HOW TO | DO A DOUBLE VALLEY (part 1)

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  • čas přidán 31. 10. 2020
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Komentáře • 213

  • @DARK24-7
    @DARK24-7 Před 3 lety +10

    After 32 years in construction-i feel the pain of thinkin' i was doin something right-then the realization it's f'd...It sucks-and you feel like a p.o.s.Keep yer head up Boycub-take a positive from this negative.

  • @borys444
    @borys444 Před 3 lety +2

    Gave u a like cause I’m happy to c boy cub back and it’s always good to support someone like urself. Peace brother!!!

  • @neilbhagwandeen4670
    @neilbhagwandeen4670 Před 2 lety +2

    Hi all. Love these videos! I am from a country where metal roofing sheets are popular. Watching you guys shingle roofs, I must say it's a skill and an art. Seeing you tackle that valley with shingles... damn I would not have known what to do. I mean I think roofers in my country take that for granted as with metal roof you install your valley flashings lay your roof sheets and call it a day.

  • @Warren3carpentry
    @Warren3carpentry Před 3 lety

    Good point! Nice how to vid!

  • @kneebull7653
    @kneebull7653 Před 3 lety +1

    I wish I worked with you! You seem like an awesome teacher/coworker. Anyhow at 32 years I’m thinkin to leave my contractor company and start my own soon. You inspire me to want to build my own company. Thanks for all your videos

  • @jpeknowbody3649
    @jpeknowbody3649 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This is 50/50 on the right way, unusual circumstances for sure.During a major rain storm I think Id rather have it the way baby cub did it . But then again the steeper slope will shed faster but less flow. I guess you called it right once you take in the snow and ice situation.Good job

  • @Mega12
    @Mega12 Před 3 lety +6

    Damn I really thought you got mad af at him even I got shooked 😂 good video tho

  • @jfarinacci0329
    @jfarinacci0329 Před 3 lety

    good teaching. thank you.

  • @zeliop6024
    @zeliop6024 Před 10 měsíci

    This was a great video. I wasnt even working on any roofing or shingles, but i was curious on how those valleys were all shingled up together.. Thanks for some good laughs as well.

  • @aaronyoung75
    @aaronyoung75 Před 3 lety

    You got the like and subscribe on this one because i actually did this today, and now have to tear off and re-do... didnt see this video untill it was too late.

  • @incognitonunyabuisness5192

    Really good educational video, you don’t see a lot of these dbl valleys.

  • @hondaman3317
    @hondaman3317 Před 3 lety +2

    Always cut the steeper pitch. Fly the smaller pitch by. Gravity is easy to watch work, roofing is about gravity. Seeing you fix it speaks volumes. Most don’t..... but then I wouldn’t have a job😂

  • @papichulo9499
    @papichulo9499 Před 3 lety

    Well done 👍🏼 you did the right thing

  • @yatagrastu_fwo1147
    @yatagrastu_fwo1147 Před 3 lety

    I love your blogs

  • @michaelfrench7612
    @michaelfrench7612 Před 3 lety

    Learning by doing ! Once you know it then you can show it !! Great job guys, I appreciate you doing what you are doing!!!

  • @stevengrammont44
    @stevengrammont44 Před 3 lety +2

    I like how you put him on a piece that he wasn't comfortable with , but I think you should've told him how you wanted it done and why.

  • @larrycrookshanks9091
    @larrycrookshanks9091 Před 3 lety +6

    You're installing shingles in a pocket in Utah where u get deep snow and ice. Amazing. Why not install a layer of base Self adhered and a layer of cap sheet. Solid sheets beat shingles in low slope area.

    • @JTREJO22
      @JTREJO22 Před 3 lety

      That is exactly what I was going to suggest. We always do SA BASE and Cap. In we are in West Texas. No issues after we got a foot of snow this past month. Can’t say much about the other companies here. Nobody here even tears off felt or installs ice and water.

