Diy Workbench Ideas - Wrap your Bench Edge
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- DIY Workbench Ideas. Rob Cosman shows you how to wrap the edge his Cosman Workbench top in solid wood. This idea elevates your Cosman Workbench to a real beauty with very little effort.
00:00 Overview
01:26 Stock Dimensions
05:46 Milling the Stock
06:55 Dovetail Joinery
10:54 Trimming the Workbench Top
17:57 Gluing on the Edgeband
23:45 Plane the Edgeband Smooth and Flush
25:50 The Completed Project
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About your comment at the end "hope this helps". Thanks again, your videos always helps!
What I like most from your work and your videos Rob, is that you show almost everything as they happen. You don't edit your videos just to win as the best video on youtube or to gain millions of likes. You show the mistakes and the difficulties you had during the process. Not all of them ofcourse but some. I'm so glad to find your works here. Thanks to share with us and congratulations to be like this.
Rob has such a calming spirit. His videos really make sense and challenge me to be a better craftsman. Thank you Rob.
Thanks for watching and commenting
I have noticed that what makes a great woodworker or craftsman of any kind is the ability to innovate just as was done here to cut the dovetails on the long boards.
I really think I want to get into fine hand tool woodworking until I see a Rob Cosman video. With 3 young children all under 8, I don't have the time to do become anything but watch and admire. Power tool woodworking for the foreseeable future is ok with me.
Thanks Rob, I'm working on a bench right now. This helps.
Its a beauty...its a piece of art!!!
Love it! Great idea, definitely will be adding this.
When you do send us a pic at RobCosman.com
Bought your plans and hope to build my own soon. Now I’m glad I procrastinated a bit so I can do this from the start.
Yes it would be a bit easier from the get go
Rob, you got some guns on ya buddy, I know how heavy that top is and you put through that saw like a champ ! Impressive!
I have my base done but was waiting for summer vacation to finish the top. Will definitely be adding the “edge banding” to the top as I build it. Thanks for the great videos on this work bench. Looking forward to finally completing it and putting it to use. Cheers!
send us a pic when you get her done
II did it the already joined all the way, and it fit so tight a friend commented on how tight it went on, to my video! Thanks for inspiration again!
Impressive how finely machined the dimensions were on both the top and the banding. The table was a big piece to cut for such exacting requirements.
That was an amazing job Rob. Nerve-wrecking at times but you did a great job. Enjoyed every minute of it.👍
thanks for watching and commenting
Love the care and skill you take to make every step perfect. The bench is so much better well done Rob...
Thanks for watching and commenting
The world's largest crosscut sled, lol.
I would kill to have a table saw that can cut so cleanly, and quickly, through that much MDF all at once. Watching the SawStop cut is just beautiful. What a machine.
A Sawsop is the ONLY table saw to own, period.
Showing some mad skills Rob.
Thats the way we roll
Rob, this is a very clean upgrade for your MDF bench. The top looks great!
I think so too. Thnaks for watching and commenting
I really appreciate how meticulous your approach is in everything you do; the sense of craft appears to be genetic. What a refreshing change from all the 'git 'er done' types out there...
Thanks for sharing those tips, and the make!
You bet
That bench looks awesome all retrofitted up with that edge-banding Rob. Now you just have to do the rest of them. Nothing to it but to do it.
Not happening
Great Job !! It looks very nice . I think its the “ cherry of the cake “ 👌
I think so too! next is a cabinet for below
If I was building another one today, I would do it this way. Worth the extra work for the fun, look, and longevity. After building my Cosman bench, I changed my mind on it being a "starter", it's really really good and I plan to use it forever.
Thnaks for that evaluation....thats what we think too
I made a hybrid. I wrapped and end capped two 3" MDF tops, put a flip stop like a split top roubo and a tool well in between them, made one side sort of like a Nicholson, with sliding deadman, holdfast/peg holes in the apron and leg, and a crochet, and the other side a leg vise and wagon vise. I did it with well dried construction lumber, because it's a workhorse, not a show pony. Some day I will copy it in Maple that I have had for four years for that purpose, but for now, it is a great bench. Having two sides to work on is amazing, and being able to hold workpieces in every way imaginable is great, with a Moxon vise and the usual shooting boards and bench hooks, it does everything.
Nice upgrade! That was some impressive precision on the fit as well.
Thnaks so much
Good work. You know your woods.
That is what I did to mine, I love it Rob
Send us a pic and we will post it....see our customer project section of RobCosman.com
I am amazed that with all the people around you that someone did stand near by to help besides the cameraman. Great job!
thanks for watching and commenting
Man! MDF never looked so good! Well done!
Thnaks for watching and commenting
neat idea for dovetailing the long boards. i have the advantage, and sometimes disadvantage, of having the bare trusses in my carport. if i have a very long board i can clamp it to the rafter and grab a ladder.
