The Flawed Men of Mount Rushmore | History Traveler Episode 83

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  • Mount Rushmore is one of the most iconic landmarks in the United States. But it's not without its controversy. In this episode, we're traveling to Mount Rushmore to explore the history behind this monumental achievement and reflect on some of the lessons that we can learn there. Also, did you know that Mount Rushmore has a secret room?????
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Komentáře • 353

  • @cards0486
    @cards0486 Před 3 lety +99

    What person ISN’T flawed?
    These men weren’t perfect, they were just better than average. They lived their lives striving to do good for America and her people.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +2

      Agreed.

    • @flysubcompact
      @flysubcompact Před 3 lety +3

      Rushmore will likely not stand after the communists finish wringing out this country.

    • @kryptic5007
      @kryptic5007 Před 2 lety +1

      It’s been a year but I hope you see this. Better than average? Let’s go down the list lmao. I know it’s a lot, but I dare you to read it.
      Washington had dentures made of slave teeth. With him making the point of everyone being “DEEPY FLAWED”, following that up with Washington and Jefferson with people like JFK and MLK, which just shows the blind and unknown bias you all have with the glorification of “history”, which was hundreds of years of imperialism and domination. He says Washington and Jefferson were born and inherited a system, AS PRESIDENTS LMAO, who could’ve changed the sense of morality behind their country.
      Owning people you bought from Another country. The greed my african ancestors will never be forgiven as well. This is why everyone should be humble and understand morality and not just think about status, power and money. It isn’t just an inherited system, it’s a morality struggle thinking your neighbor is not equal to you, and not owning up to it.
      Jefferson raped (yes rape, any slave could not reject unwanted sexual advances by their master), Sally Hemings. You may make the argument they may have formed a love interest like Stockholm syndrome. But she later applied for freedom with her children with Jefferson, WITHOUT HIM. She didn’t want him to come. And two of her sisters bore children to white men, as all five siblings were slaves. You’re telling me she wanted that? Seeing the experience of being a slave with its limitless nightmares? So the two other girls wanted it too, presumably? But this is all history and should be forgiven, because they were too 🐱 to realize this was wrong, doing this to RANDOM STRANGERS WHO JUST WANTED TO BE HAPPY. Moving on to Theo Roosevelt.
      He once said “the only good Indian is a dead Indian,”. More specifically, “I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indian is the dead Indian,” he said in 1886, “but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian.” Enough said LMFAO. I’m not tryna cancel these people I’m tryna wake y’all up. These folks didn’t care about anything. They had to be dead inside. Morality births the souls!
      And Abraham Lincoln performed the largest mass hanging in the Dakota War of 1862, which started because white settlers were pushing out the Sioux-Dakota Indians. Broken promises made by the government to give them food and supplies in return of a peaceful exit from their own rightful land happened, and the Indians grew tired of it. The starving group of leader Little Crow in a series of attacks on frontier settlements. This is when the government came and were too slow enough to use their brain for one second, and realized people were dying of starvation they promised them as a land they keep talking to highly about with its opportunities and fairness. They LIED.

    • @coffeeson1
      @coffeeson1 Před rokem +1

      @@BigBoss1R Another ridiculous comment...I find anyone who advanced this country endearing to my heart. It seems to matter to you someone's color or religious convictions, I just see American Hero's!!

    • @rickgregory9616
      @rickgregory9616 Před rokem

      @@coffeeson1 I solute you brother! 👏

  • @BigLisaFan
    @BigLisaFan Před 3 lety +69

    They were flawed because they were mortal men. Destruction of the carvings would be like the Taliban destroying those ancient statues of Budda. Some things, like Mount Rushmore, belong to the world and all of mankind. The confederate statues and memorials were of men who believed in their cause and of their rights and their freedom to make a choice. They were products of their times and we should learn from them, not destroy them.

    • @lefthandedRN
      @lefthandedRN Před 3 lety +2

      Well, confederate statues don't belong on public property. They weren't fighting for only "choice", they were fighting to enslave my ancestors. They were traitors. Those statues can't be compared to the men on Mt. Rushmore.

    • @BigLisaFan
      @BigLisaFan Před 3 lety +12

      @@lefthandedRN Most confederate soldiers couldn't afford slaves and couldn't care less one way or the other I imagine. They felt that they had the right to leave the Union and felt the Federal government was stamping on state rights. When the war broke out, they fought to protect their homes and families and were loyal to their home state. Robert Lee was offered command of the entire Union Army, the pinnacle of a military career. He declined because he said he could not raise his hand against Virginia.
      Slavery was evil, I will not argue that. Eventually it would have been abolished. When the war broke out, the topic of slavery wasn't even part of the mandate, it was only later Lincoln put it into the mix.

    • @danwoodliefphotography871
      @danwoodliefphotography871 Před 3 lety +3

      @@BigLisaFan However, it was the reason for secession. Some southern states said exactly that in writing. Slavery caused secession; secession caused the war. Yes, individual motivations varied.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +8

      You might look up the articles of secession for each state. They're an interested read and reveal a lot about the motivations that each state had for secession. Mississippi lays it out pretty clear in the first few lines.

