Winds of Winter Predictions: The Battle of Fire
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- Daenerys may have left Meereen at the end of A Dance with Dragons, but the battle of fire isn’t waiting for anyone - it’s about to go down on the opening pages of The WInds of Winter. Barristan, Tyrion, Jorah and Penny, the Unsullied, and the newly-arrived Ironborn fleet are about to do battle with the armies of the slave cities of Essos, and we’ll set the stage for the carnage to come.
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you have no fucking clue how hyped i am for this. the final playlist will be on repeat until twow
fuck. yes.
It will be epic!
I'm beyond grateful and pumped for this and every video to follow. Thank you both! 🥰🌻✌ Also... I'm so here for some proper Sir Barristan epic love.
Believe me, it will be my new sleep playlist when it's done. It will be glorious, and darken my dreams with blood, fire, and ice.
Ohh yeahh!!
I too would like to see a Daario rampage. I'd rather see him die raging in battle than just get dumped and take it like a chump. I don't think he's going to be Dany's endgame but he too deserved better than HBO's treatment of him
I think Tyrion's greatest way to show his worth is the intimate knowledge of the current political structure of Westeros, the Lannister's in particular, and the knowledge that Aegon exists and is coming to Westeros before Danny (don't remember if he knows about the Golden Company), which is vital information she doesn't have. This fact probably will help speed the plot along so Danny moves on from Meereen.
Out of all the coming conflicts (Euron at Oldtown, fAegon at Storm's End, Stannis in the North and Barristan in Meereen) the Battle of Fire is probably the one I'm looking forward to the least. That being said, you guys did a great job in hyping up this battle, especially the dynamic between Barristan, Tyrion and Victarion is something I had never really thought about. Can't wait to hear more about all the other storylines from you two. Anyone that keeps the TWOW hype going in 2020 is a winner in my book!
Definitely a testament to George that he writes political intrigue and fantasy so well that the battle that has *dragons* mincing around the sky going ham is the one that people could be *less* interested and enthused for. I, for one, agree with everything you said.
I mean, I wouldn’t say Barristan is the one to look out for with Victarion.
In the fighter pit, a bear and a bull fight. Jorah is commonly called a bear, Victarion is commonly called a bull.
With how GRRM writes, there’s a decent chance it’s Jorah who will come to blows with Victarion, most likely being because Jorah will be impulsive due to emotions.
I think Marwyn is by far my favourite side character. I love how he's basically rebelled against the academia of Westeros in his pursuit of knowledge.
Mine too!
He’s also on his way to mereen don’t forget
I REALLY need to see what he's planning. He got in my head and George only knows what's going to happen.
Yes, he is extremely intruiging
This is like a cool drink of water to wash out the bad taste of GOT season 8! I am so looking forward to the rest of this series. You two make such a great team.
That's JUSTR whatever we were aiming for Tracy! cheers ~
I still have a difficult time hoping that " The Winds of Winter" will ever be published.
I'm not sure the Ironborn fleet will be the one to take Daenerys home. At least not *just* the Ironborn fleet. Remember that Volantis reportedly sent their ships to Slaver's Bay as well, and from Tyrion's time there we know that the slaves outnumber the nobles around 10 to 1 I believe and more importantly they all worship Dany as their savior. Well, who do you think are captaining those warships? If you ask me I think a slave revolt definitely seems to be in the cards, with a large part of the Volantene fleet going over to Dany as well. She will need all the ships she can get after all if she is going to recruit a bunch of Dothraki at Vaes Dothrak.
It's kind of foreshadowed by the slave revolt that led to the genesis of Bravos, so it would be tasty indeed if a Valyrian was the cause of a slave ship-revolt, but in an opposite manner.
I don't think dany will go all the way to vaes dothrak i think she will control that small khalasaar that rode up on her i think she will have 20,000 screamers
I would argue that Tyrion didn't sway the Second Sons. The release of the dragons is what swayed them. Brown Ben Plumm was very straigthforward in his disagreement of keeping the dragons chained, and that was the reason he defected. Also if anyone swayed them it's Mormont (Preston). He has raport with Dany and the Second Sons, while Tyrion is just a Lanister hostage that plays chess.... I mean cyvasse well.
But there is one thing that Tyrion knows that is of grave importance (except the dragon-lore) for Dany that people seem to forget.
