This Is What I Saw In Supreme Court Hearing On Idaho Abortion Case: National Women's Law Center CEO
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- Fatima Goss Graves, CEO of the National Women's Law Center, joins "Forbes Newsroom" to discuss what she saw in today's Supreme Court hearing of oral arguments in Moyle v. United States, a landmark case that could affect reproductive rights nationwide.
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Wouldn't siding with Idaho mean states law can overrule federal law? That would demolish all federal laws
Calling anti-abortionists "pro-life" is a misnomer. They aren't pro-life, or they'd also all be against the death penalty, against qualified immunity for cops who recklessly and unnecessarily murder citizens, and in favor of Trans rights & gender-affirming medical care (to prevent self-deletion in the Trans community).
They'd also value women's quality of life more than the hypothetical idea of some grand purpose this fetus may or may not have if they're born.
Or they'd be against cars and planes, since people die because of these also.
Whataboutisms
So, in other words, you're pro-death. Got it.
I used to be pro-choice, then for many years I considered myself pro-life. Now I am an abolitionist. Abortion should be outlawed, because it's wrong to take the life of another human being unless it's in self defense or a punishment for a crime or in war. Abortion is murder. I'm against murder.
What makes me angry here as an Health Care Provider to Women is that Lawyers are deciding medical care Deciding what an emergency is - what the line is between life and death for the Woman
Because you don’t need an abortion to save the mother’s life. My wife had a placental abruption at 7 months. An emergency c section saved her life and my sons. Tell me another nightmare scenario worse than a placental abruption that requires an abortion to save the life of a mother. I’ll wait.
If lawmakers didn’t decide what an ‘emergency’ is, then it would be left blank and then open to a judge/jury to determine, in any given case, what an ‘emergency’ is. And prosecutors would have discretion on prosecuting anything that looks like a procedure that isn’t an ‘emergency’. It’s unclear what you are advocating for. Legislatures make laws. They make laws governing health care, engineering and building codes, traffic, farm animals, what kind of milk you can and can’t sell, etc. do you want somebody other than lawmakers making law? Or are you against the very idea of law? Medical organizations have huge lobbies and pour countless dollars to lawmakers to have their interests heard. Voters vote for lawmakers. Do you want some kind of dictatorship when it comes to healthcare so that only some private unelected body of health care providers create health care law? And maybe big oil should determine our oil policy, esp with regard to the environmental impacts?
@@Shadowbanned4LyfeThat was AT 7 MONTHS, dipsh$t
PPROM before viability, preeclampsia before viability, etc etc 🤦🏻♀️
@@RC-qf3mpNo, we are against the idea that doctors are being forced against BEST MEDICAL PRACTICE to follow BS ‘lawmakers’ abortion bans. Women with wanted pregnancies that go wrong are not given life or health saving best medical care, instead turned away from ER rooms because doctors don’t want to deal with legal problems regarding these ridiculous bans. Lawmakers should not be playing doctor. They should only require medical boards to decide among actual experienced healthcare professionals to come up with standards (which they have already). These options should be then presented to pregnant women to decide what’s best for their lives and health, what risks they are willing to take.
100%
Abortion rights should be protected everywhere.
I completely agree. We have to vote out anti-abortion extremists.
There is no right to abortion, thanks to Dobbs. You want a right, vote for people to create laws for those rights. It’s not the courts job to make up rights.
Murder rights for all eh? Why stop at just small children, so illogical
“Abortion is murder im ok with” - Bill Maher
“Abortion is healthcare” - actual medical professionals
Maher-calling a spade a spade. He's so good at that.
It's too bad that lawyers have to get these laws all worked out and definitions and limits written down. But it does have to be so.
Those in favor of abortion on demand will always push the limits to get abortions done. If the "emergency" definition is loose enough - then "emergency abortions" will become as commonplace as "asylum claims" have been for 11 million people in the past three years.
‘Abortion on demand’… do you mean elective abortions? When a woman states her request for an elective abortion? This is all of a sudden ‘a demand’? Or maybe doctors are supposed to read minds? It actually doesn’t “have to be so”. We could keep government out of our private health decisions. But sure, inflate the number of elective abortions you think would occur along with your inflated number of asylum seekers.
