OK, I have a KL and the storage for the grill is under the bed, Also room under there for chairs and tools, I use the pizza oven (more storage above the driver and passenger seats) for table, rug and window shades. The wine celler (the lock box next to galley) I use for all my need to use tools,
We just bought a 59K and love it. It has plenty of storage under the beds for tools, grill, chairs fit over the front cab food and clothes. We don’t ever have to store anything in the halls.
Great Video just forgot a few of the Special K features 😃 You didn’t use any of the pizza oven space, the wine cellar or under the passenger bed. You missed that the beds also have a tilt up system on them for watching TV or reading. The newer twin beds are tiny!! So if you’re a bigger person you’ll definitely want to be making that bed up to the bigger size.
Hi Scott. Nice video. For the garage storage, there are two big compartments under the passenger side bed that would probably hold everything except your guitar.
I thought this would be the van for me but when I looked at one (in late 2019) the showstopper for me was that at 6 ft 2 inches I could not get comfortable in the driver's seat. If I can't drive it I can't buy it! Also had a couple of issues with the sofa beds. I settled on a Coachmen Beyond 22c with Lithium batteries and an induction cooker, and love it.
@@johnyang1420 too cramped for me. The Ford Transit on the other hand felt plenty spacious and after a recent 5,000 mile road trip I can say it was a comfortable drive for me.
This was THE one I came sooo close to buying with the awning windows. Over time, I've been convinced the GL floor plan is what I would buy, had I not bought the Embassy. Then, Winnebago ruined it with that dumb 2022 redesign of the shower floor and dimensions along with other dumb changes. Only a few CZcamsrs go in depth in the smart way you have. Your life on the road full time sure helps others who just may not have such insight. Nice work!🍻
I agree...if I could go back in time, I would have told myself not to jump on the first GL available and have patience to look for a GL NP 2021 after the rush and van prices started to level and decline...but I had to act in the now because I had Scott's tape measure metaphor in the back of my mind!
Embassy is my choice too! No mold, marine grade materials, no black tank, no wood, no propane, no holes in roof & solar panels , optional 960 ah lithium batteries, dual alternators & of course the true 4 season able to withstand at least -14 degree temps according to a CZcams video! 👍 29:06
I love your channel Scott. I like the reviews very much. I think the fact that you cannot really sit back on the beds during the day with out watching out for the cabinets is a deal breaker for me. The galley is too small also. Thanks again!
Hey Scott, thanks for another well thought out and very helpful video. Your hard work and prep are clearly evident in each one. Between the K & G floorplan, I would prefer the G and w/ as much lithium as possible. Insulation would be another important criteria for me. How easily can I get and keep the desired temp. I will say if I had a K floor plan, one of the first things I'd do is move the lagun table mount further down to alleviate the conflict of getting into the freezer. Thankfully, it's an easy fix. I am liking the safety and convenience upgrades in the new Ram chasis. It looks they would add quit a bit to the driver experience. Have a lovely day, Scott.
Hi Scott! I love "Scott Score", can't wait for the next one. I just wish Travato could have one more floor plant option similar to the flex bed in Era 70A.
Hi Sarah. You are mostly right as the older 59K beds id have a chaise lounge lift on the head side of the bed. I verified the 2023 59K does not have that same chaise lounge style head rest.
Hi Scott. Love your videos. We looked over both the GL and the KL and wound up buying the KL last week. It just so much more open, with far more of a panoramic view. The beds are comfortable and very relaxing as you take in the view from the many windows. The GL is very cramped, cut up, and two people can’t really enjoy that tight bed in the back. We keep our chairs and grill under the bed. And we have a Golden Retriever who comes with us. Much more room. We don’t fit in the GL at all. I’d like a bigger refrigerator, but once you do that, you block the fantastic views and cut up the van. Besides, not everybody needs a case of beer in the fridge! 😉 There is also good storage in the back. More than enough for our needs. So yeah, some people need a mobile office, but we like the Travato to relax. So the KL is our choice. But I guess that’s why Winnebago had the sense to make two floor plan choices! 😂💜
So interesting. I have never liked that floor plan, but that’s just my personal taste. My dream van is the Panoramic RV because it has the lounge, like yours and a fixed bed in the rear. Pros on the 59K for me, is the decor and interior storage, tank sizes and true black tank.!!That’s it. Negatives were placement of kitchen, bathroom with wardrobe and icky sink and no garage. Where would one store things like reflectix, chairs, outdoor mat, bbq, electric cable, water and sewer hoses. I couldn’t use it.
