JefferyJ, I want to tell you how much I appreciate your videos. They gave me the confidence to buy a 20W fiber laser to mark tools we make for my business. I was able to get it up and running and make great marks within a few hours. Your videos and test files made that possible. Thank you for taking the time to great and post them, the information is so valuable. Thank you Sami
Thank you for posting this video. There is a real lack of information about these Fiber Lasers. Your video is the first one I have seen that actually talks about what you get for your money.
Thank you for sharing this video. It answered all my questions and afew more I should've had. Your way of explaining is the textbook example for teaching with compassion.
Just wanted to let you know that your videos are awesome and to keep up the great work. Because of your video I’ve started looking into getting one myself. Thank you.
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There is a button on the top of the head that enables the focusing lasers, there are two of them and when they become a single dot on the thing you want to etch its in focus :) They may not always be adjusted correctly/damaged in shipping but mine came setup correctly.
Hi ... On flat surface both dots are connecting at same place once we place any ring on that area it is not connecting while rotating top head. How to know the exact engrave area of that. After pressing F1 it is showing on ring but after pressing F2 nothing engraved on that area. Means what to do for that. Please explain
I have a buddy that has this exact machine and he marks all of his products with his logo. pretty cool unit, very good vid on how to set it up. thanks!
There should be an attachment to help you find focal length easily. Like two lasers attached to either side of that head aimed to meet at focal length for the lens used. Otherwise, adjusting this focus every time the height of item being laser-marked changes will become tedious.
Hello Jeffery, thanks for the video, good demo. Although I already have a Co2 laser, I am just starting to look at fibre lasers to expand capabilities a bit. This has been helpful. I like the datum's that you have set up, but could I also suggest something that I used many years ago , on a YAG laser ( very expensive, with little options) , our company was manufacturing hundreds of different parts, which all had to be laser etched. This created a bottleneck at the laser, and fixture making to hold many parts also held us up. The solution was to locate a LEGO build base down on the table( MARKING AREA 110 MM x 110MM ) . The operators then built their own fixtures from LEGO bricks, simple snapping them down on the fixed base. Lego bricks are extremely accurate with 8 mm centres, The operators become very articulate, and were all up and running marking arrays of components very quickly. Just a thought.
If you get an open version like this I'd strongly recommend making an enclosed frame out of extrusion or similar and wearing fiber safe glasses when marking. We did this with ours and will be fitting a reed switch connected to a stop on the frame door. Apparently when you get hit by one of these in the eyes it feels like a hair dryer without the heat, and that's it. Vision gone instantly and permanently, unlike a CO2. I can't stress enough, don't use these without decent eye protection. Our 30 watt gives a 2mm deep engrave in aluminium in 5 or 6 hours. Much longer on steel as you have to leave it to cool periodically otherwise it will warp.
How long would it take to get a .006 ( .152 mm) depth on 316L with a 20W? Also, what frequency, speed and focus do you recommend? Im sure there a differences between machines.
What is your focal range on this? That is to say, if you were marking a curved surface, how far above and below your focal point can you go before the marking gets lousy?
For some reason my laser only puts a box around the text to be marked when setting up on the part. Is there a setting so the laser shows the actual text to be marked?
Thanks for the video. I bought the same laser but with the monitor attached, and it doesn’t work. Can I connect my laptop as well? If so how do I install the EZCAD 2 software?
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I know you showed using a digital caliper to determine the focal length but is there a more precise method? I ask because I have so hardware I'd like to make and unfortunately they are quite expensive so I don't have one I can spare for testing purposes. so could I maybe get a piece of wood or something and make it the exact height as the part, test it and then run the real part? Also what is the Maximum height of the part it can cut? Could I do something that is say 10" High? thanks for the informative video.
Hi Jeffery, I watched a few of your videos now, Thank you. For my purposes, I think a 50w raycus fiber laser is probably what I need. I want to use it for aluminium but also carbon fiber composite. I note you've also tried the fiber laser with some different kinds of plastics. I have found a few people on youtube demonstrating the fiber laser cutting thin pieces of carbon fiber composite and wondering if you've ever tried this? Since I will be working with quite a bit of carbon fiber this is something I'd be really keen to use it with. I suspect it will do it, but probably needs quite a bit of trial and error and optimising to get a decent marking and cutting through 1mm. I'm not too worried about the quality of the cut finish as I can tidy that up. The main advantage is the ability to cut and mark the carbon fiber with much greater control offered by the fiber laser. If you've got any thoughts on this, I'd love to hear from you.
