performed and immediately; as a part of the long path of treatment for this victim either physically and psychologically. it is not about "killing a child" it is about an early medical intervention in the first 24 to 48 hours for the benefit of the victim. Notice : it is not a "mother" , it is a "victim". It is not killing a child it is fixing a mistake that could have a disastrous consequences for the victim, besides it is still a cluster of cells, not even an embryo.
The msm back when Dr. Paul was running for president ignored him when it mattered the most. When they had him in interviews they try to back him into a corner or show sound bites. Now days it Amazing the consult him for different topics like he matters if it serves the MSM agenda. The disappointment here is that those two elections ('08 and '12) back then people went for the same bozo not once but twice.
No - My comment had a spelling error which I cleared up. I very quickly fixed it and my comment is still there in the comments below. Scroll down. The analogy is perfect, in the sense that in both situations, there may or may not be human life there. And in both situations, you have the choice to go ahead and do it, regardless of any possibility of human life. Of course it's not analogous with the exact steps and emotions (just like any possible analogy), but the principle is identical.
Life begins at conception. if you leave a sperm cell for 9 months, you have a sperm cell. If you leave an unfertilized egg for 9 months it will be an egg. (given the sperm and egg would be discharged from the body long before 9 months) Leave a tumor for 9 months you have a [bigger] tumor. leave a fertilized egg for 9 months you have a new sentient being,
I don't believer it's too barbaric. The death penalty is more barbaric than castration (especially chemical castration.) The criminal agrees to the punishment when the criminal commits the crime. if they don't want the punishment, they won't commit the crime. Chemical or physical castration would protect others by calming the rapist, and sterilize him, so we can protect innocent girls/women from being put in situations like the hypothetical one used in the video.
ABORTION SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED INCOUNTRIES LIKE SCANDINAVIA OR BENELUX ICELAND OR GREENLAND , YET WOULD IT NOT APPLY FOR COUNTRIES WITH MILLIONS TO BILLIONS OF PEOPLE WITH SO MANY HUGE CITIES WHERE THERE IS LITTLE PROSPECT OF MAKING A CRIME FREE LIVING???!!!
"If it's an honest rape". What about a dishonest one? "You don't know if you're taking a life". Kinda like aeriel bombardments. Con Fall made more sense during his stroke.
This is where I part with Ron Paul and agree with Judge Nap. Life begins at Implantation. Not all the factors are there when an egg is simply fertilized. Otherwise we would call the depo shot pill etc. continuous abortion. The question becomes what is the value of potential human life. is an embryo of less value than a zygote of fetus? is a baby of less worth than an adult? Is a human zygote of more or less value than cattle? What is the difference between prevention and potential?
Michael Black I lean with you on this that implantation is necessary for survival. Yet and then anything that we do to interfere with that implantation interferes with natural process of growth such that if I were being a purist I would have to say that I support the protection of all embryos. The extinction of human life is a crime. Interfering with the sensitive environment that provides for that life is criminal. If I change my cars oil and dump the old stuff in the river I am going to pay a very large penalty yet if I interfere with a human with all of its DNA intact I am just practicing family planning. Nope an embryo is a baby whether you are an atheist or a Christian. It’s science.
being rape doesnt mean you're pregnant. theres like a 4 day period where you can get pregnant in between pregnancies. You realize how hard it actually is to get pregnant once you start trying.
The problem with the abortion debate is it involves two moving parts A: the government's authority to regulate the act of abortion and B: the moral dilemma of human life. The question comes down to what is a life? Ultimately I think it's an ALL or NOTHING proposition. Either you believe all abortions are legal/moral or they're not because you cannot pick and choose what constitutes a life. With that said I think there are of course exceptions to the rule, like life of the mother or rape/incest which 99% of people would agree are valid grounds for abortion. It's a really complicated issue but I have to say Ron Paul is a really good candidate
tommyrgrs Tough but simple. Science says it’s a baby with all of its unique DNA on board at conception as an embryo. The debate then ensues from there; “when does a humans life have a legal right to protection”? Does an elderly person with low awareness and low cognition who is costing a lot of money to care for lose those rights? Does a baby with a malformed spine who is likely to die soon after birth have those rights? Is it more compassionate to abort a severely deformed baby when normally these are miscarriages anyway? But these are the outliers in the debate and used as the tail wags the dog argument. The great majority of abortions are performed on healthy young women and the baby is usually over 8-12 weeks old. This is the intentional and very brutal ending of human life and it is for convenience. These babies could be carried to term and adopted with not really much inconvenience to the young mother. She could still go to work and school right up to birth, and know deep down for the rest of her life that she did something beautiful and noble. And with those months to reconsider she may choose to keep her child and raise that child as her own. Is this not the way better choice? Every year on that child’s birthday they would both celebrate that choice.