There is some long storage in the passenger bed compartment, and some cubbies on the side of the wardrobe in the bathroom that faces out for hanging hoses and such. Some storage in the pizza oven area also. He didn't show all the storage areas.
You had the “other” person up against the counter. Put that person at the other end of the table. You would then be on the opposite end of the table on your side. Would that not work?
I love your videos. This one is no different. You were very generous in your scoring and I understand since the K Travato is the best selling class B. I would like to have seen what's involved to set up the single large bed system. It looks like you need to add a separate score for ergonomics/well thought out design. You pointed out several issues, but they seemed to largely get a pass in your existing scoring scheme. IE: feet don't touch the floor when sitting on either bed, table and tv are poorly located, no garage storage area, bathroom is not enclosed, one must bend over or kneel to use the frig or microwave, poor bathroom sink design, and insufficient headroom when sitting on beds. Any one of these issues would make the K a non-starter for us.
Exactly what I was going to say, we keep our tool box, 2 Helinox chairs, 1 helinox side table, a Coleman bbq in storage bag, and misc stuff from the trip. It will also hold our table leg and 15x30 table we are in the process of making. Also you missed the tablet/book/glasses net on the wall side at the top of each bed. And all the light gained by the shower being at the back. Lastly, this layout allows for a deeper kitchen which means we have a real oven/micro and the fridge is excellent with the increased depth. I do appreciate that you pointed out the challenge of the Lagun mount in opening the fridge door. We keep our beds made but the bedcover is nice aesthetically and we almost never watch tv but if we want to, we use the swivel chairs as they are so comfortable.
Hmmm... It doesn't look like you can actually sit on those sofas/beds bc you'll keep hitting your head on the upper cabinets. While the open layout is great, I think that is a non-started for me. Thanks for another great video Scott.
I really like this video. I think your criteria makes a lot of sense. I think this a very practical guide for anyone wanting to buy a van. I have a 19 KL. I can see some of the changes are really great, and some are not so great. The one thing I can tell you is that you cannot see inside the van from the back window. Trust me. I tried to take a picture of my partner in the potty. (Not sure what that says about me.😮) Also, I know you have a G and you travel alone. I think that makes a lot of sense. I would do a G if I was traveling solo. However, with a partner the K is a good fit. And you just have a to adjust to living in your space together. Good work! Keep up the good work.
Another excellent video Scott, thanks! Super helpful and informative. Do you plan on doing one of these rating videos for the Solis PX anytime soon? That’d be wonderful if so!
I believe there is storage under the beds or one of them. Not convenient, but I have seen some vids doing lithium upgrades and they use that area I think.
K is nice but 59GL all the way. One big bedroom lol. I test drove a 2022 GL today and it was so smooth and quiet. Kinda felt like a car. Still deciding if I should buy one and be like Scott ;)
I've seen a couple of posts showing the plastic piece across cab opening coming loose in the new models. Disappointing to see that in a Travato. Points off for quality control. Guess that wasn't the case in the one you were reviewing. Elbow room on toilet very important, thanks for focusing on that.
Nice job Scott...but I would have only given the KL a Mesa Mike score of 83...GL forever!! Are you going to do a Scott score on your own van? And the new GL...I would give your version of the GL a 97...and the NP GL would be my benchmark of a 99 score van.
I like the open floor plan. Would it be possible to have a sofa/bed instead of a bed with cushions against the wall? I have seen a sofa/bed in another brand. That was 1 sofa not 2. They don't look comfortable. Maybe when you're not too busy you could do a few Scott Score rear bath twin bed models or twin beds side bath. A side by side comparison would make a great video and be very helpful.
@@BrittMFH I'm sorry I'm not getting your response fully. Why isn't an option? Do you have any better design ideas? Anyone can answer and that would be helpful.
I'm still waiting for the Thor Sequence 20K .. 1 twin that opens to a full... A fridge with a freezer and door, and basically the same wet bath situation.
@@zynzane9680 I thought I was getting a generator and 2 AGM batteries. I got the generator but it Has lithium batteries! Hopefully the best of both worlds
the fridge arrive 7/19 so it should be ready soon... however... 1am 7/18, I ended up on the floor, not really sure what happened, but LSS, I couldn't get up... for 11 hrs before someone rescued me... so I'm kinda thinking that was a very stern warning to CANCEL! I'll get everything fixed on my class C 21QB & then decide what to do going forward. The RV dealer has my RV since May... hopefully they can do all the repairs, if not I'll get it to another repair shop that I know can do all the work... whoever does the best by me for my C may get the B sale next year if I recover & can travel again.
