Diving Deep into the John Green 2014 Tumblr Lore
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00:00 - an introduction
03:47 - the chokehold
16:20 - timeline? timeline
56:15 - what happened?
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Diving Deep into the John Green 2014 Tumblr Lore
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Realising that 2014 was 10 years ago has taken its toll on me
i feel elderly
my son turns 3 in a few weeks. this video made me feel ready for the old folks home
If we stop saying it maybe it stops being true
Same
I was 19 in 2024 😅
Spoilers??
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In the middle of watching this I was hit with the horrifying memory of me being 13, reading TFIOS, being called down to dinner and my mom saying “what’s wrong?”.
I barely choked out “the cancer came back” and then threw up on my mashed potatoes from crying too violently.
oh my god
oh my god
oh my god
oh my god
oh my god
hearing people refer to hank green as "from tiktok," like he wasnt the main face of crash course for like 12 fucking years, and also an author himself , is crazy
not even to mention vlog brothers
@@kissesangel1996 and vid con
And John and Hank founded vidcon
more like vlogbrothers but also yes crash course
I'm happy someone else first heard of them from crash course.
“Do not quote the scriptures to me, I was there when it was written” is a line of comedic genius.
I laughed so hard when i saw that in my tl
narnia
it’s one of my favourite narnia quotes
who cares,
It’s from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe
I love how the whole point about John Green books is how he's able to see teenagers as complex people instead of just grown up children, anyone who was into the rookie/tavi gevinson bubble knows that teenagers do talk like that if they are given the right space for it
yes!!
ROOKIE you’re really taking me baaaack !!!
he gave a representation for pretentious teenagers like me fr
As someone who works w teens, I definitely agree but think it’s more of a “giving the right space” for a particular type of teenager in a particular era haha
GODDDD TAVI GEVINSON WHAT A THROWBACK
I have so much respect for John Green, especially bc so much of his life rn is centred around raising money for charity and advocating against tuberculosis
he's a king!
@@uncarleyHES A GOOD MAN SAVANNAH
*advocating against multinational pharmaceutical corporations contributing to thousands of preventable deaths from turbeculosis because they'd rather not sell their product at all to developing nations rather than selling it a more affordable, but ultimately still profitable, price. There, FTFY.
Not to forget that he's also contributing to building a maternal centre of excellence in Sierra Leone to decrease the maternal mortality there!
@@Eleneenie also i'm pretty sure he isn't actively contributing at the moment because the place is thriving !!! ^_^
the way this takes me back to my 14 year old tumblr-addicted, lana del rey young and beautiful, arctic monkeys do i wanna know self is cathartic
yessss iconic
Young and Beautiful 😭
The 1975 chocolate and the neighborhood sweater weather on repeat lol
I wanna go back so bad omg (I was miserable)
the way i got goosebumps remembering reading looking for alaska while playing attic monkeys. i miss it so bad
I honestly think peopl forget how crucial John Green was for the formation of the internet in general like not just how he was such a pillar and creator of Tumblr culture, but one of the firsts to use the internet to democratize (?) education with Crash Course, AND co-founding VIDCON! this man pioneered tumblr and CZcams and even if the platforms have changed a lot since then, people forget this man was quietly in the forefront of the formation of these platforms into what they were during their biggest most formative years.. idc like give him and hank a medal or smth
DFTBA was and still is a cornerstone of collective creator support and really feels like it’s carrying the torch for a bygone era of wholesome internet passion projects and fan-creator engagement.
who cares
@@ville__ You do, apparently, at least enough to watch an hour-long video about it
Little known fact: the Green brothers were also sort of tangentially involved in the creation of Patreon! Take all of this with a grain of salt because this is from my own memory, but iirc a bit before Patreon was a thing they started a conversation about how online monetization was a broken and talking about how a subscription service would be a great solution. They ended up creating a site called Subbable around the same time Patreon was created (afaik this was mostly an instance of “two people had the same good idea at the same time”) and eventually Subbable got folded into Patreon? So like, they kind of created a small part of Patreon and contributed to the early popularization of the idea.
Again take this with a grain of salt, but that’s how I remember it going down.
yes and not only that but crash course is like. an education tool actual schools and universities use which is incredible considering i have access to them for free instead of paying for expensive textbooks. they’ve been a invaluable tool for me during my education and it’s widely available for anyone to use which is SO cool
sometimes i write a sentence and if its so john green-esque i'll have to take a step back and reconsider my life choices
like i got a comment once saying how my writing gives off john green and i legitimately think about it every night like i lose sleep over this shit
thats an honor
me about looking for Alaska LONG after it was published, and it did not age nearly as well.
