I am an English Literature teacher from Sri Lanka. This is a set text in G.C.E. Advanced Level syllabus. This is a very impressive analysis. Joyce is one of my literary favorites. Thanks guys great work.
Great analysis! I at times feel like Eveline, as I'm sure Joyce did too. I had the option after high school to leave my hometown, but I stayed. I graduated from the local university, married my high school sweetheart, and to this day live only a block away from my parents in the same neighborhood I grew up in. There are days when I think, man, life sure could've been different if only, but really when I think on it, there's not many places I'd rather be. I'm more than content with remaining behind, holding on to the past in a way. From this story (all of Dubliners for that matter) I would assume that Joyce's strong connection to Ireland haunted him his whole life. A blessing and a curse. I can see where he's coming from in some ways.
Dust, of course, intimately linked to death. On Ash Wednesday, the priest says as he bestows the ashes, “Remember man, that thou art dust, and to dust though will return.”
As an Argentinian who moved from a small town to Buenos Aires, I relate a lot to this story. Also, how funny that they resent the Italians but want to migrate to Argentina, a country where mass immigration of Italians took place between 1980 and 1914. I myself am of Italian descent, and my boyfriend is of Irish descent.
I am creating activities on this short story. Your input has guided me tremendously in building solid activities that will advance the learners understanding
If she jumped into the ship, it would have been a complete detachment from her roots. She will fear the changed reality. I think what she did was a wise decission for her and her family. After all, she could neither be happy leaving her family nor Frank.
I love the way you discuss and analyse each story in this book. For some unknown reason nobody bother themselves to puzzle out this book. Thanks a lot for this
I have the feeling that Eveline's "eyes gave him no sign of love or farewell or recognition" because she's just having a panic attack. Don't you agree?
She was certainly in a hard place and at a point of decision. Many people, and at points Joyce himself, like to use the word "paralysis" to describe many of the characters in Dubliners.
@@TheCodeXCantina - She is a sort of catatonic state in which people are non-responsive, and stare right through people. I do not think this description was not meant to show she was selfish. In fact one of her problems is that she is giving herself constantly, and that is what she will be returning to,
No she isn't , people were not snowflakes then . Frank was going to pimp her out as a prostitute , that's what "going to Buenos Aires " means (to go on the game ), she doesn't need or want him , her life at home is better.
This was such a fun and thoughtful discussion, love the dynamic between the two of you. Eveline is such a deceptively simple, but tragic story; unfortunately there just doesn't seem to be any easy answers or fixes for her. I also really like what you said about the imagery of the sea. As another commenter said below, Where did the last 18 mins go indeed? Thanks for the discussion, really enjoyed it!
Great analysis. Also, my interpretation(s) is that the inability to make decisions (now the word paralysis comes to mind and how Joyce perceived Dublin as a paralyzed city and unable to move forward on the contrary very eagerly taking a step backwards i.e. the Celtic Revival, the point is he maintained that the dubliners should stop living in the past and move forward). He was not fond of Yeats’ poems because those were taking people l back and see how great Ireland was or is and Joyce’s fear was that would make them content and may not look into the future. Sorry for this dissertation however in conclusion the character is one of dubliners and also indicative of the collective psyche of the people-they’re under colonial rule for a very long time and always Great Britain made decisions for them for most part. Thanks for reading 🙏
The broken harmonium, The painting, and the promises... (which are a blessing of domestic safety and comfort popular in ireland are all things forgotten. the Promises... foiled by her fathers abuse, the harmonium, broken to never make music again, and the portrait can be assumed to be a dead friend. Evelines dather avoids these subjects. He hates hearing the music being played by the organ (italian immigration was very insignificant at that time so his outburst against the organ player might be mote directed at the music itself). with these being metaphorically dead things near the room of Evelines dead mother I think that her fathers saying that his friend in the portrait has gone to melbourne is her fathers way of avoiding bringing up the subject of a lost friend. This metaphorical use of location justifies the idea of going to buenos aires being a metaphor as well. this phrase, was popular at the time and meant going into prostitution. I believe that Evelines true reason for not going to buenos aires was because in her prayer, God revealed to her Frank's intentions of selling her as a prostitute. Frank being congruent in pronounciation to franc, currency in europe symbolizes his selfish motives and could
I meant to edit this to finish but I couldnt - they are to set sail to england on the night boat, this is in the wrong direction to go to buenos aires. It is feasable that they could have set off to buenos aires from england but I think that frank meant to take eveline to continental europe
Very interesting, I just wanted to point out that the Italian immigration was really modest at the time, the phrase of the father appears ironic and ignorant because of it
@@TheCodeXCantina The father is a long-time drunk at this point. So he is given to irrational bursts of anger. People like this (long-term drunks are often bigots because they are always looking for someone to scape-goat to feel bigger and better about themselves.
