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There's a movie called 'Black 47' that came out a few years ago. A revenge story set during the Potato Famine. It's more a revenge story than a famine story but it still gives a lot of information about the blight and the way it was handled and portrays a lot of the political views of the time, including the belief that the famine was a result of idleness and laziness - as one English soldier who never fought overseas and has clearly planted so much as a daisy in his life said "Food for the contented slave, not for the hearty and the brave". People are hoping this will allow the famine to be portrayed more in the media. Half the movie's in Irish Gaelic as well (with subtitles of course) so that's also a benefit.
The Irish language film Áracht is also really good. I saw it online during galway film fest, if you liked black 47, you'll like this one too
Good thing history never repeats and everyone treats refuges with compassion now.
There is a song by Christy Moore called “City of Chicago” about the famine and the people fleeing to the US. I would love to see you’re reaction to the song
I am very grateful for these videos as it has caused me to go do some digging in my family tree. I actually was able to find my great great great grandfather born in 1840 which is wild to think he was seven years old during this. It’s also amazing to know that my family was able to survive all that. Love your content
The Ulster Irish do have a justification for technically not being Irish (although if you go far enough back some definitely are since many Scottish descend from ancient Irish tribes) they were colonial overseers “imported”, for lack of a better word, from Scotland because the native Irish were seen as unruly by the English
Considering how the British have treated the Ulster population since the plantations. (Both Catholic and protestant communities) loyalism is just a form of Stockholm syndrome. I feel sorry for them.
I always find it crazy how quick a disconnect can happen, as a family of “Ulster scots” who’s family was bought off by the English. We were Celts at one point and a lot of these Ulster Scots (especially west coast Scots) came straight from Ireland. In my mind and although my family may not agree, I was born after most of the troubles was gone, grew up in a mixed religious school where most of my friends were catholic and Protestant and see myself as Irish and if not Irish at least “Northern Irish”
Specifically one Irish tribe - Scoti. Still the closest DNA to Ireland, even after a millennia of invasions, vikings, etc.
Or to quote Stephen Colbert:
"There's no Irish blood in Scots-Irish People. They are Scottish Presbyterians, who were given land in Ireland. THEY TOOK OUR LAND AND DROVE MY PEOPLE ACROSS THE RIVER SHANNON, WHERE WE WERE FORCED TO FARM ROCKS BY OLIVER CROMWELL AND I WILL SEE HIM ROT IN HELL BEFORE YOU CALL SCOTS-IRISH PEOPLE IRISH! DO YOU WANNA FIGHT?!"
Although it was mostly English and some Scottish Anglicans who actually owned the land. Poor and often persecuted Presbyterians fled Scotland and arrived in Ulster. Here they rented the land off the Anglican landlords. Many of the Scots in Ulster fled from a famine in Scotland in the 1690s. Even in Ireland they faced persecution under the Penal Laws alongside Catholics which led to the 1798 Rebellion. It was the aftermath of this with its harsh consequences and the merging of Dissenters and Anglicans into Unionist Protestantism after the 1859 Revival that Presbyterians became anti catholic. The Ulster Presbyterians are to Ireland what Irish Americans are to America
I think it’s great you’re watching these videos... the history known to most non-Irish people in the western world has been written by Anglo-Protestants in Britain & the US. I wanted to add a couple insights about all this:
While they talk a lot about Catholic & Protestant, by the 19th century, the divide was really about Irish & British.
One thing that the video didn’t explain very well/was misleading about, is who the “Ulster-Irish” / “Scots-Irish” (when the video talks about “Irish Protestants” in the US who shat on new Irish immigrants) actually were - and it’s not Irish people. Those people were the British colonists given our land after Cromwell slaughtered, banished, or basically enslaved the natives. To make an analogy, it would be the equivalent of the English colonists in the US calling themselves “English-Native Americans,” which would sound ridiculous since most people know the basics of the American story.
