Наверное ваша машина в конечном счёте получилась дороже по затратам на её разработку и производство чем покупная. Но ваше стремление сделать самостоятельно то, что разрабатывает целая группа разработчиков достойно уважения без всяких оговорок и сомнений.
Fortunately, all my projects (wire bending) with raw material for scrap did cost around one mid-range machine and now I'm proud owner of 4 with knowledge what is priceless.
Really nice. What motor do you use for the actual bending? Big stepper or servo? I am evaluating the pros and cons between buying a ready made machine or DIY. Thank you
Big stepper with belt transmistion. It all depends on what will be produced on the machine. For difficult details, I recommend buying a ready-made machine.
I might sell but price need to be a lot higher than machine it self, and project need to be reworked with knowledge that I've got after few tons of wire used.
I am wondering if you thought about using pneumatics for the cutting/shearing? And what drawbacks it would have if used in place of stepper/servo to drive the slide.
@@maciejmajewski4312 Ok. But as per my calculation for cutting 6mm bar I would need about 500 Nm. Is that right? And to achieve this torque motor cost will be very high. Hence thinking of pneumatics.
Force need to cut 6mm 800 MPa wire in my calculations is 13,5 kN. So if Your arm is 6mm You need something around 47,5Nm. Some gearbox and You could cut 6mm with small 3D printer motor :)
@@maciejmajewski4312 Can we connect on email? I checked my calculations and now the Torque required is coming to 8Nm :) I need to know where I am going wrong.
Witam, film przedstawia praktycznie wszystkie maszyny związane z drutem. O którą konkretnie chodzi. Dla orientacji w zaginarkach do 3 mm sama szafa sterownicza z silnikami to koszt około 10-12 tys. zł. Powyżej 3mm koszt się podwaja.
Maciej Majewski Witam. Interesuje mnie maszyna, która wygina drut 3mm, wystarczy 2d (płaskie formy) jednak formy jakie chciałbym produkować mają wymiar do 100x100cm. Szybkość nie jest ważna, wręcz przeciwnie. Że względu na duże formy człowiek musi pomagać maszynie aby ta nie powiela już wytworzone formy lub musiałby być jakiś dodatkowy stół który obracalby taka formę.
Witam, jestem właśnie w trakcie testów maszyny która jest zdolna do wykonywania elementów z drutu 3mm (2D). Wykonywanie elementów większych wymaga jedynie zmiany orientacji płaszczyzny gięcia oraz odsunięcia podajnika drutu o potrzebną odległość. Poprosił bym o maila na adres zwei@o2.pl z rysunkiem przykładowego elementu. Pozdrawiam
@@maciejmajewski4312 Ok, that makes sense. But I checked and wire is not slipping, still if I make a square, then all the sides are off the axis, meaning they are not in same plane. What could be the reason?
Your problem might be wire straightening or poor material quality or miss alignment of straightening unit with feeder or bending unit or to much force on feeding rolls ... etc. This is life with wire. Some experienced person told me that wire has it's own physics and I agree with him :) I suppose You are over straightening wire. Wire is straight but it is twisting.
I can bend and feed now. However, stuck on cutting. For cutting i am using a 1kw motor with 15:1 reduction gearbox. It can cut upto 2mm but i need to cut 6mm. Tried increasing the motor acceleration but it stalls when it reaches the cut. Need help.
With that amount of force You should be able to cut 6mm. Are You using servo or normal electric motor? What is length of force arm. If You can cut up to 2mm You are surly using to long arm to move cutting element. With that motor You can have up to 7mm of move (max down pos to up pos move). From my calculation You have something around 30mm. If it is 30mm You need to have ~3kW motor with gear 1:25.
@@maciejmajewski4312 I am using a closed loop stepper motor. Length of the motor shaft is 50mm. Have fixed a triangular cam on the shaft (positive action cam) which drives the slide forward and reverse , total travel distance is 25mm.
Hey, for now end near future my machines are prototypes not adapted to work (safety regulations). Maybe on beginning of next year I'll start thinking about preparing for seel.