    • @chrisjohnson6765
      @chrisjohnson6765 Před 3 lety +5

      lefthandedrn Couldn’t disagree more. We learn as much or more from our struggles and failures as citizens as we do from our victories and advancements. History and it’s icons are the tokens by which we judge our advancement, not as assumed objects of adulation. All history by definition should be part of the public arena.

  • @gadams51883
    @gadams51883 Před 3 lety +14

    I've been to Rushmore 3 times and you gave a great tour. Your message at the conclusion was right on, the word 'Grace" unfortunately is not used enough in today's society. Thanks for the tour!!

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +3

      Thank you. Appreciate that. And yes, a little more grace would do this country a lot of good.

  • @alanbower1193
    @alanbower1193 Před 3 lety +19

    I vaguely remember going there when I was a little kid. I was 4 or 5 years old. My Grandfather told me we were going to visit giants who had died and turned into stone. In a way he was right. They were giants and we should never forget what those men and countless others did for out country. Semper Fi.

  • @vawterb
    @vawterb Před 3 lety +29

    I can't agree more with your sentiments regarding grace and forgiveness with people of the past! Another great video! From the planning of the trip to the journey to the editing and posting, thank you for your work!

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Much appreciated. I enjoy putting them together.

    • @kryptic5007
      @kryptic5007 Před 2 lety

      It’s been a year but I hope you see this. Forgiveness? How about hold them accountable for the morality bar they set! Let’s go down the list lmao. I know it’s a lot, but I dare you to read it all.
      Washington had dentures made of slave teeth. With him making the point of everyone being “DEEPY FLAWED”, following that up with Washington and Jefferson with people like JFK and MLK, which just shows the blind and unknown bias you all have with the glorification of “history”, which was hundreds of years of imperialism and domination. He says Washington and Jefferson were born and inherited a system, AS PRESIDENTS LMAO, who could’ve changed the sense of morality behind their country.
      Owning people you bought from Another country. The greed my african ancestors will never be forgiven as well. This is why everyone should be humble and understand morality and not just think about status, power and money. It isn’t just an inherited system, it’s a morality struggle thinking your neighbor is not equal to you, and not owning up to it.
      Jefferson raped (yes rape, any slave could not reject unwanted sexual advances by their master), Sally Hemings. You may make the argument they may have formed a love interest like Stockholm syndrome. But she later applied for freedom with her children with Jefferson, WITHOUT HIM. She didn’t want him to come. And two of her sisters bore children to white men, as all five siblings were slaves. You’re telling me she wanted that? Seeing the experience of being a slave with its limitless nightmares? So the two other girls wanted it too, presumably? But this is all history and should be forgiven, because they were too 🐱 to realize this was wrong, doing this to RANDOM STRANGERS WHO JUST WANTED TO BE HAPPY. Moving on to Theo Roosevelt.
      He once said “the only good Indian is a dead Indian,”. More specifically, “I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indian is the dead Indian,” he said in 1886, “but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian.” Enough said LMFAO. I’m not tryna cancel these people I’m tryna wake y’all up. These folks didn’t care about anything. They had to be dead inside. Morality births the souls!
      And Abraham Lincoln performed the largest mass hanging in the Dakota War of 1862, which started because white settlers were pushing out the Sioux-Dakota Indians. Broken promises made by the government to give them food and supplies in return of a peaceful exit from their own rightful land happened, and the Indians grew tired of it. The starving group of leader Little Crow in a series of attacks on frontier settlements. This is when the government came and were too slow enough to use their brain for one second, and realized people were dying of starvation they promised them as a land they keep talking to highly about with its opportunities and fairness. They LIED.

  • @skimmer8774
    @skimmer8774 Před 3 lety +20

    Nice job! I was there 50 yrs ago and those gentlemen don't seem to age at all.

  • @susanclark6987
    @susanclark6987 Před 3 lety +13

    I've been there three times in my life... I'm 62 years old I always in awe when I see it ... But I never look at them and think these are flawed men ... It just makes me proud I'm an American... they are part of the history of my country that I love!

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +1

      Amen to that.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +1

      @newagetojo - Did you actually watch the whole video?

