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0:00 Intro
0:25 ANNOUNCEMENT!
0:41 Geometry
1:43 Strength
2:56 Accuracy
3:41 Throughput
4:42 Part Packing
5:24 Reliability
6:20 Safety
7:30 Outro - Věda a technologie
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this is it, selling my small cnc and getting this😂
Come to ERRF/Printopia!
Hey if you need any small youtubers who is an automotive engineer and starting the first of 2 planned 3d printing companies, let me know and I'll take a beta tester as well 🤞
Do you guys plan to open source any part of your software/hardware stack?
hi, for interest sake, how much to ship a system to South Africa? i may have backers. i do S.T.E.A.M. workshops for high schoolers. and being able to print strong parts designed by them would be awesome. And no, I would not be printing other people's design's without permission. We design our own stuff.
That McMaster segment is like those warnings on grape concentrates during prohibition, warning you what not to do so said grapes don't become wine lol
You wouldn't download a car!
@@Dryesiaslol. I might download a car.
@@ml.2770 I would 100% download a car, was referring to the hilarious anti-piracy campaign back in the 2000s
@@Dryesias I know. I got it.
I love how he said it with no sarcastic tone because he knew the sarcasm lies within the fact that he mentioned this "feature" in the first place.
The fact that he totally looks like an unprofessional advertiser, but more like a engineering nerd, makes him way more trustworthy and relatable to me.
I think he is
Going for that early days Linus Tech Tips vibe
Womp.
This aged well lol
If its everything like advertised, Micronics will disrupt the AM market. Crossed fingers that micronics won't be swallowed by bigger company and close it existence like it happened with WeMatter or Sintratec recently...
Not really , sls powder is expensive e.g sinterit PA12 is 300 USD for 2 kg.
Micronics doesn't mention the powder cost in any of their videos so I am assuming it's expensive.
They list it on their website, $300 per 5.3 liters
Listed density is .47 so it's about 2.5kg for $300. I don't think it has anything to do with them tho, the powder is just expensive
@@mecheng84 Yeah I'd rather stick to buying an expensive 3d printer and using $25 filament that will produce 10's of products, than spend $300 to produce just a few products. I'm actually glad someone brought this up because this now turns it from your average "desktop" sls printer, to, "you still need a second job if you want to print often" sls printer.
It wont, and most printer kickstarter printers are a overall fail. Thing is PBF printers (both inkjet style and SLS) have been around for a decades on the corporate level. They are a absolute nightmare to work with because of the clean up and post processing and this one will be no different in that department.
This is an impressively honest Kickstarter pitch! Few would be so brave to show the limitations and drawbacks of their product while advertising it but that's incredibly refreshing
But they are still trying to hide reviewer issues. Watch Strange Parts review video... not the most honest company.
I havent been this excited for a 3D printer launch in a long time. Here's hoping the device lives up to the hype, I would love to see this succeed and drive ongoing innovation into home SLS!
Same here. It felt like the guy was talking directly to me and all my woes of dealing with resin printers to try to do printed part prototyping. I have a project that I had put on a shelf because I got sick of trying to navigate all the problems it has with resin.
Some people are saying it costs $100s of dollars for the powder... and $3000 for a 3d printer is just too expensive for 99.9% of people. Some people are looking into printing with the plastic pellets instead of filament, because the pellets are about 1/4 the cost.
@@deucedeuce1572 I agree that the cost of the device and SLS powder, typically expensive exingeering materials like Nylon-12, is high. However, SLS technology has long been completely out of reach for anyone except the ultra wealthy or manufacturing companies, with machines costing over $10K USD, not including secondary requirements like 240V power and post-processing setups.
Remember, FDM printing was once costly and required significant technical expertise. Today, decent FDM printers are available for $500 USD or less, with minimal setup. An Ender 3 V3 SE, for example, can often be found on sale for under $200 USD and is suitable for beginners.
This affordability came through economies of scale and competition. Similarly, SLS printing will become accessible for home use if a hobbyist-friendly machine succeeds, spurring further innovation and competition.