Yes that's a great way. I would do the same if I had exposed trusses
never heard of torrefied maple before. I had to look it up. lol very impresive job. No way I could even attempt to cut that on a table saw. Love you effortlessly you use your plan (how sharp it is).
I think that is a great idea in concept. I hate that polyurethane glue. I was freaking out about the glue expanding and then you not being able to get the last side on. Wow it looks really good.
Wow, a great accent to spruce up the looks of the MDF bench top~!!
Yes I think so, was not sure at first
very cool video thanks
Thanks for the visit
I got a 42”x84”x1-1/2” maple butcher block from Boos super cheap. I am planning on laminating it into a 20x60 top with the cutoff for the end vise. This edging looks like it would be a great addition!
Try it I think you will like it
Excellent video, but only having a job site table saw, I would have to use a track saw to cut the worktop to fit.
Congratulation to 200k subscribers :)
Thank you so much 😀
That sure added more visual deminsion to the bench.
Yes I really like it
Rob, you're a gifted teacher. Love your work. I know you've said it before, but I can't remember. What finish do you use on the MDF top of your workbench? Thanks for all you do.
Typically a Lacquer finish, but a couple times I’ve used a tongue-oil.
Excellent video Rob! I'm preparing to build Rob's workbench and was
thinking of adding this very same thing. But after viewing the video I
wonder if cutting a 3/4" square rabbet around the top perimeter of the
top and inserting 3/4" x 3/4" hardwood would accomplish the same thing
to protect the edge. The rabbet could easily be cut with a router. The
smaller hardwood footprint would also be in keeping with this less
expensive workbench approach.
Yes that could easily be done. The only down side I can see is that it doesn't hide all of the MDF core, but if you dont care about that ......
Love the finished look. If the Torrefied maple is not as strong and you need polyurethane glue, which I've had fail in most cases as it's just too brittle for long term movement, I'll use a wood that is tougher. That's not a process I'd want to do twice on the same bench. It may make a good future video for you when you need to repair it though.
Good point, time will tell. I used it because I dont want any movement issues.
I am impressed with the way that Sawstop cut through 3” of MDF in one pass like butter! Is that a 3 hp mother, Rob? Also… my biggest takeaway from this video was the bracing method you used to cut the tails in your long boards. I am building a 72” shelf to stand on the back of my desk/reloading bench and I’ve been puzzling out this part of the task for a couple of weeks… I don’t want to ruin a nice 6’ piece of red oak by having it move while I try cutting my tails! This is a great solution, thanks.
James, you echo my thoughts on the SawStop. There is one at the local Woodcraft teaching unit. This thing runs like a watch.
This is a little late. I've read instrument builders might use hide glue on torrified wood.
I like old brown glue and titebond liquid hide glue, I use these quite often. I have some hide glue pellets and a warming pot to use the real stuff someday.
For my money liquid hide glue is less messy than polyurethane. It is gooey and can get on things such as your clothes and hands but it cleans up easily. Even after it cures. ❤
This finishes the bench up nicely. Using cherry would you be concerned with the dovetails breaking as the banding moves?
I'm moving my wood working into a larger area. I want to build a bench similar to your great design, but I want to include a tail vice and moxon vice that I build. And I want to build it using ply. Any comments on using ply instead of MDF. Thank you for a great video.
Thanks for sharing how this is done. Love your videos. Maybe someday I’ll take a class up there. One question…I’m just wondering on that 2nd cut of bench length… why not flip it over and make a second pass on the table saw with your sled leaving a consistent amount too long like an 1/8 or 1/16 to trim with flush trim router? Why the hand saw in a blind kerf?
Too big, too heavy and too awkward. Was easier to get a nice cut on the top and hand saw and rout/plane the bottom
Can you add a Shoulder Vise? The Cosman workbench keeps getting better and better. It appears that all that is needed, to make it a full budget version of the "ultimate" birdseye maple veneered workbench, is to add a shoulder vise. I am in the process of assembling the materials to build one from scratch. The 1inch MDF has just arrived. My thinking is that I will use a router to cut a space in the middle piece of the MDF sandwich for threaded rod to run across the bench to hold the shoulder securely and the same method plus a pocket hole to secure the end cap. I am still in the planning phase. Comments / advice would be appreciated. For example, should I use a spline to align the endcap? The MDF is very stable, but the shoulder will be made of hardwood. Are there any expansion/contraction issues that I need to consider?
Really cool and interesting watching you go about this in real time for the video. The way you think through it, expand your sled and use the cauls instead of asking for an extra hand. Question for Rob. I have a bunch of 8 x 10 red oak boards I got from a leftover job site. Would this be a good material for making a bench? Not sure what I am going to do with it.