I want to like the KL but I couldn’t help but notice that in no where you sat did you look comfortable. Even the beds don’t incline in the new bed. I was shocked to see the back of your head bumping the cabinets. Pity they added dividers in the overhead cabinets as in the older models you could fit longer items like chairs or golf clubs in there. Seems like you have to move or rearrange something constantly in contrast to the GL.
thanks Mike for sharing from your personal RV experience. However, that floor plan is the best selling for many reasons. Appreciate you wathcing and commenting
Mostly a 3 season, especially my 2019 Travato. newer units more tilt towards 4 season , but waste tank outside van interior = tank warmer needed relegating to plug-in shore-power to run tank warmers
Hi Scott, great video. So, if you were buying a new van with current floorplans, which would you buy, 59GL, or 59KL? Or, would you look for a gently used 59GL with your floorplan?
Hey… I in your fine State of WI :) I would buy a gently used Travato 59GL National Park Edition … no one else makes a floor plan close to what I have for my needs.. Opportunity for a builder to step up.
Hey Scott. Where did you get your lift on your Travago GL? I'm in Houston Texas so would prefer somewhere fairly close if you have any recommendations.
I like your approach but I think you are being too generous with your points. I just started watching but the first two things that were scored were the clearance, and even though the clearance was just at the minimum you specified on your sheet (7 inches), you still gave 2 points. Should be 1 point, otherwise what is the minimum even for? Anything below 7 should be 0, and 2 and 3 points should be reserved for "good" clearance (certainly more than 7 inches) and "great" clearance (12+ inches) respectively. Next, the dining experience was terrible but you still gave 2 points! Why not give just 1? If there was no dining possible it should score 0; and 1 should be for the bare minimum functionality, which is what they have provided with this coach. I haven't finished the video but at this rate of inflated points, it doesn't surprise me that it scored 90! 3 points for the 12 pack even though it couldn't fit standing up. Why? I think just about any fridge in existence will let you shove a 12 pack in if that's all you're storing. What's the point of a scale of 0 - 3 points if it's really 0 (can't do it) or 3 (can do it)? Not trying to be overly critical here, just trying to provide some feedback. You've come up with a great system for rating RVs, I just think that you need to be more scientific in how you award points so that the scores can be meaningful. I re-scored without giving full points just for meeting bare minimums, and I got a total score of 72, which I think is much closer to realistic for this coach.
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OK, I have a KL and the storage for the grill is under the bed, Also room under there for chairs and tools, I use the pizza oven (more storage above the driver and passenger seats) for table, rug and window shades. The wine celler (the lock box next to galley) I use for all my need to use tools,
Superb! Thx Pam
You use a pizza oven to store a table, rug and window shades????
We just bought a 59K and love it. It has plenty of storage under the beds for tools, grill, chairs fit over the front cab food and clothes. We don’t ever have to store anything in the halls.
Great Video just forgot a few of the Special K features 😃
You didn’t use any of the pizza oven space, the wine cellar or under the passenger bed. You missed that the beds also have a tilt up system on them for watching TV or reading. The newer twin beds are tiny!! So if you’re a bigger person you’ll definitely want to be making that bed up to the bigger size.
No tilt up on 2022
Oh man that’s a drag!! I use that every time!!
Thx for your input Robyn
Hi Scott. Nice video. For the garage storage, there are two big compartments under the passenger side bed that would probably hold everything except your guitar.
Perfect. Thx Alfred !
I thought this would be the van for me but when I looked at one (in late 2019) the showstopper for me was that at 6 ft 2 inches I could not get comfortable in the driver's seat. If I can't drive it I can't buy it! Also had a couple of issues with the sofa beds. I settled on a Coachmen Beyond 22c with Lithium batteries and an induction cooker, and love it.
Why was drivers seat not comfortable?
@@johnyang1420 too cramped for me. The Ford Transit on the other hand felt plenty spacious and after a recent 5,000 mile road trip I can say it was a comfortable drive for me.
congrats on your Beyond 22C
I would love a Scott Score on the Solis 59PX! 90 for the Travato K is impressive though!
Yes! I would be interested as well.
coming soon !
Great job Scott! One area you might consider evaluating is the driving experience or at a minimum the Chassis vs Coach portion of the Van.