  • @devinmanns9561
    @devinmanns9561 Před 3 lety +5

    I live in northern Utah we get a lot of snow, i color match tpo membrane and do 3 feet up with it from the edge and tie the shingles in, its a nice detail in area like that were snow and ice will build up

    • @NWIVeteranConstruction
      @NWIVeteranConstruction  Před 3 lety

      damn tpo? thats crazy

    • @Remodeling101
      @Remodeling101 Před 3 lety

      Color match? I thought it only came in white, black, and grey, and I cant see white matching very often.
      Black on red, black on green, black on tan.. lol ..
      Good idea tho.. hard to see those ares anyway. So if you did commercial roofing, using scrap would save some $ if you just went with one run, no seam...

    • @devinmanns9561
      @devinmanns9561 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Remodeling101 there's dark and light shades of each color, tan, brown, red, green, grey, white, I've even done a copper color

    • @devinmanns9561
      @devinmanns9561 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Remodeling101 there's also coated drip metal in different colors that you can weld the membrane to

    • @randyjenkins8743
      @randyjenkins8743 Před 3 lety +1

      Tpo is trash

  • @TestElepine
    @TestElepine Před 3 lety

    Oh man! when buddy asked for a line on his rack and then started laughing about how it could be added in as a video oufff.... I felt those last 2 nails go in before the cut

  • @AlbertoLopez-vj5vx
    @AlbertoLopez-vj5vx Před 3 lety

    You are professionally my respect for you because you took bad to the others roofer

  • @Theempiresf49
    @Theempiresf49 Před 3 lety +12

    I'm just wondering how he was able to do that whole side without anybody seeing it and correcting him

  • @GrazingBull
    @GrazingBull Před 3 lety +14

    When ya gonna challenge BigTime?!

    • @andrewreid3004
      @andrewreid3004 Před 3 lety

      He doesn't have what it takes.

    • @josephguilfoyle9356
      @josephguilfoyle9356 Před 3 lety

      BIGTIME 💪🤙 ole vet has no shot. And vet you are one of those Roofers that you mights well do the roof yourself 🤣he did such a good job!! ......I ripped it up. Douche.

  • @nitro1380
    @nitro1380 Před 3 lety +1

    This is why w valleys are the best and its easy for rookies to learn!

  • @ScottieBMan
    @ScottieBMan Před rokem

    That’s the way you do it! Nice fix

  • @pedrogomez9303
    @pedrogomez9303 Před 3 lety +1

    You right👏👏

  • @jessicacallahan9711
    @jessicacallahan9711 Před 3 lety +2

    So glad you said you were not serious , almost didn’t finish watching cause felt really bad for boycub. Says a lot about a contractor to eat a few dollars to make something right. 👍💕

    • @UndisputedRoofer
      @UndisputedRoofer Před 3 lety

      It's wrong boycub did it right dont worrie about matching do it right.

  • @jamessteele7322
    @jamessteele7322 Před rokem

    LOVE MAN YOUR A LOT OF HELP

  • @stixprogaming2718
    @stixprogaming2718 Před 3 lety +5

    Next time you do those, ice and shield everything, in that area, instead of a row of paper on those dormers I would of ice and shielded it, lots of snow sits there, also I'd keep those nails with the plastic thing on them away 6 too 8 inches, when I shingle these i build it up pyramid style, when you step up in the middle and add on too both side, glad too see it is changed well you had the chance and before it leaked, it could of caused big headaches down the road, lots of people would of said fuck it, looks good from my house. Roof on

    • @oscarcarreon3221
      @oscarcarreon3221 Před 3 lety

      Can’t see that shit from my house, órale keep nailing.

  • @chrislogue5744
    @chrislogue5744 Před 3 lety

    Great explanation of how water sheds😂😜😜👌

  • @avalianteffort40
    @avalianteffort40 Před 2 lety

    How do you align your stagger between the bottom of the valley and the top on the 4/12 pitch? The top is already shingled, so how do you know how much to offset on the bottom to get the stagger to work out?