Not for the top, red oak is too porous and it will look dirty really fast. OK for the base.
awesome. you need to get the japanese 3 hp makita router, like me. nice
Thanks for the tip!
Bought your plans and glad I waited; for two reasons, first this is a great addition, and second wood is astronomical here in the states. Also, where can I by torrefied lumber in the states?
Sorry I do not know. I get mine form Exotic woods of Toronto
Had the same problem with the long board when I did my bench top. I cut the dovetail on a ladder.
Its always a challenge trying to figure out how to cut the long boards
I’m very curious why regular wood glues don’t work on torrified woods?
Great video Rob, you guys need to invest in a track saw.
I have been thinking about it. Which one do you have?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I agree with Dan it would be a very useful addition.
The Mafell MT55 battery version is a beast. Coupled with a rail square it's easy to produce perfect 90 degree cuts too.
I totally expected him to say "well I'm going to have to reach the dovetail so let's make a quick set of stairs"
Very impressive. The accuracy of the measurements to get the sides in perfect. I think that is the problem with folks like me. I'm always just a fraction off. I may hit it on the nose on some part of the work but there are always misses which makes the project mediocre to the trained eye. Huhuhu.
I just finished a pine tabletop for my workbench. What brand and type sealer should I use?
Yes first like! That has never happened to me :)
You get two gold stars!!!!!!
We’re you missing the hole in the floor at your old shop for those dove tails ? Great video
Hi Rob, currently building your workbench and I'd love to add some edgebanding to it. Unfortunately I don't have access to any torrified wood, I do have some 100mm wide 20mm thick sapele that I'd love to use. What would be the best way to attach this to the mdf top avoiding any issues with wood movement. I was thinking maybe glueing it to the top most mdf layer only?
Thanks
I thought the Cosman bench was designed for relatively new woodworkers to get started for a little over a hundred bucks using construction techniques requiring modest skills and limited tools, such as eliminating the need for mortise and tenon joints and reducing the need for a lot of clamps. While the dovetailed torrefied maple edge banding is gorgeous and shows off Rob's skills, I'd like to see a more pragmatic edge banding video for those of us just getting started.
As I mentioned, you can use a butt joint, a rabbet, a mitre or anything you like. This video was how to do it with dovetails.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I understand, but it would be useful for those of us with more limited skills / access to specialized wood to hear your advice on methods and materials for simpler options. For instance, if using untreated hardwood, would you use Titebond or maybe screws if movement is a concern, and if so what type of screws? Your tips and tricks in the Cosman Bench Video were extremely useful, so perhaps you could include some tips for edge banding options in one of your Saturday evening sessions.
Great workbench How would you best finnish the MDF top.
Oil or lacquer, just enough to prevent glue from sticking.
Great job. What kind of finish do you put on your workbench top?
I use Tung Oil finish or spray on lacquer...can of depends on how I feel on the day I make one
Rob what kind of finish did you use on the whole top at the end?
I wrapped mine in poplar when I built it! You mentioned the poly glue, could epoxy (west systems) work with the torrified wood?
Yes I think that would work fine...get the long open time epoxy
Just curious, would a trace saw be an easier way to cut that than the table saw?
HI rob beautifuly edge.
Hey Rob is the torrified Maple hard on the plane blades and saw blades does it dull them faster than regular hardwoods?
Not at all, at least in my experience.
Great way to dress up the bench. Are you using the polyurethane glue strictly because of the torrified maple?
Yes
When I build mine I want to add solid banding and a shoulder vice, if I use beech and only glue the top inch all the way around would that keep the movement at the bottom so keep the top flush?
I was wondering about only gluing the bottom part - below the mdf - to allow repair/replacement of the top.
Where do you get the torified maple? I really want to work with that wood. Great video going to try it on my Cosman bench that I am in the process of building. Great timing!!
"Torrefied"
robcosman.com/pages/newsletter-article-torrefied-wood
Thanks great article.
Hi Rob! Can you talk about when it is safe to use a table saw miter gauge in conjunction with a fence?
Well I think its always safe. You want a fence on your miter gauge when you have a big piece you are pushing and the miter gauge head just doesnt give you enough surface area to hold the workpiece steady
Only do that when you are not cutting all the way through the wood. De danger is when a loose piece gets wedged between the blade and fence. To be on the safe side you can clamp a piece of wood to the fence well before the blade that you can reference off so that when you do the actual cut the fence is a good distance from the wood.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thanks so much for the reply! This is super interesting because I've heard many warnings about avoiding kickback. Have you covered kickback prevention in any of your videos?
By the way, it's been a pleasure learning from you so far. :)
Will the vice push your work piece into the that maple and mess it up? I have never worked with that cooked wood and if I have to used polyurethane glue I probably never will
yup that "cooked" wood will not absorb any water so it wont move. I am not worried about the vise messing it up, but time will tell
What do you put on mdf to protect? Thanks! New sub and creator, taking notes and lessons.
