Is the new Milwaukee M18 track saw better than Makita 36v track saw?

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  • čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
  • Taking a quick look at the cutting power and key features of the Milwaukee and Makita brushless track saws. Also how the Wen tracks work with both.

Komentáře • 115

  • @thomasnn
    @thomasnn Před rokem +10

    Honestly the Milwaukee sounded like it was gonna call it a day 😢

  • @erbp9136
    @erbp9136 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for the WEN track tip! Very informative video. Keep up the great work!

  • @hpwray
    @hpwray Před rokem +3

    Another great video! You are really through and clear on your comparison. I don't know if you are a hobbyest. I can see you have a great setup and some good tools. I have a feeling your woodworking projects come out professional and precise. Keep up the videos. !

  • @mikee9623
    @mikee9623 Před rokem

    Thanks for the review! Wondered about the wen track and you proved it works on the Milwaukee for beveling. thx again

  • @mannyfresh8504
    @mannyfresh8504 Před rokem +1

    Subscribed, bruh! 👊🏾 good vid. Got my track-saw a day ago. Can’t wait to get a project going.

  • @woody1320
    @woody1320 Před rokem +1

    Thanks so much for doing this. Mostly have Milwaukee tools but bought a corded Makita track saw a few years back and really like it. Just a hobbyist so doubt I'll buy another but these tracks are so crazy expensive. I hadn't seen anyone use Wen tracks before so may look at buy a short track. Very nice shop setup too!!!

    • @dalesworld1308
      @dalesworld1308 Před rokem

      I have the Makita corded too and it's all I'll never need. But pulling that cord over your shoulder on a long cut is a pain.

  • @kjc10
    @kjc10 Před rokem +4

    Great video! Thanks for showing the Wen tracks as well - was really hoping not to pay a premium for the milwaukee tracks!
    1 suggestion for the garage-only hobbiest, you can find central vac units with long hoses that have the power switch on the nozzle itself. Rockler sells a little expandable hose that fits on those saw ports nicely. I have a big boom arm I made from a gate hinge and plywood and swing it off the wall over my workbench that has a power cord and vac hose. After the stock and saw is set up, i swing it out and make the cut then swing it back.
    Thanks again for video!

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +1

      Great suggestion. A boom arm is something I also plan to do in the future.

  • @chrishartman6700
    @chrishartman6700 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video, hits all the necessary points

  • @MyGrowthRings
    @MyGrowthRings Před rokem +1

    Nice review. Thank you for sharing, Scott.

  • @geoffwood2712
    @geoffwood2712 Před rokem +3

    Thanks much - appreciate you providing this for us. I don't have either battery platform yet, but riving knife makes a big difference to me (lots of western hemlock!!) Based on your and other reviews I'll be going Milwuakee where I was leaning towards Makita corded before (which is a pain because we're off-grid.)

    • @5084204
      @5084204 Před rokem +2

      Both saws use thin kerf blades. Last month I cut about 200 metres of 52mm thick oak boards and never felt the need for a riving knife. There is one more thing: you live off the grid: what do you think - which battery pack will last you for longer? Makita with two batteries, or Milwaukee with one?

    • @jeffstanley4593
      @jeffstanley4593 Před rokem +1

      So how are you going to charge the batteries since you are off grid?

    • @geoffwood2712
      @geoffwood2712 Před rokem

      @@jeffstanley4593 Batteries can be charged whenever we have excess PV, most daytimes. I typically do my construction work evenings/early morning when there's no solar PV, so plug-ins draw from our household battery storage then, whereas battery tools act as additional "almost free" storage. Will be no issue once full house is built, but a pain with our small 2kW cabin system currently.

  • @FelicityJanette
    @FelicityJanette Před měsícem

    Great vid. I've been looking for a good comparison and I love that you didn't waste some good walnut too. 😀

  • @noelguerrero3018
    @noelguerrero3018 Před 11 měsíci

    Great value. Nice cut

  • @kendallwithey1595
    @kendallwithey1595 Před rokem

    Great comparison... Thank you for the video.