Hey, every think is write in that document: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinery_Directive Full document is in EU site. If Your machine meets requirements You can attache CE sign.
Oh man, I love the mechanism of unspooling the wire! Awesome job!
this really inspired me to start with another idea I had in mind long time ago . THANKS and good luck with your machine :)
GREAT JOB DUDE!!! I LOVE IT
impressive work! thank you very much for sharing your journey!
GREAT JOURNEY! thank you for sharing it. Every step shows great improvements. It is inspiring!
Thank You
A steap learning curve of about 2 years with a impressive result, really nice piece of equipment you developped there !
Thank you. Unfortunately, the progress curve slows down when approaching the end of the project :) It takes more time to refine the details.
@@maciejmajewski4312 friend any posibility to contact you by email ? :)
that's great , you are professor , a good engineer , you number one
Well done and impressive job.
Great dedicated work.
Thanks for sharing journey for Exelance achievement.
Congratulations and best wishes in your en-devours. Lots of development time on your part.
Nice work and video. I’m working on manually bending tight bends in 5/16” square aluminum bar. Any advice?
Наверное ваша машина в конечном счёте получилась дороже по затратам на её разработку и производство чем покупная. Но ваше стремление сделать самостоятельно то, что разрабатывает целая группа разработчиков достойно уважения без всяких оговорок и сомнений.
Fortunately, all my projects (wire bending) with raw material for scrap did cost around one mid-range machine and now I'm proud owner of 4 with knowledge what is priceless.
Good job!
Fantastic, what are you making?
nice work good luck for future .
I would really love to know the ins and outs of how you cut the wire at the end of your operation. Size of the motor and how the mechanism works!!
Really nice.
What motor do you use for the actual bending?
Big stepper or servo?
I am evaluating the pros and cons between buying a ready made machine or DIY.
Thank you
Big stepper with belt transmistion. It all depends on what will be produced on the machine. For difficult details, I recommend buying a ready-made machine.
Good job
good work
respect good job
you are great! what program do you use to control the machine? cutting mechanism servo motor? thanks
Hey, thanks. My machine work on Mach3. All movements are performed by electric motors.
How much would you sell it for ?
Hy, I would like to know how to know the stepper size 17,34... able to bend the wire
Excellent.
Do you sell the project?
Bend wire 5mm?
I might sell but price need to be a lot higher than machine it self, and project need to be reworked with knowledge that I've got after few tons of wire used.
I am wondering if you thought about using pneumatics for the cutting/shearing? And what drawbacks it would have if used in place of stepper/servo to drive the slide.
I've done pneumatic cutting in my first machine. Electric system is way faster than air driven.
@@maciejmajewski4312 Ok. But as per my calculation for cutting 6mm bar I would need about 500 Nm. Is that right? And to achieve this torque motor cost will be very high. Hence thinking of pneumatics.
Force need to cut 6mm 800 MPa wire in my calculations is 13,5 kN. So if Your arm is 6mm You need something around 47,5Nm. Some gearbox and You could cut 6mm with small 3D printer motor :)
@@maciejmajewski4312 Can we connect on email? I checked my calculations and now the Torque required is coming to 8Nm :) I need to know where I am going wrong.
@@maciejmajewski4312 Yes, that's correct, but the speed will be very low and the stepper will heat up very fast.
Wife "Let's go to IKEA on Saturday, we need some coat hangers…"
Husband: "Challenge accepted!"
True :D :D
cool. what gauge steel can it bend?
Right now up to 6mm
Trying to figure out how much torque I would need to feed 6mm wire. I already have a straightener, but its too bulky, so might add that latter.
There are too many variables affecting the moment needed for the wire feeder. Your need to experiment:)
@@maciejmajewski4312 How I can contact you ?
Hi, write to zwei@o2.pl. That's my anti spam mail so please write comment after sending mail. I'm not checking it too often.
Czy wykonuje Pan podobne maszyny na zamówienie? Jaka jest szacunkowy koszt prezentowanej maszyny?