Hmmmmmmmm
This was THE one I came sooo close to buying with the awning windows. Over time, I've been convinced the GL floor plan is what I would buy, had I not bought the Embassy. Then, Winnebago ruined it with that dumb 2022 redesign of the shower floor and dimensions along with other dumb changes. Only a few CZcamsrs go in depth in the smart way you have. Your life on the road full time sure helps others who just may not have such insight. Nice work!🍻
Appreciate your input Van Liberty
I agree...if I could go back in time, I would have told myself not to jump on the first GL available and have patience to look for a GL NP 2021 after the rush and van prices started to level and decline...but I had to act in the now because I had Scott's tape measure metaphor in the back of my mind!
Embassy is my choice too! No mold, marine grade materials, no black tank, no wood, no propane, no holes in roof & solar panels , optional 960 ah lithium batteries, dual alternators & of course the true 4 season able to withstand at least -14 degree temps according to a CZcams video! 👍 29:06
I love your channel Scott. I like the reviews very much. I think the fact that you cannot really sit back on the beds during the day with out watching out for the cabinets is a deal breaker for me. The galley is too small also. Thanks again!
Grest job, there is lot of storage under mattresses too...
Thank you !
One criteria we added was a third seatbelt for the grandchild/bestie. Really sealed the deal.
Great addition !
Storage under the passenger bed too.
Yes, thx
Good job! I hope you are planning on doing this for the Embassy vans. 😉
Yes, Liz. On the list
Hey Scott, thanks for another well thought out and very helpful video. Your hard work and prep are clearly evident in each one. Between the K & G floorplan, I would prefer the G and w/ as much lithium as possible. Insulation would be another important criteria for me. How easily can I get and keep the desired temp. I will say if I had a K floor plan, one of the first things I'd do is move the lagun table mount further down to alleviate the conflict of getting into the freezer. Thankfully, it's an easy fix. I am liking the safety and convenience upgrades in the new Ram chasis. It looks they would add quit a bit to the driver experience. Have a lovely day, Scott.
Hi Stormy. Many thanks for your nice comments.
Would love to see the same comparison with the Thor Sequence with same floor plan. Thanks Scott love your videos.
Great suggestion!
This is the most useful review format I've ever seen. Thanks Scott!
Glad you enjoy it … :)
Hi Scott! I love "Scott Score", can't wait for the next one. I just wish Travato could have one more floor plant option similar to the flex bed in Era 70A.
Interesting idea R P
On the 59K or KL you can elevate the heads of each bed for TV viewing. That helps.
Hi Sarah. You are mostly right as the older 59K beds id have a chaise lounge lift on the head side of the bed. I verified the 2023 59K does not have that same chaise lounge style head rest.
No head lift, that's a bummer.
Hi Scott. Love your videos. We looked over both the GL and the KL and wound up buying the KL last week. It just so much more open, with far more of a panoramic view. The beds are comfortable and very relaxing as you take in the view from the many windows. The GL is very cramped, cut up, and two people can’t really enjoy that tight bed in the back. We keep our chairs and grill under the bed. And we have a Golden Retriever who comes with us. Much more room. We don’t fit in the GL at all. I’d like a bigger refrigerator, but once you do that, you block the fantastic views and cut up the van. Besides, not everybody needs a case of beer in the fridge! 😉 There is also good storage in the back. More than enough for our needs.
So yeah, some people need a mobile office, but we like the Travato to relax. So the KL is our choice. But I guess that’s why Winnebago had the sense to make two floor plan choices!
😂💜
Congrats on your KL Linda !!!
So interesting. I have never liked that floor plan, but that’s just my personal taste.
My dream van is the Panoramic RV because it has the lounge, like yours and a fixed bed in the rear.
Pros on the 59K for me, is the decor and interior storage, tank sizes and true black tank.!!That’s it.
Negatives were placement of kitchen, bathroom with wardrobe and icky sink and no garage. Where would one store things like reflectix, chairs, outdoor mat, bbq, electric cable, water and sewer hoses. I couldn’t use it.
I LOVE the Panoramic RV. I would have bought one but the wait was long to get one and the lithium isn't as big as the Travato.
Agree!
Thank you Esther !
There is some long storage in the passenger bed compartment, and some cubbies on the side of the wardrobe in the bathroom that faces out for hanging hoses and such. Some storage in the pizza oven area also. He didn't show all the storage areas.
You should do a Scott score on the new 59GL and compare it to your current van
Hi Seth. Cool idea. Have you seen this video I did, Urban Van Camping in Small Town, GA, czcams.com/video/2lh1bNdZHNM/video.html
Love your evaluation systems... I watch them all
Thanks for that !