  • @tableshaper4076
    @tableshaper4076 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for the info, very helpful.

  • @joeburnsideSr
    @joeburnsideSr Před rokem

    Thanks for the review

  • @stevenfoust3782
    @stevenfoust3782 Před rokem +3

    Been using the 40v makita after watching many videos that actually demonstrated that it was equal in most ways to the festool and superior in other ways especially price

  • @TheRealLikeButton
    @TheRealLikeButton Před rokem +1

    This is the exact review I was looking for. And at first, I could swear I was watching a tool review done by the one and only Jerry Rice. 😂 Who would've thunk Jerry was a woodworker?

  • @Vintagebleu
    @Vintagebleu Před rokem +3

    From what I can tell you are the only person in the world that has actually talked about using this saw with the wen tracks. I've been digging through reviews everywhere. Apparently its anti tilt is not really compatible with most other tracks. I'm giving them a try to see if I can build an inexpensive track setup for field work.

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +1

      Absolutely give them a try. For the price and quality they are hard to beat.

    • @jeffshackleford3152
      @jeffshackleford3152 Před rokem

      Depends on what you do.
      If you do a lot of mitering, then pay the extra money.
      If you are ripping a lot of the same dimension, then it shouldn't really matter.
      I have done mostly high end residential trim and cabinets, so I have the Makita setup, it definitely works and works well for what I need it for.

  • @leroymellix5647
    @leroymellix5647 Před rokem

    Thanks for the demonstration I found your content direct and very clear. I liked your input on your track purchase and selection. Considering Markita and Milwaukee what are the limits of this type of saw compared to any other circular saw. Please weigh in on the debate track saws compared to table saws? The fact that a table saw cuts 3” deep + or -. Track saws aren’t expected to cut one pass dados. And In a garage shop where space is at a premium, What is the biggest work area forbidden by the use of a track saw? (I noticed you have 2 track saws and a table saw)

  • @UncleIvan1
    @UncleIvan1 Před rokem +1

    Are you planning on posting more videos? I really enjoyed the video. Makita fan myself, but do like and own Milwaukee tools ( mostly m12)

  • @ThekiBoran
    @ThekiBoran Před rokem +1

    For anyone in the market for guide rails, and if you’re also looking at parallel guides, you should consider Festool tracks and TSO parallel guides. The tso quick release adapters for their parallel guides only work with Festool tracks.

    • @branchan00
      @branchan00 Před rokem +2

      Works on Milwaukee tracks too

  • @rodpotts2666
    @rodpotts2666 Před rokem +1

    good video, thanks for sharing.

  • @robwaz1547
    @robwaz1547 Před rokem

    Nice review thanks

  • @johnridley1038
    @johnridley1038 Před rokem +2

    I'd be interested in seeing how much work you can do on battery set, The milwalki did sound laboured when you were cutting, which is a sure sign that the battery life will be loads less,

  • @nathangardner772
    @nathangardner772 Před rokem

    Got the tsc55 and then a few months later they released the tsc55k 🙄but it’s a great saw. Have many other festool tools, however have even more makita tools. I’d recommend the 40volt xgt stuff. You seem like a dude that does his research and I dig that. Give a look at 40v xgt if whatever you’re looking at next is made in that format. It won’t disappoint

  • @dennisgarcia1183
    @dennisgarcia1183 Před rokem

    Good work 👍

  • @tweed-clay-shooter6358
    @tweed-clay-shooter6358 Před 4 měsíci

    thanks for doing this clip, all i wanted to know was the weight of the tool. keep up the good work

  • @UknowWhoWeR
    @UknowWhoWeR Před rokem +1

    Great video brother keep them coming!

  • @steffendetrick
    @steffendetrick Před rokem +8

    Pretty nice Set up for a hobbyist. You know you’re losing a noticeable amount of power by using the smaller 5 amp hour 18 650 cell battery as opposed to the 6.0 21 700 cell high output battery. Actually a really good review I’ve seen people use the power tech tracks never the wen tracks!