Is this new printer for everyone? No. It's a cutting-edge, hobbyist/small print farm device likely to have many issues. Widespread use will identify these issues, leading to improved second-generation models, and hopefully inspiring competitors to make their own devices, driving costs for consumers down.
In 5-10 years, we might see SLS printers for home use costing $500 USD with much more affordable materials as manufacturers are forced to scale up production to meet demand. I see this device as a potential first step towards that future 😁
my man dont back the kickstarter till it releases, too many Kickstarter projects are scams.
If you read the next sentence in the McMaster paragraph it actually says you're allowed to print them in order to determine if you want to buy them from McMaster. So you SHOULD print anything you order from them first, just to make sure it's the correct fit.
That joke went way over your head. Way, way over.
@@imowgrass I understand the sarcasm, but it only makes sense as a joke if they don't explicitly tell you that it's allowed
None of that AI jazz? How will you survive in 2024 😂😂😂
Seriously though, amazing job
By not telling our customers to eat rock.
Technically, they could still call it AI if they wanted, even if it didn't actually use any machine learning approaches. "AI" in appliances is just a buzzword used by marketers to refer to some form of unconventional automation and does not refer to any specific technology.
I love that this tech is getting closer to being truly available to the consumer market, though the price is still a bit high for the casual hobbyist. Best of luck.
What is the price of it? I never saw it listed
@@robertdiehl4384 $2999 starting price; it's in the description.
@@robertdiehl4384 3 grand, not at all bad for those running print farms or have friends willing chip in for one. If I got 3 grand to drop on this I'd get a freeze dryer instead but yeah amazing price, wonder how much early bird pricing will drop it down by.
@@robertdiehl4384$3,000. Their closest competitor is probably formlabs coming in around $20,000
@@robertdiehl4384 Around 3000$ if the discription can be trusted. A lot cheaper compared to the current market (20000+). Still to much for home use.
2:10 Sneaky inclusion of the printed panel cover. Nice.
Yesss!! I've been waiting for this video, your first video had me itching to get one of these.
Your design is really creative and it's clear you guys have the quality of the machine front and center.
a video editing master class. I almost forgot I was watching an advertisement for your new printer. This thing seems AWESOME!
5 reasons not to - expense, dust inhalation, dust everywhere, risk of fire, risk of explosions.
PLEASE get in contact with Headmade Materials/ Cold Metal Fusion. It would be SO awesome to be able to print metal green parts on this inexpensive machine.
Cool, but this price point is industrial.
Hey man great video! I like the assurance over health and safety and the acknowledgement and use of feedback from the community
I was already in love with this project from the first video, but seeing you take pride in the handwritten control logic and not shoving AI slop in the firmware somehow is the cherry on top and how I know this machine will be freaking awesome.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏Bra-freaking-vo man. This was the best demo video I’ve ever seen. I was honestly skeptical before but the honesty goes light years with our community.
God I WISH I had 3 grands to drop on it. It's a steal at that price, but not only do I not have the need for it, I don't have the space to operate it either.
But OMG I want one so bad.
I really wish I had the money for this, because I do have a need for this. And can move stuff in my workshop to set this up. it will replace so many tools.
I'm Really excited about this! I hope you've taken steps to navigate the existing patents in SLS printing.
Excellent work on the humor. Wish I had the space for this...hopefully soon
Awesome! I am so excited and can't wait for the kickstarter.
You actually listened to feedback from the community as well??!!
I'm definitely saving up to buy one of these for concept models!!
I love this video. Just the right level of authenticity. Perfect!
Excellent news, and truly amazing to see this concept develop into reality. Well done all you folks at Micronics… I’d love one of these.
This video is hilarious and very informative. Y'all are killin' it. I really hope this thing lives up to the hype. If I had lots of spare money, I'd be in.
Dude once the cost gets cheaper than resin printing, say $40 per Kg of a good powder like Nylon 12, we’re all in. You’ve done such great work so far so I’ll believe you if you say you’ll get it done.