No! You are wrong. It's not when conscientiousness begins, it's when a HUMAN life is formed. The cells that go through a man and woman are definitely "alive", but they aren't human. When the egg meets the sperm, that is when it goes beyond mere cell life to human life.
I agree more needs to done to prevent rape, but castration? What if you find out (as has occurred numerous time in the past), you got the wrong person. Irreversible punishments doled out by an imperfect judicial system is a recipe for tyranny. Rape is a horrible, heinous crime, but you do not combat barbarism with more barbarism. I do not agree with Ron Paul's logic on this one, but at least he is able to reason through some of the complexities of the issue. It is not as simple as we think.
No, that is not what we are talking about here, We are not discussing an 'autonomous human life' we are talking about a first-trimester potential human life during a process that sees many miscarriages in that same time frame.
Honestly, even though I would consider myself pro life, I have to agree before the egg is fertilized it’s just an egg it has no chance of accidentally coming to life. But I would also have to agree once there is a chance of life with a fertilized egg I believe it automatically has the right to choose its own life.
@1cont you're right. So conception doesn't really occur medically for 3-5 days, therefore you have ample time to get to a police station or find a friend who can take you to the hospital. It's not as if after being raped, you're immediately pregnant and have to on moral grounds keep the kid. Life DOES begin at conception...it just doesn't begin at erection. Sorry, Frothy.
He does not always bad mouth the U.S. I have heard him call it a great country many times. He's just on the wrong side of this gun control issue. And i'm sure he is a U.S. citizen. After all he does work for an American Liberal News Network, CNN.
I hear this "if you were raped..." analogy all the time. Ron Paul makes the BEST POINT. If you were raped, why not take the morning after pill? Analogy moot. And even though this is a good analogy for a philosophical debate, is it statistically AN ISSUE? I mean does the "pregnant after rape" really happen, how often? 5 times a year in the US? If that is the case, why are we wasting our time, money, energy, emotion... on something that rarely really happens???
Wow Paul straight forward and honest not going to get that out of any of the other candidates they would give a big fancy twist to it. Paul is straight forward and honest sounds like a guy that has been in this situation. He says he not going to be able to please everybody in that situation wow straight forward and honest.
It wasn't a prepared response, he used one of Piers' words so no big deal. Beside, it was a theoretical situation involving a family member, arguably more offensive and you might expect a slightly fumbled response.
It depends how you define a human life. Let me ask you - At what point does human life begin on your view? And what scientific evidence do you have to support your answer? Thanks, I'd like to hear back from you as it seems that the scientific evidence clearly shows that life begins at conception.
Ron Paul is right. the first 3-5 days after fertilization the egg is tumbling down the uterine tube awaiting implantation in the Uterus. If someone is raped, go into the ER and get the DNA swab to help catch the perpetrator and the shot of estrogen to prevent implantation. The fertilized egg continues out of the mother just like many fertilized eggs go that do not implant. If it was just casual sex, you already made your decision and there is a consequence for the decision.
Main media have they asked Romney, Newt, Rick the same scenario NO! He didn't dodge the question he answered from a man who has 20 years of experience delivering babies. Was given a hard ugly scenario. If it is a pregnancy and there is life does that woman have the right to kill the baby should be the question asked. Piers no guts but Paul does he answered rather than walk off. He offered a honest quick answer there is no conception yet give estrogen and make sure there is no conception.
If people bring up the rape argument they have list there point. Let's all agree that normal abortions are bad and then we can discuss rape or is the rape just an excuse to justify the murder of baby's
Life does begin at conception. The baby shouldn't have to die nor should life be prevented from happening if that is what happens. The Mother can choose to give the baby up for adoption or keep the baby. It's not the baby's fault.
Wow that was substantive, you succeeded in determining a person's gender. That is how "ya learn em. Tell em what their gender is." I am not even against abortion, I have always supported a woman's freedom to choose, but this rape analogy was one that I USED and my friends used. Now I want everyone to be completely honest. Despite your trollness, I will ask: What are your thoughts on the "hypothetical pregnant rape victim?" Is it relevant?
