Thanks for watching everyone! Here's some time stamps if you want to skip around this longer than usual video 0:57 Unboxing 2:17 Assembly 7:25 Features 5:47 Running in standalone mode 13:16 Sample engraving and cutting 13:53 My hack enclosure 14:35 Engraving and cutting examples 24:40 Titanium 26:52 Pros and cons
I've been in depth researching Laser Engravers for about 6 weeks. I had just made up my mind that the Atomstack A5 Pro 40w was going to be my choice... until I saw this review! I can see that for the projects I have in mind ~ the upgrade will be worth it! Your review was by far the most comprehensive and the "recipes" are a fantastic bonus. Although, I would've loved to know approximately how long 2 passes, 6 passes, etc. took in comparison to the A5. Still, I cannot thank you enough for making the decision so easy. Just don't tell my hubby about the extra cost! LOL
Thank you so much for the kind words Celicia! I will do better on the listing the cut times in the future :) If there are specific ones you want me to go back and look at please let me know.
Thanks for making me spend more money, I was going to buy the 5! Seriously thanks for keeping us updated, I tried your amazon link and it goes to the X5.
Thanks for the comment. I just checked the amazon link in the videos description and it goes to the X7 product page. Not sure what happened but try it again and see what happens. Thanks for watching.
@@Neo7CNC Thank you, if you possibly have time I would like to make the enclosure first but am finding different stats for the dimensions. Would (4) 2 foot long boards be enough for the base. It should be according to the dimensions, but I'm not sure if they included the controller.
Bought the X7 pro bought the extension, the tumbler base and project bed. I think everything was about $1100 to $1200. I have not yet put it together but will let you know how it goes. Thanks for making the video it definitely made my decision easier.
Wifi connection is working well. Only current problem is a need to reconnecting wifi (with touch screen) after every reboot manually. Password is stored so after reboot just hit connect. You can send file to sdcard and see status.
(I chose to spend my time on your review because of the quality of your A5pro review.) 3 items: (1) Maybe I missed it but the achilles heel of the A5pro was the key/screw focusing system. I want to know about the improved focusing system. (2) The new fancy doodads on the controller are not needed if you run several types of machines from your computer. Handling the file on a tiny microSD seems superfluous. (I would immediately add an adapter to a bigger removable medium. 3D printers forums cover that. (3) 3rd party diode laser module manufacturers have various high power and quality options... something to investigate- though it's not a siple swap procedure. You need to modify the DC power and firmware conditions.
The focus on the X7 couldn't get much better outside of a rack and pinion adjust or leadscrew mechanism IMO. The X7 has a single knob with a screw that presses into the middle of the dovetail track on the back of the laser module and causes it to bind, effectively locking into position once set. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thanks. You helped me make my decision on mu first laser. I was well informed although not quite satisfied with the customer support from Atomstack. I first got the A5 pro. Now I'm going to go ahead and upgrade to that Makeblock one that you reviewed. Much love bro!
Bought the a5, ran it for a couple month then found its limitations. I really probably need co2 laser but this is "more portable" and cost effective at this point. The packaging is amazing. Ordered from china and it came in less than a week. I like the atomstack frame. It is very precise and hard to get out of square. The rollers on my a5 and x7 both are not properly smooth. Its minor and shouldnt effect operation though. Looked at the neje but with dual y servos.. I could see problems down the road. The 12mm plywood.. You were probably about maxed with the 9mm cut. If air assist was added.. Could probably get more. But also the laser at some point will loose power and start to disburse (out of focus) as it gets farther away on x axis. The extension kit is very nice. Just sucks you cant just buy the x7 already with it and save a bit of cash. The stop sensor cabling needs help. Hell the whole thing should have a drag chain. The stop sensor should also use a version with the metal spring tab. Prevent it from crashing into that tiny switch. On the handheld.. The surrounding cover keeps popping off. May have to super glue or hot glue it.
Great video!! I just wonder if you could help me out with some dimensional info related to this machine: is it possible for you to tell me the exact dimensions of the laser head of this X7 Pro as well as the feet height and alu profile dimensions? (X,Y profiles) I ask because I am thinking of upgrading my machine and I had developed an accessory which I would like to have adapted to the Atomstack x7 pro also, many thanks in advance
ive really enjoyed watching your videos on the 10 Laser engravers. Of all the ones you have had your hands on which would you say is the best bang for the dollar?
Great video. I’ve been thinking about this unit for my first laser. I’ve read a lot of comments about quality control issues and lack of customer support with Atomstack. Have you had any issues in the month since this video?