    • @kryptic5007
      @kryptic5007 Před 2 lety

      It’s been a year but I hope you see this. They’re more than flawed men. What makes you proud of them? How they were chosen to lead the nation and made morally right laws regarding each other’s safety, how to make a prosperous economy, and anything else that wasn’t hard at all to make up? They wanted a thriving land, not for a short term so these laws weren’t all that. Lincoln’s abolishment was fabricated, he didn’t believe blacks should have the same rights as whites. And the emancipation proclamation applied to states that weren’t in control by the confederacy and border states. He says “ If I could save the union without freeing any slaves I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.”
      How about hold them accountable for the morality bar they set! Let’s go down the list lmao. I know it’s a lot, but I dare you to read it all.
      Washington had dentures made of slave teeth. With him making the point of everyone being “DEEPY FLAWED”, following that up with Washington and Jefferson with people like JFK and MLK, which just shows the blind and unknown bias you all have with the glorification of “history”, which was hundreds of years of imperialism and domination. He says Washington and Jefferson were born and inherited a system, AS PRESIDENTS LMAO, who could’ve changed the sense of morality behind their country.
      Owning people you bought from Another country. The greed my african ancestors will never be forgiven as well. This is why everyone should be humble and understand morality and not just think about status, power and money. It isn’t just an inherited system, it’s a morality struggle thinking your neighbor is not equal to you, and not owning up to it.
      Jefferson raped (yes rape, any slave could not reject unwanted sexual advances by their master), Sally Hemings. You may make the argument they may have formed a love interest like Stockholm syndrome. But she later applied for freedom with her children with Jefferson, WITHOUT HIM. She didn’t want him to come. And two of her sisters bore children to white men, as all five siblings were slaves. You’re telling me she wanted that? Seeing the experience of being a slave with its limitless nightmares? So the two other girls wanted it too, presumably? But this is all history and should be forgiven, because they were too 🐱 to realize this was wrong, doing this to RANDOM STRANGERS WHO JUST WANTED TO BE HAPPY. Moving on to Theo Roosevelt.
      He once said “the only good Indian is a dead Indian,”. More specifically, “I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indian is the dead Indian,” he said in 1886, “but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian.” Enough said LMFAO. I’m not tryna cancel these people I’m tryna wake y’all up. These folks didn’t care about anything. They had to be dead inside. Morality births the souls!
      And Abraham Lincoln performed the largest mass hanging in the Dakota War of 1862, which started because white settlers were pushing out the Sioux-Dakota Indians. Broken promises made by the government to give them food and supplies in return of a peaceful exit from their own rightful land happened, and the Indians grew tired of it. The starving group of leader Little Crow in a series of attacks on frontier settlements. This is when the government came and were too slow enough to use their brain for one second, and realized people were dying of starvation they promised them as a land they keep talking to highly about with its opportunities and fairness. They LIED.

    • @bobyjohnson5718
      @bobyjohnson5718 Před měsícem

      Not flawed men sick men

  • @xvsj5833
    @xvsj5833 Před 3 lety +9

    Ahaha Abraham Lincoln wearing a mask 😷, LoL nice touch. Thank you for sharing your adventure I’ve always wanted to visit this physical piece of history. 👍🚒🚒🚒❤️

  • @theboner1989
    @theboner1989 Před 3 lety +9

    One of my favorite channels on CZcams love your vids keep up the good work

  • @ReneeLove19691961
    @ReneeLove19691961 Před 2 lety +3

    You could not have said it more perfectly what you said about these men and the flaws they had and the flaws all of us have! Perfectly said!!!

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 2 lety

      Appreciate that!

    • @bobyjohnson5718
      @bobyjohnson5718 Před měsícem

      A flaw is a button missing on a shirt. Most people’s flaws don’t involve enslaving and exterminating people. This country is sick defending these people.

  • @martindriver6026
    @martindriver6026 Před 3 lety +10

    Awesome journey, awesome state, awesome men of the USA. Loved it. Thanks for taking me along.
    America love it, or leave it.

  • @emhjr6339
    @emhjr6339 Před 3 lety +3

    Well done.
    My Father took our family there
    in 1977. And I took my youngest
    nephew on a road trip there in
    2012. Good Memories. Thank You.

  • @colejohnson777
    @colejohnson777 Před 3 lety +6

    Great message at the end keep it up!! 😁

  • @rwchidester
    @rwchidester Před 3 lety +6

    Initially I was disappointed in the title of this video. Glad I watched it before commenting. Well said at the end. Great job as usual!

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +3

      Ha! I'm glad that you waited to watch too. I've had a few who didn't take that route lol

  • @tubadude905
    @tubadude905 Před 3 lety +6

    Great Video JD - wize comments on the "flawed" men. Its easy to judge based on changed standards several generations later...

  • @HistoryDose
    @HistoryDose Před 3 lety +2

    Love this conversational, in-person style of telling history. We've actually been thinking of trying a few travel episodes that try to integrate real footage with our existing animation style.

  • @mshuff91266
    @mshuff91266 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. You are exactly right. I very much enjoy your channel. Keep up the great work!

  • @SueProv
    @SueProv Před 3 lety +7

    This reminds me of Hitchcock's movie North by Northwest. Very cool to see the evolution .of the monument. Beautiful conclusion. Thank you.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Big fail on my part for not mentioning North by Northwest. I love that movie. Thanks for the kind words.