Well if it makes you feel better your rude comment isn't very John Green.
a family member got diagnosed with the same cancer as hazel grace as a teen (she's ok) right after the TFIOS movie came out and so she has a LIFELONG, intense resentment against Shailene Woodley specifically lmao
hahahaha fair
I get it
I also have a lifelong resentment against Shailene Woodley, but it's because I got a pixie cut in middle school and everyone said I was trying to be her lol.
she's okay? okay. (sorry lol i had to)
But Hazel's cancer its a fake vertion of it, Jonh say it, the water in her lungs its was a methaphor.
Yeah Ik lung cancer exist, but the one in the book/movie has a totally diferent funtion to actual cancer.
one time hank green replied to one of my tweets and told me to stop responding to trolls on twitter for my own sake and i never responded to a troll on twitter again. thank u hank green, john greens brother
aw thats rlly flipping sweet
the fact that tfios was the only book everyone in my non-english speaking, very religious school read in 2014 says everything about the chokehold john green had on our culture globally
so powerful
I SEE this because I LIVED it!!!! the world must recognize the John Green phenomenon
As a New Zealand who went to and Islamic intermediate and high school, I can 100% speak on this.
As a brazilian, thats absolutely true 😂
Being a tfios-reading, arctic monkeys-listening, american apparel-wearing, tumblr-addicted, depressed, hyperintelligent teenage girl in the 2010s was peak culture and I beg for it to come back.
No please don't make me do it again I barely survived the first time
Wait.. were we supposed to grow out of that? 😅 AM is one of the best albums of all time
hyperintelligent.....uh huh
Gifted and Talented curse
I remember being so mad at my mom at 12 when she refused to buy me cigarettes so that I could tell people it’s a metaphor
One entire HOUR of content to distract me from real life??? Thank you for feeding us so much
yesss
in college a boy I was in a situationship with referred to me as a John Green female character and also told me that I was 'so much like' the girl from Turtles All the Way Down... like bro just called me mentally ill in five languages
imagine being 13 year-old me growing up outside the US with limited Internet access: avid reader, starting puberty, inevitably falling in love with John Green as an author. suddenly I move to the States and attend high school where this man’s videos are used in ACTUAL class, and the Tumblr refugees I’m friends with expose me to the C*CKS*CKING MONOLOGUE HUUUHHH
I KNOW ITS WILD
Omg what is the coc*suc*ing monologue and how do I find it???
@@allearas8203 tumblr copy pasta. Just google ‘tumblr john green c*cks*ck*ng monologue’ with the * replaced with the vowels and it’ll probably show up
@@allearas8203watch the video
crash course is my highlight of the american school experience tbh
The only lore that was missing was the woman who found out her wife was faking cancer because she watched and read TFIOS and realized all the things her wife said about her cancer were just stuff from the book and the wife had based her lie on the plot of TFIOS
I need links please omg
WHAT?!
I love how the longer Carley works on Riverdale pt 4 the longer her “palate cleanse” videos get
bro ive lost my mind
An hour on John green and tumblr culture in the 2010s? Standing is suspended until further notice.
hahahaha
We didn't know how good we had it lol. I miss logging onto to tumblr and curating a chronological timeline of things I'm actually interested in. Not just scrolling away
7:51 John Green called my pretentious teenage self OUT. Being pretentious is ABSOLUTELY a part of being a teenager. I saw people complaining about the big vocabulary words and the literary references being unrealistic and I was like, cool, so your childhood and mine were different, this isn't aimed at you lol. Using big words you aren't always 100% sure are the right ones is SUCH a real thing. (I still love fun vocabulary, I just try to be less annoying about it now lmfao).
Exactly, teens are people and they are all different! News flash, some of us read Shakespeare for fun 😂 get off our backs!
@@jacforswear18 I read the Illiad in middle school. Just because I wanted to. John Green was speaking directly to me. 🤣
This portrayal of teenagers wasn’t new. Dawson’s Creek was criticized for teenagers being unrealistically portrayed with pretentious language and dialogue.
The name Hazel Grace Lancaster has always blown my mind bc my name is grace, my sister is named hazel, and we grew up in a town called Lancaster
Yeah as a 31 year old the fact that Hank is somehow "Hank Green the Science Guy from Tiktok" is so weird 😂😅 I also love people randomly being shocked that there are in fact 2 separate Green Brothers.
It used to be "Who the f is Hank?" but now he's probably seen by more younger-younger people than John bc his tiktok is so popular
Heard someone describe him as the internet's Tiktok uncle😂
and you're REALLY old if u remember the "Third Green Brother" lore...