I did see another commenter mention an issue with their A5 but I have not personally run into any issues from the A5 or X7 Pro units that I've reviewed. The X7 is my current "go to" machine. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hey David, great video review as always, I was wondering about engraving on the thin stainless, could you possibly lay it on some kind of magnet to hold it in place and hold it down enough to help reduce or eliminate the warping? Since you're the King 👑 of this kind of testing I thought I'd run it pass you. I have this machine in my sights because I made the mistake of getting the comgro 10w and it's been nothing but a headache for me, I'm even on my second machine that they sent to replace the first one and now I'm currently waiting on a replacement laser head due to the one that came with it pooped out on me. Thanks for all your knowledge and videos, God bless you and your entire family and our entire CZcams family.
Hello Dave i love your videos!! slow and very detailed, which do you use as your laser burning? i have lasergrbl. I am having hard time. i am trying it out on the pieces that came with the A5 pro
Great job Dave. I am sure this wouldn't do much to non anodized aluminum, but it would have been fun to try and see what it would do nevertheless. Ciao, Marco.
Funny you mention that. I tried aluminum foil and it barely did anything to it. You could see what the laser hit but it would not cut or melt the foil. I believe the aluminum dissipates the heat too quickly, it's too good of a heat sink. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Hey Dave, I think my interest in the laser would be in marking metal (aluminum mostly) like engraving on an instrument panel, and perhaps cutting fiberglass, like producing a sheet of fiberglass or curbing fiber, then cutting components out of it for my fabrication needs (see my CZcams channel for what I’m into). I could make you some coupon samples to try your laser on if you’d like. Ciao, Marco.
@@EZ_shop I'd certainly try the coupons if you wanted to send some. If you're wanting to engrave the aluminum instrument panels and cut fiberglass then a traditional CNC would probably be the better tool.
Hi, i am engraveing stainless steel but i cant get a black color on the final resault. I am doing it with: Quality 17 lines/mm Speed: 1000 Intensity: 100% I hope you can help me, cheers from Argentina.
The stainless steel I'm marking is less than 1 mm thick. The key to this marking is to put focused heat into the stainless steel to cause the color change. If you're working with a thicker material, you'll need to slow the speed way down to have a better chance. Also make sure that what you have the stainless steel sitting on isn't acting like a big heatsink (like aluminum). That will quickly remove the heat that you're trying to put into the stainless steel. Let me know if you have better success. Try using something like wood behind the part you're trying to mark.
Yes it can. I’ve engraved slate coasters with a 10w laser machine with great results. The mark looks even better if you spray lacquer the slate after the engraving. Be sure to wipe down the slate with a strong cleaner / degreaser before doing the engraving.
I want to burn (remove) two layers from 3 layer sandwich paper (0.4mm paper / pu foam 0.5mm / 0.4mm paper). The surface has a 30mm height deviation. Would it possible? If there is less detail at the "out of focus" area is not a problem but it may not burn through the third layer. thanks
Interesting question. My initial thought is that it wouldn't be possible. The only laser that I've tested that might possibly have a chance would be the Aufero Laser 1 with it's long focus laser head attached. That might give you enough reach, but it's only a guess. 30mm is a heavy deviation .
I installed the nuts and screws without tightening them, then pulled the belt to make it tight, then tightened the bolts. if the t-nut's threads or screws have stripped you'll need new ones.
The camera shot is more than a bit misleading. The scorching you see is actually an old backer piece of wood from a previous job. What's being engraved here is a small black anodized aluminum dog tag that is so small that the laser head covers it up. Sorry for the confusion.
I would think over time things would start to degrade like most lasers. I don't know what the lifespan is at 100% but I'd only use it when I absolutely needed to.
you can help me choose which one I have to buy laser engraver that engraves and is more precise, I don't care about the cut but the engraving between which to choose ATOMSTACK S10 PRO 50W or Atomstack X7 Pro 50W or laser SCULPFUN S10 thanks
Just curious what you have your percentage set at on the fire button for lightburn? They say to stay below 1% but the polarized cover is so dark I can't see it at 1%.
WiFi- You said the company expects to release the WiFi capability around December 2021? On April 12, 2022, I contacted their customer support line about it and I was told they would NOT be coming out with the WiFi ability because they couldn't get it to work and had given up on it. This is bad news because I wanted to have the wifi feature for my work. Instead I now am considering the NEJE 3 series because they DO have WiFi, a series of Apps to run it on Apple and Android, Plus MOST important, their a40640 DUAL Laser output is around 11-12 watts Output. And I can get the MAX (1080x 410mm work area) for about $599, from the Neje store (in the USA -?). Compared to the test samples of the Atomstack X7/A10 by other CZcamsRS , the NEJE 3 A40640 LASER MODULE is a Much more powerful laser with a much Smaller size Beam than atomstacks' ! I hope you get to test the NEJE 3 series WITH THIS MODULE - I think you will see what I mean.