Tyrion is one of the very few people that knows about Aegon Blackf....erm Targaryaen. Meanwhile in KL they still think the Stormland invasion is just a family feud of Red "Herring" Conningtons and Stepstonian pirates.
yeah we'll get into that during the Mummers dragon episode, I totally agree
Queen in Da North
11:55 "...she's just kind of been winging it."
Best unintentional pun in a while!
The next 23 days should be a real treat. You guys are doing good work.
just trying to help wash out the bad taste from the HBO show ;)
@@DavidLightbringer Haha that's a worthy cause, I thank you for your efforts.
as good as jordan baby
"If you think you already know how the story of A Song of Ice and Fire ends... well, guess again...
Because GRRM isn't a mediocre writer."
damn right!
Just a very very slow writer...
@@1992zorro Yeeeeeeeeeah. My opinion might have changed in the past two years. Lol...
A POV of Dothraki mixing cultures with the Ironborn, on the way to Westeros is what I’m going to dream about tonight.
They would connect on so many things! The only thing they disagree strongly on is salt water 😂
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicolvocanoconiosis lol true I forgot that. But seeing the Dothraki fight may give new perspective to those open minded ironborn. Seems like if you sub longships for horses they would have a lot to discuss together
Oh my God I never thought of that before, its going to be lime reuniting with long lost family 😂
Can I just say that I love that you guys are talking about this fictitious war to come like two very serious sports commentators? It is the most wholesome and nerdy thing ever.
PS: love these videos! I'm so excited for this book. Can't wait.
Can we talk about the absolute unit that is strong belwas? The madman took down a whole tray of poisoned munchies and survived to serve his dragon waifu. In awe of the size of that lad
I was so sad Belwas was left out of the show
@@210SAi right one of my favorite characters
Excellent video! One thing came to mind while you were discussing politics is that I think Tyrion is going to be immediately suspicious of the Green Grace. I think she may remind him of Cersei (and he has hang ups about powerful women who wear green lol), or she might bring Olenna to mind for him and make him wonder about her role in Joffrey’s death. Either way, I think she’s going to ping his suspicion radar in a way she didn’t for Dany because of Tyrion’s experiences with Cersei and his still deeply rooted misogyny toward powerful women. Tyrion would absolutely hear “the sons of the Harpy” and think “the harpy must be a woman because all women are harpies.” Can’t wait for the next video!
interesting! What is your take on the Green grace - is she in league with the Sons of the Harpy or no?
@@DavidLightbringer IMO the Green Grace IS the Harpy (though obviously not for any misogynistic reasons!) - I missed it on my first read through but on subsequent re-reads the clues jumped right out at me and I was amazed I didn't spot it before. In particular, the passages involving the child hostages Dany refuses to kill are very revealing, but there are many more hints throughout the Meereen chapters. I don't understand why lots of people think the Meereen chapters are boring - all the plots and politics going on are masterfully written and very rewarding on re-reads.
P.S. Loving this series, just doing some catching up! Not sure how you guys manage a video a day, as I haven't even managed to watch them all!
@Ba'al the Bard 100% agree with this. Tyrion is going to see through a lot of shenanigans that Barristan & Co are simply not equipped to when he joins Dany's court. My personal theory is that Tyrion won't be Dany's Hand, but rather will be made her fool when he swears allegiance to her. A Mushroom mk2, if you will :D
Great to see this one land! Nice job guys. One point. As Dany has the rider bond to Drogon, I don’t think She’d actually exert a lot of control over the other 2. I do wonder about Drogon having a bond to those 2 though. They may follow “him” because he is the strongest of their kind.
You may be right about that!
@@tracymetherell8744 yeah interesting idea from the Green Bard there
Lucifer means Lightbringer I mean, she is their mother, so I don’t think they’d hurt her but she definitely abandoned them, and I expect further consequences from that. This stuff is so fascinating to me!
You and Preston Jacobs should collaborate on future battles. He’s also done an analysis on most of the major battles (The Battle of Blood and the Battle of Steel are two of my personal favorites) that are well-thought-out and interesting to hear about.
Quinn and Preston should collaborate period, imagine if they were shitting on the last season when it came out together
When did he do Battle of Steel? I’ve only seen the Battle of Blood on his channel. Which, I agree, was a great video. I’d really like to see his take on the Battle of Steel though, that seems to be the one people are talking about the least.