Yes, a great vid! But I am wondering what brand this machine. BTW, I believe the 'split' designation refers to using two 10 watt lasers that are merged together to achieve 20 watts. I was looking at a laser system today that looked the same and seemed to be American made, but this is Chinese made?
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Hey Jeff, Thanks for the video! What is your long term review on this machine after a few years? Also, I was wondering: what is the smallest spot diameter / line width you can achieve approximately when marking?
im looking foward to buying one, but the big question is, can it cut 1mm bronze sheet?, im looking to do some gobos ilumination. thanks for your time to answer.
Very helpful, thanks! One query: you don't mention grounding the machine. Mine arrived with a coiled grounding wire and a warning the machine should be grounded to stop it destroying itself with static electricity... I'm not sure how to do that, as mine is in the loft of my house.
Easy Cad definitely does inches and mm. Depending on the version, the setting should be either in the "grid" settings, or next to the "grid" pulldown. Also, find out the focal distance, cut a piece of scrap to that distance, and use that as your height adjustment.
Are you able to export a sketch as a DXF from CAD software like Fusion 360 or Solidworks with your CAD document unit set as inches, then import that DXF into EzCad with proper scaling? This is where I ran into trouble. I can manually scale things in EzCad to inches, or I can set the system parameters to inches and draw directly in EzCad, but I can't successfully import an 'inch' DXF into EzCad without having to scale. For example: If I export a 1 inch square sketch as a DXF, then bring that into EzCad as a vector file while my EzCad system is in inches, it will come in as 0.039"x0.039" which seems like it's reading the DXF dimensions as MM regardless of the system settings and the DXF document settings. It's not a big deal, but if you can tell me what I'm missing that'd be great. I'm using version 2.14.2.
Yep, I use an inline 4" fan that works pretty well. Before that, I started with a WEN filtration unit and an enclosure that you can see in another video I made if you're interested.
cant see that software perfectly but if its Lasermark you can press F1 (red) to focus the laser height and once the red dot is on focus that will eliminate the need to test it on the fly
Great videos! Thank you. Would you suggest 30W or 50W? My main materials will be gold and silver. Things like nameplates,engraving inside and outside of rings. The name plates would be anywhere from 1.5mm to 2mm. From my understanding the deeper the cutting the more passes and time it requires. Is there a quality drawback to multiple passes? Thanks 😊
JJ - can we speak or write outside this forum re: a job offer? Also, is the link on eBay to the same product still valid? If so, would you post it here? Lastly, can you integrate a rotary unit into your system?
@@yeorge1350 Dear ,What do you want to engrave? I have this machine you can add me to ask for parameters and prices.What's App:1854018893 Email(Skype):sales03@grslaser.com
thank you for your videos!! what's the secret to a deep engraving, for example: deep engraved text on a bar of aluminum. is it slower speed? frequency?
Thank you for this video. I was about to buy one but I just learned the output of NOT collimated and that means it is not good for 3D objects. Thanks for saving me $3000 (although those things are a bit cheaper here in China thanks to the booming smartphone repair applications to delaminate LCD and touch panels, but $2000 is still a fairly good chunk of money).
@@justinhughes4722 Depending on what you are after. For just marking, you can buy one of those cheapest $1000 lasers with AOM Q-switched laser source, cheapest galvo (usually Sino Galvo branded) and the Lite version of EZCAD control card and software. I actually ended buying one constructed this way, at a higher price because it uses all best components but the paper specs are not very good, essentially I paid for the quality, not the performance. One step up, you can get those so called MOPA lasers, which allows you to control pulse width, which is very important for precisely controlling laser dose. This is needed if you need to engrave color on steel (by controlling the energy, thus controlling the localized heat, thus controlling the thickness of oxidation film, this controlling the interference wavelength and color), or to engrave black on aluminum, or to engrave pure white on plastic. This will run you from $2500 to much much higher, depending on the brand and power of the laser and galvo, plus building quality. The one I'm building form scratch has its laser source alone to be $3500+ (JPT gen 7, 30W, MOPA), and a $1500 German galvo scanner, and custom control card and power architecture. I'm building it for nano material processing, so cost is not a factor. For marking use, this is highly overkill, and I think for beginner if you don't care about color or steel/color on titanium, just get those $1000~$2000 Q-switched fiber lasers.
