"Why the Religious Will Inherit the Earth" with Eric Kaufmann
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- čas přidán 12. 10. 2023
- My guest today is Eric Kaufmann. Eric is a political scientist who's written several great books, including "Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?" and "Whiteshift". Eric was a professor at Birkbeck College, University of London for many years. He was the head of the department there, before he was pushed out for his political views. So we talk about that story at the top of this interview.
We also talk about a whole bunch of other topics. We discuss the sociologist Daniel Bell. We talk about why birth rates are declining in the secular world and why it matters. We talk about high birth rate populations like Hasidic Jews and the Amish. We talk about the tension between liberal politics on immigration and liberal politics on LGBTQ. We talk about why Canada and Scotland are so much further to the left on gender and trans issues than America is. Finally, we talk about why it is that conservatives appear to be happier in data than liberals generally, and why religious people also tend to be happier than secular people, and what lessons, if any, we can draw from that. This was one of my favorite podcasts I've done this year, and I hope you enjoy it.
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@ColemanHughesOfficial you should interview people like William Lane Craig and Trent Horn to discuss Christianity.
I’m curious to know what Eric thinks the effect of secular Israelis’ demand that the ultra-Orthodox serve in the military and earn a living will have. Seems to me this is just the type of coerced commingling he would endorse.
As an American in my 30s I see these differences playing out first-hand. It is almost exclusively my conservative friends who have children, typically 2-3 for non-religious and 3+ for religious conservatives. Of the liberals I know who have children, which is probably less than half, they have 1 or _maybe_ 2.
One of the best interviews I've ever seen in my life. Completely honest, dispassionate, and data-driven, while still asking the important questions. Please keep it up, both of you.
*Being a conservative implies that one is grateful for what one has, and would therefore like to conserve it. Whereas being a progressive implies that one is discontented with society, and would therefore like to change it. Given this basic logic, it’s no surprise that conservatives are happier, is it?*
With this framing you gave, yes. If you assume conservatives want to preserve the current state of things, because they are grateful for the current state of affairs.
Given how differently people use the terms 'conservative' and 'progressive', it's not obvious what slice of people who identify as and/or vote for conservatives fit the description you gave. Same goes for progressives.
Conservatives have a purpose rooted in close proximity to them, faith, family, community, country. Progressives have purpose rooted in broad and global scale. They focus on others and large problems. Hence their solutions involve authoritative state and are largely ineffective and more destructive than productive. And when their efforts do fail their solution is always more... More money, more resources, more best intentions, more control, more power.
How happy are the religious protesting outside abortion clinics, gay night clubs, or military funerals? How happy are the Hasidic Jews being beat up by passersby? How happy are any of the heterodox being condemned by the orthodox? And every religion is heterodox to every other religion.
I agree in part, but your framing is extremely skewed. Many conservatives and right-leaning people seek change and believe that there are major problems. You are generally right.
@@banjax80 I'm think i am a progressive. I support solutions like more free trade, greatly reducing limits and bureaucracy around housing which allowed nimbys to create the housing crisis, ending the failed war on drugs.
On average, gay people tend to be the youngest of their siblings and their siblings tend to have more children. It's called the "gay uncle" theory and is part of the kin selection evolutionary hypothesis.
It’s almost like a materialistic sexual life doesn’t actually mean your life is fulfilling.
if only someone had figured that out and written it down some time in the last 2000 or 3000 years.
@@notloki3377dang, well maybe it's not too late to write it
@@genericusername8337 I wasn't inserting religion into the conversation. I was just saying that people have known this shit for like 3,000 years and if you ignore it and it makes you unhappy then it's your damn fault.
@@genericusername8337 no it’s a pretty clear factor if you’re willing to read the studies.
@@notloki3377😂😂 right?!?
I read this book some years ago and it was one that really shifted my mind on many topics. Demography, I realised more than ever, then and now, is destiny.
This was a really great conversation!
As a young bourgeoise woman I can say the conservative religious friends I have are far happier and more stable in general than the majority who are atheist and often miserable or listless.
For my part, I wish I could believe and have tried but cannot (I even went down the path towards converting to Catholicism, but just couldn’t come at it)…
I feel very isolated today especially considering my views range from conservative to liberal on different topics and I never seem able to find a community.