  • @michelehurt9258
    @michelehurt9258 Před 3 lety +4

    Great video, great commentary. Keep the videos coming. 🇺🇸

  • @brakel8r
    @brakel8r Před 3 lety +4

    HUMANS....if not for these flawed men....those that complain would not have a country safe enough to complain without fear of being killed. These same people also need to know that only 3% of all slaves were sent to the colonies.... The rest Cuba, Jamaica, central and south America...oh yeah...Canada, the Caribbean. We have learned and moved on in a much better way Thank God there are more good than bad.....by A LOT. love your stuff bro

  • @charlescasey9799
    @charlescasey9799 Před 3 lety +8

    Love the monument visited many times in the hills very impressive at night with lights. If you can find a better country you should move there

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      I need to see it at night. I've heard that it's something else.

    • @TEXCAP
      @TEXCAP Před 3 lety

      Been a few times myself, but never at night. I bet that's really cool. The Black Hills and The Badlands are just as impressive to me too.

  • @rebelstrmtrooper654
    @rebelstrmtrooper654 Před 2 lety

    I live in Sioux Falls, South Dakota and I was at Rushmore last week with my parents. They are in there 70s and have never been there... It was special to spend that time with them 🙂

  • @robertcunningham6476
    @robertcunningham6476 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic once again JD!!!
    You are a difference maker in how you are showing us our history. You make real!
    Thank you!

  • @jeremyc7116
    @jeremyc7116 Před 3 lety

    I completely agree with your Perspective on history that you shared in the last 3 minutes of this video. Knowing that you are Not one of these people who wants to erase our history or try to change it encourages me to watch more of your videos. Keep up the great work

  • @garykorzelius5930
    @garykorzelius5930 Před 3 lety +2

    Beautiful as always. Totally agree with your statements at the end. There was only one perfect man and he walked on water. Amen.

  • @MiJacFan1
    @MiJacFan1 Před 3 lety +1

    Never been, but would be on my bucket list for certain. Whether you like what people did in the past does not constitute erasing it. You need to learn from other people so you don't make the same mistakes. Thanks for yet another place on our great earth for another history lesson.

  • @Carolbearce
    @Carolbearce Před 3 lety +1

    You are so right. We should never stand in judgement of the people of the past. Thank you for your compassion in your videos. I love your excitement with history.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Absolutely!! Thanks for watching.

    • @bobyjohnson5718
      @bobyjohnson5718 Před měsícem

      Yeah forget the murder enslavement and violation of any civil right you can name. Nothing to stand on here

  • @hupego1
    @hupego1 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video as usual!! I went last month and the place is amazing, for me as an immigrant, the place is a Icon for America History, I was impressed with all details and the beautiful view. I really like your explanation with the controversy about the issues involved with this place! Great videos I really enjoyed a lot of them. Thanks

  • @andreguillette6293
    @andreguillette6293 Před 3 lety +2

    I have always wanted to see Mount Rushmore, Thank You for taking me there and so up close and personal.
    I was reminded when you talked about the weathering and sealing the cracks do to water etc. I am from the North East where we were lucky enough to have a mountain sculpture carved by nature, The Old Man of the Mountain , ever since i was 6 months old we traveled past the Old Man multiple times each summer on our way to out mountain camp, Being the first to see the Old Man of the Mountain was a game we played as children , In 2001 i climbed Cannon mountain and was brave enough to go out and stand on his forehead, Just 2 years later the Old Man came crashing down during the early hours of May 3rd 2003 , The main cause was water getting into the cracks and during cold weather the water freezing into ice forcing the cracks to open more and more. I am really glad to see they take action with sealant and sensors to keep on top of the same things that took our Old Man away.
    Again Thank you for the great video and i am looking forward to the next eagerly .

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +1

      Definitely a cool place. Really wish that I could've seen the Old Man before it slipped.

    • @andreguillette6293
      @andreguillette6293 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheHistoryUnderground I went to see the Old Man the day after it fell , some trees 14+ inches round were cut clean off 20 ft up the tree and shards of rocks stuck into the trees like arrow heads but the size of footballs.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Andre Guillette 😳

  • @kylelouiso144
    @kylelouiso144 Před 3 lety +7

    Man I've always really wanted to go there!!!

  • @candicespencer2021
    @candicespencer2021 Před 2 lety

    I have always wanted to go see this in person! Thank you for sharing. I wish I had you as my history teacher when I was in school…. Over 35 years ago😁 I love the way you are passionate about making history come alive .

  • @hargas1974
    @hargas1974 Před 3 lety +1

    Those words you spoke near the end of the video is exactly what needs to be said. We are all imperfect and we all fall short of being "perfect". I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming! Take care and God bless 🙏

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks. I was hoping that it wouldn't come across wrong. Hopefully it's something that people can share out and encourage others with.

    • @hargas1974
      @hargas1974 Před 3 lety +1

      People need to understand times were different 244 years ago. Doesn't mean those men (Washington and Jefferson) didn't do great things and deserve recognition for their work.