Still looking around, and haven't bought one - YET...! First started reviewing those "Cheap Chinese Diode Lasers ("20 Watts"= 4 to 5 Watts output), and talked myself OUT of them. Then looked at the 40 to 50 Watt CO2 machines, and can't decide. Thank you SO Much for "finalizing my train of thought" about the Fiber Lasers. (Looking like Christmas might be early, this year!). Haha!
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eBay sellers are either tied into or contracted sellers to shift a producer of the lasers they sell Amazon’s, Aliexpress etc are all basically the same. There are some drop seller type who have the online “store” on most if not all of the above, they sell the laser…the supplier or maker ships it out. So no matter the seller or the store, the laser is …usually…a quality product with factory support. A snag can apply where countries have a returns collector/ and hold new stock…returns can be “restored to factory a new batch of the inclusions and it can be sold as new!
Thanks for the info. My only problem is can't seem to stop getting these errors. About not saving my settings. And how to load font, and can't load images
After years of use.. Did you need to contact ..the eBay sellers warranty / Two ( or more) years cover? If so did it exist and dit it function as we would expect?? I ask because….to avoid customs and tax …I bought a 30w Raycus off eBay! Asking for the path to contact warranty support…I got numeric only email address, which could be the sellers mother for all I know!
Hi Jeffrey and thanks for your videos. I have been investigating using a fibre laser for rust removal. I can't seem to find a difference between the engraving lasers and the cleaning lasers other than a HUGE price difference. Have you ever tried "lasering" rust off with your machine? Many thanks, Doug
Great video! As others have mentioned, not a lot of good info about these fiber lasers. Thanks for making this! Could this laser cut through 0.5mm metal? Such as a metal jar lid?
now that you have had this machine for a while is there anything you wish you had bought differently? larger marking area, more power, different manufacturer, ect?
Great video. Is the style laser capable of marking on curved surfaces? In other words if you had a dome protruding from the surface the software compensate?
There is a feature in the software that can account for curvature, but it doesn't adjust the focal point of the laser. Some people use a larger lens like a 300x300 to get a wider marking angle so it's more forgiving on curved surfaces. This is often done to avoid using a rotary when marking cups.
I am amazed there is no optical shielding. What is the wavelength? Do you wear glasses? Does any beam reflect off of materials and poke holes in your... uhmmm.. anything?
thank you very much for this video. inspires confidence! did not know that there was some things you needed to clear with the FDA and duty. any idea if that process is a headache? price?
Hey great video and just what I need. A quick question if you have a moment. When engraving/marking aluminium does it have to be anodised? And would you say 20w is a more them powerful matching to mark stainless and aluminium.
Anodizing is not necessary; a fiber laser can mark bare metal. Yes, a 20w can mark stainless and aluminum. If you need to hit depth, more power will be faster.
I'm having trouble with the importfilter for various textfiles .Only the autocad version R12 is acceptable . By younger versions of autocad the ascii file of Arial writing is regular translated to times new roman writing .Do you have an idea to change this ? Another problem is the use of ecxel files . Which ecxel version is useable ?
Thank you for this amazing video, great review and explanation, it pushes me further towards buying an ebay fiber, my plan is to start with jewllery, rings, stainless, i'm looking at buyingthe 20W but should i go 30W to be more future proof? would i be able to use the 30W as a 20W, by lowering the power and such.. or is there a downside?
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I'd probably get a 30w if I were buying again today, but to be honest, I really haven't needed it. Most of my marking is on anodized aluminum which requires very little power. The advantage of a more powerful laser is the ability to hit depths faster.
@@jefferyj thanks for clearification on that topic, and the 110x110 - 150x150 etc. is nothing but how big an item can be.. its your total engraving surface right?
Hey Jeff, Thank you for the great video. I am planning to get fiber laser to make more professional engravings. And i am wondering is 20w is just enough to engrave metals. Can you go little deeper and do true engraving on 20w or needs more like 30W or 50W for that?
What do you need an enclosure for? I'm told its to filter your sight when you look at the laser directly? Or is there a different purpose for the enclosure? Thanks.