"I suppose it just depends who you talk to..." But your "level of passion" on a topic, does not deem that topic to all of the sudden "become more important." There is no lack of passion about or against abortion in the us. But I wonder; what's the point? No matter if "one side wins," say abortion is made illegal again... We will still have a "great passion" for the topic, and we still have the problems associated with people STILL CHOOSING abortion even illegally. So it is endless.
Yes I’m sure it will still happen but at least it won’t be legal, so because people are still gonna do it anyway therefore to be legal now that’s nonsense, people are still going to murder people I guess it should be legal then. Is that what you were trying to say.
He seems to be the only republican candidate that know that it takes a long time for a sperm to reach the egg. The morning after pill doesn't stop the fetus it just stops the ovulation.
Ron Paul was The last hope for the United States
I thought that as well till Trump won. My apathy cured by Ron Paul 2007 destroyed by the RNC DNC MSM the Deep State in 2012. It looked pretty bad. Night of the election (2016) I fell asleep and awoke just in time to witness a freaking miracle. Imagine how we were relayed American history/folk tales when we were kids. Johnny Apple Seed, Mayflower, Philadelphia, Rɘvo⅃ution, Evacuation Day.....Our great grand kids will be hearing about Jan 20th 2017 the same way. God Bless our President.
Adam Wintetbottom rand paul.
Wtf Trump is still the wrong choice. Hillary was just an even worse choice..........
Adam Wintetbottom I think he's coming back!
I like his son. Hopefully his son wins the Whitehouse some day.
Dude was so honest.
Piers Morgan trying to explain abortion to OB/GYN Ron Paul reminds me of him trying to expain the constitution to Justice Scalia.
Patriot Jefferson relax
@@ShiroIMKS Throw globalism in the trash where it belongs. It is a serious threat.
Yeah, this guy thought the Pythagoras' theorem was Pi, how is he still a public figure?
@@dstuddard4u globalism is based.
Globalism is capitalism
Globalism is free trade
Globalism is open borders
Ron Paul LITERALLY just explained that he doesn't understand abortion right there is the video.
Deport Piers Morgan!
Piers is really disgusting-using such a hypothetical. Could have easily asked the question in general terms.
Typical leftist tactics to bring someones own children into the situation to encourage people to think less rationally.
Ron Paul is capable of dealing with tough questions. That is why he is so awesome. No need for kid gloves.
No. Hes asking rational legitimate questions. Dont demonize him because he holds a viewpoint you don't like.
@@arlobubble3748 no. Being prolife myself i fully comprehend how hairs are split here.
Most prochoice advocates are NOT monsters. Almost 90% love children. Being either PROCHOICE or PROLIFE is NOT an easy position to take. Both have valid arguments.
For one theres a huge difference between murdering your baby because its viewed as an unwanted inconvenience and having a safe painless abortion because you have few to no other options.
Lets say youre in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia where they stone rape victims or you had an affair outside of marriage. You know this so you dont tell anyone. You discover your pregnant. You know its a death sentence if your family finds out. Your radical Islamist faith says you should be stoned. Its not just backed by Sunni ideology. Its also backed by the LAW. They now have help from organizations and ministries who help women who have pregnancies outside of marriage keep their babies. But theirs not enough of them. When you know that you live in a world that will murder both you and your baby you know theres not enough time to flee to somewhere without your family finding out...a safe painless abortion is most likely the most humane thing that could happen to the baby. The rates of infanticide and foeticide in these countries are off the chart. You have NO CLUE...NONE...of what will be done to that baby. This situation is about saving someones life and protecting someone destined to die from a horrific death.
This isnt about MY BODY MY CHOICE. This is about making choices with few options. And it just might be that killing your baby might be part of the choice to save you and your family. Abortion is often about being given limited to no options.
I think he is very respectful to Dr. Paul and hypoteticals is how you analyze a situation like this. What bothers me is that they did not post his whole response
Ron Paul is a honest person.
That is the right answer both morally and medically. Piers obviously has no idea when conception happens and maybe after this he will study up on how babies are made, but I like what Dr. Paul said.
100%. Although this is the problem with being a public figure who’s both very smart and not especially articulate. It’s the right answer but perhaps not phrased properly for a general audience because Paul isn’t connecting every dot.
Piers is an abject moron but he knows how to shit-stir. He asks hard questions, he's just too dumb to comprehend the responses.