  • @reneeschu7792
    @reneeschu7792 Před 3 lety +1

    You are absolutely right about forgiveness of the past. I completely agree with you. I wish more people thought about that way.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. Feel free to share this video out. Maybe we can work together to get people to thinking with a bit more grace :)

  • @denniscleveland1413
    @denniscleveland1413 Před 3 lety +2

    Awesome video... I was wondering where you were going with the “flawed” part but your words at the end are so well said. Very well said...

  • @camdodge9891
    @camdodge9891 Před 3 lety +2

    Another brilliant video and greetings from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @dconn74
    @dconn74 Před 3 lety +1

    Cool. I really enjoy your videos. Thanks for all your effort in putting these together and posting them.

  • @pamelakern2849
    @pamelakern2849 Před 3 lety +1

    Your words were very impactful!! I couldn't agree more !! I loved the closeup view of the sculptures. Another very informative and well made video. 👍👍

  • @johnkelsey2482
    @johnkelsey2482 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent Video and place....Well spoken words also....I want to thank you too for showing the trail....

  • @robbie.205
    @robbie.205 Před 3 lety +1

    Wonderful tour, and well said at the end, couldn't agree more. Thank you.

  • @richardduncan7924
    @richardduncan7924 Před 3 lety +1

    Really enjoyed this video. Thank you for the history lesson and stressing the importance of preserving our Nation's monuments.

  • @travisrector8384
    @travisrector8384 Před 3 lety +1

    Really like what you had to say at the end. Your videos have been a much needed relief from my usual videos that I watch. I am also a fellow traveler and visited Mount Rushmore in 2019 with my family. If your ever in North Carolina, we have a little obscure site near us that isn't visited that much but is the first discovery of gold in the United States. Reed Gold Mine. Might make for a good video. Thanks again for all the great videos.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Oh wow. Thanks for the heads up. I'll jot that down. And thanks for the kind words!

  • @jimscardino2603
    @jimscardino2603 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. I wasn’t going to leave a comment until your final thoughts You nailed it, nobody is perfect but your right the good things people do need to be remembered. 10-4 good buddy

  • @janregterschot7152
    @janregterschot7152 Před 3 lety +1

    Keep up the good work! I really love your programs here on youtube! Greetings from the Netherlands🍻

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Thanks! Really hope to get over to your country at some point.

    • @janregterschot7152
      @janregterschot7152 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheHistoryUnderground we got also a lot of history at our country of WW2. Hope that one day i'll see a next video about it👍👌

  • @chrisjohnson6765
    @chrisjohnson6765 Před 3 lety +1

    Keep up the great work. Your passion serves the community.

  • @Nighthawk1966
    @Nighthawk1966 Před 3 lety +1

    Dude you gotta be living the American dream visiting all these awesome places. Great video !!

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      I've felt pretty fortunate. A lot of these trips are combined with family vacations or business trips, so it all works out.

  • @kellymarieapplebee
    @kellymarieapplebee Před 2 lety +2

    As a person of colour myself, I would think it a total tragedy for any deconstruction to happen to this monument for a whole host of reasons. It’s engineering and artistry is simply breath taking, I hope to see it one day, secondly most people of all backgrounds disagree completely with slavery, human beings don’t all exist in the same era. Like you said humans are flawed, we can grow from past examples of strength and integrity whilst learning from their flaws so as not to repeat them and make better choices for ourselves. Thanks for the video I really enjoy your work!

  • @grahamcarver6836
    @grahamcarver6836 Před 3 lety +2

    Mate loved your comments regarding our History. Whether is the USA or Australia you cannot change it as you said it was the times they lived in. All these people that want to bring down statues & monuments build a bridge & get over it. Keep up the great work..

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks! Appreciate that 👊🏻

    • @bobyjohnson5718
      @bobyjohnson5718 Před měsícem

      If it had been your family you might not be here to make that comment. How would that change your past. These men were sick. People are always die for what someone else considers is right

  • @mrs.g.9816
    @mrs.g.9816 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm glad to have affirmation that I can continue to admire favorite historical figures for the work they did - while knowing of their flaws. I stopped being a cynical, "holier-than-thou" know-it-all shortly after I graduated college. Cynical attitudes aren't worth it. In the meantime, though I'm a senior citizen and you could pass for my son, I have to admit - your videos teach me something new every time! Thanks, man.

  • @Wreckdiver59
    @Wreckdiver59 Před 3 lety +3

    Other than driving by, I've never been. It's on my list. Thanks for the tip about going early. I need to go back and watch some of your other videos from the area. Too many videos, too little time 😉.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Ha! Well don't watch too many at once. That's a whole lot of ugly to be exposing yourself to.

  • @stephenrivera4382
    @stephenrivera4382 Před 3 lety

    Very well done! Thank you! My wife and I are planning to visit Mt. Rushmore and the Crazy Horse Memorial this Fall (2021).👍

  • @irfankhalid9929
    @irfankhalid9929 Před 3 lety +1

    Visited M.R. in summer of '77 during our family trip out west from Ohio. Still have the family pic with my late parents below the carvings. Memories were made, not to be forgetten.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for sharing that. I would imagine that there are a lot of good family memories that have been made there.