On top of that when I look at dating its a depressing picture. Many men hate women, many more are simply too childish to consider as a partner and still more simply don’t want a monogamous relationship, they only want casual sex…
It’s hard not to be disheartened by all this tbh. I find it very difficult to know what to do. Sometimes I look at conservative religious housewives who spend their days baking bread, homeschooling their children and obeying their husbands and I envy them, but I know I cannot force myself into believing in something I don’t find credible.
I often feel like we have all been tasked with becoming the Nietzschean Superman… I’m not really sure this is possible for ANYONE fully but it’s definitely not possible for MOST people - I say this as someone who tried and continues to try to do it.
I feel lost, to be honest, and unsure of where to go, what to value, strive for and stand for… strange times
Thanks for your honesty. It's refreshing.
I once went through a period in my life (late teen and twenties) when I was highly skeptical about basic tenets of the Christian faith and found it all too difficult to believe. But after a few years of reading the writings of such people like C S Lewis (Mere Christianity), William Lane Craig, Alvin Plantinga, John Lennox, Stephen Meyer, and many others, now I can't "unbelieve". The evidence for the truth of basic Christian belief is very credible and convincing, in my estimation. Maybe these writers could help you examine these matters too.
All the best to you.
That sounds extremely draining. Life can often be like that, thank you for sharing.
I feel like we are a step away from each other on a similar line. I'm religious, but most of my close friends are not, some having actively left my denomination. It has never been an issue, but the pressure still exists in an unspoken way.
Being a little older, I would recommend finding a group you can get together with on a regular basis around a common interest. The most difficult times I've had were when I was isolated between just work and family. Having a hobby, it doesn't really matter what it is, and a group to enjoy it with has been immensely beneficial for me. I still often feel isolated and alone, but the support of those people, even when they may not understand my personal struggles, has made it much easier to bear the difficult times.
With actual love, I hope you discover a source meaning for yourself. I'd also say give religion another look in a few years. While I'd probably be considered a heretic by most my fellow sectarians, my personal beliefs and views have been an anchor, even when my belief/faith/whatever has been at its lowest.
I had a similar experience and by my mid thirties I figured not being a true beauty, I was destined for spinster hood and began to make peace with it. I moved to a city I liked and just started going to spirit circles, which was a fad at the time. I bought a house got a sloppy smelly dog. Had a sauna installed. … and married the guy who installed my sauna when we were both 42. 😂 ( I knew he had a job yeah?) any way with medical help, we had a child at 45 and sent our daughter to Catholic school. Moved and now she is in a Christian school and we know lots of lovely people. We were always “spiritual”.
My family was Christian conservative growing up. Traditional ladies really rule the home in many ways. All my conservative female relatives were steel willed. The difference is a strong family orientation. It’s not about obeying a husband. It’s about agreeing on a goal and values and being “equally yoked”. You are both pulling the same direction. I often find myself “leading from behind!” 😊
There is an old saying that is very appropriate for the times we find ourselves in, "If there wasn't a God, it would be necessary to invent him."
I think you are confusing your friends' respect for their mates for obedience.
Part of being happy is flexibility. You want to find a community like you. Exactly like you? More flexibility allows us to become part of a community that isn't exactly like us.
Another reason conservatives are happier is we don't expect a heaven on Earth,. Utopianism does not allow disagreement. And it becomes more and more absolutist. Doesn't the expression date back to the French revolution that 'the revolution eats its young"?
Your conservative leaning community will welcome you and treat you kindly.
There are plenty of people who go to church and don’t have deep faith or any at all. And for centuries community pressure led to everyone going to church because it was the “right” thing to do.
I think there’s something to the idea that acting as if we believe can be as powerful as actual belief. It’s all very Jordan Peterson but I think he’s on to something.
My Grandfather was an atheist, my Grandmother a Mexican Catholic. He went to mass with his family while his sons were growing up. I was raised evangelical Christian and he would go to church with us for special occasions. He even tithed there, albeit with a lot of mumbling.😄 He was a scientist and had little faith in much else but what he did believe was that family relationship and purpose in life were paramount. We were first in his heart and he knew that the structure of church and community kept our family, our community, and our country strong. Sounds idealistic, I know, but it worked. We have an amazing family and I’m passing that down to my kids too. So, yeah, maybe the religious, or those who at least participate in religion, do inherit the good stuff.🤷♀️
We need new religions to serve this function that put quality first. Optimalism should replace the Abrahamic religions. You can have whatever style suits the people practicing it but the purpose should be based around raising optimal quality children in the most ideal circumstances you can manage. High quality children will grow up to become the saviors of humanity in every socio economic field they are raised in. They are the most valuable, precious resource humans have to improve life on Earth. Any religion or lifestyle that fails to put the family first is no longer useful during hard time ahead.