I hand painted “Okay? Okay.” With the clouds and everything on my wall. Even took the book to Home Depot to color match the blue for the background. This video took me back 😅
WHY DID I WANT THE CLOUDS AS A TATTOO
I remember sitting next to a girl in my history class sophomore year, with the clouds painted over her backpack.
as someone deep in the vlogbrothers iceberg fishingboatproceeds is a reference to a vlogbrothers video where john talks about how on the irs tax form he's using there's a line item for fishing boat proceeds, and his life goal is to eventually have fishing boat proceeds. anyway now that ive outed myself as an absolute idiot, this video had perfect timing to me as literally last night i saw john post on tumblr. he still is putting out bangers on the website he was once doxxed off of
I was in the comments making sure someone else explained the origin of fishingboatproceeds! I have an encyclopedic memory about very few topics, but the largest is certainly Hank and John lore 😂
Me too
This era was also during my superwholock era AND my very first gf era AND our collective DIVERGENT AND FURRY/MLP ERA… this was truly a DARK year for me but I NEVER felt more alive… thank u Carley
this comment was a ROLLERCOASTER
If you had said onceler and homestuck too, I would be obligated to report this comment to The Hague.
@@turkicnomad5632 I BARELY escaped those my friend… but like I said JUST barely.. bc my second gf ever was a homestuck cosplayer the year before I met her..
The superwholock era post spn season 6 finale was wild
superwholock era was insane!! it was also around when misha collins started gishwesh and idk if it gets more niche than that lol
i just quit my job and felt like i was going to die from poverty so this is just what i needed to fill the void
so sorry bestie thinking of u
@@uncarley awww ty, im happy to have free time and i burst out laughing at you comment of “cancel elgort” you’re the bestttt😭😭😭
People do be dyin of poverty…sending thots and prayers😵
@@GoodnessKnowsProductions aww thank you for your concerns but im fine actually, im lucky to have my family and a house over my head and have the option to quit my job when most people in the war zones do not have what I have 😢
tumblr between 2012-2015 is a “you had to be there” situation, the vibes in all social media was just kind of unique and tbh i miss it lol
Carly, I don’t think you understand, The Anthropocene Reviewed is one of my favourite books of all time. You have to read it. Such a quintessentially pandemic book, yet so good
I’ve been listening to the audiobook and it’s quickly becoming one of my favorites
YES to this comment, I adore that book
yes! i wanted to say this too. the audiobook is so incredible
The podcast that came before the book is also so good. Some repeat essays, some that didn’t make it into the book. The essay on Googling is part of the podcast and I remember standing in my kitchen washing dishes and sobbing while listening, which completely freaked my roommates out.
who cares,
i love turtles all the way down (his newest book) SO much and i genuinely feel so bad for how horribly he was treated on tumblr. i heard him say a few weeks ago that people STILL send him the monologue *dozens of times a week* it sounds like a living hell
I love the new movie (on Max) so much!
As someone who was a BIG john green girl during the hayday and an avid tumblr user, who is now unfortunately an adult: the anthropocene reviewed is one of my favorite non fiction books i have ever read. so beautiful and insightful. john green u will always be famous
+++++++
i love anthropocene review! I listened to the podcast episodes too on my commute rides home and there were ones where I was just crying on the bus bc of how beautiful and heartfelt it was 😭
you wouldn't last an hour in the asylum where they raised me but carley did and is doing everything for us girlies ✨ mother behaviour
Looking For Alaska and Paper Towns will always hold a very special place in my heart. The things that those books did to my mentally ill teenage brain need to be studied. I still listen to them sometimes.
These are my top two favorites too! Paper Towns is so underrated.
I was walking through Amsterdam with friends and was hit by the sudden urge to spout about TFIOS (the Tumblr ghost overcame me)
Who cares
"things felt possible" is such an accurate assessment of the 2010s mindset
2014 was a fever dream
so true
My now husband and I went to see tfios in theaters together for our 3rd date, and I remember afterwards we had this thing where “Casually is our Always” and we’d just say Casually to each other all the time omfg we were the worst 😂 what a time
Tell my why 12 yo me would literally read this until 3am crying throwing up
same bestie
SAME. I was 13 reading tfios and my mom actually took the book away from me for like a week because it was making me too sad lmao
I would read his books In A Day
In 2018 to 2020ish, i worked in a restaurant that John Green frequented fairly often. He was super quiet and unassuming. Never would've known who he was if he hadn't been pointed out to me
tuberculosis ALWAYS enters the chat. that is one of the many things you learn from being tuned in to vlogbrothers since the ripe age of 12
As a chronically online girlie myself, did i know all of the lore YES, but did i watch the whole one hour video ALSO YES
Thank you for your service bestie!!!