I mark a lot of anodized aluminum and it creates a significant amount of dust that gets all over the workspace and computer. The enclosure contains this dust and allows me to run an inline fan to extract fumes/dust. I wear glasses for protection, but some people do build enclosures with an appropriate type of plastic to provide protection.
Great video, I have beem considering one of these for a while now after realizing I dont have room for a K40 machine and the fiber laser seems to be much better at metal engraving. What power is your machine? and have you done any deep cutting with it?
Great review Jeffery, I’ve been looking to get a engraver for polymer plastic but I think this is too much for my project, could you recommend a entry level for plastic, if possible I can send you a sample of what I need to be engraved, thanks in advance
Depending what your material is, you might look at CO2 lasers also. If you search 'epilog laserable materials' you will find a list of materials suitable for fiber and for CO2. They tend to be cheaper so it might suit your project.
If I could afford a fiber laser, I'd want one that could cut .25" thick knife making steel. I make custom hunting knives and "e.d.c." knives. Do you have any experience with such lasers and what is the minimum that I would be spending? I imagine a minimum of a 11" x 14" cutting area would be necessary to even consider it.
Can I engrave a decent quality resolution photo on aluminum, gold or silver for necklace medal jewelry? FDA registered permit? Is that process necessary? Cost?
Good information, thanks. I seem to have a problem when I set a text size of say 10mm it engraves as only 6.9mm actual size, could you check your system and see if you have the same problem.
That's mostly because you didn't use correction file. Or didn't set right working range. If any help, you can also contact me, we are China laser machine manufacturer
Hey jeffery, I got a machine from china and the machine came as a 220v, do you know what converter i should get or could you recommend one? also the power cable that came with the machine was cut, where can i get a power cable?
JefferyJ, I want to tell you how much I appreciate your videos. They gave me the confidence to buy a 20W fiber laser to mark tools we make for my business. I was able to get it up and running and make great marks within a few hours. Your videos and test files made that possible. Thank you for taking the time to great and post them, the information is so valuable. Thank you Sami
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Thank you for posting this video. There is a real lack of information about these Fiber Lasers. Your video is the first one I have seen that actually talks about what you get for your money.
Thank you for sharing this video. It answered all my questions and afew more I should've had. Your way of explaining is the textbook example for teaching with compassion.
You are, without a doubt, the best "Teacher" I have ever learned from. Brilliant.
I like how you talk swiftly and to the point !
Just wanted to let you know that your videos are awesome and to keep up the great work. Because of your video I’ve started looking into getting one myself. Thank you.
Thanks
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Thank god a real video. Boss sent me home with a new 50w and I was so lost lol thanks!
There is a button on the top of the head that enables the focusing lasers, there are two of them and when they become a single dot on the thing you want to etch its in focus :) They may not always be adjusted correctly/damaged in shipping but mine came setup correctly.
Hi ... On flat surface both dots are connecting at same place once we place any ring on that area it is not connecting while rotating top head. How to know the exact engrave area of that. After pressing F1 it is showing on ring but after pressing F2 nothing engraved on that area. Means what to do for that. Please explain
Thank you
I just got the exact model and have been struggling with the video tutorial half Chinese. You explained a lot.
I have a buddy that has this exact machine and he marks all of his products with his logo. pretty cool unit, very good vid on how to set it up. thanks!
Thanks I thought it needed a moving base but I guess it uses moving mirror instead and that what makes it need the up and down movement
Nice video! The button on the top of the head is for focusing the laser 😉
Finally someone made a good vid on fiber lasers.
@Ellis Kole will it engrave a glock slide?
@@chasedowney3358 Yes. There is a lot of people doing that here: facebook.com/groups/fiberlasers
Your review is greatly appreciated! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for this review. I've been riding the fence on one of these and your review helps!
No problem....I was on the fence for several months before I made the purchase.
There should be an attachment to help you find focal length easily. Like two lasers attached to either side of that head aimed to meet at focal length for the lens used.
Otherwise, adjusting this focus every time the height of item being laser-marked changes will become tedious.
Thank you for this video! This is exactly what I was looking for.