@@sydnacious4239How many times are you going to copy & paste this comment?
@@sydnacious4239”Optimalism should replace the Abrahamic religions.”
I’m not sure if I’ve ever heard something more arrogant.
I think often we're confusing the concepts of progress and conservation with the political ideologies they share their names with. All humans want to conserve the things they think are good, as well as to also want make things better, especially the things they think are bad. It's a matter of disagreement on the specifics. It's easy to think up examples of things conservatives want to change and progressives want to keep from changing, or ways "liberals" are anything but liberal, or in America for instance, how the Republican and Democrat parties have little to do with the concepts of their namesake. Saying conservatives are happier because they are grateful for what they have is as broadly true as saying they are living in fear of change. Or saying progressives are living in a state of constant dissatisfaction could just as easily be thought of as them having the self-satisfaction that comes with fighting perceived injustices. While it may be true that "right wingers" and the religious report higher happiness (I don't dispute it), I don't think the correlations and causations are as easily unpacked as some people are claiming.
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Coleman, and Eric, what a brain twister for me! So many ideas I had not yet pondered in this maze of ideologies and cultural norms. Immigration, the continually taboo topic, was expressed openly and honestly. Hard for most to do. There were so many areas that you two spoke about which I currently feel awkward raising among friends and family.
I am part of a “life without religion” support group. This discussion is one I feel they may be interested to hear. I’ll share it at our next session.
My religion is great support. One of the reasons studies show religious people are more resilient and happier.
I feel like, not having as many mental disorders also helps.
Interesting comment. I increasingly feel, after many decades working in the field, that mental disorders are as much caused by dysfunctional families are are the cause of them.
Its been proven the Left has more mental disorders.
Could the rise in unhappiness be due to the drop in childbirths? Do religious people have more babies because they are happier, or are they happier because they have more kids?
To some degree it's blissful ignorance I would say. It's comforting to think you live in the best nation, blessed by God. It's comforting to think that the market rewards people fairly for their contributions. It's comforting to think the world is stable and ordered and full of purpose.
I don't believe those are at all representative of religious conservatives in the US. I believe that's a caricature of religious conservatives in the US.
Nations aren't blessed by God (at least not any one more than another). Conservatives don't claim that markets reward people fairly (and how do you define fair?). The world is far from stable, but many religious communities (and largely religious regions) are more stable on the whole than the world at large.
Exactly
Which gets to the heart of the value of information. If you had a terminal illness that would kill you at 11:38am, Jan. 17th 2024, would you want to know or would that information simply torpedo your quality of life despite (and because of) your inability to change circumstances?
I don't think its so much blissful ignorance as it is accepting that there are things cannot change.
It's either blissful ignorance or it's true. So win win
Good conversation!
Could the emphasis on sex for pleasure instead of reproductive, with the looking down on raising families also be a contributing factor? Apparently people are having less sex after the explosion of the sexual revolution. Constant chasing of pleasure depletes the brains 'pleasure reward' wiring perhaps?
You mention two phenomena. Sex for pleasure has always been practiced, but with different consequences. MUI high-hedonism cultures tend to also be low fertility (which might just be high abortion/infanticide), so that could be a factor.
Expectations around a normal family size, including low social cost of zero children, is definitely a factor.
fascinating talk, thanks
Thank you for the interview. I followed Steve Kaufmann, Eric’s father for about 15 years now for language learning. Interesting to hear Eric Kaufmann speak.
Mind blown that he's his father.
I had never heard of Daniel Bell and just looked him up. There are interesting parallels between his life and thought and those of my great intellectual hero, Thomas Sowell.
You are the best Coleman, thank you for your great conversations. It would be nice if more young people were exposed to thinkers like your self and many of your guests.
You had all the right questions, Coleman. Great job.
Thanks!
Two of my favorite intellectuals!
Those tourists at the Capitol didn't seem very happy.