People seems to forget that Ron Paul is a gynecologist
A really shit one, lol.
@@popdop0074 how so?
his job is to deliver babies, not terminate them. what do people expect?
@@popdop0074 nope
@Thanos: And why do you support white supremacy?
Its a shame he never won.
He won but the RN and media put a lid on it. In the primary in NH/ IA
@@Iz0pen yea..i still think he was the people choice. They stole that election from him.
I wish he was at-least Vice President
@@rafaelc9299 right. Hell wish he won..
@@rafaelc9299 wish would have ran now
I'm 17 and Ron Paul is my political idol
He's mine too. I'm 21.
"political idol".
I`m from Poland but I live in the USA and i voted for Ron Paul
Ben Gilbert same and I’m 18
Join Young Americans for liberty if you can. It's his organization.
Dr. Ron paul is a person we will all regret about in the future. We need selfless leaders like him.
Well... his actual views are, it's not up to the govt to decide if we can have abortions or not. The govt has no right to control us in any way.
Sounds arrogant of me to think that I know his views. But after a decade of observation on what his views are, I'm confident to say what they are. If I am wrong I would hope someone would point it out
He is pro-life and thinks abortion is a state issue. He wants the states to ban abortion individually.
If you murder a pregnant woman on federal property you are charged with double homicide.
@@carterbrown2441 That alone still is a violation of free choices. If one state can allow it but then another ban it, that’s not freedom.
@@SkinnyEMedia I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but this is what he says. If it was up to me, the right to life would be protected at a federal level.
Ron Paul believes life begins at conception - NOT erection. That's the difference, Piers.
Explain
The sperm is not a human developing in the embryo. Biology 101
@@ayatollahvladimirputin3844 what.
@@pleaseenteraname1103 I forgot, I think I meant semen isn't a baby?
It takes up to 6 days for conception to happen.
Yes, that's what I thought! From
www.plannedparenthood.org
: "Pregnancy doesn't start the day you have sex - it can take up to six days after sex for the sperm and egg to join and form a fertilized egg."
So, a rape victim can take a "morning-after" pill and avoid any potential pregnancy. No risk a no human life taken.
@@andres.e. not only a rape victim - everyone who doesn't want to get pregnant
@@zacnieprawisz9171 Exactly! I just wanted to show the most extreme case, but you're right.
@@andres.e. very true, but he does have a point, a lot of people aren’t talking about an unfertilized egg, they are talking about killing a pre born in the womb.
Btw. I appreciate Paul’s attempt to come up with solutions.
I never view any politicians as a moral authority. But Ron Paul comes about as close as it gets in his field to just that.
This was 9 year's ago in 2021 we still having the same bullshit debate. 😒🤦🏾♂️
GOP had their chance to do the right thing, and they buried him.
First time I saw this. How disgusting Piers and his gyno-advertising friendly overlords are. Ron Paul did his part, and has my utmost respect. Lamestream media is complicit in the fall of Western civilization.
One day abortion will be abolished and history will look back on the practice with the same critical view that we look back on slave ownership today.
I recommend watching a video that Frontline did on abortion back in the 80s. They take no stance on the subject, but just give the audience real stories about typical abortions. I will caution that it takes a brave person to watch such a documentary.
The practice of abortion is senseless, barbaric, and will be ended.
We really missed a great president with Mr Paul
The greatest president we never had.
they would never let that happen...
Rape and abortion. The two most difficult things society does not understand mixed together to make the ultimate melting pot of complexity.
doublea125 To decide the whole question of abortion on the basis of a violent crime is insane. To violently kill a baby because of rape does not punish the rapist it kills the innocent baby. Why oh why is this so hard to understand. Ron Paul rightly states that rape is an immediate medical emergency as well as a crime. The woman should be at the ER receiving medical care and comfort with police presence.
Chuck W Seriously. What woman gets raped and then waits 6 months to abort? No one in their right mind thinks a woman should be forced to carry a rapists child. But no one in their right mind thinks a woman would wait that long either. If they do wait that long, why can’t they put that baby up for adoption???
Orange Man Bad Yes, agreed.
Rape accounts for less than 1 percent of abortions performed today.
@@Moneyman-33 I wouldn't want a woman to be forced to carry a rapist's child. The rapist forced that on her. Not wanting to kill the baby is a completely separate, pressing concern.
Either way, the baby is purely innocent.