    • @woodpeckerroofing93
      @woodpeckerroofing93 Před rokem

      Tape measure if you're smart, a bunch of scraps of shingles if you're not. Nail the tuck afterward, not naming any names JB. LMAO, inside private now public joke, he won't see.
      Steeper the better;)

  • @GrazingBull
    @GrazingBull Před 3 lety

    Nice ya hireD Boy Cub back!

  • @ronaldoleksy8264
    @ronaldoleksy8264 Před 3 lety

    Hey so what are your thoughts on running say like 3 rows up in a weaved pattern at the overhang then cut the valley in after the first 3 rows

    • @NWIVeteranConstruction
      @NWIVeteranConstruction  Před 3 lety +1

      should work just fine here! but on a normal valley i wouldn't recommend it. it would look weird. valleys look best when the cute line comes all the way down to the first shingle.

    • @ronaldoleksy8264
      @ronaldoleksy8264 Před 3 lety

      @@NWIVeteranConstruction Thanks on the feedback

  • @chrispauchay9037
    @chrispauchay9037 Před 3 lety

    Lmao ...great video!

  • @bradrob2863
    @bradrob2863 Před rokem

    I have never seen someone put starter on the sides but hey I’ve only been roofing for a year love ur videos ❤ where r u located if I can ask I don’t think I’m very far from u

  • @chet174able
    @chet174able Před 3 lety +1

    I've seen a lot of valleys done backwards but they didn't leak don't recommend but it worked don't know how

  • @THETOPGLOCK
    @THETOPGLOCK Před 3 lety

    Hey are you guys up in lower Michigan?

  • @Ermagawd
    @Ermagawd Před 3 lety

    Just had the same issue at my job with a guy who can’t be told he did something wrong. I just started ripping it off and re did it

  • @rodsr2749
    @rodsr2749 Před 6 měsíci

    ❤❤

  • @Faruk651
    @Faruk651 Před 3 lety

    Wouldn't it be nice if the shingle manufacturers offered a plus size as well. Most are around 40" long, maybe like a 48" lengths to use in these situations.

  • @MikeHenry3280
    @MikeHenry3280 Před 3 lety

    I knwo u all dont really use it often.. but in this case wouldnt it be safer to use valley metal. ? that way it really dont matter which way u do it... ? idk just my thought.. maybe im use to using vally metal some do some dont... good stuff tho

  • @mattb4885
    @mattb4885 Před 3 lety +4

    In boycubs defense. I would’ve laid the roof the way he did.. though the dormers (appear) to be steeper than the main roof, sq footage is significantly less, and that spot between is going to bottleneck either way with snow.. my train of thought but if someone can give me good stats/figures to go off of I’ll forfeit haha.

    • @UndisputedRoofer
      @UndisputedRoofer Před 2 lety +1

      Boy cub did it right.

    • @mattb4885
      @mattb4885 Před 2 lety

      And when I cali cut valleys, I always run a secondary bead of tar underneath the course of shingles that I lay parallel to the valley so even if that course doesn't seal 100%, I have a second backup against the moisture. Nowhere near as experienced as many of you guys but I've never been called back to any roof that I've laid or help lay.

    • @mattb4885
      @mattb4885 Před 2 lety

      @@UndisputedRoofer I thought so, but I'm not a roofer. Have laid many shingles but that's not my forte.

    • @hankwells8723
      @hankwells8723 Před rokem

      Same

    • @hankwells8723
      @hankwells8723 Před rokem

      Dude just did it backwards 😂

  • @raybrensike42
    @raybrensike42 Před 2 lety +1

    So will a marble be running faster at 20' going down a 4/12, than it would be going at 6' down a 6/12? I'm thinking maybe Boycub got it right. Or, if you were in a bicycle race, do you think that you could get going faster down a 6/12 that was 6' long than someone else who was coasting down a 4/12 for 20 feet? I'll bet kids at a skateboard park would be good at answering something like this.
    Or, if you were on a hill that was steep, but it was only 3' high, and someone else was on a hill that was 6' high, and those hills were on a perfectly flat valley, and you both let balls roll down at the same time, which ball would go the furthest? Would it even depend on the slope? Would slope even matter? One would get to the flat valley quicker, but which ball would go farther before it stopped?