Thanks for watching everyone! Here's some time stamps if you want to skip around this longer than usual video
0:57 Unboxing
2:17 Assembly
7:25 Features
5:47 Running in standalone mode
13:16 Sample engraving and cutting
13:53 My hack enclosure
14:35 Engraving and cutting examples
24:40 Titanium
26:52 Pros and cons
What is the diference with ATOMSTACK A10 PRO?
I've been in depth researching Laser Engravers for about 6 weeks. I had just made up my mind that the Atomstack A5 Pro 40w was going to be my choice... until I saw this review! I can see that for the projects I have in mind ~ the upgrade will be worth it! Your review was by far the most comprehensive and the "recipes" are a fantastic bonus. Although, I would've loved to know approximately how long 2 passes, 6 passes, etc. took in comparison to the A5. Still, I cannot thank you enough for making the decision so easy. Just don't tell my hubby about the extra cost! LOL
Thank you so much for the kind words Celicia! I will do better on the listing the cut times in the future :) If there are specific ones you want me to go back and look at please let me know.
I bought the A5 pro plus. Now i regretted. I should have gotten the X7 pro instead 😆
Same here! I saw him mention this review in the A5 review. Did you purchase it in the US? HIs link actually goes to the 5 for Amazon.
The link is working now. Someone else mentioned that it wasn't working.
Thanks for making me spend more money, I was going to buy the 5! Seriously thanks for keeping us updated, I tried your amazon link and it goes to the X5.
Thanks for the comment. I just checked the amazon link in the videos description and it goes to the X7 product page. Not sure what happened but try it again and see what happens. Thanks for watching.
@@Neo7CNC Maybe Amazon was out for a while, I got the page now too. I ended up ordering from their site and I am still waiting for it :(
Thanks for letting me know the link is working. Hopefully your laser arrives soon.
@@Neo7CNC Thank you, if you possibly have time I would like to make the enclosure first but am finding different stats for the dimensions. Would (4) 2 foot long boards be enough for the base. It should be according to the dimensions, but I'm not sure if they included the controller.
Bought the X7 pro bought the extension, the tumbler base and project bed. I think everything was about $1100 to $1200. I have not yet put it together but will let you know how it goes. Thanks for making the video it definitely made my decision easier.
Thanks! The X7 is a great machine. I have the extension and rotary also and will be doing an X7 revisit when the schedule allows. Thanks for watching!
Wifi connection is working well. Only current problem is a need to reconnecting wifi (with touch screen) after every reboot manually. Password is stored so after reboot just hit connect.
You can send file to sdcard and see status.
Thanks for the update and for watching!
(I chose to spend my time on your review because of the quality of your A5pro review.) 3 items: (1) Maybe I missed it but the achilles heel of the A5pro was the key/screw focusing system. I want to know about the improved focusing system. (2) The new fancy doodads on the controller are not needed if you run several types of machines from your computer. Handling the file on a tiny microSD seems superfluous. (I would immediately add an adapter to a bigger removable medium. 3D printers forums cover that. (3) 3rd party diode laser module manufacturers have various high power and quality options... something to investigate- though it's not a siple swap procedure. You need to modify the DC power and firmware conditions.
The focus on the X7 couldn't get much better outside of a rack and pinion adjust or leadscrew mechanism IMO. The X7 has a single knob with a screw that presses into the middle of the dovetail track on the back of the laser module and causes it to bind, effectively locking into position once set. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thanks. You helped me make my decision on mu first laser. I was well informed although not quite satisfied with the customer support from Atomstack. I first got the A5 pro. Now I'm going to go ahead and upgrade to that Makeblock one that you reviewed. Much love bro!
Great review! I love your in depth explanations. I have an X7 Pro and I am hoping I see the comparison with the Sculpfun S10
Bought the a5, ran it for a couple month then found its limitations. I really probably need co2 laser but this is "more portable" and cost effective at this point.
The packaging is amazing. Ordered from china and it came in less than a week.
I like the atomstack frame. It is very precise and hard to get out of square.
The rollers on my a5 and x7 both are not properly smooth. Its minor and shouldnt effect operation though.