This was framed terribly by piers Morgan
Ron Paul and other gynos are the only men on the planet who should have a right to speak on this issue with any credibility. Ron delivered kids. He has a pretty good idea when life begins. He can cut through the crap on the Left AND the Right. I support a woman's right to choose unconditionally because so many factors are at play, but Ron's position I totally respect. He has lived this so he is one of the few men who can speak to this issue with credibility.
What about the rights of the unborn child? Unless the woman was raped, she had a choice she made that led to the conception in the first place and must accept the consequences.
Carnivore Bear are you calling a baby a consequence?
Sue Starlite unless you believe in immaculate conception- that people can just spontaneously get pregnant like the Virgin Mary...
Do you believe that? Do you think pregnancy is *not* a consequence? Do you think that storks bring you babies when they think you’re ready? Did your parents ever have “the talk” with you?
@@veronicasuestarlite4080 yeah that's not what consequence means
@@Idalychare you calling me "retarded" as an insult? What about consequences that are born retarded, do you see them as "less than you, something to insult? A person to make fun of? Do you think it's fair to bring a child into the world for others to make fun of and insult? You're a real upstanding human being. Let me watch you back peddle and turn your insult back around on me, like you did your "consequence". Actually, you should just stop writing. You're the type of person that should only carry a sign and not speak. Not join me when I speak to Congress about murdering babies.
here in 2021, they don't even talk about one minute before the baby is born, now they just put it aside and execute it
They already brainwashed the children let alone hollyweird
"They're so ashamed of what's happened..."
Think about that for a second. The only thing that could make them "ashamed" is a culture that vilifies the victim of the rape. Instead of empowering them to do something about it. That's you, Piers, and every other person who wants to play this game of "they're so ashamed".
And what Dr. Paul said is 100% correct. He would encourage the woman to go to the ER, get treated for any abuse and harm, get treated with Estrogen or any other preventive car, AND THEN THE POLICE WILL BE CALLED IN FOR CHARGES TO BE FILED, AND THE SCUM TAKEN OFF THE STREETS!
Thanks CNN for truly ruining the chances of having the best President of our time! Listening to a Brit instead of an American. #GFYS
The problem with the rape example, as valid as it is, is that the pro-abortion or pro-choice side STILL believes that abortion is okay, even in consensual sex, which is the majority of the time. If you believe that it's a woman's choice in any scenario, then it ultimately doesn't matter whether the pregnancy was a result of rape or not. So why bring it up?
More needs to be done to prevent rape. When it does occur, people need to get to the ER ASAP (as Dr. Paul said) and they need to be offered hormonal injections and such to prevent a conception, and treated for any other injuries that may have happened during the rape.
I also believe that rapists need to be castrated. We can't go policing the bodies of innocent women that have experienced this horrific crime, then let rapists roam the streets with their weapon.
I know of a 11 year old child raped on her way home from school. She got pregnant and had know ideal that she was with child. Had child without any support. Keeping the child. Hounded by government to tell who was Daddy. If Daddy was known rape charges would have been filled. Such a burden on such a young girl. Baby was half black and a huge child. Whenever a person of any age is raped they should be given the day after pill no questions asked. This child's life and dreams were destroyed.
"Well, then you'd be taking a life"
"Well, you don't know if you're taking a life either"
Ron Paul's wisdom.
Schroedinger's zygote...
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That's the one part KI didn't understand as french man. What does he mean?
To decide the whole question of abortion on the basis of a violent crime is insane. To violently kill a baby because of rape does not punish the rapist it kills the innocent baby. Why oh why is this so hard to understand. Ron Paul rightly states that rape is an immediate medical emergency as well as a crime. The woman should be at the ER receiving medical care and comfort with police presence.
flerper derper - that’s Ron Paul sitting on the fence, with his politician hat on!
I agree with Ron Paul completely not every impregnated women was or is raped that’s a fallacy but however I will still eradicate abortion
I JUST DONATED $10,000 TO THE PAUL CAMPAIGN VIA REVOLUTION PAC!!!!
Ron Paul slapped the crap out of Piers. Ronny did it!
Life but in the case of an actual r@pe then an hour or couple of hours after of course, 9 months later hell no! Everything else take some dang responsibility.
I want Ron to be cloned so his young version can run for president again
Are you saying Rand isn't close enough to the real deal? 🤣
@@Ricky_Evans1611 he's not lol
Life begins at conception not at intercourse.