    • @NWIVeteranConstruction
      @NWIVeteranConstruction  Před 2 lety

      It's not always speed or volume. Pitch plays a huge part in how the water will behave at the bottom and snow especially. The snow will melt n freeze multiple times and it will be way easier for it to find its way in opposite of how I did it

  • @vim_usr2753
    @vim_usr2753 Před 3 lety

    This video has convinced me to not shingle my own roof. Sure wouldn't mind learning from a pro though.

  • @steverainwater6803
    @steverainwater6803 Před 2 lety

    I agree with the little cubby cub cub so much more water is fishing off the 4 pitcher then the sixer but what do I know I've only been doin it 30 yrs

  • @mjwhite7824
    @mjwhite7824 Před 3 lety +1

    I definitely would’ve made him tear it up at least lol!! And if I was him I would’ve just torn it up for you/my boss anyway

  • @bobcougar77
    @bobcougar77 Před 3 lety

    That looks like it might be a good candidate to ut I&W as a backup. It just looks like the snow will want to really dam up there. But, what the fuck do i know. looks good from my house.

  • @kylekoverola8654
    @kylekoverola8654 Před 3 lety

    Metal w valley?

  • @dylanmanning7077
    @dylanmanning7077 Před 3 lety

    I saw the tic tok u made on this roof

  • @joemomma2517
    @joemomma2517 Před 3 lety +1

    Get memories of every time there a double valley I get stuck doin all of them..good shit though looks clean

  • @mikegresham9424
    @mikegresham9424 Před 9 měsíci

    What state are you guys in?

  • @Indio3ce
    @Indio3ce Před 3 lety

    We call it a bleeder the shingle that goes in the valley your right flat 1st
    My boss that taught me always said think like water 💧 😉

  • @TorontoMuscle
    @TorontoMuscle Před 10 měsíci

    he did the valley fine dude

  • @ultramegadude93
    @ultramegadude93 Před 3 lety +4

    I very much dislike putting drip edge on these spots lmao

  • @kenwalker7550
    @kenwalker7550 Před 3 lety

    Metal valleys... is it so hard??

  • @gamesforfun3680
    @gamesforfun3680 Před 3 lety

    Boy cubs a gangster😎😎😎

  • @Faruk651
    @Faruk651 Před 3 lety

    Why not build both sides of the valleys with full pieces (stepping) and filling the middle after?

  • @jordannielson306
    @jordannielson306 Před 3 lety

    Craftsman double blade?

  • @rodolfocampos8218
    @rodolfocampos8218 Před 3 lety

    What kind of hose you use?

  • @TN-jh7fk
    @TN-jh7fk Před 3 lety

    How long have you been roofing?

    • @NWIVeteranConstruction
      @NWIVeteranConstruction  Před 3 lety +1

      roughly 8 years. but i had a few breaks and did a lot of other things like siding, soffit, fascia, framing and demo

  • @brownamerican5786
    @brownamerican5786 Před 3 lety

    If that is in an area that gets snow you should not of shingled between those to valleys. Liberty would be a better application and then shingle the the two dormers to it.

  • @ethanmcmaster2994
    @ethanmcmaster2994 Před 3 lety

    I hope you keep the toasty thing going forward lol

  • @Birch_Smiley
    @Birch_Smiley Před 3 lety +4

    a like for Boycub comeback !!

  • @danielbriggs3582
    @danielbriggs3582 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey zach!