    • @jamievanacker2506
      @jamievanacker2506 Před rokem +3

      I also noticed the XC (looks like 5.0) Battery being used instead of the high output 6.0 that would come with the saw if it was purchased as a kit. I’d be curious to see if the power was more comparable to the Mikita if a 6.0 or 8.0 High output battery was used instead.

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +14

      Great catch. I have a high output battery 8.0 battery now and will do a follow-up to show the difference. Stay tuned.

    • @steffendetrick
      @steffendetrick Před rokem +4

      @@jamievanacker2506 I have the saw and all the different battery sizes there is a noticeable improvement with a high output battery.

    • @steffendetrick
      @steffendetrick Před rokem +3

      @@alphawoodwerks And believe it or not the 6.0 high output actually produces a little more power than the 8.0 the eight has more capacity or better Run time I’ll post a link that will better explain this.

    • @steffendetrick
      @steffendetrick Před rokem

      @@alphawoodwerks czcams.com/video/ky5YRjz9lvc/video.html

  • @koogle612
    @koogle612 Před rokem +1

    I have the makita cordless & the corded. Havent tried milwaukee but a coworker let me try their milwaukee battery impact driver & I was very surprised to find it felt a lot more powerful driving big screws compared to my latest makita. Milwaukee makes good tools - got their hole hawg, sawzall, drywall screw gun & a few others - zero complaints in fact I have just about everything makita makes & the impact (cordless) could use a little more durability in its design maybe hard plastic instead of rubber on its body since about 1/2 of it started coming off as it got broken in with regular daily use. Thats just about the only complaint I have though.

    • @SkilledLabor
      @SkilledLabor Před rokem +1

      That makita will last longer than the milwaukee regardless of power. But they sure do pack a punch

  • @Chrissers2010
    @Chrissers2010 Před rokem

    Thanks for the video. I have the Makita and thinking of getting the Milwaukee since all my other tools are Milwaukee. As a helpful critique, work on your audio. I had to change the volume several times during the video because at times, it was way too loud and others I could barely hear you.

  • @kjc10
    @kjc10 Před rokem

    @4:53 Upon closer inspection of the Wen tracks in the video still.., is there any side to side wiggle room on the Milwaukee saw? Could be the camera angle, but it look like there is 1mm gap on the left hand side of the slot and the saw.. Someone showed the Milwaukee saw on the Makita tracks toppling over.. because the angled bit didn't extend far enough..

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +2

      There’s no side to side movement. You can adjust how tight the saw glides on the rails with 2 nobs on the base plate. Not sure about Makita tracks but the Wen tracks fit the saw like a glove.

  • @knottymatt
    @knottymatt Před rokem

    Does the Milwaukee have toe adjustment like the Makita?

  • @mgangelcruz
    @mgangelcruz Před rokem

    Hi nice video. Question what is in the box when you buy just the bare tool instead the kit?
    Thanks

    • @tenflat2009
      @tenflat2009 Před rokem +1

      I've looked into both, the bare tool comes with the saw, 40 tooth blade, anti chip "plug" and the dust bag. Kit also comes in the packout xl with a 6.0HO battery and rapid charger and of course the inclusions of the tool only.

  • @angelodecaro19
    @angelodecaro19 Před rokem +1

    Quick tip to avoid the messy cuts with the circular saw you mentioned - if you loosen the depth adjustment, leave the base plate on your material where you want it to be so you’re only plunging the blade, not the entire saw

  • @kaden7298
    @kaden7298 Před 2 měsíci

    If you use the high output on Milwaukee you will see a huge difference in performance. Its even more power then the Makita. I know because I own both. He was using the regular M18 on Milwaukee

  • @pf5658
    @pf5658 Před rokem

    Straight and to the point. My first track saw was a Festool corded which I still have but then I bought a Makita cordless because Milwaukee was taking forever to release one even though I already have a ton of Milwaukee tools. Btw how is the quality of that Wen track you have? I need longer tracks but I just refuse to spend that much money right now for Festool or Makita tracks right now.