Seemed happier then the riots in the summer of 2020 and the Chaz area in Seattle which technically committed treason by trying to create a separate country however unrealistic it was
the mental health differences between progs and cons is very strong
Haha that’s funny. I think most were happy and enjoying themselves. That’s also a very small amount of the right. Same with Antifa and BLM riots for over a whole summer destroying property and taking peoples lives…those people seemed happy. Haha. That’s anecdotal. Jan 6 is an inside job clearly. A-lot of those ppl are government informants payed for a role you sheep. Talk about blueanon.
@@wade2boshGo ask the homeless population shooting up and pooping on the street if they are Democrat or Republican? I think we all know what the vast majority of them will say they are Democrat!
As a Scot, I would suggest the SNP is much farther to the left on gender issues as a whole: the decision to house the trans/male sex offender in the women's prison was met with outrage by the general public.
But Democrats still insist on putting male born Trans in women's prisons, sports, shelters, bathrooms, and other places that should be women's safe and private spaces!
Now more than ever your message of colorblindess counts. Please help us get ahead of the violence.
How much of the low secular birth rate is attributable to propinquity, to the non-communal nature of the secular individual? The religious find their (like minded) mates sitting in the pews next to each other. At least they don't have the problem of reconciling inter-faith conflicts. I suppose non-religious couples also have that bonus.
We need new religions to serve this function that put quality first. Optimalism should replace the Abrahamic religions. You can have whatever style suits the people practicing it but the purpose should be based around raising optimal quality children in the most ideal circumstances you can manage. High quality children will grow up to become the saviors of humanity in every socio economic field they are raised in. They are the most valuable, precious resource humans have to improve life on Earth. Any religion or lifestyle that fails to put the family first is no longer useful during hard time ahead.
To Coleman's question that 'do you think artificial womb's will have an effect on the secular population in the future?' ABSOLUTELY. Besides the choice for some unable, lazy, cowardly and/or occupied people that don't want to endure pregnancy and birth, it will be a new systemic institutional way to attempt to maintain hegemony numbers. Modern social progressive gender theory believers already regularly try to separate pliable, confused, and or dissenting children from the their parents while systematically minimizing the parent's role and autonomy in shaping, rearing and guiding a child's choices, beliefs and protection from long term harm. While trying to replace them with a system or state, often encouraging them to change their name... So basically in the future scenerio there could be factories raising children in a systematic way, in a foster-like group setting where they are pumping them full of these ideologies from the moment they can speak until the time they leave to work in their matrix. Sci-fi sure. But little by little, more technologies and conundrums that were first explored in sci-fi movies are coming to pass...
Why is the book so expensive in the UK?! £60!
If you don't have religion, can you have a separation of Church and state? Where will moral (ecclesistic) authority reside?
Based on my understanding... The separation of Church and state is a separation of powers. Civil and ecclesiastic authority resides in different bodies in order to have checks and balances which operate in common law structure.
State law determines legality and Church doctrines determine morality. Phrased differently, the state can make an act illegal but cannot make any act guilty (sin). Church doctrines determine which acts are guilty (sin) but cannot make any act illegal. A defendant may choose a bench trial in which the laws of the state will be applied without regard to morality, or they may choose a trial by jury in which the jurors are sworn to give a true verdict. An intrinsically innocent act cannot be converted into a crime by the state.
This separation of powers also permits a specialization of labor. If held to the limitations within the Christian bible, "the sword" is only to be used against those who do evil. The state gains legitimacy because it is not dividing people and creating turmoil in attempts to force people to be virtuous; and the Church is free to extol the highest virtues because it does not bear "the sword" to force virtuous behavior. This separation of powers creates a middle ground where people are free to use their discretion. ... A unified civil/ecclesiastic authority will compromise the virtues it preaches because they must be watered down enough to be enforced; and the state will be oppressive and tyrannical because force will be used in efforts to create virtuous behavior.
Labels are important because they help us to communicate… however, you don’t need labels to drive your path forward - you simply don’t need to be labeled as a conservative/traditionalist or liberal/progressive. You can be a complicated mix - which is really what everyone is anyways - and you can expect to change as you age.