I think Eveline did well not go with him. He expects her to obey him. He is abrupt and demanding not comforting or understanding the difficulty of leaving your home. His behavior at that moment reveals he is a bad choice for a husband. She would be putting herself in the hands of a domineering man. I think she saw this.
Action literally happens in a minute. as the boat signals departure and starts to move out from the dock. Literally no chance for Frank to comfort her. There is nothing in the text to indicate that Frank is a bad choice. In fact the text indicates quite pointedly that Evangeline evaluates Frank a good man, kind and generous. In a literary analysis stick closely to the text.
Us? June 18th, we're releasing a video on "The Dead" but that's such a big piece. It could stand several videos to really discuss it thoroughly so we're going to pick a few focus points and maybe wrap up a bit more in a video on Dubliners as a whole.
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I am an English Literature teacher from Sri Lanka. This is a set text in G.C.E. Advanced Level syllabus. This is a very impressive analysis. Joyce is one of my literary favorites. Thanks guys great work.
Wow, thank you! Joyce is one of our top choices too. We are looking forward to continuing to do more discussions on him!
Great analysis! I at times feel like Eveline, as I'm sure Joyce did too. I had the option after high school to leave my hometown, but I stayed. I graduated from the local university, married my high school sweetheart, and to this day live only a block away from my parents in the same neighborhood I grew up in. There are days when I think, man, life sure could've been different if only, but really when I think on it, there's not many places I'd rather be. I'm more than content with remaining behind, holding on to the past in a way. From this story (all of Dubliners for that matter) I would assume that Joyce's strong connection to Ireland haunted him his whole life. A blessing and a curse. I can see where he's coming from in some ways.
Starscreamlive I’m sick of James Joyce writing about different times in my life!! How does he KNOW!?!
Hollywood never tires of propagandizing us to leave our “boring” hometowns in search of an infinitude of fleeting thrills in the “big city.”
"So excited. I don't want to throw myself off a cliff." I feel that.
Deanie I love it
Dust, of course, intimately linked to death. On Ash Wednesday, the priest says as he bestows the ashes, “Remember man, that thou art dust, and to dust though will return.”
good point Steve!
I did not even understand how 18 minutes past. This was perfect.
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As an Argentinian who moved from a small town to Buenos Aires, I relate a lot to this story. Also, how funny that they resent the Italians but want to migrate to Argentina, a country where mass immigration of Italians took place between 1980 and 1914. I myself am of Italian descent, and my boyfriend is of Irish descent.
Thanks for sharing! Small world
Well, only Eveline's father resents Italians. Eveline only recalls her father's resentment and irritation at the deathbed of her mother.
Thank you- this was very helpful
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Always good to see more Joyce videos on CZcams. Great discussion!
Bits of Lit thanks! Can’t wait to do more :)
I am creating activities on this short story. Your input has guided me tremendously in building solid activities that will advance the learners understanding
Great, best of luck to you and your students!!
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If she jumped into the ship, it would have been a complete detachment from her roots. She will fear the changed reality. I think what she did was a wise decission for her and her family. After all, she could neither be happy leaving her family nor Frank.
Thanks for sharing
I love the way you discuss and analyse each story in this book. For some unknown reason nobody bother themselves to puzzle out this book. Thanks a lot for this
your channel deserves more recognition!! what an awesome analysis🙌🏼
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Krypto's Irish accent is pretty damn good.
Ah, "Eveline" proving once again that Joyce saw Ireland as the place where hope rarely exists.
Bookish he has put me to shame on the accent department
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Great analysis!! Thank you so much for your work
Great to have such a summary
I have the feeling that Eveline's "eyes gave him no sign of love or farewell or recognition" because she's just having a panic attack. Don't you agree?
She was certainly in a hard place and at a point of decision. Many people, and at points Joyce himself, like to use the word "paralysis" to describe many of the characters in Dubliners.
@@TheCodeXCantina - She is a sort of catatonic state in which people are non-responsive, and stare right through people. I do not think this description was not meant to show she was selfish. In fact one of her problems is that she is giving herself constantly, and that is what she will be returning to,
No she isn't , people were not snowflakes then . Frank was going to pimp her out as a prostitute , that's what "going to Buenos Aires " means (to go on the game ), she doesn't need or want him , her life at home is better.
This was such a fun and thoughtful discussion, love the dynamic between the two of you. Eveline is such a deceptively simple, but tragic story; unfortunately there just doesn't seem to be any easy answers or fixes for her. I also really like what you said about the imagery of the sea. As another commenter said below, Where did the last 18 mins go indeed? Thanks for the discussion, really enjoyed it!