I think it'll blow resin printing out the water, tbh.
@@NigelTolley No, it won't until enter and running prices get close to resin, not to mention it gets rid of that horrific porus finish. it looks good for profesional mechanical parts but not for wide consumer market... yet
@@grim3897 As someone who uses resin to achieve fine detail on decorative prints, that detail and part finish are the most important things.
I'll gladly switch to a sufficiently competitive technology if it means I can do away with the hazardous material/waste management and mess inherent to resin printing and processing.
It's exciting to see the tech progress and the cost come down. I love my resin printer but no supports is a game changer. They need to somehow get the resolution down to a super fine level before it'll replace resin printing. He said it's great for minis and stuff, but ignores the obvious granular texture.
You know why the powder is so expensive? The nylon they use to make it is cheap... very cheap. (Like even glass filled nylon is only a couple bucks a kg if you buy the pellets.
This is exciting! Would love to see more examples of miniatures printed at 35mm scale and below.
Really exciting stuff! I'll probably be sticking to FDM for the time being for various reasons, but I'm excited to see what this thing can do once it's out in the wild
Wow, I am excited to try this new technology!
Dangit Micronics, I hate you guys because of how much you're tempting me. Not only do you bring SLS printing to the hobby space for a very affordable price, you just had to go ahead and add some impressive features to improve reliability and safety.
I want one of these so bad but I literally have nowhere in my home (or outside of my home) to run it. If I had more space, I'd be jumping in on the Kickstarter the second it goes live...
Affordable? The required "filament" powder is super expensive.
@@DDryTaste true, but unlike FDM and resin, no supports needed and the excess gets reused. so much less waste. And offering quality parts to your clients will make them more likely to pay more.
@@DDryTaste Yeah, that's definitely true, however this isn't unique to this printer, so we can't blame Micronics for that. It's also likely that we might see lower prices as more consumer SLS printers hit the market.
This also might be a way to manage FDM printing waste:
Collect like plastics (e.g. PLA) in bulk, shred them and pulverize them in a ball mill after. While it won't be as high quality as specially made SLS media, it certainly will work and offer a broader range of recycling options and potentially lower consumer costs.
@@MrGerhardGrobler Yeah I'm sorry but it is more then 10x the price per kg and I am pretty sure you won't even use 2x the filament to support a fdm printed part. It would get a lot more enticing if they manage to get down the price of the powder.
What kind of powder materials is this machine capable of printing? Would it be possible to upgrade parts to handle more higher temp materials?
Product looks good. Keep going guys!
How does the material cost compare to traditional FDM printed parts for example a PA-CF benchy printed at 100% would take about 16.9g of filament an cost about $1.35 in material. How much would that same benchy cost made out of the nylon 12 powder you have on your website?
June 13th I’m so excited, I’m so excited to get mine delivered to Kuwait
Hope the kickstarter is a smashing success. 😊
It crazy that we are getting this kind of technology at home already!!! I might be able to get this one but will be trying to get the next one . Hope you guys knock it out of the park
Best of luck, I hope you go far. Game-changing if this takes off.
You’re releasing on my birthday, awesome! 🥳
I really like the perks associated with SLS but that finish dosn't look super great for miniatures. A ton of grain compared to resin SLA, is this a resolution issue or a powder issue?
it's entirely possible seeing how atrociously unoptimized that FDM printed dragon came out, he must have printed it on a 0.6 nozzle
Definitely interested in version 2 of this tech, the detail definition just isn’t quite there yet but looks really promising. I wonder if finer powder grain would help
Absolutely amazing piece of machinery. I'm looking into these machines for the producton of molecular biology lab equipment, and I'm really interested in the possibility of creating fully autoclavable parts. I have, however, not come across any information on whether this printer is able to print such plastics such as polypropylene. Is this something that would be possible? Please take note, I have very limited experience with 3d printing in general, and any information would help alot!!
I'm mostly curious how good this is at creating smooth, flat surfaces. The finish makes the surface look a bit rough?