As much as 2014 John Green was an ERA, I am so grateful for modern John Green. His work for tuberculosis research and advocacy has been amazing, and his latest non-fiction work "The anthropocene, Reviewed", is my favourite book ever. The work is so thoughtful and delicate, and it means the world to me. If you liked the mental health storylines in his books you read when you were younger, reading TAR gives brilliant (yet devastating) context as to the impact that those mental illnesses have had on his personal life. Anyways TLDR; John Green is my favourite creative, and I HIGHLY recommend everyone reads the anthropocene reviewed!!!!!!
Reading "Looking For Alaska" rocked my world in summer 2012.
Paper Towns supremacy! John proposed to me for my husband on the vlogbrothers channel a hundred years ago and I can't believe how much history and lore came before and since.
wow that's you?! That is such a cute video, congratulations on having the best proposal ever!
Yessss paper towns!!!!!
Ahh that video was so cute!! I hope you guys are doing wonderfully these days ❤️
I remember going through the whole "screaming, crying, throwing up" experience for the very first time. John Green might have actually created one of the rites of passage for the "academic weapon - to mentally unstable" girlies out there
The green brothers and nerdfighteria is such a wonderful part of the internet. Really good video, I wasn't really around on tumblr at the time but I was moving in circles with people that were very active. Rediscovering them in the last couple of years has been some of the best things that I have done.
“has put the killing thing between its minion lips but doesn’t give it the power to do its minion killing” is an insane sentence
carley pleeasseee do a video on the cole sprouse social experiment... the people have to Know
OMG yes
Cole Sprouse’s social experiment inflicts psychic damage, and it’s always super effective.
Yessss pls 😭😭😭
THIS like- Carley is just like other girls, and her videos heal me so much
omg such a compliment
bro i was never around for the john green era, i just recently read the fault in our stars
omg welcome
As someone who never had tumblr (or even a phone, thanks mom and dad) at that time, I love living vicariously through your memories 🤩
happy to educate!
Haven’t watched the video yet but it’s great that you’re helping raise money for Palestinians. A lot of creators try to avoid that kind of stuff because they want to avoid controversy and please everyone so it’s nice to see people with real convictions.
of course! thank you for saying this!
Carley: fishingboatproceeds
Me: war flashbacks
The pipeline from John Green fan to Sally Rooney fan is so real tbh
oh gawd the fact that I am turning 21 tomorrow just hit me by the title of this video 😭
bro i know
happy almost birthday!
@@LW-ng1fl thankyou 🥹
@UTTP-142 you 🤭
Omg same but I'm turning 20 😭😭
i remember being 16, my mom had just read my journal and i felt like my mind had been violated and the only safe place to vent my trauma was on the last page of my tfios book.
I met John Green in person when he ordered a coffee at the cafe I work at! He was so cool and sweet and took a selfie with me. He even offered to hold my phone for it because I was so nervous my hands were shaking 😂
John and Hank are both so lovely and kind in person!
carley baby you always know when we are having a rough day to make it better 🗣️
yess happy to help!
will grayson will grayson is actually such a deep cut for me. i haven’t thought about that book in YEARSSSS
The reasoning behind the name ‘turtles all the way down’ is genuinely insane and will forever be ingrained into my brain
'Its only before TFIOS and after TFIOS' sooooo trueeee
the moment you mentioned zoella on vidcon I SCREAMED because i knew exactly what was coming and somehow that made me feel connected to you on a spiritual level idk those were the good days man
Babe wake up, new Carley deep dive video on a niche(??) internet thing just dropped
yesss
I just found john green back on tumblr yesterday this couldnt have been better timed
he's returned!
@@uncarley I don't know what you're talking about, all I found was an Unpaid Intern selling coffee for charity.
same!
I read 'the fault in our stars' like... 3 or 4 times?
And the first time i read it in a day and finished it at like 2am... my mom came into my room to look why I was still awake and saw me CRYING my eyes out😂 she was so scared that something happened
this was the start of my John Green Books Binge ❤
As a mom in the south, I love the way you say mama. It’s full of endearment haha
yess! definitely!
A two day migraine 😭 girl I feel you. I also remember dragging my mom to a special Simulcast of the TFiOS movie that had a live John & cast interview after.
hahaha amazing
I was feeling old for a moment because you read these as a pre-teen and I read them as a teen. Then I remembered that we used to have a delay in the third world. You're not allowed to make me feel old.
i absolutely love youtube videos that just send me directly back to the 2012 hellscape of being a girl on tumblr like that is where i belong in my basement with an unreasonable amount of internet freedom
I grew up in Germany and I distinctly remember reading the translated version of "the fault in our stars" in my sixth grade German class in like 2013
my German teacher was this young twenty something woman who wore an "okay? okay" t-shirt on the day we wrote a test on the book, which is something that entirely slipped my mind up until now
The fact that John Green was popping in my CZcams shorts feed all the time and I only recently discovered it was him!