In general I’ve become more “progressive” (in my 30-40s) in certain areas, as I’ve learned more about healthcare issues, history, science/environmental issues, war, firearms, education, and as I’ve gained more life experiences seeing what policies would likely be better for greater numbers of people (like universal healthcare). However I’ve become more conservative in ways too, on issues like drug legalization (as I’ve become a parent, far more concerned about protecting children), or on the issue of “dei” as I’ve gained experience in my workplace. Identity politics sucks, and I tend to gravitate towards a return to the “melting pot” concept from my youth - in part because our common culture and norms in the US are necessary for cohesion as a nation. Everyone is moving to their own tribal corners, which damages the nation in key ways. I’ve also become more sympathetic towards religion - though I still see much of it as childish wishful thinking, tribalism, and delusion.
So it’s complicated. Labels have their place - but nuance is necessary (especially in a dumbed-down society and culture based on using smart phones/social media, and where nuance seems harder to find and promote).
Most people have a more nuanced view of politics than they let on. Im also in my 30s and consider myself extremely conservative on social issues. But, like yourself, I am probably more moderate to center left on fiscal issues. With Republicans moderating on fiscal issues and Dems pushing left on social issues, I can't foresee myself ever voting Democrat again but I would under the right circumstances.
Maybe exposing yourself to great teachers! Mark Driscoll in AZ, meet a spiritual woman!😊😊😊 Love your videos and discussions!
“They say the meek shall inherit
You know the book doesn't lie
It's not a question of merit
It's not demand and supply
They say the meek gonna get it
And you're a meek little guy
You know the meek are gonna get what's coming to 'em
By and by”
Little Shop of Horrors
What's your definition of 'meek' ?
@@eoinoconnell185
Hint, it's an acronym. 😮
Ignorance is bliss.
what is a woman?
@@notloki3377 ah yes, the propaganda technique: whataboutism. So original.
@@micahgmiranda I was merely pointing out that every social and cultural memeplex has its delusions.
@@notloki3377 So you're muddying the waters, trying to distract from the actual issue to a separate issue in an attempt to remind the audience that both sides are terrible. Can't you tell how low that is? You're not even trying to improve at all. You're saying it's ok for us to be garbage because they are garbage. That's a garbage mentality. We should be trying to improve ourselves by confronting our deficiencies rather than sweeping them under the rug.
And giving trans people human rights is not a delusion. More and more laws all around the world are increasingly successful at protecting trans people's right to exist. This is where society is heading, and you think that's a bad thing because you're brainwashed. You're told that allowing trans people to exist will cause the ultimate destruction of western society, which is not based in facts. Your approach to that issue is coming from a dogmatically religious mindset that's focused on purity, sanctity, and loyalty rather than accuracy. Trans people scare you. You are controlled by your fears. You're not concerned at all with science, or theory, or how authoritarian that is. You're just mind-controlled by this petty team game. It's sad.
You are more ignorant than any religious individual. You cant comprehend the adoption of a metaphorical creation framework because your low IQ mind cant handle anything but one dimensional references. Abstractions are too much for you, so you ridicule those that have found happiness and comfort in their own lives by utilizing them.
Youre objectively pathetic.
Beautiful will say? Once born, to crawling, to walking, and till now. HIS BEAUTIFUL shared Feet resting upon the very tip of time! Beautiful shared "i" AM will say " mileage from thy feet! May HE Recognize?
In the beginning of the conversation Coleman says “I can’t believe it’s been 5 years, Jesus.” Anyone catch that. Thought it was funny
I’m not quite sure the premise of this argument is valid. If people of strong religious beliefs having large families, and 80% (that seemed to be the statistical percentage mentioned in the talk) of the children continue to practice in those beliefs actually happened, then western cultures would never have become secular to begin with. Also, the majority of people throughout history have been religious in some way or another, and in western cultures that has been on a steady decline. This seems to point out a different reason for a rise of secularism in the first place, and more than likely a different reason for any rise in religious belief.
As far as the LGBTQ+ population being on the rise, I think it makes more sense if you view it as a preference instead of genetic. I could be wrong, but I haven’t seen any evidence that it is genetic and I’m also old enough to remember that preference was the original argument that the gay and lesbian communities were originally putting out as well. The whole “born this way” idea is really only a little over a decade old. Before that, they were saying “this is how I want to be and shouldn’t be oppressed for it.”