Witam,
film przedstawia praktycznie wszystkie maszyny związane z drutem. O którą konkretnie chodzi. Dla orientacji w zaginarkach do 3 mm sama szafa sterownicza z silnikami to koszt około 10-12 tys. zł. Powyżej 3mm koszt się podwaja.
Maciej Majewski Witam. Interesuje mnie maszyna, która wygina drut 3mm, wystarczy 2d (płaskie formy) jednak formy jakie chciałbym produkować mają wymiar do 100x100cm. Szybkość nie jest ważna, wręcz przeciwnie. Że względu na duże formy człowiek musi pomagać maszynie aby ta nie powiela już wytworzone formy lub musiałby być jakiś dodatkowy stół który obracalby taka formę.
Witam,
jestem właśnie w trakcie testów maszyny która jest zdolna do wykonywania elementów z drutu 3mm (2D). Wykonywanie elementów większych wymaga jedynie zmiany orientacji płaszczyzny gięcia oraz odsunięcia podajnika drutu o potrzebną odległość. Poprosił bym o maila na adres zwei@o2.pl z rysunkiem przykładowego elementu.
Pozdrawiam
Do you sell plans or machine?
sir nice of speed your mach.which is used to give the command
Hi Guy.Very nice work great idea.I have a question.What did you use for wire cutting? A special knife?Thanks for answer.
Fully custom made solution.
how much money that cost you
Brawoo👏👏👏👏
The wire turns on it's axis when feeding with just 2 rollers. Is that the reason 4 roller feeding needs to be used?
Without 4 rollers wire could slip. Feeders in welding machines are mostly equipped with 4 rollers.
@@maciejmajewski4312 Ok, that makes sense. But I checked and wire is not slipping, still if I make a square, then all the sides are off the axis, meaning they are not in same plane. What could be the reason?
Your problem might be wire straightening or poor material quality or miss alignment of straightening unit with feeder or bending unit or to much force on feeding rolls ... etc. This is life with wire. Some experienced person told me that wire has it's own physics and I agree with him :)
I suppose You are over straightening wire. Wire is straight but it is twisting.
Are you planning to sell comercially?
Hi, What is a controller ?
Arduino or PLC. Please let me know.
On begging I've used Arduino but limitations where too large. Right now I'm using CSMIO/IP-M from www.cs-lab.eu/.
thank you so much
thank for inspiration ,i think one day will make it same like you.
Sliding is belt driven or Cam ?
It's depends on Your preferences.
Triangular cam ?
I can bend and feed now. However, stuck on cutting. For cutting i am using a 1kw motor with 15:1 reduction gearbox. It can cut upto 2mm but i need to cut 6mm. Tried increasing the motor acceleration but it stalls when it reaches the cut. Need help.
With that amount of force You should be able to cut 6mm. Are You using servo or normal electric motor? What is length of force arm.
If You can cut up to 2mm You are surly using to long arm to move cutting element. With that motor You can have up to 7mm of move (max down pos to up pos move).
From my calculation You have something around 30mm. If it is 30mm You need to have ~3kW motor with gear 1:25.
@@maciejmajewski4312 I am using a closed loop stepper motor. Length of the motor shaft is 50mm. Have fixed a triangular cam on the shaft (positive action cam) which drives the slide forward and reverse , total travel distance is 25mm.
Here is your one comment from an indian: "PLZ SHAR PLANS PLZ"
Witam. Jakiś kontakt do Pana można prosić?
Witam,
proszę pisać na zwei@.o2.pl .
I will buy it
It's not for sale for that moment. Sorry.
I want the machine lets connect
But can you share the plans? Lol...
You're supposed to post that with an indian name and mispelt English.
I am willing to buyif the price suits me
Hey,
for now end near future my machines are prototypes not adapted to work (safety regulations). Maybe on beginning of next year I'll start thinking about preparing for seel.
Can you say more about safety regulations? I'm from Poland too.
Hey,
every think is write in that document:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinery_Directive
Full document is in EU site.
If Your machine meets requirements You can attache CE sign.
Machin. Prise. Please
Jihad.
are you student?
I was 10 year ago :)
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