Switch the place settings on the table!
Not sure what you mean
You had the “other” person up against the counter. Put that person at the other end of the table. You would then be on the opposite end of the table on your side. Would that not work?
I love your videos. This one is no different. You were very generous in your scoring and I understand since the K Travato is the best selling class B. I would like to have seen what's involved to set up the single large bed system. It looks like you need to add a separate score for ergonomics/well thought out design. You pointed out several issues, but they seemed to largely get a pass in your existing scoring scheme. IE: feet don't touch the floor when sitting on either bed, table and tv are poorly located, no garage storage area, bathroom is not enclosed, one must bend over or kneel to use the frig or microwave, poor bathroom sink design, and insufficient headroom when sitting on beds. Any one of these issues would make the K a non-starter for us.
Thanks for sharing
Exactly what I was going to say, we keep our tool box, 2 Helinox chairs, 1 helinox side table, a Coleman bbq in storage bag, and misc stuff from the trip. It will also hold our table leg and 15x30 table we are in the process of making. Also you missed the tablet/book/glasses net on the wall side at the top of each bed. And all the light gained by the shower being at the back. Lastly, this layout allows for a deeper kitchen which means we have a real oven/micro and the fridge is excellent with the increased depth. I do appreciate that you pointed out the challenge of the Lagun mount in opening the fridge door. We keep our beds made but the bedcover is nice aesthetically and we almost never watch tv but if we want to, we use the swivel chairs as they are so comfortable.
Hmmm... It doesn't look like you can actually sit on those sofas/beds bc you'll keep hitting your head on the upper cabinets. While the open layout is great, I think that is a non-started for me. Thanks for another great video Scott.
Hi Bob
We love our 2022 KL!
So awesome Steve !
There's all sorts of storage under the bed.
I really like this video. I think your criteria makes a lot of sense. I think this a very practical guide for anyone wanting to buy a van. I have a 19 KL. I can see some of the changes are really great, and some are not so great. The one thing I can tell you is that you cannot see inside the van from the back window. Trust me. I tried to take a picture of my partner in the potty. (Not sure what that says about me.😮)
Also, I know you have a G and you travel alone. I think that makes a lot of sense. I would do a G if I was traveling solo. However, with a partner the K is a good fit. And you just have a to adjust to living in your space together. Good work! Keep up the good work.
Thanks Brent for you comments sir
We did the test too and agree
thank you for this review. It's helpful and practical!
Very good, Bri :)
Another excellent video Scott, thanks! Super helpful and informative. Do you plan on doing one of these rating videos for the Solis PX anytime soon? That’d be wonderful if so!
59PX with Scott Score coming soon
We love our 59K for weekend trips. However, it does not check all the boxes for longer trips.
Well said Kim.. Hi to Mr. T :)
Smart scoring. Waking up and looking out the back ( not through the toilet) rates highly for me. But I’m not a scientist like your good self.
Sleeping in moon light beaming in through back door windows is such magic for me. Thx for your input
I believe there is storage under the beds or one of them. Not convenient, but I have seen some vids doing lithium upgrades and they use that area I think.
thx Scratch
K is nice but 59GL all the way. One big bedroom lol. I test drove a 2022 GL today and it was so smooth and quiet. Kinda felt like a car. Still deciding if I should buy one and be like Scott ;)
Be like Scott. Your GL will change your life, like it did for Scott ;)
I've seen a couple of posts showing the plastic piece across cab opening coming loose in the new models. Disappointing to see that in a Travato. Points off for quality control. Guess that wasn't the case in the one you were reviewing. Elbow room on toilet very important, thanks for focusing on that.
Thx Z Z
Enjoyed this.
Hi Carol. Glad you liked!
Nice job Scott...but I would have only given the KL a Mesa Mike score of 83...GL forever!! Are you going to do a Scott score on your own van? And the new GL...I would give your version of the GL a 97...and the NP GL would be my benchmark of a 99 score van.
You have a point sir…. GL forever ;)
I like the open floor plan. Would it be possible to have a sofa/bed instead of a bed with cushions against the wall? I have seen a sofa/bed in another brand. That was 1 sofa not 2.
They don't look comfortable. Maybe when you're not too busy you could do a few Scott Score rear bath twin bed models or twin beds side bath. A side by side comparison would make a great video and be very helpful.
thanks !
Nope, not an option unless they make them that way (they do not).