We need new religions to serve this function that put quality first. Optimalism should replace the Abrahamic religions. You can have whatever style suits the people practicing it but the purpose should be based around raising optimal quality children in the most ideal circumstances you can manage. High quality children will grow up to become the saviors of humanity in every socio economic field they are raised in. They are the most valuable, precious resource humans have to improve life on Earth. Any religion or lifestyle that fails to put the family first is no longer useful during hard time ahead.
If your axioms are the world is a good place if you oriente yourself properly, then of cause you'll never be depressed.
Should point out that Daniel Bell is not the father of CRT Derrick Bell.
u have to adjust for age. (happiness and politics)
Lineage parasitism doesn't work in the long run, because it puts evolutionary pressure on the host population. The people peeled off by conversion will be the disproportionately xenophilic ones, leaving a disproportionately xenophobic remnant. This puts long-run pressure on the host toward xenophobia and you'd expect conversion to become more difficult over time.
The exception that proves the rule here is the Shaker offshoot of Quakerism, who did not have sex at all, but ran orphanages. They relied exclusively on lineage parasitism but only took the children who were otherwise abandoned. When governments took over care of orphans, the pipeline dried up and so did the Shaker population.
It’s money everyone as economies decline the birthday rate declines as economies improve…birth rates improve.
Some of the least religious countries on Earth (Norway, Iceland, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, the UK, Japan, the Netherlands, Denmark) are also among the healthiest(as indicated by life expectancy, adult literacy, gender equality, homicide rate, per capita income, educational attainment, infant mortality) according to the United Nations Human Development Report.
This is a really good point. I have read some studies that religious people are slightly happier. Still wouldn’t justify unfounded beliefs.
Hmm, could be something else that make these countries similar. 3rd variable confounding
yes, but they also have a richer GDP and lower populations to spend the money on
I don't know about this, but if those studies are broad studies of the whole population, the "happiness quotient" of the religious within those countries might drive up the average making it seem like those more secular places are higher up on that happiness index.
Read Tom Holland's book Dominion. It explains that Western civilization is still running on the ethics and value s instilled by the Judeo-Christian beliefs that formed it over the ages. It's taken a few hundred years of the onslaught of enlightenment and post-modern ideologies, which are now falling apart. Unfortunately it's likely to get very much worse.
We need protection of all humans life from moment of conception.
Not feasible. Modern conservatives don't have the ability or will or infrastructure to take care of lost unwanted children. The society that prohibits abortion needs to deserve the right to place that restriction. We don't live in that society yet. Embrace optimalism & intentional living communities based around raising the perfect children then you can ban abortion.
Correlation does not equal causation. Perhaps being more right wing makes them happier, maybe religion, or something else we have not even considered.
No u got it all wrong, of course there are other things that make ppl more or less happy. They did questions and surveys on their religion or atheism and political views. No one’s saying there isn’t other reasons people are unhappy or happy. It’s saying how much happiness or fulfillment one gathers or receives from their religious views or political views. Don’t discredit the research with “other factors” or anecdotal hypotheses
And the point is you and everyone should be more right wing or religious to be more happier.
@@Astarkiller I’m not discounting the video, just offering more insight. Also, I used to be very religious and was miserable. Only as I left religion and started addressing my own issues without relying on god did I start to have any hope for happiness. I am generally very right wing btw.
Progressivism means never being satisfied while imagining that there is some ideal and probably unattainable land over the horizon.
It is really the conflict of visions which Thomas Sowell writes so eloquently about.
the magas are super happy people
About the point on the inherent conflict between liberal migration policies (which tend to bring in more conservative cultures) and the LGTBQ agenda, the paradox goes the other way too. Conservative Christians in the USA who want a much more restrictive immigration policy especially at the border, are rejecting fellow Christians for the most part.
Eric Kaufmann likes to throw in "anomie" a lot. If it's that significant perhaps he could discuss why?
Larger families are difficult because of costs particularly in the US. Most families need both parents working how is that done with 5 children. The result is children live in poverty. This conversation is actually is very narrow
1:14:50 You're conflating the "Ultra-Orthodox" in Israel with the "religious" in Israel. The percentage of religious people in Israel who want to overhaul the judicial system is very low. Netanyahu pursued this path to protect himself from a corruption charge and to placate the most extreme elements of his coalition. Most religious people in Israel are perfectly happy with the current judicial system and are not interested in replacing their judges with Rabbis.