They never identified as Irish during their colonial pit-stop here, so the label is rather ironic... even after living in the colonized north of Ireland for generations now, they STRONGLY self-identify as British - loyal to the British crown (ie loyalists) - and mostly despise all things Irish, seeing us as an “inferior race” (see below).
In other words, they were mortal enemies of the Irish people during their short stay on our lands.
The reason it’s an important distinction s because these “Scots-Irish” were prolific slave holders in the American south, “planted” their by the British government to build or expand new colonies, just as they had done in Ireland. Except in Ireland, they didn’t have to rip people from their homelands and ship them to the plantations as they did in the US, they already had a destitute, desperate, and pretty much defenseless (starving, sickly men with pitchforks vs well fed soldiers with guns) population to perform their manual labor. They were one of the primary ethnic groups behind the Confederacy in the US Civil War, while a vast majority of the native Irish who arrived in the US during, or shortly after the “famine” fought for the Union. Also, these are the same people who started the KKK (the “klan” comes from their Scottish roots), which carried on their hatred of the Irish & Catholics. In fact, Notre Dame “Fighting Irish” comes from an event where the KKK came into South Bend to get them some Irish Catholic scalps that ended in the Irish lads mopping the streets with their pillow-cased heads.
They have a core belief in their own superiority and a disproportionate number of them retain those beliefs, whether in their colonized “Northern Ireland” (or what we call “the 6 Counties,” as I don’t recognize or accept the legitimacy of a British border or colonial state within Ireland - but am committed to a peaceful resolution) or in the US. So terms “Scots-Irish” / “Ulster-Scots” is used by the historically mortal enemies of Ireland and her people. The ones that still live in Ireland refer to themselves as Brits, loyal to the crown. They plaster English & UK flags everywhere while burning Irish flags, while living in Ireland, in their big public displays. In fact, we have 20 meter high security walls (“peace walls”) that separate our communities in the northern cities of Derry & Belfast to this day. It’s sad, but these are rather disagreeable people (the ones that retain that core ideology of superiority they use to justify whatever they like, whether in the US, South Africa, or Ireland). “Evangelical Christians” - as hypocritical here in Belfast (see: Ian Paisley) as they seem to be in the “American heartland” (or whatever)
That was far longer than intended. I may have blacked out halfway through.
Thankyou for introducing me to this series. My 5 year old and I have really enjoyed watching these videos.
outstanding content Devon DaVinci. I killed the thumbs up on your video. Continue to keep up the really good work.
Any American claiming to be Irish American and against immigration needs to learn this history. Same with Irish in Ireland too.
Absolute Muppet in fairness for the most part they’re shamed back home
This is the video that out of into perspective for me and I share it any chance I can.
It's one struggle. We all have to fight together for a decent better world.
www.reddit.com/r/IrishHistory/comments/ayjnwm/an_absolute_cracking_piece_of_history_a_clip_from/
Tomás Ó hÉigeartuigh it’s definitely quite the shame although it’s great to see that in my area and community there are Syrian refugee families that have become part of the community and treated like anyone else, my Syrian neighbours with the amount of work they’re putting in with night courses, learning to drive and such they put my work effort to shame for the most part lol
I don't even think there are many Americans that are against immigration at all. It seems to be widely accepted across party lines. Something like 75% of Republicans were supportive of Afghan refugees entering the US for example. Illegal immigration is usually where the contention lies.
John joesph Hughes is a film I'd wanna see, obviously played by Liam Neeson.
Ulster Scots or Scots Irish are actually Scottish settlers to Ulster province Ireland.
thanks great stuff
It was not a famine. It was a holocost perpetrated by the British.
@@adam-uy6qg www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/09/27/the-irish-famine-complicity-in-murder/5a155118-3620-4145-951e-0dc46933b84a/
@@adam-uy6qg Why?
@@duffblimp9888 because for one Britain gave aid money, not alot but still also at this time Britain basically owned Ireland if Britain wanted to pretty much destroy Ireland they could have and they wouldn't have let other countries give Ireland aid.
