The Gilded Age Architect Who Built A Madison Square Garden & Was Killed In It | Stanford White

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  • čas přidán 26. 09. 2023
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    Whether or not you know the name, Stanford White, you are likely familiar with at the very least the names of some of the buildings he designed. He lost his life in one of them - Madison Square Garden, the second one. Harry Thaw was the mad who got rid of Stanford, and he claimed that he did it for his wife's honor. What that the real reason, or was it out of jealousy? You decide.
    This is the story of two very bad men and a young woman who was truly faced with choosing the lesser of two evils. And the case that was the first to be called The Trial Of The Century.
    It's another Hot Mess History scandal from Ti. Enjoy!

Komentáře • 46

  • @TisHotMessHistory
    @TisHotMessHistory  Před 10 měsíci +11

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  • @hotmama298
    @hotmama298 Před 10 měsíci +17

    Wow, what a story, I hope you do a story on Evelyn. At the end of the day Evelyn was underage when she was violated so a lot of her behavior was what to be expected. She didn't realize it at the time. I feel for her she didn't have it good with her mom and she didn't haven't better with the men who ended up violating her.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 10 měsíci +3

      I will get around to telling her story. There will be some overlapping with this one, but she had an amazing life. Her dad was the only adult in her life who seemed to care about her.

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 Před 8 měsíci

      With a mother like Evelyn's who needs enemies.

  • @teresajenkins4061
    @teresajenkins4061 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I love this type of information. A perfect way to unwine from work. Thank you!

  • @eshim3961
    @eshim3961 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I am the daughter of two native New Yorkers and, as was the case with your video on Seneca village (if anyone reading this hasn't seen it, go watch it now!), I had never heard this story. I can't wait to see what's up next.😁

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 9 měsíci

      I think that's so cool! Thank you for checking out some of your city's history with me.

  • @teddygunter1130
    @teddygunter1130 Před 10 měsíci +8

    My only complaint is that I did not know about your work sooner. I thought this woman looked like a Gibson Girl and when you said she was the model I thought ha makes sense. I like the way you added to White's story as I am familiar with him. Thanks for something quality to watch related to the Gilded Age .

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 10 měsíci +3

      Hi Teddy! That's the best complaint that I have ever received on this channel. Her hair is always a giveaway. Thank YOU for watching.

  • @szatman14szat2
    @szatman14szat2 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Another fantastic job. Thank you for keeping history alive.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Thank you for watching, and thank you for your compliment!

  • @MsLPJ
    @MsLPJ Před 10 měsíci +6

    Girl, I'm all into this series. You make it interesting. Thank you.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 10 měsíci +3

      YAY! This is one of the best compliments that I can get. Thank YOU.

  • @cadillacdeville5828
    @cadillacdeville5828 Před 10 měsíci +8

    You ALWAYS give us what we didn't know we even NEEDED ❤

  • @Quan-69
    @Quan-69 Před 10 měsíci +9

    This was a very interesting story Ti- amazing narration, not to fast and not too slow. It was perfect as are you . Keep up the great work ❤

  • @aliciasmith9301
    @aliciasmith9301 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Hello Ti 🤗 and everyone sorry I miss the live but I'm here now❤❤❤🔍🔍🔍🔍🔍🔍

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Hey Alicia ❤❤❤❤ It's all good! Thank you for checking it out.
      🔎🔎🔎🔎

  • @anthonylester2624
    @anthonylester2624 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Love the Video and the Guilded Age Series

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 10 měsíci +2

      I'm so glad that you love the video. Thank you. I love the series too!

  • @susanbrissett9882
    @susanbrissett9882 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Unfortunately, the culture of abusers hasn't changed 😔

  • @TammysPassions
    @TammysPassions Před 9 měsíci +2

    This is a very interesting story. Even us crafters have heard of the Gibson girls. These groomers make me sick to my stomach. Thanks for your reporting Ti 💙🤗.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 9 měsíci

      Thank you Tammy! Yes, the Gibson Girl was everywhere! I can't stand these groomers.