Hi Coleman,
It’s never to late to put your faith and trust in Jesus. Here’s the great part: You think you are choosing Jesus but then you learn he chose you just in case you should boast. This is not about religiosity or pursing happiness, It is about humility and our need for a Savior.❤
I don't know. Is happiness found in delusion? For the deluded, perhaps, but not for the rest of us.
Shrooms mountain biking and dancing gatherings , I bet those people are a happy group . Also this was such a good talk Coleman is the man !
they can be. shrooms also aren't designed to make you happy, they're designed to dissolve pointless boundaries and make you question beliefs.
that's what you think or don't think @@notloki3377
Throw in porn and you’re close to brain in a vat! Good luck!What could go wrong!
@@snowbirdsurfer2474 if prostitution ruins your marriage it sounds like a you thing
It’s well established that the more intelligent you are the less happy you tend to be. No wonder conservatives are happier lol
I could take 10 seconds of this absolute bullshit. ”Do I chose this gender or…”, how many people does that happen to?
a number that doubles every few years in gen Z.
@@notloki3377 So 2000 in a decade? Still has absolutely nothing to do with left leaning people being unhappier than right leaning people. Which also is a bullshit notion.
@@wilhelmh9495 The resort to angry expletives shows you have lost the argument.
@@saltburner2 another retarded idea that is easily refuted
20% of gen z identifies with some LGBT label. 40% of gen z has a generalized mood disorder. the majority of gen z are liberal. being lgbt is highly associated with being left leaning and having depression.
this isn't biological or we would see this in other generations. it's the result of targeted propaganda campaigns.
case closed.@@wilhelmh9495
dude u can be conservative in ur private life
Sorry but the UK is SO much better than the US and Canada in regard to gender ideology, thanks only to many great women from every walk of life who have openly been fighting back in the Courts and have obtained landmark results. Interesting that this guy, just like Matt Walsh, is ignoring such strong and effective pushback.
Religious delusions evolved to be the prominent mindset once. Why not again?
makes you wonder what's really a delusion.
They already have, though now instead of religious fundamentalism we have identarian and intersectional fundamentalism, which is at least as - if not more - damaging.
Christianity created the most thriving, and anti authoritarian culture ever. By 'authoritarian', I'm specifically referring to authoritarian tactics outlined in Robert Lifton's 8.
Looking from an evolutionary perspective, you're spot on. Traditional religions are traditional because their culture at least survived, if not thrived.
It is the heavy use of authoritarian tactics that result in 'delusion', referred to as reality drifts. Seems evolution doesn't care, and is more concerned with survival.
Still, our culture is mostly antithetical to them. The 1st ammendment to the US constitution includes free speech and freedom of assembly... #1 of Lifton's 8, is "information milleu", which includes censorship and control of association.
All brainwashing does is rewire a persons moral framework away from their traditional culture.
If it's working it's not a delusion.
most things which are functional are untrue, or only partially true.@@Charles-qt2dy
Respectfully, stop sighing and deep breathing into the mic. It's sincerely not bearable. I'm sorry if no one's pointed this out yet.
Coleman, I am persuaded that the only obstacle to faith for you and others who tend to intellectualize every issue, in terms of black and white, statistics, evidence, etc., is an effort to understand and appreciate the metaphysical. Why do we love and deeply esteem the beauty of a woman? Why does the innocence and love of our very young children move us to tears? Why does the beauty of nature often leave us speechless? These and many other questions are just as meaningful and profoundly more meaningful than many of the questions you have endeavored to answer.
What religion is our creator other than none? I'm the same religion as him... NONE!
Are you two planing a take over 😂
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." - John Adams (1798).
By definition, in their spiritual rebellion, immoral and irreligious people cannot respect boundaries, principles, or decency. Hence, they cannot contribute to a secure, orderly, prosperous society.
Also, being happy is not life's loftiest goal; being righteous is, and only moral and religious people can be righteous.
Unless Coleman embraces the Protestant Christian faith, he will miss out on life's most glorious joys.
But he will pay the price because all righteous people are persecuted. "If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first." - Jesus of Nazareth (John 15:18).
Oof. This is quite the declaration. 😆
Only through him will you find a "true purpose." Yeah, man, he's the only one.
Many people without religion lead useful and fulfilling lives, including Coleman, Kaufman, Douglas Murray and Thomas Sowell.