Thanks for the kind words!
Great analysis. Also, my interpretation(s) is that the inability to make decisions (now the word paralysis comes to mind and how Joyce perceived Dublin as a paralyzed city and unable to move forward on the contrary very eagerly taking a step backwards i.e. the Celtic Revival, the point is he maintained that the dubliners should stop living in the past and move forward). He was not fond of Yeats’ poems because those were taking people l back and see how great Ireland was or is and Joyce’s fear was that would make them content and may not look into the future.
Sorry for this dissertation however in conclusion the character is one of dubliners and also indicative of the collective psyche of the people-they’re under colonial rule for a very long time and always Great Britain made decisions for them for most part.
Thanks for reading 🙏
I agree with everything you’ve said. We’ll done!
I love these videos ! I’m a senior In hs and we are reading this this video made me laugh and seriously super high quality video
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The broken harmonium, The painting, and the promises... (which are a blessing of domestic safety and comfort popular in ireland are all things forgotten. the Promises... foiled by her fathers abuse, the harmonium, broken to never make music again, and the portrait can be assumed to be a dead friend. Evelines dather avoids these subjects. He hates hearing the music being played by the organ (italian immigration was very insignificant at that time so his outburst against the organ player might be mote directed at the music itself). with these being metaphorically dead things near the room of Evelines dead mother I think that her fathers saying that his friend in the portrait has gone to melbourne is her fathers way of avoiding bringing up the subject of a lost friend. This metaphorical use of location justifies the idea of going to buenos aires being a metaphor as well. this phrase, was popular at the time and meant going into prostitution. I believe that Evelines true reason for not going to buenos aires was because in her prayer, God revealed to her Frank's intentions of selling her as a prostitute. Frank being congruent in pronounciation to franc, currency in europe symbolizes his selfish motives and could
I meant to edit this to finish but I couldnt - they are to set sail to england on the night boat, this is in the wrong direction to go to buenos aires. It is feasable that they could have set off to buenos aires from england but I think that frank meant to take eveline to continental europe
thanks for the analysis, ive found it very helpful!
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only point I disagree with is that Joyce definitely did not love Dublin.
Would you agree with love/hate?
Very interesting, I just wanted to point out that the Italian immigration was really modest at the time, the phrase of the father appears ironic and ignorant because of it
Thank you
@@TheCodeXCantina The father is a long-time drunk at this point. So he is given to irrational bursts of anger. People like this (long-term drunks are often bigots because they are always looking for someone to scape-goat to feel bigger and better about themselves.
I've seen somewhere that Buenos Aires literally means "Good air". :)
Indeed!
And aDublin at this time had bad air.
I think Eveline did well not go with him. He expects her to obey him. He is abrupt and demanding not comforting or understanding the difficulty of leaving your home. His behavior at that moment reveals he is a bad choice for a husband. She would be putting herself in the hands of a domineering man. I think she saw this.
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Action literally happens in a minute. as the boat signals departure and starts to move out from the dock. Literally no chance for Frank to comfort her. There is nothing in the text to indicate that Frank is a bad choice. In fact the text indicates quite pointedly that Evangeline evaluates Frank a good man, kind and generous. In a literary analysis stick closely to the text.
@@MaryDBethany yes, she saw him as a good man but stress plumbs the depths of character and there are a lot of stresses during a lifetime of marriage.
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Listen, there is no exact moment in the ending that eveline stayed, soo... 😂
Eveline /evəlin/
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okay, it's either our teacher didn't give us the whole thing or i have to hold against you. It is nowhere nearly written her mum'd have cancer.
I misspoke. It’s an unspecified illness.
In short, she discovers she tries to ran from her boring life rather loving the man. So she is not going. A real good honest decision.
Should do The Dead if you haven’t already.
Us? June 18th, we're releasing a video on "The Dead" but that's such a big piece. It could stand several videos to really discuss it thoroughly so we're going to pick a few focus points and maybe wrap up a bit more in a video on Dubliners as a whole.
The CodeX Cantina brilliant! Just found your channel and subscribed immediately. Quarantine allowed the time to really delve into James Joyce. Dubliners and Portrait done and now halfway through Ulysses - hopefully I finish it on Bloomsday! I will be looking forward to your video in The Dead. Brilliant story and the song The Lass of Aughrim is so fitting. Buzzing to have found your channel, keep up the good work!
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Who hasn't asked that question before? "Should I stay or should go?" I have. czcams.com/video/xMaE6toi4mk/video.html
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