  • @nmelkhunter1
    @nmelkhunter1 Před 3 lety +1

    Our only perfection is our imperfection. My Ag teacher told me that when I was in the 11th grade. It’s probably the most true thing I ever heard. You handled all of this video with true class. Well done!

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      I may have to steal that saying. 👍🏻

    • @nmelkhunter1
      @nmelkhunter1 Před 3 lety +1

      The History Underground Please use it as much as you want. It’s true and appropriate for the times were in.

  • @kathyburt9285
    @kathyburt9285 Před 3 lety +1

    Great words at the end! Another great one! Thank you.

  • @bradleycred99
    @bradleycred99 Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing grace! Now there was a flawed man and the author of a powerful song. 🙏🏼

  • @shauntemplar.26
    @shauntemplar.26 Před 3 lety +2

    thank you for all your amazing hard work ... i rate you AAA+

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +1

      Wow, thank you!

    • @shauntemplar.26
      @shauntemplar.26 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheHistoryUnderground I wish it meant more than just what it is. I know I speak for many. We love all your hard work.

  • @jonathantitus2629
    @jonathantitus2629 Před 2 lety

    Your summation is very well-stated. They were indeed imperfect, but they are all still heroes in my eyes. Without proper context we can't understand history. Thanks for sharing your gracious thoughts.
    As far as the monument, I/we might have enjoyed it more IF we had been with you. On both our visits the crowds were just too big which made it hard to enjoy; although the trail was nice as many don't venture beyond the easy viewing areas.

  • @Jerry-fn5nx
    @Jerry-fn5nx Před rokem

    Such a beautiful place. Amazing how they were carved in such detail. Very well said too at the end of the vid. I think our flaws and shortcomings are what makes a leader great. It's how you handle and deal with those flaws while moving forward

  • @mrDCunningham
    @mrDCunningham Před 3 lety +1

    I really loved your thoughts at the end. Well said. 👍🏻😎

  • @benec5816
    @benec5816 Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic tthanks very much love your thoughts and agree its a very hard time we are going through now stay safe and take care thhank you

  • @terrirobinson3876
    @terrirobinson3876 Před 3 lety +1

    OMGosh! Your closing thoughts are exactly what i have been saying for months!

  • @sarahsosa729
    @sarahsosa729 Před 3 lety +1

    You have a very GOOD HEART AND SOUL!! GREAT THOUGHS AT THE END OF VIDEO! GOD BLESS!!

  • @adambatten9679
    @adambatten9679 Před 3 lety +1

    Wonderful strong words at the end. Much respect.

  • @gaylewilliamson9183
    @gaylewilliamson9183 Před 3 lety +1

    Love this video.Thank you.🇺🇸👍💗

  • @BermudaBrian
    @BermudaBrian Před 3 lety

    Great message at the end!

  • @stevem3413
    @stevem3413 Před 3 lety +1

    You ended that with a great piece of advice hopefully some will listen.

  • @mikenixon2401
    @mikenixon2401 Před 3 lety +14

    I'd love to point out the flaws of those unfairly critical of flawed historic figures, but we're not suppose to judge others less we be judge ourselves. Darn.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Ha!

    • @williamdavidnew4719
      @williamdavidnew4719 Před 3 lety

      @@TheHistoryUnderground Mikw Nixon is correct.

    • @j3157
      @j3157 Před 3 lety +1

      The men and women who were thought of and thought highly enough of to have a monument erected in their honor did something to earn that respect or honor. The question for those who love to criticize these people from our past is what have you done that make people create a monument in your name? The answer is most often, if not always is, nothing.

  • @fredohnemus7685
    @fredohnemus7685 Před 3 lety +2

    Well said. Great choice of words.

  • @juniadventures
    @juniadventures Před 2 lety

    Couldn’t agree more ! Great fkn video and words of wisdom

  • @lindseyfw2903
    @lindseyfw2903 Před 3 lety +1

    Just went there today, loved it

  • @atomicspid2129
    @atomicspid2129 Před 3 lety

    I’ve been there many times (every year from 2010-2018). Besides the Presidential Wax Museum, Mt. Rushmore is probably my favorite place to go in Keystone, South Dakota. It’s a breathtaking thing to look at.

  • @tinlizzie
    @tinlizzie Před rokem

    Thank you so very much! You said it all. There are many parts of our history as humans that make us cringe. But, they are part of history. No matter what we do, that history exists and blowing up mountains, removing statues and other steps to try to destroy those parts that some are uncomfortable about, it all still exists. It is, after all, history.

  • @lthom5158
    @lthom5158 Před 3 lety +1

    Well said, sir! Well said! Love the videos!!

  • @brendancripps8890
    @brendancripps8890 Před 3 lety

    Nice job once again, JD. Great camera work as usual! Two quick questions:
    1) What type of records are kept in the hall of records? The second National Treasure movie didn't show it! LOL
    2) What song/music did you use for the intro?