Looked at the neje but with dual y servos.. I could see problems down the road.
The 12mm plywood.. You were probably about maxed with the 9mm cut. If air assist was added.. Could probably get more. But also the laser at some point will loose power and start to disburse (out of focus) as it gets farther away on x axis.
The extension kit is very nice. Just sucks you cant just buy the x7 already with it and save a bit of cash.
The stop sensor cabling needs help. Hell the whole thing should have a drag chain. The stop sensor should also use a version with the metal spring tab. Prevent it from crashing into that tiny switch.
On the handheld.. The surrounding cover keeps popping off. May have to super glue or hot glue it.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. You make some great points!
I'm wondering what you had used to cut completely through that piece of titanium you used to test the X7
Those cuts were done with a waterjet machine.
i really enjoy the way you review and give details. it keeps it interesting.. and great info and opinions
Thank you so much for watching!
Good comprehensive review.
Thanks Brian! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.
Great video!! I just wonder if you could help me out with some dimensional info related to this machine:
is it possible for you to tell me the exact dimensions of the laser head of this X7 Pro as well as the feet height and alu profile dimensions? (X,Y profiles) I ask because I am thinking of upgrading my machine and I had developed an accessory which I would like to have adapted to the Atomstack x7 pro also, many thanks in advance
I almost threw my feet out lol
Best review of the atomstack I have seen.
Thank you Andrew!
ive really enjoyed watching your videos on the 10 Laser engravers. Of all the ones you have had your hands on which would you say is the best bang for the dollar?
Great review looking at getting one soon. Thanks
Great video. I’ve been thinking about this unit for my first laser. I’ve read a lot of comments about quality control issues and lack of customer support with Atomstack. Have you had any issues in the month since this video?
I did see another commenter mention an issue with their A5 but I have not personally run into any issues from the A5 or X7 Pro units that I've reviewed. The X7 is my current "go to" machine. Thanks for watching and commenting.
What is the actual cutting area of this capable of my dear requires 26.5 inches in length. Any reply appreciated.
Hey David, great video review as always, I was wondering about engraving on the thin stainless, could you possibly lay it on some kind of magnet to hold it in place and hold it down enough to help reduce or eliminate the warping? Since you're the King 👑 of this kind of testing I thought I'd run it pass you. I have this machine in my sights because I made the mistake of getting the comgro 10w and it's been nothing but a headache for me, I'm even on my second machine that they sent to replace the first one and now I'm currently waiting on a replacement laser head due to the one that came with it pooped out on me. Thanks for all your knowledge and videos, God bless you and your entire family and our entire CZcams family.
Thank you
Hello Dave i love your videos!! slow and very detailed, which do you use as your laser burning? i have lasergrbl. I am having hard time. i am trying it out on the pieces that came with the A5 pro
I use Lightburn. It's a very capable software that allows you to do a lot of creation and editing. What problems are you running into?
Thanks for the review. Can you please advise the hieght of the X7 on the table
Adding about 1 inch of clearance for the wiring, it's 12 inches. Let me know if you have anymore questions and thanks for watching.
Great job Dave. I am sure this wouldn't do much to non anodized aluminum, but it would have been fun to try and see what it would do nevertheless. Ciao, Marco.
Funny you mention that. I tried aluminum foil and it barely did anything to it. You could see what the laser hit but it would not cut or melt the foil. I believe the aluminum dissipates the heat too quickly, it's too good of a heat sink. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
@@Neo7CNC Thanks Dave, did you try any fiberglass by any chance? Ciao, Marco.
@@EZ_shop Hey again Marco, That's a good idea. I don't have any but if I can find some I'll test it. Are you curious about engraving, cutting or both?
Hey Dave, I think my interest in the laser would be in marking metal (aluminum mostly) like engraving on an instrument panel, and perhaps cutting fiberglass, like producing a sheet of fiberglass or curbing fiber, then cutting components out of it for my fabrication needs (see my CZcams channel for what I’m into). I could make you some coupon samples to try your laser on if you’d like. Ciao, Marco.
@@EZ_shop I'd certainly try the coupons if you wanted to send some. If you're wanting to engrave the aluminum instrument panels and cut fiberglass then a traditional CNC would probably be the better tool.
Hi, i am engraveing stainless steel but i cant get a black color on the final resault. I am doing it with:
Quality 17 lines/mm
Speed: 1000
Intensity: 100%
I hope you can help me, cheers from Argentina.