Can this print smooth surfaces? Everything looks grainy.
Very impressive! Interested to know about any testing youve done with re-cycled powders and what ratios of new to used powder yield usable parts. Im very sure your kickstarter will be a standout success, if i can convince myself to spend the money I would definitely love to grab one!
Awesome work. This is a game changer. If you were to fill the build box with parts, how long would it take to print them all?
200mm/67mm hours with 0.15mm layer height. And 200mm/15mm hours with 0.1mm. Maybe a bit longer
at 4:01 it says 25hs and 2:30hs for cooldown
Works out to 50s/layer
This thing is going to be over 3k
hold up... what's wrong with printing mcmastercarr parts? as long as you're not using them for commercial use, it should be fine?
Question, can this printer use metal powder to make parts?? Im curious since i've seen SLS printers (albeit on an industrial scale) make metal parts and look great. Either way, I hope to buy one of these printers in the future
Babe wakeup! New Micronics video! 😄 So excited for this team/company
Having worked a very large compagnie's makerspace, and visited quite a few in Europe I would say the only issue fabmanagers will have with this machine is the ATEX safety from powder particles
I honestly thought he was being sarcastic about the McMaster Carr thing until he highlighted the ToS
Where can I get powder in the EU for it?
How long does it take to print a single small item like a benchy and how much of the used powder for it would be reusable?
Vitalik Buterin sure is aggressive!
Yes, and finally selling a real thing instead of crypto-vaporware!
So proud of you guys, you did such a great job - keep it up !!
(currently sadly not able to pick one up as i am still a student - definitely will tho once im able to
🔥😉)
I'm excited for this and will most likely back just to get the tech in my garage. I realize the build volume is small so maybe this doesn't matter, but I haven't seen mention of an F-theta lens, and the wattage seems low. How do you ensure complete layer fusion for parts along the edges of the build volume due to the beam un-focusing farther from center?
The difference is sufficiently small that we can just compensate for it in software. The build volume may seem small compared to FDM printers, but you aren't limited to the 2D area of the build plate so you can actually pack a lot more parts into each print.
first time discovering you and sls printing, it seems amazing! i like this channel already with the cad thing
Can you print metal with it or just nylon? What other materials are possible?
Tpu
And ALL the unsintered powder can be used for the next run?
Enought power for metal prints?
This video itself is amazing, lol.
Between this and the new wire EDM kickstarter, I am absolutely stoked.
Yay!!! Glad you will actually be at Open Sauce 😃
Dude amazing I always wanted a power printer !!
Do you need a special vacuum cleaner to pick up any spillage?
Absolutely love the humor guys, almost as much as I love the product! Good taste in youtubers too, fun Everyday Astronaut shout out!
Hi i'm so ecited for this printer. can you tell us a bit about posible problems that can accure and what type of calibration is going to be needed on this printer?
for your auger problem:
something that you could try in a different prototype is a grain elevator for the powder, where the auger remains stationary and the tube is what moves
good luck at open sauce, this looks great
this is the reference for the idea: an olds elevator as reviewed by tom scott
czcams.com/video/-fu03F-Iah8/video.html
Love the concept and have been looking forward to it.. What I'd love to know is how you handle powder recovery/recycling and sintering though.
amazing video! everything seems to be on point. do i need to pay more ? like for the cleaning of the part and stuff
can it make metalic parts?
Can it be shipped to Sweden and what would that additional cost be?
I have alweays wanted a powder printer, I wonder if the price will be reasonable?
The second this tech is able to produce results as smooth as resin prints, without that granular texture, I'm making the switch. No supports alone is worth it, not to mention the other crazy benefits.
You can get pretty close by shot peening the parts in a regular media blaster using Acrylic blasting media to get a semi-gloss finish.
I wish I could get my hands on one of these.
I 3D print parts for toys I sell. This gives a much more kid friendly product. can be washed, bounce resistant.
And as a supporter for 3D designers, printing articulated models will be awesome.