  • @alvinsmith9996
    @alvinsmith9996 Před 3 lety +2

    Money, the death of Borglem and weakness of the surrounding rock were factors in calling Mount Rushmore complete as it is. Jefferson was originally to be to the right of Washington, but the rock was so weak in that area he had to be fitted into his final position. While in that area learn about the Iron Mountain Road and the engineering marvel that it is. I believe there is even a visitors center for it now. If I remember right each of the tunnels on the road were designed to frame Mount Rushmore as you drive through the tunnel in the direction facing the monument.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Oh wow. I need to go back and check that out. Thanks!

    • @alvinsmith9996
      @alvinsmith9996 Před 3 lety

      I really loved that whole area and hope to get back some day. Keep up the informative videos I have enjoyed them. If you are still in that area also check out Chapel In the Hills in Rapid City as well. It is a beautiful exact reproduction of the famous Borgund Stavkirke nordic chapel of Laerdal, Norway.

    • @krobar659
      @krobar659 Před 3 lety

      You are correct about the instability of the mountain. Not sure about running out of money for the project.

  • @jrd2475
    @jrd2475 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video if you ever get heading back east a little town in Illinois call Casey has several world's biggest items they probably have a website you can visit really nice town would make a great addition to your collection videos.

  • @MjrCarnyx
    @MjrCarnyx Před 3 lety +1

    Nice end-speach there ^^ nice video

  • @timothyogden9761
    @timothyogden9761 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you sir for your final thoughts. I have flaws, you have flaws, we ALL have flaws. Endeavoring to do higher things like founding the greatest country in history or saving that same country from its own demise are of the highest of callings. These four men seem to have been sent to us at watershed moments. Each rising to the occasion to raise us ALL. God bless them all...

  • @terrykeever3280
    @terrykeever3280 Před 3 lety +1

    Only one perfect man has walked this earth. The current push to eradicate our history really has like to do with the flaws of our founders, but it is to push us to a totally different way of life in a marxist world straight from Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
    Great video.

  • @cathiez9131
    @cathiez9131 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you! Everyone should remember that things were very different in the past years. We tend to judge our ancestors through the lens of modernity. A big mistake, imho.

    • @kryptic5007
      @kryptic5007 Před 2 lety

      It’s been a year but I hope you see this. “Where things were different? How about hold them accountable for the morality bar they set! Let’s go down the list lmao. I know it’s a lot, but I dare you to read it all. So thinking buying people and making them slaves is the eye of modernity? It was wrong? America conquered the land of the Native Indians forced them out by giving them money and space to live, and used slaves? MORALITY. THEY COULDNT BUILD THE LAND THEMSELVES?
      Washington had dentures made of slave teeth. With him making the point of everyone being “DEEPY FLAWED”, following that up with Washington and Jefferson with people like JFK and MLK, which just shows the blind and unknown bias you all have with the glorification of “history”, which was hundreds of years of imperialism and domination. He says Washington and Jefferson were born and inherited a system, AS PRESIDENTS LMAO, who could’ve changed the sense of morality behind their country.
      Owning people you bought from Another country. The greed my african ancestors will never be forgiven as well. This is why everyone should be humble and understand morality and not just think about status, power and money. It isn’t just an inherited system, it’s a morality struggle thinking your neighbor is not equal to you, and not owning up to it.
      Jefferson raped (yes rape, any slave could not reject unwanted sexual advances by their master), Sally Hemings. You may make the argument they may have formed a love interest like Stockholm syndrome. But she later applied for freedom with her children with Jefferson, WITHOUT HIM. She didn’t want him to come. And two of her sisters bore children to white men, as all five siblings were slaves. You’re telling me she wanted that? Seeing the experience of being a slave with its limitless nightmares? So the two other girls wanted it too, presumably? But this is all history and should be forgiven, because they were too 🐱 to realize this was wrong, doing this to RANDOM STRANGERS WHO JUST WANTED TO BE HAPPY. Moving on to Theo Roosevelt.
      He once said “the only good Indian is a dead Indian,”. More specifically, “I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indian is the dead Indian,” he said in 1886, “but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian.” Enough said LMFAO. I’m not tryna cancel these people I’m tryna wake y’all up. These folks didn’t care about anything. They had to be dead inside. Morality births the souls!
      And Abraham Lincoln performed the largest mass hanging in the Dakota War of 1862, which started because white settlers were pushing out the Sioux-Dakota Indians. Broken promises made by the government to give them food and supplies in return of a peaceful exit from their own rightful land happened, and the Indians grew tired of it. The starving group of leader Little Crow in a series of attacks on frontier settlements. This is when the government came and were too slow enough to use their brain for one second, and realized people were dying of starvation they promised them as a land they keep talking to highly about with its opportunities and fairness. They LIED.

  • @alexc1287
    @alexc1287 Před 2 lety

    Great video!