In my experience (I am over 80) being conservative is far more important than being religious.
@@saltburner2 Yes, it is essential to live a good life, but for those who do, where will their souls go after they die?
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That’s God’s secret.
I’m guessing Adams was referring to how much of our system is based on respected norms rather than formal enumeration. We learned just how much we rely on those norms when Trump was elected.
Homosexuality is not genetic, but largely epigenetic.
I was just wondering... Is there anyone who has just decided to believe, and then become a believer? I haven't heard any conversion story like that. I don't think that's possible for anyone.
For your answer, research recovery groups. Choosing to believe in a power greater than themselves and simply working that helps them believe they can overcome the hardship of managing addiction and gain a sobriety. In time, most recovering people come to believe in a God of their understanding that loves them and guides them in their daily life choices. Some people do get areligious experience. The founder of AA had a White Light experience while he was very ill in an insane ward suffering from his alcoholism. Others come to believe in time
@AnttiValkama there’s plenty conversión stories on people giving their life to Jesus on CZcams with their own personal stories and testimony you should search them up you’ll find plenty of them
I usually enjoy Coleman's podcasts and interviews. He's a reasonable and relatively intelligent young man. However, on several occasions, I've been surprised by the lack of intellectual sophistication in his understanding of philosophical/religious issues. I believe he would greatly benefit from doing more research and becoming more informed/educated in these areas.
Those who have no children cannot imagine the depth and breadth of joy that belongs to a Mother or Father of little souls which look to you for all their sustenance, all their understanding, all their needs. The weight of that responsibility is spectacularly ennobling in virtually everyone but the most flawed and morally perverse individuals. Any healthy human Society must fully appreciate this great mystery and protect the culturally value of marriage (firstly) and childbearing (second). That ship sailed in the West when we stupidly, arrogantly, ignorantly sanctioned gay marriage as an acceptable alternative to healthy human families.
Coleman, back away from the mic when taking deep breaths, buddy
what an idiot
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one"
- George Bernard Shaw
Ironic from GBS 😅
I'm not religious but religious people are much happier, have many more kids and (as a general) are much kinder and mire helpful to society than my kind.
Atheists have never built a sustained society. Atheists have, however, taken working societies and turned them into ruin. Funny that in all of that philosophizing, they can't deduce the perpetual failures of their belief system.
Why have you never voted for more then one political party Coleman Hugh’s. Seems pretty closed minded and partisan for a so called intellectual, how about intellectual diversity of your thoughts? Why ur whole life have you only voted for one type of political ideas?!
The guy is only 28. He’s voted five times.
All religions are founded on ignorance and fear. Clever crooks have learned to expoit these human failings and will promise sanctitiy and peace - usually in exchange for cash. As the majority of the world's population is ignorant, and consequently fear a lot of things, these crooks have plenty of gullible fodder to tap in order to line their pockets. Another factor (related to fear) is that these crooks use threats of violence (everything from eternal damnation in hell, to "death to the infidels") to maintain a psychological hold over their followers. They have also learned that maintaining ignorance is critical, and history is awash with examples of religious cults who not only forcethe followers to study only their doctrine, but actively censor and ban opposing ideas and beliefs.
The Amish have Rumspringa, because they deliberately want healthy consent from their people. Every Amish woman and man you find has had a chance to take a look at our society and noped back to the Amish. If you were correct then we wouldn't see this tradition.
Catholic cathechistic doctrine includes the following: "Though faith is above reason, there can never be any real discrepancy between faith and reason. Since the same God who reveals mysteries and infuses faith has bestowed the light of reason on the human mind, God cannot deny himself, nor can truth ever contradict truth. ... Consequently, methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things of faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God despite himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are."
Your hate, like most, is quickly dismissed after casual inspection of the evidence. I mean, the Pope's a chemist.
I'm here for Coleman's slow, long sighs every 90 seconds. Hot.
Are conservatives and liberals more or less happier?
My question is, is our past for bearers at all happy? Were our ancestors in any real sense happy at all, in any real ways.
Probably extremely NOT.
People today are not unhappy. They most likely are more happy. Media just told them that they'd always be happy. Fooled everyone.
Being unhappy and being happy is like stubbing your toe or getting sick and getting better or the ebb and flow of life. Not being happy, is not a failure of the human experience. Its a part of it. Society needs to get used to being a human.