I can already see so many applications for this.
A few questions:
Is it possible to get smooth finishes with this method equivalent to ironed surfaces with fdm?
How much does ambient temperature control influence nylon powder printing with this machine vs filament?
The open sauce spot is a pretty good show of faith
How thin is thin wall prints? We are in the bottle packaging industry. Can you print at 0.2mm wall thickness?
We recommend a minimum wall thickness of 0.6mm
How fine can it make (functional) threading on screws?
Cool ! I need it ! What is build platform?
4:01 just a question, this would print just fine? No problems at all?
Your first UK customer here, just to boost your content!
I wish I had the funds for this, I guess once I do I will just have to keep an eye out for it.
The required powder is like $300 for 2.5kg
@@DDryTaste That's if you have the printer
@@LoganDark4357 If you can afford a $3000+ printer... then the powder probably isn't that expensive. I have trouble seeing how it could be used for commercial purposes though. I'm not sure if anyone's willing to pay for parts that cost that much. A normally $50 part may now cost $70 in nylon alone before all the other costs are factored in.
Any chance you could show us how a painted miniature looks from this machine? I'm especially curious about one that uses techniques like dry brushing and dark washes, as I want to see how that "sandy" texture comes through.
Where would we get the powder and at what costs compared to FDM?
They're selling Carbon Fiber reinforced Nylon 12 powder for $250 for 5 liters. That's about double the per kilogram cost for an equivalent FDM material.
@@kerbalengineeringsystems7415 Ok. Well i think that price would fall if SLS kicks off and other suppliers start to offer powder.
Honestly is great to see you guys coming in with this stuff, even if I personally probably don't have as much use for sintered plastics as I would metals, which is a whole different ballpark, still great tech though. As someone who does make a lot of thin walled parts I can at least appreciate why this would be great for precision mechanical parts, if not ideal for aestetics with the very porous looking surface finish right off the printer.
As some general video making advice to help you guys out, I will just point out that you're pressed into a corner with solid walls, no sound dampening and you're shouting with overemphasis on every other word (Normal for anyone unused to relaxing when actively on camera and reading a script, no disrespect to you at all mate). My advice is take a deep breath and relax your chest and throat when talking, trying not to focus too hard on the individual words, just the message to get across so you speak your own words more naturally. Relaxing should also help prevent excessive volume as well, because your microphone is literally right on your chest so no need to project your voice to the camera, and beyond that try and print or buy some high frequency sound dampening material for the walls behind you, that'll go a long way towards improving the audio.
Great presentation, amazing job.
Wonder if you guys have different colors.
What is the used, but unused, to new power ratio ?
I love this, but I'm afraid that the comparison to FDM starts to fall apart once you compare filament cost
What is the print speed of the printer ?
What is the expected life of the laser ? A typical co2 laser in a laser cuter / engraver from epilog have a life of around 5 years
@micronics3d ... question - will it work on 240 Volts also? Do you ship to europe?
Yes and yes
I'm excited for the Kickstarter.
What kind of nylon powders will this machine be able to use?
Will it be able to use carbon fiber-infused nylon?
Thank you.
Carbon fiber composites get their strength from having long strands, so a powder system can never print CF
@@FluffRat
It looks like my post was deleted.
There are nylon powders that are infused with carbon fiber.
I believe it is called PL-11 CF. There are videos about it.
what are the max print dimensions? I think I missed that.
This SLS could become a realy game changer! How will you arrange shipping to EU/Germany and do i need to pay additional customs when backing? Will you have official reseller in EU later on for getting spare parts and accesories?
I know this is a commercial, but, dam it! you got me!!
Since you mention miniatures how is the surface quality of the prints, looks similar toe sandstone. I remember you could polish SLS parts but how close could you get to say an injection moulded figure?
You can use acetone vapor, or other chemical smoothing.
Speed?
love how white the fingertip was turning in that scene where they were measuring the part
What about surface texture? Is it sandable?
So is it more or less poisonous to everything than resin printing?