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +3

      The quality of the Wen tracks are equivalent to the Makita tracks. You won’t be disappointed.

    • @pf5658
      @pf5658 Před rokem

      @@alphawoodwerks Good to know. I appreciate your quick reply. Thank you! Unfortunately I own only Festool tracks so I’ll take a chance. Never seen a Makita track in person so I’m trusting your opinion.

  • @scottss213
    @scottss213 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for the great video. Do you like the wen track? I am looking at the milwaukee personally although I do have the makita 18v drill impact combo but lacking the riving knife is holding me back

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před 5 měsíci

      I have had no issues with the Wen track and have completed multiple projects with it.

    • @scottss213
      @scottss213 Před 5 měsíci

      thanks I wasn't sure it was that good

  • @countryflyer4536
    @countryflyer4536 Před rokem

    The extra weight helps keep the track from moving as well as keeps the saw more stable...in my opinion..

  • @ron1martens
    @ron1martens Před rokem

    I nearly jumped out of my chair. Your volume went down then it went up. I don't think its anything you did that caused this glitch. My question is which blades did you use for your ripping? The standard blades? Also for the Milwaukee it is recommended the high output 6 amp hour battery be used with the machine. You possibly will get more power with the battery. So I guess if not already look into the new battery. I have seen other reviews which one person stated the milwaukee has more power than the 36 festool. Although it may have been the earlier festool with the wider kerf blade 2.2mm. I bought the festool plunge saw which has the 1.8 mm kerf blade. Great video. You have a nice set up. I do a lot of my work half outdoors. I have covers although not a real shed like you have. The Milwaukee is an impressive tool. I just invested in the 40 volt range makita so when more tools come I will consider. The 40 volt makita is even more powerful than the 2/18 makita plunge saw. Also notably more powerful than the milwaukee with the designated 6 amp hour high energy output battery. So assuming you didn't buy the high output battery. Perhaps in time if you ever consider buying a new battery, rn some comparison and see if there is any notable difference.

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +1

      My apologies for the audio. I did a second video on the channel with the high output battery. I am currently using the stock blade that came with the saw.

    • @ron1martens
      @ron1martens Před rokem

      @@alphawoodwerks Thanks for the reply. I recently bought a festool blade I think 32 tooth. It rips timber like butter. I cut some Jarrah which is an west Australian hardwood. I don't know what to compare it with perhaps Walnut. I'm not familiar with Walnut. Western Australia's hardest wood is Wandoo. Tasmanian oak is also a nice hardwood.

  • @dustinclark8946
    @dustinclark8946 Před rokem +2

    I just bought the 40V, I refuse to give up on DeWalt 20V max for everything else. I want to know how Milwaukee match the Makita with half the voltage.

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +1

      Understandable. I have mostly Dewalt as well but have some Milwaukee and Makita tools also.

    • @tenflat2009
      @tenflat2009 Před rokem

      Motor power, or torque, is not only a function of volts. It's volts and amps. Twice the voltage means you need half the amps. In all honesty I would expect that the Makita would make more cuts or run time per charge since it has a bigger "fuel tank" but a tool with half the voltage could still out perform it if it was given enough amps. I'll be buying the Milwaukee one since my whole tool collection is red already...

    • @baseballdude8491
      @baseballdude8491 Před rokem +1

      More AMPs though usually = more heat which in turn can = shorter life etc
      I have noticed differences in the Makita 40 V and Metabo HPT' 36V tools compared to their (almost) twin 18V tools and the 36V's tend to run cooler for longer run time

    • @tenflat2009
      @tenflat2009 Před rokem +1

      @@baseballdude8491 generally yes. If you use more amps from a smaller supply then absolutely heat is an issue. However drawing high amps from a larger supply doesn't create as much heat. Essentially it boils down to battery draw percentage.... If that makes sense. 25A draw from a 3ah battery is a big draw, inversely a 25A draw from a 12ah battery is a much "lighter" load.