  • @crencottrell7849
    @crencottrell7849 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Happy Wednesday Lady Ti 😊

  • @darnell49
    @darnell49 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ti,🥰🥰🥰. Great storytelling 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿. You can tell that you put your heart and soul into your work. Thanks for always bring the best Hot Mess History.🙏🏿❤️🙏🏿❤️

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 9 měsíci

      Thank you Darnell! I really do enjoy telling these stories.

  • @57beigefoxx
    @57beigefoxx Před 10 měsíci +6

    👀 Hello Everyone

  • @auntieeva4098
    @auntieeva4098 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Good job Ti 👍🏽

  • @cocoaorange1
    @cocoaorange1 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Evelyn even dated John Barrymore, Drew's grandpa. He really liked het, and there are rumors he got her pregnant, and Stanley paid for her abortion. It is reported Evelyn liked him too, but her mom felt he was too poor.

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yes. You are right. I will do a story about her one of these days, and I do intend to include that.

  • @racyo8755
    @racyo8755 Před 10 měsíci +1

    LOVE the content Ti! Very informative, so much “privilege “ on so many levels, SMH

    • @TisHotMessHistory
      @TisHotMessHistory  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thank you so much! The next one is premiering now in case you want to join us:
      czcams.com/video/AId7jIp6efk/video.html

  • @ericacarswell9167
    @ericacarswell9167 Před 9 měsíci +1

    They were very perverted. tjese folks wee wicked.

  • @tashibalampkin8555
    @tashibalampkin8555 Před 9 měsíci +1

    11:50 This man had FU money.

  • @cocoaorange1
    @cocoaorange1 Před 8 měsíci

    I did not know her mom wss a seamstress.

  • @Nephthys-ness
    @Nephthys-ness Před 6 měsíci

    Probably not R'd by S.White. Imo from: Reading court transcripts, newspapers, and learning about the trials + her testimony(s). She loved S White but he would never ever ever marry her. He needed to belong to society. Covert philandering was permissible, but never marriage. The man with money, jealousy and hatred, who only liked her past with White and whom her mother wanted her to marry... was not a good person. White was her patron w favors (blughgh ) / perhaps her fantasy (or ticket 🎟 to safety ) / A joint escapist fantasy .
    - The mother in so many of these stories of Gilded Age heiresses is the pimp. The fathers were often gone or changing constantly. They had the money but no truth. And the poor girls on the side saw the dream and wanted to touch it. Not knowing it was coated in so many cases in poison.
    There would be no other way to explain that she was not a virgin. And she married the only guy with money who could, Or would, marry her - Given that she was a showgirl and that name was synonymous for being loose. She desired the best in love and marriage. Her mom desired the best in money and prospects. I do agree she was ripped apart between these two men. I also think that she taunted her abuser/whipper/husband and worked to inflame his jealousy. In a way, it was also a way to be close to Smith. The stigma was so great; She had to stick to her story of being taken advantage of in the trial. But I think it took a large toll on her sanity.
    I have been binge watching your shows ~ I like your style. I tried to watch 2 other creators. And I just kept cringing over all the information that they Glossed over or misinterpreted. I really appreciate how many newspaper articles you read to glean the information that you have. I don't know if if this Gibson girl was groomedon't tricked raped or went willingly.
    But I know she had difficult decisions to make.

  • @here_we_go_again2571
    @here_we_go_again2571 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you. I was hoping you would cover this tale.
    I always felt sorry for Evelyn. Seduced by a sleaze, married to a crazy guy! However, Evelyn
    was a manipulative character
    I can't remember the name of the Gilded Age family; but I remember that the wife fired Stanford White
    during the middle of a renovation because he was trying to seduce her daughter. Sorry Hot ... The
    older I get I can remember the details but I forget names. Drat! I knew some of the grandchildren
    of these people!

  • @TheMMFamily9
    @TheMMFamily9 Před 6 měsíci

    ❤😮😊