When it comes to abortion they always bring up rape. If a woman has been raped then she needs to go get checked out and make sure she is not pregnant not wait till its to late.
Can you honestly say you'd do that? Men have been victims of rape and they don't say anything primarily because of shame. Women have the factor of shame and fear, we're the only ones that have to worry about being impregnated by a rape. So that part of being a rape victim is a nonfactor for Male rape victims. So you have shame, fear, STDs, etc for both men and women but pregnancy is also a reality for women only. So if if the other factors paralyze rape victims in getting help initially, it is wrong to say a woman should've rushed and reported the rape as well as get checked out. If a woman feels she can love and care for a child produced by rape then that's great but if she can't and it's within a medically approved time period then she has every right to do as she feels she needs to.
He would be perfect for a president
This is a fair perspective. The abortion should be determined based on the merits of each case not a general rule.
Why? Unless there is a threat to the mother's life that could be countered by an abortion (I'm not convinced of what exactly that would entail... from what I hear, premature delivery is the safer option in those scenarios for both mother and child) why should it ever be legal to kill the child?
@@owlblocksdavid4955 Negative, what about pregnancy due to rape !?!. This is a crime, I couldn't see a more compelling reason for an abortion it be performed and immediately; as a part of the long path of treatment for this victim either physically and psychologically.
it is not about "killing a child" it is about an early medical intervention in the first 24 to 48 hours for the benefit of the victim.
Notice : it is not a "mother" , it is a "victim".
It is not killing a child it is fixing a mistake that could have a disastrous consequences for the victim, besides it is still a cluster of cells, not even an embryo.
Piers Morgan, my respect for you has just been evaporated.
Why
He's putting an opinion under pressure asking honest questions, if that offends you, you may need to rethink your views
You had respect for him?
The msm back when Dr. Paul was running for president ignored him when it mattered the most. When they had him in interviews they try to back him into a corner or show sound bites. Now days it Amazing the consult him for different topics like he matters if it serves the MSM agenda. The disappointment here is that those two elections ('08 and '12) back then people went for the same bozo not once but twice.
I proudly voted for him in 2008 and 2012
Two wrongs never make a right!
0:40 That is not an abortion. Preventing conception is not abortion.
No - My comment had a spelling error which I cleared up. I very quickly fixed it and my comment is still there in the comments below. Scroll down.
The analogy is perfect, in the sense that in both situations, there may or may not be human life there. And in both situations, you have the choice to go ahead and do it, regardless of any possibility of human life. Of course it's not analogous with the exact steps and emotions (just like any possible analogy), but the principle is identical.
I agree with Dr. Paul.
Life begins at conception. if you leave a sperm cell for 9 months, you have a sperm cell. If you leave an unfertilized egg for 9 months it will be an egg. (given the sperm and egg would be discharged from the body long before 9 months) Leave a tumor for 9 months you have a [bigger] tumor. leave a fertilized egg for 9 months you have a new sentient being,
Conception take 1-4 days for completion, so the next day pill is not abortion
I don't believer it's too barbaric. The death penalty is more barbaric than castration (especially chemical castration.) The criminal agrees to the punishment when the criminal commits the crime. if they don't want the punishment, they won't commit the crime. Chemical or physical castration would protect others by calming the rapist, and sterilize him, so we can protect innocent girls/women from being put in situations like the hypothetical one used in the video.
ABORTION SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED INCOUNTRIES LIKE SCANDINAVIA OR BENELUX ICELAND OR GREENLAND , YET WOULD IT NOT APPLY FOR COUNTRIES WITH MILLIONS TO BILLIONS OF PEOPLE WITH SO MANY HUGE CITIES WHERE THERE IS LITTLE PROSPECT OF MAKING A CRIME FREE LIVING???!!!
We do not punish the son for the crimes of the father!!! PERIOD!!!
"If it's an honest rape". What about a dishonest one? "You don't know if you're taking a life". Kinda like aeriel bombardments. Con Fall made more sense during his stroke.
This is where I part with Ron Paul and agree with Judge Nap. Life begins at Implantation. Not all the factors are there when an egg is simply fertilized. Otherwise we would call the depo shot pill etc. continuous abortion.
The question becomes what is the value of potential human life. is an embryo of less value than a zygote of fetus? is a baby of less worth than an adult? Is a human zygote of more or less value than cattle?
What is the difference between prevention and potential?