@@BrittMFH I'm sorry I'm not getting your response fully. Why isn't an option?
Do you have any better design ideas? Anyone can answer and that would be helpful.
I'm still waiting for the Thor Sequence 20K .. 1 twin that opens to a full... A fridge with a freezer and door, and basically the same wet bath situation.
The perfect floor plan, just needs to be a higher quality build and get the lithium game together.
@@zynzane9680 I thought I was getting a generator and 2 AGM batteries. I got the generator but it Has lithium batteries! Hopefully the best of both worlds
Hopefylly I can find one on a dealer lot that they will give me 2+ hours access to the van for the Scott Score vidoe
the fridge arrive 7/19 so it should be ready soon... however... 1am 7/18, I ended up on the floor, not really sure what happened, but LSS, I couldn't get up... for 11 hrs before someone rescued me... so I'm kinda thinking that was a very stern warning to CANCEL! I'll get everything fixed on my class C 21QB & then decide what to do going forward. The RV dealer has my RV since May... hopefully they can do all the repairs, if not I'll get it to another repair shop that I know can do all the work... whoever does the best by me for my C may get the B sale next year if I recover & can travel again.
Would love to see this compared to the Thor tellaro 20L
I want to like the KL but I couldn’t help but notice that in no where you sat did you look comfortable. Even the beds don’t incline in the new bed. I was shocked to see the back of your head bumping the cabinets. Pity they added dividers in the overhead cabinets as in the older models you could fit longer items like chairs or golf clubs in there. Seems like you have to move or rearrange something constantly in contrast to the GL.
Great observations Stephen
Thanks!
Yes !
That floor plan is awful for sheer fact of that bathroom. Honestly two separate beds is pointless also for adults.
thanks Mike for sharing from your personal RV experience. However, that floor plan is the best selling for many reasons. Appreciate you wathcing and commenting
Do you consider the Travato a 3 or 4 season van?
Mostly a 3 season, especially my 2019 Travato. newer units more tilt towards 4 season , but waste tank outside van interior = tank warmer needed relegating to plug-in shore-power to run tank warmers
Why are the beds/sofas so tall?
Hmmm
Makes them more comfy to sleep on?
Hi Scott, great video. So, if you were buying a new van with current floorplans, which would you buy, 59GL, or 59KL? Or, would you look for a gently used 59GL with your floorplan?
He has said in the past he would look for a National Parks Model with same floor plan as he has now. The NP model has one more battery.
Hey… I in your fine State of WI :) I would buy a gently used Travato 59GL National Park Edition … no one else makes a floor plan close to what I have for my needs.. Opportunity for a builder to step up.
@@gosmall.livelarge I told him this lol lol see someone is listening to you 😂
Hey Scott. Where did you get your lift on your Travago GL? I'm in Houston Texas so would prefer somewhere fairly close if you have any recommendations.
Check out Off Highway Van. Based out of Salt Lake City, but have a number approved upfitters across USA
I like your approach but I think you are being too generous with your points. I just started watching but the first two things that were scored were the clearance, and even though the clearance was just at the minimum you specified on your sheet (7 inches), you still gave 2 points. Should be 1 point, otherwise what is the minimum even for? Anything below 7 should be 0, and 2 and 3 points should be reserved for "good" clearance (certainly more than 7 inches) and "great" clearance (12+ inches) respectively.
Next, the dining experience was terrible but you still gave 2 points! Why not give just 1? If there was no dining possible it should score 0; and 1 should be for the bare minimum functionality, which is what they have provided with this coach.
I haven't finished the video but at this rate of inflated points, it doesn't surprise me that it scored 90!
3 points for the 12 pack even though it couldn't fit standing up. Why? I think just about any fridge in existence will let you shove a 12 pack in if that's all you're storing. What's the point of a scale of 0 - 3 points if it's really 0 (can't do it) or 3 (can do it)?
Not trying to be overly critical here, just trying to provide some feedback. You've come up with a great system for rating RVs, I just think that you need to be more scientific in how you award points so that the scores can be meaningful.
I re-scored without giving full points just for meeting bare minimums, and I got a total score of 72, which I think is much closer to realistic for this coach.
Good observations. That is why there is the Scott Score and then you score on your criteria. the 59K is doable, but it doesn’t work for me personally
Really don't like that layout.
good to know
Frig is a fail.
Weird that it would not open fully to access freezer with the table leg deployed
No .. it is not a good value. Get a used one in a year to get a goof value.
Hi Ergin !