  • @dustinclark8946
    @dustinclark8946 Před rokem +5

    is it just me but was the Milwaukee was laboring, sounded like it.

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +2

      I will do another short video with the high output Milwaukee battery versus standard XC battery I used. I believe the additional power will make a difference. The kit version comes with the HO battery.

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +3

      Did a side by side comparison of the High Output vs the Standard battery.
      czcams.com/video/OTghHvL7Wko/video.html

    • @tenflat2009
      @tenflat2009 Před rokem +2

      I agree it did sound like it struggled. If you notice though, he's running this saw on a 5.0 battery. These are designed to run best with the 21700 cell batteries, ie 12.0HD, 8.0HO, 6.0HO or even (for a very short time no doubt) the CP3.0

  • @jeffstanley4593
    @jeffstanley4593 Před rokem

    I have the Festool TS 75 and need it like a hole in the head. Having said that, it is a fine saw. In conjunction with the splinter guard on the track and the rail, you can get a nearly finished edge. You do not have any splinters even on plywood. The edge is sharp and crisp and smooth. The saw is heavy so I had thoughts of the TS 75 little brother the TS 55. Now I see a potential substitute in the Milwaukee. The Milwaukee bogged a lot compared to the Makita but it had half as much power. Really though, you were giving it a hard test. One of my biggest concerns is would the Milwaukee cut exactly the same as the Festool on a Festool track? You probably don't know and neither do I. You see, if there was any difference in how far from the aluminum of the rail the Milwaukee cut, the edge would have or most likely have splinters. FYI, the Festool will use Powertec rails and I saw that the Milwaukee will too.

  • @flex_nyc9885
    @flex_nyc9885 Před rokem

    As a DIYer that does wood working from time to time I was looking for a track saw recently. All of my power tools for work are Milwaukee M18 and M12. Idk if I should get the kreg track saw or for another $100 the Milwaukee

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +3

      I would stick with Milwaukee over the Kreg TrackSaw.

  • @MyJessmatt
    @MyJessmatt Před rokem +2

    Great video but could you please get you audio levels closer to the same level as when headphones ether I can hardly hear you or you a very loud but love the content

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem

      Appreciate the feedback. Will work on that for future videos. Thanks

  • @chrise202
    @chrise202 Před 13 dny

    Hi, please help. Are the guide rails cross-compatible ?

  • @Jibe4evermd
    @Jibe4evermd Před rokem

    Are the track rails compatible with Woodpeckers track square and parallel guides?

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem

      I do not have the Woodpecker track square. However, based on Woodpeckers website description of compatibility with multiple track brands it should work.

    • @dustinclark8946
      @dustinclark8946 Před rokem

      @@alphawoodwerks you likely need a Makita or Festool track for that

    • @jeffstanley4593
      @jeffstanley4593 Před rokem

      TSO parallel guides are super, never used Woodpeckers. Bents Woodshop or Wordshop did a comparison of the two and he liked TSO better. IF you have Festool track you can buy quick attach guides, I don't know what TSO calls them but the guides go on and off the tracks really fast. ONLY for Festool track though.

  • @user-ev5ks7ee7w
    @user-ev5ks7ee7w Před 4 měsíci

    I’ve had too buy three sets of wen tracks bottom keeps losing grip I make cabinets for living use about four hours a day have festool now already made my money back

  • @jasonwiltjer9
    @jasonwiltjer9 Před rokem +1

    I'm curious if that power difference is made up of you use a HO battery.

    • @baseballdude8491
      @baseballdude8491 Před rokem

      Probably not as 36V give the motors a big advantage
      Same goes true for my Milwaukee rear handle vs the Makita 2x36 and 40V XGT and Metabo HPT' 36V

    • @casper3380
      @casper3380 Před 11 měsíci

      The FUEL system does a lot better with he High output batteries.