  • @tommyetaylor
    @tommyetaylor Před 3 lety

    I would have love to have a teacher like you. I’m from Blue Springs, Missouri. Knowing you are also where do you teach? Your students will never no what a good teacher that had till there out of school for several years. I love American history and have a grandson going to school to be a history teacher. Hope he’s as good as you are!

  • @ozziecozzie274
    @ozziecozzie274 Před rokem

    Very well said.

  • @julesotis13
    @julesotis13 Před 2 lety

    thank you! have some grace! good one..thanks for adding that... FORGIVENESS!!!!! - SJOCR

  • @stevehise6207
    @stevehise6207 Před 3 lety +1

    great video. thanks!! Next stop Wall Drug?

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      I actually stayed there while we were in the Badlands. I ended up not filming anything there though. Probably should have spent some more time there to figure something out.

  • @glennwhittaker197
    @glennwhittaker197 Před 3 lety +2

    History Traveler for the next President ✊🏻🇺🇸

  • @billd.iniowa2263
    @billd.iniowa2263 Před 3 lety +2

    Totally agree with your summation. -- I'm glad you mentioned the vault at the top. As I recall it was supposed to contain a copy of the Declaration Of Independence along with other noteworthy things. But for some reason, after it was constructed there was little placed inside. Maybe funding and squabbling over what items to be included? A proper security system would be needed too, requiring perpetual funding. But that was 30 or so years ago. Maybe something has been done by now. Do you know any more about what's in there? -- I shudder to think that 1000 years from now our descendants may open it to find nothing. That would be fitting tho, wouldn't it? Pretty much states what the people of the USA think of history these days, don't it? Too busy watching "reality shows" to bother learning about the realities of the past, or making any reality of our own. Just glued to the tube. Hey, how about we fill that thing with TVs? ;-)

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +1

      Well, hopefully creating these videos and having people share them out is doing a small part to help educate the reality tv crowd :)

  • @mholden25
    @mholden25 Před 3 lety

    Grace. Love that.

  • @Shawnroberts1980
    @Shawnroberts1980 Před 3 lety +1

    Ok man, I need you to sneak into that hall of records. It has to be done....lol.

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety +1

      Don't think that the thought didn't cross my mind several times.

    • @Shawnroberts1980
      @Shawnroberts1980 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheHistoryUnderground FYI.,..I switched banks and didn't realize I didn't update my card on Patreon. I just updated it. Should be good now. Keep up the good work!

    • @TheHistoryUnderground
      @TheHistoryUnderground  Před 3 lety

      Shawn Roberts 🙏🏼

  • @carolhofhine560
    @carolhofhine560 Před rokem

    I've been there 3xs, and I think it should stay. It's a great piece of art history, just like the Crazy Horse Memorial.

  • @daltonbolser5100
    @daltonbolser5100 Před 3 lety +3

    all these people nowadays saying how they would change this and that....until they actually get into that position will they realize “how easy” it is to change things.

  • @sweepsp8468
    @sweepsp8468 Před 2 lety

    If more people were like you the world would be a better place, Its easy to look back and say what is wrong but as you say look what has been achieved.

  • @rolfytumeric6048
    @rolfytumeric6048 Před 2 lety

    Belated thank you

  • @klsc8510
    @klsc8510 Před 2 lety +1

    JD, I saw this in 1983. Flawed men??? We all have flaws. Perfection would mean no carvings. All did great this for the nation. Without them, we wouldn't be the United States of America. What must end is the cancel culture. History, the good the bad, the ugly is all important.

  • @sscinamon
    @sscinamon Před rokem

    Very interesting. I need to go there. Have you been to stone mountain in Georgia. Very interesting place. If not you need to check it out.

  • @corinnerenshaw3621
    @corinnerenshaw3621 Před 3 lety

    Love Lincoln's mask ! What a hoot ! What was the secret room used for ? Or what was kept there?

  • @deborahbrown4975
    @deborahbrown4975 Před 3 lety +2

    Grace and forgiveness

  • @aslooijer
    @aslooijer Před 3 lety +2

    Wise words. And funny too with the mask 😂😂😂

  • @williamrobinson827
    @williamrobinson827 Před rokem

    I agree 100% that we need to show some grace to the people of our past. We all are/were products of our cultures and traditions. It irritates me that there is an element that wants to erase the parts of history that they don't like, that offends them. Frankly, I'm offended by their attitude. We can learn to be better people by learning from ALL of our history!
    By the way, my family visited Mt. Rushmore and the Crazy Horse monument back in the early 1960's. Unfortunately, I don't have any of the pictures we took on that trip. I do recall that Crazy Horse's face was barely distinguishable. I'd love to go back and see both of those monuments again!

  • @concerned1313
    @concerned1313 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for the comment at the end of the culture today verses the acceptable culture back then!

  • @lila6117
    @lila6117 Před 3 lety +1

    Love the pandemic mask joke, we have to try and keep laughter in our lives, great vlog and thank you.