@@grizzlyadams8277 He talked about how he thinks the Battle of Steel is going to go down on his last video on Arianne's sample chapter.
@@abiolaadedeji1868 That would be much better then Preston and the bro dude guy he plays off of now, the Pinky and the Brain schtick grew old quickly.
@@TYTfan yea I mean I've gor no beef with Carmine but he doesn't seem to understand the lore enough to be truly outraged about it
I think that Dany has not left the battle of Mereen. Remember that she succeeded reaching the Dothraki army together with Drogon, therefore I think that she will negotiate the allegiance with them from a stronger position!
We will see an enormous war of liberation in the next book
She still has to secure an alliance AND get them to Mereen. That’s going to take a while so who knows if the Dothraki make it in time to fight in this battle.
They can't capture dany like they did in show and take her to vaes dothrak i think drogon will just eat the khal and then she will lead that small khalasaar to meereen i think she might have 20,000 screamers and call for the rest after the battle?
So LML, you are saying that Victarion will have an INSTRUMENTAL role in deciding the outcome of the battle? xD
I'm BLOWN away by the wordplay xD
I'm seriously looking forward to these videos. You two are reviving the asoiaf youtube scene
Super excited to see you guys together for this series! Both of you are my favorite ASOIAF content creators. You guys keep me hyped for Winds, that's for sure. I look forward to this series from you!
Guys, the art work is next level. Thanks for a great collaboration, am super excited. Why aren’t you guys wearing your own merch? ❤️
"This video is going to be very short." Yes, for you it is LML.
haha guilty as charged... they will all be in the 15-25 min range with a couple of longer ones (House martell ep is like 50 min)
The longer the better as far as I am concerned. I want the two of you to include all your ideas and fully discuss each topic. It will be a pleasure to watch every one.
Ser Barristan the Bold is amazing!! Since the killed him they should have at least gave a nod to him in the finally season when Dany was questioning Ser Jaime. Like “ Ser Barristan told me how the mad king, my father earn his name and also how you earned yours kingslayer, what we he council me to do with you?” Might have given her some credibility with the North. Everybody respected Ser Barristan even the northerners that don’t have knights.
Dany kindof forgot about Bart Selmy
Same with how Jon and Sam kindof forgot about maester Aemon
Excellent work, gentlemen. It's nice to see a return to the core lore of ASOIAF as the horror of GoT becomes farther and farther removed. I feel cleansed. Time to turn notifications back on (though I could never quit either of you 😘😂)
Love this Collab !! Awesome work. Thanks to both of you !!
THANK YOU! FINALLY A PR0gram on u tube. THat is very knowledgable about the books.I usually don't ever watch prediction shows.Your team has done a professional job.Please keep up the good work.
I really like your videos, you made me read the books again, now i can't wait for the Winds, thanks!!!
I love you guys working together. Long time Quinn fan and I literally just found LmL last week. I will definitely be keeping up with these videos all month.
LOVED this video. You guys make the best content together 💯
These are amazing! Thank you guys. These videos really help set the table for Winds, after it being so long since I finished the published books.
Thank you for this. I just finished re-reading the book series, and this was very refreshing!
The two of you are totally adorkable together. I love it!
Thanks to remind me that I love this books so much! Every since the end of the show I can’t find my want to do anything with ASOIF! But I love the books so much and really want to get back with all things ASOIF!! So thanks for that!! This videos have me back with my love!❤️
Fantastic host pairing! Wonderful ideas! Gorgeous art! Yayayay 🥰👍❤️🌳❤️
Great job, guys. Love the direction, this series of videos, is taking. 🐉
incredible stuff guys. Had a blunt, this episode lit it. Excited for the rest to come!!
The dragons will know Dany's guys. Barristan's plan was that the dragons would recognize Dany's horse
Viserion is beautiful in the books! He's white with golden wings and pale colored 🔥 fire!
Very nice content guys! Looking forward to these 23 days!
Great video! I’m excited to see more!
I'm more anxious to find out what GRRM will do with the Faith of the Seven, since they effectively hold the throne, and we all know what they think of Targaryens.
I see them interacting with fAegon after he replaces Cersei in KL, for sure. If the R'hllorists ever get to Westeros we could really see some shit between those 2 groups of fanatics
@@DavidLightbringer
Yes I think The Faith will rally to fAegon (and so will most of The Reach under Hightower influence.)
Will this bring over the Tyrells too?