Michael Black I lean with you on this that implantation is necessary for survival. Yet and then anything that we do to interfere with that implantation interferes with natural process of growth such that if I were being a purist I would have to say that I support the protection of all embryos. The extinction of human life is a crime. Interfering with the sensitive environment that provides for that life is criminal. If I change my cars oil and dump the old stuff in the river I am going to pay a very large penalty yet if I interfere with a human with all of its DNA intact I am just practicing family planning. Nope an embryo is a baby whether you are an atheist or a Christian. It’s science.
Common sense view thank you Dr.
Ron Paul is 100% correct on this issue.
Cornerstones of libertarianism are individual liberty, limited government, and self-ownership.
Abortion bans violate all these principles.
being rape doesnt mean you're pregnant. theres like a 4 day period where you can get pregnant in between pregnancies. You realize how hard it actually is to get pregnant once you start trying.
Too bad this man never became our president.
Ron believes the issue should be handled at the state level, so states could have exceptions for rape.
No.
adoption?
avhosa for the baby born from the rape?
Thank you.
Funnt thing is americans don't adopt enough
rapists don't deserve to have their genes passed on
Ron Paul is the goat
The problem with the abortion debate is it involves two moving parts A: the government's authority to regulate the act of abortion and B: the moral dilemma of human life. The question comes down to what is a life? Ultimately I think it's an ALL or NOTHING proposition. Either you believe all abortions are legal/moral or they're not because you cannot pick and choose what constitutes a life. With that said I think there are of course exceptions to the rule, like life of the mother or rape/incest which 99% of people would agree are valid grounds for abortion. It's a really complicated issue but I have to say Ron Paul is a really good candidate
abortion is such a tough issue...it really is.
tommyrgrs Tough but simple. Science says it’s a baby with all of its unique DNA on board at conception as an embryo. The debate then ensues from there; “when does a humans life have a legal right to protection”? Does an elderly person with low awareness and low cognition who is costing a lot of money to care for lose those rights? Does a baby with a malformed spine who is likely to die soon after birth have those rights? Is it more compassionate to abort a severely deformed baby when normally these are miscarriages anyway? But these are the outliers in the debate and used as the tail wags the dog argument. The great majority of abortions are performed on healthy young women and the baby is usually over 8-12 weeks old. This is the intentional and very brutal ending of human life and it is for convenience. These babies could be carried to term and adopted with not really much inconvenience to the young mother. She could still go to work and school right up to birth, and know deep down for the rest of her life that she did something beautiful and noble. And with those months to reconsider she may choose to keep her child and raise that child as her own. Is this not the way better choice? Every year on that child’s birthday they would both celebrate that choice.
No! You are wrong. It's not when conscientiousness begins, it's when a HUMAN life is formed. The cells that go through a man and woman are definitely "alive", but they aren't human. When the egg meets the sperm, that is when it goes beyond mere cell life to human life.
I agree more needs to done to prevent rape, but castration? What if you find out (as has occurred numerous time in the past), you got the wrong person. Irreversible punishments doled out by an imperfect judicial system is a recipe for tyranny. Rape is a horrible, heinous crime, but you do not combat barbarism with more barbarism.
I do not agree with Ron Paul's logic on this one, but at least he is able to reason through some of the complexities of the issue. It is not as simple as we think.
No, that is not what we are talking about here, We are not discussing an 'autonomous human life' we are talking about a first-trimester potential human life during a process that sees many miscarriages in that same time frame.
"You're either this or that".
This is the most reasonable thing I've heard any politician say about abortion.
Honestly, even though I would consider myself pro life, I have to agree before the egg is fertilized it’s just an egg it has no chance of accidentally coming to life. But I would also have to agree once there is a chance of life with a fertilized egg I believe it automatically has the right to choose its own life.
It's not about biological or pseudo scientific facts but the vulgarization of life.
I think he was saying conception doesn't happen immediately, but within the span of 24 hours. At least I hope so
There's no way to know that an egg has been fertilized and has implanted within that timeframe.
Has no one heard of evictionism by now?
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@1cont you're right. So conception doesn't really occur medically for 3-5 days, therefore you have ample time to get to a police station or find a friend who can take you to the hospital. It's not as if after being raped, you're immediately pregnant and have to on moral grounds keep the kid. Life DOES begin at conception...it just doesn't begin at erection. Sorry, Frothy.