  • @ronaldsantos2489
    @ronaldsantos2489 Před 3 lety

    I didn't see you shingling the 22sq you usually do. 😆😆😆

  • @gradywhite9781
    @gradywhite9781 Před 3 lety +1

    How about weaving it all the way up

    • @NWIVeteranConstruction
      @NWIVeteranConstruction  Před 3 lety

      I'm doing that on a different section of this house but no necessary here

    • @MoneyManHolmes
      @MoneyManHolmes Před 3 lety +1

      Only certain brands allow weaving without voiding the warranty.

    • @rileymcintosh4852
      @rileymcintosh4852 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MoneyManHolmes absolutely correct

    • @gradywhite9781
      @gradywhite9781 Před 3 lety

      @@MoneyManHolmes can't say I ever heard that . Weaving it is a better way than a California cut especially in situations like this

    • @randyjenkins8743
      @randyjenkins8743 Před 3 lety

      @@MoneyManHolmes when have you ever used a manufacturer warranty on shingles??

  • @tybutler2006
    @tybutler2006 Před 3 lety

    He did it right gordy

  • @EstebanGonzalez-ph9xp
    @EstebanGonzalez-ph9xp Před 3 lety

    De eria de subir más la teja de el velis

  • @GFRYORK
    @GFRYORK Před 3 lety +3

    Sometimes you really make my head hurt 🤦

  • @llawnmeister1973
    @llawnmeister1973 Před 3 lety +2

    I prefer woven valley’s, but more difficult on two pitches however.

    • @mattb4885
      @mattb4885 Před 3 lety +2

      I think it’s much more difficult to get a good look from a woven valley. And personally would never do one. Yes a “Cali cut” may take more time but the way we do ours is clean and quick.

    • @llawnmeister1973
      @llawnmeister1973 Před 3 lety

      @@mattb4885 It is especially hard to get a good look on woven valleys when the pitches aren’t the same!

  • @ElverGalarga-xe4ss
    @ElverGalarga-xe4ss Před 3 lety +3

    You know what your doing but still don't understand why you dont wear a work pouch

    • @Remodeling101
      @Remodeling101 Před 3 lety +1

      Why lug around a heavy pouch when all your using is a knife?

    • @ElverGalarga-xe4ss
      @ElverGalarga-xe4ss Před 3 lety +1

      @@Remodeling101 what if you need a chalk box some snips tape measure I would just have them laying around all over the roof or in the trailer in my personal opinion that is unorganized key to efficientsy is organization

    • @mattb4885
      @mattb4885 Před 3 lety +1

      Carpenters pants, or if you’re wearing shorts, cargo shorts. A couple of large pockets and your normal pockets are all you need. I carry a square, knife, pencil(s), some fasteners, etc in a regular pair of jeans..

    • @ElverGalarga-xe4ss
      @ElverGalarga-xe4ss Před 3 lety

      @@mattb4885 well you dont know what your doing thats why you would of done the vallys backwards

  • @josemora6931
    @josemora6931 Před 3 lety

    Let me tell you boy cub is a good guy for not talking back of it we’re me getting disrespected I would of disrespected you right back you want some one to do the job right then stay on top of them when they are doing the job not when the fuck up is done with

  • @sbennett616
    @sbennett616 Před 3 lety

    Why didn't you rip up the other sides of those dormers. Pitches would be exact same

    • @NWIVeteranConstruction
      @NWIVeteranConstruction  Před 3 lety +1

      They weren't though. The part I did flattened out to a 4/12, on the other side the pitches were equal

  • @briansamayoa5148
    @briansamayoa5148 Před 3 lety

    Didn't you say he quit before ? Back ?

  • @toddsmith1963
    @toddsmith1963 Před rokem

    Weave it it's the right way.

  • @Remodeling101
    @Remodeling101 Před 3 lety

    Why don't you just pop lines down before you started laying shingles?
    Gaf is like 22 1/4" I think.
    Your low shingles at the bottom will make up the difference.
    Your pretty fast tho.. You can't fuck with me, but your fast. Do you ever just wish you could fire everyone and just have like 10 clones..?

  • @gentrifythis
    @gentrifythis Před 3 lety

    Use metal in valleys. Shingles look like shit in the valley after 10 years. 3 1/4 exposure.