The stainless steel I'm marking is less than 1 mm thick. The key to this marking is to put focused heat into the stainless steel to cause the color change. If you're working with a thicker material, you'll need to slow the speed way down to have a better chance. Also make sure that what you have the stainless steel sitting on isn't acting like a big heatsink (like aluminum). That will quickly remove the heat that you're trying to put into the stainless steel. Let me know if you have better success. Try using something like wood behind the part you're trying to mark.
Hi Neo, I just wonder if X7 Pro can cut a clear 10mm acrylic sheet??
I've not had good results with any clear (even thinner) acrylic so I'd say no.
@@Neo7CNC Thank you
Can this be used to engrave slate?
Yes it can. I’ve engraved slate coasters with a 10w laser machine with great results. The mark looks even better if you spray lacquer the slate after the engraving. Be sure to wipe down the slate with a strong cleaner / degreaser before doing the engraving.
Great job David. I going to get one..
Thanks Hamp. I think your going to have some fun with it.
How it works with a Wine glass, Glass tumbler?
CO2 50 WATT IS THE SAME PRICE AND WORK WITH LIGHTBURNT SEACH FOR BETTER LASER
I want to burn (remove) two layers from 3 layer sandwich paper (0.4mm paper / pu foam 0.5mm / 0.4mm paper).
The surface has a 30mm height deviation. Would it possible? If there is less detail at the "out of focus" area is not a problem but it may not burn through the third layer. thanks
Interesting question. My initial thought is that it wouldn't be possible. The only laser that I've tested that might possibly have a chance would be the Aufero Laser 1 with it's long focus laser head attached. That might give you enough reach, but it's only a guess. 30mm is a heavy deviation .
Any tips for installing the belts. Tee nuts are very tight ( screws backed out) and very hard to adjust. Thanks
I installed the nuts and screws without tightening them, then pulled the belt to make it tight, then tightened the bolts. if the t-nut's threads or screws have stripped you'll need new ones.
Excellent review!
Thanks for watching!
My sleeping job
What is it like with engraving skate?????
sorry Slate
I haven't tried that yet but I'll add it to the list. Thanks for the idea!
I only ask as am looking for laser machin and this one fits the bill . As its extendable. Want to make slate house signs
Great video, I really enjoyed it!!!
Thanks for the comment and for watching!
does it mark on Brass, Gold and Silver? i want to do marking on those materials. is it possible?
It will not mark those materials unfortunately. You'd need something like a Fiber laser for those
@@Neo7CNC when i asked the seller they told me it will mark on these materials but i wanted to confirm with someone who is already using it
Do yu have a speed, power, distance chart for the different types of material for the Atomstack P7 mini 40w for cutting, engraving, Grey scaling?
hya!.super sharing-all the best~
At 18:50, there is quite a lot of scorching, is there a way to add air-assist? Do you have any idea what is the best between this and the NEJE A40640?
The camera shot is more than a bit misleading. The scorching you see is actually an old backer piece of wood from a previous job. What's being engraved here is a small black anodized aluminum dog tag that is so small that the laser head covers it up. Sorry for the confusion.
Air assist is a DIY project. I've seen a few variations between CZcams and Reddit posts
Great review, is running it at 100% bad for the diode? Can this unit be equipped with air assist?
I would think over time things would start to degrade like most lasers. I don't know what the lifespan is at 100% but I'd only use it when I absolutely needed to.
you can help me choose which one I have to buy laser engraver that engraves and is more precise, I don't care about the cut but the engraving between which to choose ATOMSTACK S10 PRO 50W or Atomstack X7 Pro 50W or laser SCULPFUN S10 thanks
Just curious what you have your percentage set at on the fire button for lightburn? They say to stay below 1% but the polarized cover is so dark I can't see it at 1%.
I use .4
WiFi- You said the company expects to release the WiFi capability around December 2021?
On April 12, 2022, I contacted their customer support line about it and I was told they would NOT be coming out with the WiFi ability because they couldn't get it to work and had given up on it.
This is bad news because I wanted to have the wifi feature for my work. Instead I now am considering the NEJE 3 series because they DO have WiFi, a series of Apps to run it on Apple and Android, Plus MOST important, their a40640 DUAL Laser output is around 11-12 watts Output. And I can get the MAX (1080x 410mm work area) for about $599, from the Neje store (in the USA -?).
Compared to the test samples of the Atomstack X7/A10 by other CZcamsRS , the NEJE 3 A40640 LASER MODULE is a Much more powerful laser with a much Smaller size Beam than atomstacks' ! I hope you get to test the NEJE 3 series WITH THIS MODULE - I think you will see what I mean.