He forgot Ron Paul was an OB/GYN
Cnn has changed
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He does not always bad mouth the U.S. I have heard him call it a great country many times. He's just on the wrong side of this gun control issue. And i'm sure he is a U.S. citizen. After all he does work for an American Liberal News Network, CNN.
Oh don’t even get me started on how terrible his view on gun control is.
It take time for fertilization to happen.
I wouldn't say you showed dr. Paul explaining much, this is a 2.5 minute video cnn.
I hear this "if you were raped..." analogy all the time. Ron Paul makes the BEST POINT. If you were raped, why not take the morning after pill? Analogy moot.
And even though this is a good analogy for a philosophical debate, is it statistically AN ISSUE? I mean does the "pregnant after rape" really happen, how often? 5 times a year in the US? If that is the case, why are we wasting our time, money, energy, emotion... on something that rarely really happens???
So it doesn't matter if you kill someone or not because you don't know if you have or not? That's essentially his logic right there.
I respect Ron Paul, but he could have handled this better
What does the shot of estrogen do ?
Why are they asking this BS? What about the REAL issues?!
Wow Paul straight forward and honest not going to get that out of any of the other candidates they would give a big fancy twist to it. Paul is straight forward and honest sounds like a guy that has been in this situation. He says he not going to be able to please everybody in that situation wow straight forward and honest.
It wasn't a prepared response, he used one of Piers' words so no big deal. Beside, it was a theoretical situation involving a family member, arguably more offensive and you might expect a slightly fumbled response.
I Like Ron Paul in Terms of Economy and many aspects. But disagree with him in this specific topic. Despite that, I Support him
It depends how you define a human life. Let me ask you - At what point does human life begin on your view? And what scientific evidence do you have to support your answer?
Thanks, I'd like to hear back from you as it seems that the scientific evidence clearly shows that life begins at conception.
Tom Denman It does. No debate here. It’s science.
Ron Paul is right. the first 3-5 days after fertilization the egg is tumbling down the uterine tube awaiting implantation in the Uterus. If someone is raped, go into the ER and get the DNA swab to help catch the perpetrator and the shot of estrogen to prevent implantation. The fertilized egg continues out of the mother just like many fertilized eggs go that do not implant. If it was just casual sex, you already made your decision and there is a consequence for the decision.
Ron Paul is too Real for politics 💯
Ron Paul for President!
Man I miss Ron Paul. He was not perfect, but he spoke plainly and love that he is pro life.
Main media have they asked Romney, Newt, Rick the same scenario NO! He didn't dodge the question he answered from a man who has 20 years of experience delivering babies. Was given a hard ugly scenario. If it is a pregnancy and there is life does that woman have the right to kill the baby should be the question asked. Piers no guts but Paul does he answered rather than walk off. He offered a honest quick answer there is no conception yet give estrogen and make sure there is no conception.
Woman's choice but we need to abort the industrial abortion complex. This issue always rises up before elections
If people bring up the rape argument they have list there point. Let's all agree that normal abortions are bad and then we can discuss rape or is the rape just an excuse to justify the murder of baby's
Life does begin at conception. The baby shouldn't have to die nor should life be prevented from happening if that is what happens. The Mother can choose to give the baby up for adoption or keep the baby. It's not the baby's fault.
Wow that was substantive, you succeeded in determining a person's gender. That is how "ya learn em. Tell em what their gender is."
I am not even against abortion, I have always supported a woman's freedom to choose, but this rape analogy was one that I USED and my friends used.
Now I want everyone to be completely honest.
Despite your trollness, I will ask: What are your thoughts on the "hypothetical pregnant rape victim?" Is it relevant?
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I would like Ron Paul a lot better if he didn't sit on the fence on what life is.
"I suppose it just depends who you talk to..."
But your "level of passion" on a topic, does not deem that topic to all of the sudden "become more important." There is no lack of passion about or against abortion in the us.
But I wonder; what's the point?
No matter if "one side wins," say abortion is made illegal again... We will still have a "great passion" for the topic, and we still have the problems associated with people STILL CHOOSING abortion even illegally. So it is endless.
Yes I’m sure it will still happen but at least it won’t be legal, so because people are still gonna do it anyway therefore to be legal now that’s nonsense, people are still going to murder people I guess it should be legal then. Is that what you were trying to say.
He seems to be the only republican candidate that know that it takes a long time for a sperm to reach the egg. The morning after pill doesn't stop the fetus it just stops the ovulation.
It's a issue, But it's not AS big as those other issues that have a much greater affect on the American people