  • @krispyasfk2567
    @krispyasfk2567 Před rokem +1

    There's a slight edge in power to the Marita because you're not using the high output M18 batteries dawg.

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem

      You’re correct. There is a follow-up video on the channel comparing the Standard vs. the HO battery.

  • @nelson7940
    @nelson7940 Před rokem +1

    why are all the saws left handed?

    • @baseballdude8491
      @baseballdude8491 Před rokem +2

      Better sight and control for right handed operators
      Most framing saws/rear handles are left side blades
      There are some applications that right side blades work well but for ripping and framing the left side is superior

  • @nickcross2684
    @nickcross2684 Před rokem

    Try the festool

  • @Matt-my7pz
    @Matt-my7pz Před 7 měsíci +1

    Well dome man, there us a lot of useless tool reveiws outv there saying redundant or not required info

  • @Good-Citizen
    @Good-Citizen Před rokem

    Love the way this guy gave a review. I also appreciate the Wen track. I never knew.

  • @powderdescent
    @powderdescent Před 11 měsíci

    Didn’t catch why you thought you needed an upgrade other than the one battery (“it’s lighter”) reasoning. Seems like an odd choice to upgrade unless there were clear deficiencies in the Makita. And if so, wish I caught where you highlighted those.
    Weight seems like an odd single reason. This isn’t a tool you’re holding all day (like a framing nailer, for example)

  • @countryflyer4536
    @countryflyer4536 Před rokem

    Slightly more power????

  • @ThekiBoran
    @ThekiBoran Před rokem

    Check your sound. As I approach decrepitude my hearing becomes crappier and crappier.

  • @rabbittroll4247
    @rabbittroll4247 Před rokem

    But now you've spent more than the festool

    • @alphawoodwerks
      @alphawoodwerks  Před rokem +2

      Nope. Sold the Makita only have the Milwaukee now.

  • @maizhou4640
    @maizhou4640 Před rokem +1

    Milwaukee is no match for the xgt makita, you can hear the saw lag with the Milwaukee, really unfair test when the makiota comes with a way superior blade

    • @briangraver1973
      @briangraver1973 Před rokem

      I have the Milwaukee, Use their 6.0 HO battery it cuts thru like butter

  • @wkunique
    @wkunique Před rokem +1

    barely hear anything

  • @izoyt
    @izoyt Před rokem

    your audio gain is out of wack.

  • @yakkytory8236
    @yakkytory8236 Před rokem

    You need to learn how to manage the microphones when you make your videos!

  • @kestutisbagusauskas8323
    @kestutisbagusauskas8323 Před rokem +3

    Fix your audio!!!

    • @baseballdude8491
      @baseballdude8491 Před rokem +1

      Fix your ears

    • @kestutisbagusauskas8323
      @kestutisbagusauskas8323 Před rokem +1

      @@baseballdude8491Don´t try to be smart, listen to the video !!!

    • @baseballdude8491
      @baseballdude8491 Před rokem +1

      @@kestutisbagusauskas8323 naw it's fine I can hear all he's bringing
      Don't put 3 exclamation points, it's 🧌 y

  • @loucifer4205
    @loucifer4205 Před rokem

    The dewalt is way more powerful it's action is more natural and it's track you can go both ways with it's a American tool unlike Milwaukee who is owned by 🇨🇳 our mortal enemy

  • @UncleIvan1
    @UncleIvan1 Před rokem +5

    milwaukee sounds annoying, just like most of their tools

    • @tenflat2009
      @tenflat2009 Před rokem +4

      Sounds like a hardcore Yellow guy... That's ok it takes all kinds to make the world go round.

  • @roberta.collins3963
    @roberta.collins3963 Před rokem

    Good review. I also have the Milwaukee platform so I'll probably buy milwaukee's track saw as well. You would definitely get more power out of the Milwaukee by using a 6 amphour 🎉or 9 ampower battery.