@@adam-uy6qg As you said they " gave not a lot", but they also tried to persuade others that were going to give more to not give more so that their stiff upper lip didn't quiver and they were not embarrassed. The richest nation back then allowed more than a million to die. More than a million emigrated, and the size of population still hasn't recovered to this day. Why was food such as grain, barley, flour, and meat exported from Ireland to Britain during this time, and why did some of the worst affected areas get even more food exported from it. This was more than simply a famine. There was plenty of food, and the British took it. If they wanted this artificial famine to "teach" the Irish to be more able to look after themselves, then maybe they should have allowed them to own their own land, rather than giving the ultimatum, "give us your land or starve", allow education. The superior attitude - being white and Protestant. Oh, and your first response to someone is to call them a "moron" does your opinion no favours.
@@adam-uy6qg I suggest you learn more Irish history before being rude.
10:13 Ah yeah, that's the thinkin' that got the Celtic Tiger to happen.
Black 47 refers to the year 1847. Black is believed to refer to death from starving.
8:57 that's also familiar isn't it ?
Hey Devon, I'm only just starting to get into your videos, but I must say, I appreciate what you're doing. You're turning this shit on it's head. You have no idea how much I appreciate "white" culture being analysed by an intelligent person. I also appreciate your empathy. What you are doing is awesome!!!
On a personal level, if you could direct me to some similar stuff about the African arrivals into the USA, I would be extremely happy. I need to learn some shit. I'm Australian, BTW. I also know that all the good music comes from Africa. [edit]Actually, that's not entirely true, the true people of Australia make incredible music. Just not the white guys, so much.[/edit]
It depends, do you mean Africans as in Black Americans? Or do you mean African Immigrants? Because I can't really help you on the Immigrants, but if you'd like to learn about Black American history I may be able to help you.
@@DevonDaVinci Black American history, please, sir.
@@maqimusic When it comes to America as an established country Blacks were brought in as slaves. But, there was a time when the colonies first settled that had slavery but it wasn't race based. There was a specific legal case that people use to pinpoint when races started to be used to discriminate. I forgot the name of it but if you search "when did slavery in America become race based?" it may give you the case.
@@DevonDaVinci Thanks, man. I haven't located the case as yet, but that search has opened up a heap of articles and sites to check out. Thanks for the suggestion :)
Sudgestion watch the policing of London series next......
You should hear " the fields of ATHINRIGH
Athenry*
The potato blight, P. infestans hit much of N Europe in 1847, though this was not the only potato blight to hit Ireland, with several over the previous century. Ireland did have a surplus of food production, but the British dominance on land ownership, fuedal rents and food exports from Ireland to Liverpool, meant the Irish had little left to live on apart from potato, after paying their extortionate rents. Evenually the Irish did rebel, such as against the rent collector Cptn Boycott refusing to pay rents, (hence the term to boycott). Result of the fuedal British rule, famine and around 1 million died of starvation, and many emigrated to either Britain or the Americas. What angers me is that the American far left middle class elitist woke, ignore all this and talk incessently of their ideology of white privilege as though it is a universal truth. Really, its an insult, the Irish are privileged?? From Cornwall.
Just clicked play to see how much rage I’ll feel due to lies and inaccuracies.
We got a lot of irish immigrants too in Quebec, Canada. We were seen as a good place for them and we liked them because they were Catholics too.
6:35 Aaand we had those quarantine islands too
People of Quebec and other parts of Canada were very good to the Irish, some lost their lives when nursing them back to health ..
Pls react to a video on Scottish independence wars
Can you pleaaaaase react to HFP's Kenobi Tribute 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Well there my friend, Need to explain something too you, There was no famine in ireland. We had plenty of food besides the spuds. I want you too listen to these two men.. Chris fogarty holocaust - Genocide by the english - 5 million dead... By Robert David Steele.. I'm an irish man please do us a favor and do a reaction on that video. Thank you my friend. New subscriber.. you should sub Robert David Steele also. All these truths are coming out now. Look after yourself pal.