Hello Jeffery, thanks for the video, good demo. Although I already have a Co2 laser, I am just starting to look at fibre lasers to expand capabilities a bit. This has been helpful. I like the datum's that you have set up, but could I also suggest something that I used many years ago , on a YAG laser ( very expensive, with little options) , our company was manufacturing hundreds of different parts, which all had to be laser etched. This created a bottleneck at the laser, and fixture making to hold many parts also held us up. The solution was to locate a LEGO build base down on the table( MARKING AREA 110 MM x 110MM ) . The operators then built their own fixtures from LEGO bricks, simple snapping them down on the fixed base. Lego bricks are extremely accurate with 8 mm centres, The operators become very articulate, and were all up and running marking arrays of components very quickly. Just a thought.
That's awesome!
If you get an open version like this I'd strongly recommend making an enclosed frame out of extrusion or similar and wearing fiber safe glasses when marking. We did this with ours and will be fitting a reed switch connected to a stop on the frame door.
Apparently when you get hit by one of these in the eyes it feels like a hair dryer without the heat, and that's it. Vision gone instantly and permanently, unlike a CO2. I can't stress enough, don't use these without decent eye protection.
Our 30 watt gives a 2mm deep engrave in aluminium in 5 or 6 hours. Much longer on steel as you have to leave it to cool periodically otherwise it will warp.
Thank you sir will keep in mind
How long would it take to get a .006 ( .152 mm) depth on 316L with a 20W? Also, what frequency, speed and focus do you recommend? Im sure there a differences between machines.
So a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range would barely scratch the chassis of a terminator endoskeleton?
Thank you your video was right to the point it didn't drag on like most videos
Thanks for the video! Nicely done!
It would be great if they add some kind of stop block at the rail to set the zero height.
Thank you, that was very helpful. Is there a machine that does auto-focus?
great video, thanks for sharing!
What is your focal range on this? That is to say, if you were marking a curved surface, how far above and below your focal point can you go before the marking gets lousy?
For some reason my laser only puts a box around the text to be marked when setting up on the part. Is there a setting so the laser shows the actual text to be marked?
Great vid, thx! I am looking to buy one, would you still recommend this one? Thanks
Thanks for the video. I bought the same laser but with the monitor attached, and it doesn’t work. Can I connect my laptop as well? If so how do I install the EZCAD 2 software?
Here is a question... Would it be able to remove the copper layer of a PCB?
What is the wavelength of this laser? How do you choose a wavelength and power for marking metals?
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Hi Mr Jeff, do you configure the focus lens every laser jobs (ie. Engraving/cutting)?
Or it just need to config once? Thank you.
Hi, could you please make a video of what kind of protective gear you wear during its operations
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I know you showed using a digital caliper to determine the focal length but is there a more precise method? I ask because I have so hardware I'd like to make and unfortunately they are quite expensive so I don't have one I can spare for testing purposes. so could I maybe get a piece of wood or something and make it the exact height as the part, test it and then run the real part? Also what is the Maximum height of the part it can cut? Could I do something that is say 10" High? thanks for the informative video.
nice machine and great work
Hi Jeffery, I watched a few of your videos now, Thank you. For my purposes, I think a 50w raycus fiber laser is probably what I need. I want to use it for aluminium but also carbon fiber composite. I note you've also tried the fiber laser with some different kinds of plastics. I have found a few people on youtube demonstrating the fiber laser cutting thin pieces of carbon fiber composite and wondering if you've ever tried this? Since I will be working with quite a bit of carbon fiber this is something I'd be really keen to use it with. I suspect it will do it, but probably needs quite a bit of trial and error and optimising to get a decent marking and cutting through 1mm. I'm not too worried about the quality of the cut finish as I can tidy that up. The main advantage is the ability to cut and mark the carbon fiber with much greater control offered by the fiber laser. If you've got any thoughts on this, I'd love to hear from you.
Yes, a great vid! But I am wondering what brand this machine. BTW, I believe the 'split' designation refers to using two 10 watt lasers that are merged together to achieve 20 watts. I was looking at a laser system today that looked the same and seemed to be American made, but this is Chinese made?
soooo informative thank you!
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Hey Jeff, Thanks for the video! What is your long term review on this machine after a few years? Also, I was wondering: what is the smallest spot diameter / line width you can achieve approximately when marking?
I personally don't own a Fiber laser but if its anything like a CO2 laser it is approximately the diameter of a human hair.
im looking foward to buying one, but the big question is, can it cut 1mm bronze sheet?, im looking to do some gobos ilumination. thanks for your time to answer.
looking at the 30W like this to start doing some NFA engraving and other firearm related lasering.