This was great. Love the format of the video
Bravo Quinn n Lucifer means lightbringer
Thanks for keeping the content coming
Hey Quinn, I have really enjoyed your videos for a while now, great to see you growing and thanks for introducing me to LML's content too! I may have missed it in the video, but do these 20 videos comprise the whole playlist for your and LML's Winds of Winter Predictions? I've been waiting to basically gorge myself on all of them in one pass. Keep up the great work! Sending love from North Carolina!
Dragonbinder is blown, Viserion is drawn to it, mesmerised by it, then he turns and flies away off to the west. A few hundred pages later and Viserion shows up in Westeros, he lands before Euron Greyjoy and bows to his new master.
Dragons don’t bow and also it’s so weird how you want to take this lady’s dragon
Loved the format boys. Love you both. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
excellent work, guys.
thank you!
Ive listened to the Barristan excerpts dozens of times. I cannot wait to read his ultimate fate. Even if he dies in the battle, it will be a better death than they gave him than that weak ass mess in the show
Edit: I wouldn’t be surprised if Daario has already betrayed Dani. I hope I’m wrong, but he comes off as very sketchy to me. Another example of books>show.
But why? In the books Daario seems to genuinely love Deanerys. Why betray her to join the slavers? What would he gain? Mind you, at the moment he possess NOTHING of value. He is hostage, his sellsword company is commanded by others, whom wouldn't be too happy to see their boss again.
He can give slavers nothing except for some information they propably already have from their allies in the city. Why would they even propose him anything?
Paweł Marszał
That dude has already betrayed ppl. When someone shows you who they are, believe them. And Daario is a traitor, loyal only to himself
I appreciate the Ides of March reference. These are great! Thank you!
Love your videos guys. These are really excellent and helping to keep everything fresh while.... we wait.......
"Viserion and Rhaegal are living their best lives right now"
LML....
😂😂💥🔥❤
(Edit) I also have been wondering:
What if Victarian is the character that gets redemption in our eyes and actually becomes helpful to the "good" cause? George does love redemptions and I believe Victarian could be set up for that. We have been in his head just like Jaime. Maybe. Who knows?
a useful idiot? Could be, at least for one crucial moment perhaps
@@DavidLightbringer yeah. I like that. It's just something thats been going through my head lately. Love your content, by the way. Thank you!😊
@@AmethystEmpressDivineTarot6589
Victarion is such a fun character.
I really hope GRRM has something better in store for him than an early death.
@@alanpennie8013 yep. Same here. ❤
Moqorro did say that he saw glory awaiting him in the flames. So you may be right 🤷🏾♂️
It’s 2024 and TWOW may not be here but at least we share the long night with these two 🥷🏻🥷🏻🥷🏽🥷🏾🥷🏿
Love the collab from 2 favorite CZcamsrs!
I really enjoyed this guys, thanks very much! Looking forward to more of these. =)
well... good news. we have more. lol
This channel is on repeat until TWoW. Thx guys!
“smells like a dragon party” took me right tf out 🤣🤣💀
Oh is so nice to see you guys together... beautiful background
have you ever thought of doing audiobooks or voice acting? Your voice is amazing and I'd love to hear you do more narrations.
Excellent premiere to a highly anticipated series the next 23 videos! Great work gentleman! Keep it up
Thank you so much!
@@QuinnsIdeas No problem brother! Im surprised you replied! Do you have a patron link?
Great video guys!
Awesome! Will be excited to see this. 🤗
Fantastic work. March is going to be awesome
I like the trio, where's GreyArea?
In a different state unfortunately but we'll do something with Gray sometime for sure
Awesome!! Excited for these.
Love the fromsoft style "item description" screens where you have the dialogue excerpts
The Ironborn are badass. Yes they are chauvanistic savages but sailing such a large distance with longships and then making the Yunkai shit themselves. They do have some reedimg qualities.
And it gives Stannis an even more incredible military record having led the only command of a victory *against* the Ironborn - at sea. They're both pretty badass.
Remember there gonna have to fight the volantis fleet that yunkai and sell sword are waiting on
Hey I love you guys and this new series is freaking awesome....
This video is very cool, very swag. I like it!
3rd time im re-watching the whole playlist, 0 regrets
Lol for whatever reason “atop the Hightower of Oldtown” had me weak. Also I’ve read the books 3 times in a span of 2 years and I’m jonesing for winds to come out, keep pumpin out these bad boys to hold me over!