I loved fault in our stars, hated looking for Alaska 😅
he's back on the internet in a big way!
@@uncarley never left babyyyyyy 😎😎😎😎
The way the memory of jim chapman accidentally outing the relationship of Zoella and Alfie snapped to the forefront of my frontal lobe so quick, what a time
i feel like the tuberculosis arc was because he watched that one episode of house again and went down a rabbit hole
the covers remind me VIVIDLY of the ones you could make on wattpad with the limited presets
A 1-hour video about my entire middle school fascination? Yes, please.
I love John Green's books, personally I dont remember being a big fan of the fault in our stars, but I loved Turtles all the way down and Loking for Alaska so much
he's got something for everyone!
You should have ended it with "hank, I'll see you Tuesday"
without fail, every time the video gets to the part you included in the intro, i go absolutely insane. it's like when they say the name of the movie in the movie
LMAOOO Trust me, Mexicans don't celebrate 5 de mayo either, it's really an American thing. I don't know much about the John green contexto of it all tho
good to know!
my mom sent me an okay? okay. shirt in a care package at summer camp when i was 11 and i think that fits the vibe of this video perfectly
John Green was so important to my adolescence and his books are so genuinely good!! I very unironically think that Looking for Alaska is a classic of our generation and should be read in high school English classes
i cannot believe you mentioned the mishapocalypse…… i posted something about that literally like three years ago and no one knew what i was talking about and ive been constantly thinking about it since then…. i literally didn’t know if i imagined it so thank you lmfao
Okay? Okay.
okay? okay.
i also have been hit by a wave of nostalgia seeing the turtles all the way down interviews, like it's been nice seeing john green again in that capacity
The psychic shock I experienced when I heard you say “tfios” out loud… immeasurable
i love you so much because you’re one of the only people i know who understands this tumblr 2010-2014 lore that i miss so much on a daily basis thank you for your work please keep talking about this
Thank you for the 'jim revealing zoe and alfie's relationship' sidenote it brought back a bunch of incredible memories from easier times
This is the video my 15 year old self needed…and my 26 year old self also needs thank you queen
yesss
Tangentially, let us not also forget: Troye Sivan’s first original music post on his channel was a fault in our stars inspired song
mention of that jim chapman vidcon vlog took me OUT like WHY do i remember watching that so clearly in my memory
I was a teenage girl with a pixie cut and crippling depression in the 2010s whose favourite book was Looking for Alaska (and I still haven't come up with a better answer hELp), so I am looking forward to getting read for filth 😌😌😌
Girl, I found a lump in my boob the NIGHT I finished TFIOS as a 16 year old in 2012 (it was benign, don’t worry). I truly thought I was entering my Hazel Grace Lancaster era.
I made my dad take me to see TFIOS in theatres and he was still crying in the car on the way home after but he was PISSED about it and talking about how much he hates John green for like the entire ride, then later I heard him on the phone talking to his friend about it he was not pleased
will never forget: when I went to see the fault in our stars in theaters, the second (I'm not exaggerating) the SECOND the actual film started, some girl 3 rows back from us started absolutely wailing crying for the entire movie from that point on. It was ridiculous.
I did not know I needed this. I hope John finds this haha
bro me too i want him to come on my podcast so bad
@@uncarleyby the way, I think you would really enjoy the essay on sunsets in The Anthropocene Reviewed. It talks about this idea of using irony as a shield and how John has come to embrace his own earnestness.
The video I never knew I needed
I just wanna say that I suggested you as a creator to the vlogbrother yearly survey this year
Carley! I'm also a John Green stan and was putting off reading Anthropocene Reviewed. I finally got around to it and I'm only halfway through but I feel it has changed my life. I couldn't recommend it enough. The audiobook is also amazing and he reads it himself and it has a few extra essays and special tidbits
John Green is not Tiktok sensation Hank Green's brother. John and Hank are the vlogbrothers and founded Vidcon. The millennial/Gen Z divide is so strong here. Like you either know them from CZcams/Johns books or through Hanks Tiktoks
You should definitely read the anthropocene reviewed! It's an anthology, so it's basically evergreen and can stay on your TBR forever if you want it to, lol. It's a humbling read, full of both whimsy and earnesty, often both in the same essay.