Very helpful, thanks! One query: you don't mention grounding the machine. Mine arrived with a coiled grounding wire and a warning the machine should be grounded to stop it destroying itself with static electricity... I'm not sure how to do that, as mine is in the loft of my house.
It's probably a good idea, but I didn't do it. I do have a ground on my main plug.
Easy Cad definitely does inches and mm. Depending on the version, the setting should be either in the "grid" settings, or next to the "grid" pulldown.
Also, find out the focal distance, cut a piece of scrap to that distance, and use that as your height adjustment.
Are you able to export a sketch as a DXF from CAD software like Fusion 360 or Solidworks with your CAD document unit set as inches, then import that DXF into EzCad with proper scaling? This is where I ran into trouble. I can manually scale things in EzCad to inches, or I can set the system parameters to inches and draw directly in EzCad, but I can't successfully import an 'inch' DXF into EzCad without having to scale.
For example: If I export a 1 inch square sketch as a DXF, then bring that into EzCad as a vector file while my EzCad system is in inches, it will come in as 0.039"x0.039" which seems like it's reading the DXF dimensions as MM regardless of the system settings and the DXF document settings.
It's not a big deal, but if you can tell me what I'm missing that'd be great. I'm using version 2.14.2.
@@jefferyj Here's the manual: fiber-laser-systems.com/EzCad2%20Client%20Use%20Handbook%20(20100528).pdf
System parameters > General > Unit Type
Muy bien explicado, me agradó tu video, gracias
Thanks very informative video
Could you engrave fire arms
You can change the lens for marking size
So do i need to buy easy cad or is that the driver ?
Great video!!
Also a really good idea to have an exhaust fan and a carbon monoxide detector...
Yep, I use an inline 4" fan that works pretty well. Before that, I started with a WEN filtration unit and an enclosure that you can see in another video I made if you're interested.
cant see that software perfectly but if its Lasermark you can press F1 (red) to focus the laser height and once the red dot is on focus that will eliminate the need to test it on the fly
Looking to engrave,polymer pistol frames,think this 20watt is good enough?
Great videos! Thank you.
Would you suggest 30W or 50W? My main materials will be gold and silver. Things like nameplates,engraving inside and outside of rings.
The name plates would be anywhere from 1.5mm to 2mm.
From my understanding the deeper the cutting the more passes and time it requires. Is there a quality drawback to multiple passes?
Thanks 😊
Hi Tatevik, if you need to cut a nameplates, then better choose a 50w model. bigger power model more eficiency.
Hi Jeffery, is this type of laser could be dangerous for the eyes on a long term basis ?
can we produce gobos for logo projectors? please please do video on that !
JJ - can we speak or write outside this forum re: a job offer? Also, is the link on eBay to the same product still valid? If so, would you post it here? Lastly, can you integrate a rotary unit into your system?
Great video! Thank you.
Thanks buddy I’m just going to order the Raycus 50w 👍👍👍
dear Miller,have you bought it?I am the seller
@@jamessi7433 I want to buy a 30W
@@jamessi7433 tell me price of fiber 20 w laser marking machine
@@travelstory7584 FOB 2500USD
@@yeorge1350 Dear ,What do you want to engrave? I have this machine you can add me to ask for parameters and prices.What's App:1854018893 Email(Skype):sales03@grslaser.com
thank you for your videos!! what's the secret to a deep engraving, for example: deep engraved text on a bar of aluminum. is it slower speed? frequency?
Hi Aris, it is just the matter of time, deep engraving takes more time.
Thank you for this video. I was about to buy one but I just learned the output of NOT collimated and that means it is not good for 3D objects. Thanks for saving me $3000 (although those things are a bit cheaper here in China thanks to the booming smartphone repair applications to delaminate LCD and touch panels, but $2000 is still a fairly good chunk of money).