Annoying video. She was presented as an expert but made political statements and openly avoided giving any actual legal analysis.
There's no argument with State Abortion Laws. Follow your State Law. The U.S. Supreme Court main purpose is to interpret the law. This woman can say whatever she wants it's her opinion and she's entitled to one.
These people are talking as if the baby has no say in the matter. It's sick how they avoid that discussion.
Lol… proving once again the ignorance of anti-abortion views. This isn’t even about elective abortions, but please, tell me how ‘the baby’ would ‘have a say’?!? 🤦🏻♀️
It’s SICK you being so ignorant on this matter, frankly.
Wtf does it matter what a fetus thinks about hypertension? Does septic shock not exist in your world?
I'm thinking this case was more about the Mother's health because only Alito brought up two person rights. Idk though.
The “greatest country in the world” is still arguing about abortions. You guys break me up.
trump caused all of this. We were fine for 50 years.
If you don't want a baby. Then have no sex or protected sex. Killing an unborn baby is MURDER
This case isn’t about elective abortions. It’s about when pregnancies go wrong and the health issues of the pregnant woman.
Great, what does that have to do with people dying from preeclampsia?
You realize rape exists, right?
Rape? Incest? Are do you blame the woman in those cases too? How about 12 yos? Should they have their bodies ripped apart cause some sperm producer took advantage of their inexperience and lack of physical strength?
@@jennifernoyb6432no is not.
Idaho allows for abortion for rape, incest, and serious health problems to the mother.
Women want power without responsibility.
Jeremiah 1:5 - “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you."
Life is precious. Life is priceless. We always have to err on the side of life. And science tells us that inside the womb is a small human being, just in a different life stage than we are.
Get lost with that silly mumbo jumbo.
The Bible literally gives instructions on how to do abortions
Then err on the side of the woman's life.
Bitter water should be giving to a wife.......right in the bible,plain as day. Vote blue 💙, ty.
@@DeeLynn Absolutely agree with you. When the woman's life is in significant danger due to a pregnancy, then the mother's life must be the priority.
Abortion is not healthcare. Our country has lost its mind.
I'm sorry,but if your water breaks, you're going into labor. Thus, if broken, early nature will take its course. You don't need an abortion! If your having hypertension issues,there are medical things that can bring it down, you don't need an abortion. You may require a c-section which means saving mom and baby. I think it's really sad that your first choice is abortion over the other care you could have.
If Your water breaks prior to 22 weeks the fetus will die and an abortion must be perform to prevent infection If the Fetus is prior to viability (22 weeks) or a tubal pregnancy ? Why would they “ save “ a non viable fetus at the risk to a woman’s life ? ? In the case of Preeclampsia the answer is not to simply bring the blood pressure down- it is to end the Pregnancy to save the woman’s life when the Bo and eclambic seizures can not be controlled and even that puts her very close to death when there is no hope of life for the Fetus. Preeclampsia under 22 weeks is a serious medical emergency that is ended by an abortion I think it’s really sad that these are women with desired pregnancies in serious medical condition and you think all they want is an abortion
Incomplete miscarriage is common and left untreated can cause sepsis. You don’t know what you’re taking about, this case isn’t about elective abortion it’s about healthcare.
I’m sorry but you have absolutely no idea what you’re taking about. There is no ‘baby’ pre-viability in PPROM, nor does preeclampsia always stabilize with medication. That’s the point. LA is forcing women to have major abdominal surgery (c-section) against best medical practice pre-viability. I just cannot stand anti-abortion randos on YT playing doctor. 🤦🏻♀️
I think it’s really sad when people don’t know WTF they’re talking about spread disinformation on YT.
You have less than zero idea what you're talking about. I'm on shift at my hospital right now and an hour ago was in the OR with a woman who was dying because she was hemorrhaging from a miscarriage she had this morning. Your ignorance is beyond words. You prove exactly why no one except Doctors deserve a voice in this discussion