I oil or spray lacquer, the latter is much faster.
You ever tried shellac? Was just watching light slide, going to build 2, use for my camera too
Hey Rob, what is wrong with your track saw? surely that would have been a little safer?
Does the end of the MDF soak up much of the glue? Is that something that you need to think about when doing something like this?
It didnt seem to soak up it up, I had no problem
Can't help but wonder why you didn't use a track saw our circular saw with a guide for trimming the top. I thought it might have been about depth of cut but even the table saw was maxed out.
No need with a Saw Stop and a good outfeed table.
So, I'm guessing that Odie's oil is out of the question? I was thinking of doing an end table top in torrified curly maple.
Not really I just have never used it so I cannot give any evaluation on it. I know lots of folks like it
Are plywood cabinets worth it?
I was watching this videos and wondering. Could someone use two pieces of MDF for the top and edge glue regular wood and laminate that to the MDF as the third layer. It would look as though it was a solid wood bench but the core is MDF. You would still have the weight. I’m also wondering how well the laminate joint would hold up
I am curious about that sort of construction as well. I fully expect the glue to make a strong laminate. The part I wonder about, is just how seasonally stable a stack like that would be.
edit: I think that if you paid close attention to the grain orientation when gluing up the top wood panel, you could ensure that the top would stay flat, but just expand and contract up/down.
Sure you could but then the edge of the third or last layer of MDF would still be exposed. Why not cover that up too?
If I choose to use a hardwood instead of torrified wood how can I allow for expansion. I would be adding the sides on a new build.
You're building a workbench, not a violin.
Are we not going to talk about that being a 150-250 pound table top that Rob just lugged right over to his saw and cut without slipping a disc or snapping his femur in half?
You stated that you recoated the work bench but didn't mention what product you used ... Please let me know. Thx
Hope ya have a very Merry Christmas!
How about a bench top made out of structural 2X4's.
Torrefied wood does still absorb moisture, obviously not as easy as un-treated wood. After the thermo process is done, they add steam into the kiln until the wood reaches 3-6% moisture
Not according to those that we have both purchased from and those that have produced it. It sits on the surface, but is not absorbed. In fact, the way to tell if it has been properly Torrefied is to weigh it before soaking in water for 24 hours. After 24 hours if it weighs the same you’ve done it correctly.
I missed it. What kind of wood is that?
This is a pretty solid little workbench. While once you figure out how it comes together, it is physically Easy to assemble czcams.com/users/postUgkxyFZUPFEey-PuqsPMxqaykBhgA1LWxFHh by yourself. But the diagrams explaining the steps are really pretty bad. I could not get the handle pins in all the way despite multiple attempts, so I just used a screw I had on hand for the 2nd handle. I could not get the first pin in further or pull it back out. You are supposed to hammer it in, but I had no leverage and the handle is plastic and I did not want to risk breaking it. I will get a lot of use out of the bench because of the convenient size and height. It does fold up nicely for storage. They even explain how to fold it so you don't get pinched...that is important!
I may have missed it, but why didn't you cut the ends all the way through on the table saw? 14:40
I believe his blade height was maxed out. When you add the thickness of his crosscut sled, the blade left that little bit to hand cut/route off.
The blade could handle the long sides but adding the sled- no go.
Yes Brian is correct
How about a rabbet and an inlay.
i swear the man is aging in reverse
Yes I will be 32 next month!!!!
Grecian Formula
When you refer to “rest of the world” that uses “metric” , mind you: we are about 95% of humanity, if not more and we all (metric woodworkers) love to enjoy your dedication and willingness for sharing your experience. Think about us for a couple of seconds in each video. That will be greatly appreciated.
Gorilla Glue makes a none foaming poly glue..
I didnt know that
You need a hole in the floor to drop the sides into.
best part of my old shop. need a jack hammer to do it here.
I really don't see the point of whacking off the sides and end of the MDF bench top. You could simply cut a shallow rabbet to
remove the round over edge and then fill it in with the same maple or another species to accent it, no whacking off required.
A larger top with more overhang allows for more clamping area underneath...
So I do it my way and you do it your way, we can always agree to disagree.
Great video! But, instead of me spending 30 minutes trying to figure out what you're saying, what it is and where to find it, just say, "super glue."
That top has to be a heavy thing
Ah yeah the rest of the world that uses metric… except here in the Uk where to be honest we actually use Both in reality lol
3e
Using a massive sawstop to demonstrate doesn't help any beginner wood worker (the type who need to build a first work bench) please use affordable tools which are more obtainable for the starter.
You can always use hand tool techniques to mill the boards. We have a whole series on how to do that
@@RobCosmanWoodworking thanks Rob! That's great!