@@justinhughes4722 Depending on what you are after. For just marking, you can buy one of those cheapest $1000 lasers with AOM Q-switched laser source, cheapest galvo (usually Sino Galvo branded) and the Lite version of EZCAD control card and software. I actually ended buying one constructed this way, at a higher price because it uses all best components but the paper specs are not very good, essentially I paid for the quality, not the performance. One step up, you can get those so called MOPA lasers, which allows you to control pulse width, which is very important for precisely controlling laser dose. This is needed if you need to engrave color on steel (by controlling the energy, thus controlling the localized heat, thus controlling the thickness of oxidation film, this controlling the interference wavelength and color), or to engrave black on aluminum, or to engrave pure white on plastic. This will run you from $2500 to much much higher, depending on the brand and power of the laser and galvo, plus building quality. The one I'm building form scratch has its laser source alone to be $3500+ (JPT gen 7, 30W, MOPA), and a $1500 German galvo scanner, and custom control card and power architecture. I'm building it for nano material processing, so cost is not a factor. For marking use, this is highly overkill, and I think for beginner if you don't care about color or steel/color on titanium, just get those $1000~$2000 Q-switched fiber lasers.
Nice video.Thanks.
Thank you!
Still looking around, and haven't bought one - YET...! First started reviewing those "Cheap Chinese Diode Lasers ("20 Watts"= 4 to 5 Watts output), and talked myself OUT of them. Then looked at the 40 to 50 Watt CO2 machines, and can't decide.
Thank you SO Much for "finalizing my train of thought" about the Fiber Lasers. (Looking like Christmas might be early, this year!). Haha!
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eBay sellers are either tied into or contracted sellers to shift a producer of the lasers they sell Amazon’s, Aliexpress etc are all basically the same. There are some drop seller type who have the online “store” on most if not all of the above, they sell the laser…the supplier or maker ships it out. So no matter the seller or the store, the laser is …usually…a quality product with factory support. A snag can apply where countries have a returns collector/ and hold new stock…returns can be “restored to factory a new batch of the inclusions and it can be sold as new!
Hello like your videos very informative
I'm looking to buy a used laser having hard time do you know any for sale out there
Hello Jeffrey, have you tried engraving stainless steel tumblers/mugs? Or anything that required a rotary attachment. Thanks in advance :D!
Not yet, but I may in the near future.
Thanks for the info. My only problem is can't seem to stop getting these errors. About not saving my settings. And how to load font, and can't load images
Not sure if I understand the issue but try this czcams.com/video/sWHD2M6FmJI/video.html
After years of use..
Did you need to contact ..the eBay sellers warranty / Two ( or more) years cover? If so did it exist and dit it function as we would expect??
I ask because….to avoid customs and tax …I bought a 30w Raycus off eBay!
Asking for the path to contact warranty support…I got numeric only email address, which could be the sellers mother for all I know!
Thanks for the video Jeff, very informative. May i know how deep this machine can engrave?
The spec is 0.3mm for a 20w fiber. Check out some of my other videos where I show depth in various materials.
@@jefferyj For all materials? thanks for the video, i suppose that 30 an 50 w goes only more deep, that's the only thing?
How deep will it engrave in alum and steel?
Hi Jeffrey and thanks for your videos. I have been investigating using a fibre laser for rust removal. I can't seem to find a difference between the engraving lasers and the cleaning lasers other than a HUGE price difference. Have you ever tried "lasering" rust off with your machine?
Many thanks, Doug
I believe you can use it for that, but I haven't tried.
What is small size marking it can do
Thanks Jeff for the video. Is this machine environment-friendly and can be used indoor?
yes.
Great video! As others have mentioned, not a lot of good info about these fiber lasers. Thanks for making this! Could this laser cut through 0.5mm metal? Such as a metal jar lid?
It's not great for cutting, really just for marking and engraving a bit - maybe to around 0.3mm.
Can it engrave black on steel. If yes what settings did you use?
now that you have had this machine for a while is there anything you wish you had bought differently? larger marking area, more power, different manufacturer, ect?
No major regrets, but if I were to buy again today I'd get a 30w with a 100mm lens and a 200 or 300mm lens.
Hey Jeff. I'm having trouble with my laser, everything I engrave reversed. I've dug through all the settings and I can find. Am I missing something?
Go to parameters (f3), field tab, locate and click the galvo2=X button. I'm guessing the galvo1=x is currently selected.
Great video. Is the style laser capable of marking on curved surfaces? In other words if you had a dome protruding from the surface the software compensate?
There is a feature in the software that can account for curvature, but it doesn't adjust the focal point of the laser. Some people use a larger lens like a 300x300 to get a wider marking angle so it's more forgiving on curved surfaces. This is often done to avoid using a rotary when marking cups.