This is awesome. Exactly what I needed
You do narration better than anyone I have ever heard for ASOIAF
great idea you two to do this series on TWOW - we fans are filled with yearning for the book, it feels so close...
..."probably gonna play an instrumental role"
Me: ahaha, I see what you did there
I absolutely love this!
After just finishing doing a Feast with Dragons readthrough I have to ask: how could anyone think Dany would burn King’s Landing? Her Mereen storyline is logical and compassionate to a fault.
I absolutely love the reference to thr 1986 animated move the Transformers.... When I was 5 years old I'd rent it every weekend from our local video store (I'm 35 years old).... That and the animated movie "Wizards" by Ralph Bakshi
Love listening to these guys share their thoughts on it all.
Great job man
Thanks guys, loved the discussion. Looking forward to hearing more. P.S. Get some sleep LML! =)
ha we had been staying up all hours all week. We got a lot done though! And I always look kinda tired, because I smoke cannabis pretty much round the clock. Half the time I'm wearing fun shades because of that more than anything else, lol
Very excited to hear more about Moqoro he's definitely a wild card. Who knows how ancient he actually is!!
I really hope you 2 do many more of these.
I really enjoyed this conversation.
thanks Kraken Tacos!
22 more coming!
Great work boys!
I haven’t come across anyone who has realized Danny’s campaign is playing out similar to the basic steps of the start of the Valyrian empire. Fighting 5 wars with the empire of Ghis. By the time Danny finishes in slavers bay it looks as if she will fight 5 battles/ wars.
1. Astapor
2. Yunkai
3. Taking Meereen
4. The siege of Meereen by Yunkai and allies (New Ghis, Tolos, Sellswords)
5. After her return, the Volantene fleet
Yay love the two of you in one place how cool! Do the violence!-boogie woogie woogie !🎶 😂
Daario, Butcher King
Dragon party! Tyrion will have to come up to speed with the language and culture in Meereen. But that shouldn't be hard for someone as clever as he is.
A Dance With Dragons became my second favourite book in the series thanks to Victarion and he became my favourite charter of that book his chapters where a great new perspective and his story was phenomenal in my opinion and I was heartbroken when he was cut out of the show and the made that bastardised mash up of Euron and Victarion.
Tyrion probably does have the skills to solve Dany's problems in Meereen... but beyond proving his value and loyalty, why would he want to do that? It would arguably be more in his interest to do the opposite -- make it seem utterly hopeless for her to hold the city, at the same time as he reveals to her that Aegon has gone to Westeros.
From a narrative perspective, Dany is already out of Meereen, probably headed to Vaes Dothrak, and presumably due to visit Volantis, Pentos and possibly Braavos on her way to Westeros. I really don't see the next book devoting any time to her re-establishing herself in Meereen only to promptly leave. I imagine Tyrion would encourage her to set up a locally respected puppet ruler who can be trusted to keep slavery illegal in her absence.
loved both episodes ❤
Quinn that intro is fire, I am obsessed!!!
*Me singing about the WoW* "I want you! I want you so baaaad. I want youuuuu. I want you so baaad, it's driving me mad, it's driving me mad"
On a side note, I know it's taboo to point it out, but y'all are so freakin' baked in this video. It's awesome, it takes serious talent to be on camera while you're *that* freakin' spaced. I don't even smoke anymore, but it's awesome.
I just want Quinn to read books to me. 😂 too good
About Dragonbinder, I remember Preston Jacobs made a video about it and he thought it was actually a slave horn. I dunno. Just a thought.
Omg where is this Book!!!! I forgot how much I was anticipating the book I haven’t watched an asoiaf video in a while. I forgot that I was an addict. I’m have to watch all your video since the last one I’ve seem... also you guys are good together
Hey, Quinn and LmL. Love the series. Is there gonna be an episode about the Vale? What Sansa and Littlefinger are gonna be up to?
Winds of Winter is all high fantasy. All up for it.
I think one of the biggest factors in the battle is going to be Drogon. Hopefully Dany will return mounted from the Dothraki Sea
I can see Victarion and Tyrion bonding with each other. Oh, we killed our former lover/spouse
Coming back to these videos realizing my life hasnt changed too much since March, wonder why
I’m binging these videos while I’m stuck inside since school is canceled