    • @kenwalker7550
      @kenwalker7550 Před 3 lety +1

      Agreed, and in most areas manufacturers don’t cover warranties on closed valleys

  • @shawncummings4653
    @shawncummings4653 Před 7 měsíci

    Who taught backwards Billy to roof? Live and learn I guess.

  • @jeremylakenes6859
    @jeremylakenes6859 Před 2 lety

    Boycub is faithful, treat him well.

  • @Willdoe09
    @Willdoe09 Před 3 lety

    You should of left it the way it was now it might leak because of what you did on minute 13:29

  • @jamesoloughlin1026
    @jamesoloughlin1026 Před 3 lety

    Weave it, betcha can't!

  • @billljones979
    @billljones979 Před 3 lety

    Still waiting on you showing me how to do the valley, you only did half of it is there anther video

  • @mwilson43609
    @mwilson43609 Před 3 lety

    Lower pitch lower peak

  • @billybobjosh
    @billybobjosh Před 3 lety

    all that water for that little gutter

  • @theroofguru807
    @theroofguru807 Před rokem

    it was right the first time no?

    • @NWIVeteranConstruction
      @NWIVeteranConstruction  Před rokem

      nope. probably would've been fine. but not the better way to do it. asking for trouble

  • @mwilson43609
    @mwilson43609 Před 3 lety

    I just got sent to a leak because of a backwards valley

  • @highqualityroofingrepairsa9368

    Its just that part Like 2 bandles removed it and tell him how to do it..
    Be a leader also it was your fault
    If he never did something like that thats your fault not his.
    Also why you did instal single ply or torch or peel and stick in the lower part.

  • @X360KBaller
    @X360KBaller Před 3 lety

    When did boycub come back? Im surprised you took him back after leaving you for more money

  • @jjsroofing860
    @jjsroofing860 Před 3 lety

    Lower pitch has to get done first no matter which side gets more water. I always use a W metal valley. Open valley.

  • @MikeyMacneil88
    @MikeyMacneil88 Před 3 lety

    Because they were sick a small dormer. You should of went boy Cubs way

  • @aarongrabowski5620
    @aarongrabowski5620 Před 3 lety +3

    I hope you did not really send him home

  • @mehowi
    @mehowi Před 10 měsíci

    In places like that you weave the valleys. don't make them cut.

  • @incognitonunyabuisness5192

    Old video or is boy cub back with you?

  • @deanbabowal8979
    @deanbabowal8979 Před 3 lety +1

    You only needed to tear the shingles that were in the valley up could have kept most of the shingles on the small gable roof some shingles and time

  • @Hiddencomment007
    @Hiddencomment007 Před rokem

    boycub not to be confused with manbear

  • @mikelowe8708
    @mikelowe8708 Před 2 lety

    Did you really send dude home

  • @craigfinno551
    @craigfinno551 Před 3 lety

    Boycub aka napoleon dynamite

  • @victorbettencourt6476
    @victorbettencourt6476 Před 3 lety

    You hired a guy who just lied to you that's all don't feel bad pull it up and do it right the small always goes over the large and you should we leave those valleys now you're going to have a little difficulty because the pitch is different on the steeper side so skip your shingles over but keep your corner in the valley to go up one two one two you get an California header in there you're just going to ask for drama in the bottom of that should have had some kind of underlayment that holds water broke the pitch is so low it ain't going to do good on dimensionals they really hold the water slow trust me put some modified or some torch on that low area and then match the color and let your shingle ears dog over it good luck with that one

  • @TheDrill65
    @TheDrill65 Před 2 lety

    Lets start by saying I enjoy your work content, but if you would have talked to me like you did BoyCub we both would've rolled down that roof.

  • @tonykenny4304
    @tonykenny4304 Před rokem

    No safety on job site should be shut down safety first

  • @spikep9299
    @spikep9299 Před 3 lety

    Lace it.