If not too much on curved surfaces.It is ok
I am amazed there is no optical shielding. What is the wavelength? Do you wear glasses? Does any beam reflect off of materials and poke holes in your... uhmmm.. anything?
What’s the price for this engraver and is it good for engraving jewellery
thank you very much for this video. inspires confidence! did not know that there was some things you needed to clear with the FDA and duty. any idea if that process is a headache? price?
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i'll work around a 6kw co2 laser with no eye protection. with this wavelength i would wear eye protection at any power level
Hey great video and just what I need. A quick question if you have a moment. When engraving/marking aluminium does it have to be anodised? And would you say 20w is a more them powerful matching to mark stainless and aluminium.
Anodizing is not necessary; a fiber laser can mark bare metal. Yes, a 20w can mark stainless and aluminum. If you need to hit depth, more power will be faster.
Marking effect on anodized aluminium is better than on raw aluminium
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I'd probably get a 30w if I were buying again today, but to be honest, I really haven't needed it. Most of my marking is on anodized aluminum which requires very little power. The advantage of a more powerful laser is the ability to hit depths faster.
@@jefferyj thanks for clearification on that topic, and the 110x110 - 150x150 etc. is nothing but how big an item can be.. its your total engraving surface right?
Hey Jeff, Thank you for the great video. I am planning to get fiber laser to make more professional engravings. And i am wondering is 20w is just enough to engrave metals. Can you go little deeper and do true engraving on 20w or needs more like 30W or 50W for that?
20w can engrave, but if you need depth (and need to reach that depth quickly), you're better off with a 30 or 50.
Usually 20W do marking is fast, engraving depth is 0.1mm maximum, 30W engraving depth 0.1-0.5mm, 50W engraving depth is 1mm maximum.
What do you need an enclosure for? I'm told its to filter your sight when you look at the laser directly? Or is there a different purpose for the enclosure? Thanks.
I mark a lot of anodized aluminum and it creates a significant amount of dust that gets all over the workspace and computer. The enclosure contains this dust and allows me to run an inline fan to extract fumes/dust. I wear glasses for protection, but some people do build enclosures with an appropriate type of plastic to provide protection.
Will this laser engrave firearms and how deep would engraving be
Who was the eBay seller of your 20W fiber laser? Interested in making a purchase.
Where will I find the machine?
Possible sales website link
Please
How is this laser performing for you, 2 years later?
Great video, I have beem considering one of these for a while now after realizing I dont have room for a K40 machine and the fiber laser seems to be much better at metal engraving. What power is your machine? and have you done any deep cutting with it?
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Great review Jeffery, I’ve been looking to get a engraver for polymer plastic but I think this is too much for my project, could you recommend a entry level for plastic, if possible I can send you a sample of what I need to be engraved, thanks in advance
Depending what your material is, you might look at CO2 lasers also. If you search 'epilog laserable materials' you will find a list of materials suitable for fiber and for CO2. They tend to be cheaper so it might suit your project.
JefferyJ thanks Jeffery, I’m looking to engrave on a plastic called Kydex, I’ve looked into C02 engravers, I’ll take another look, thanks
How deeply into brass will this "engrave" ? I need to replicate hand stamps and a 1 lb sledge impressions in keys. ( Etching will wear off )
This is only 20w power, so about 0.3mm deep. A higher power laser will be faster.
While I want to write mark2 it shows me laser reserved
If I could afford a fiber laser, I'd want one that could cut .25" thick knife making steel. I make custom hunting knives and "e.d.c." knives. Do you have any experience with such lasers and what is the minimum that I would be spending? I imagine a minimum of a 11" x 14" cutting area would be necessary to even consider it.
Can I engrave a decent quality resolution photo on aluminum, gold or silver for necklace medal jewelry? FDA registered permit? Is that process necessary? Cost?
Yes you can
Good information, thanks. I seem to have a problem when I set a text size of say 10mm it engraves as only 6.9mm actual size, could you check your system and see if you have the same problem.
That's mostly because you didn't use correction file. Or didn't set right working range. If any help, you can also contact me, we are China laser machine manufacturer
Hey jeffery, I got a machine from china and the machine came as a 220v, do you know what converter i should get or could you recommend one? also the power cable that came with the machine was cut, where can i get a power cable?
Why not ask your China supplier to send you a power cable?