Want More Power? (Two Cleat Positions to Respect!)

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
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    Cleat position for cycling! A super important factor for road cyclists to ensure they're not experiencing knee pain and other associated injury possibilities, but perhaps most interesting for most! Cyclists want to get faster and stronger on their road bikes and cleat position can play a critical factor. So, in this video today, a well-regarded bike fitter called Neill Stanbury talks to us about two critical factors when it comes to cleat position. All the way from where cleats should be placed to the impact it can have on power transfer into the pedal and throughout the bike.
    #cycling #cleat #position
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Komentáře • 632

  • @Oilyhands749
    @Oilyhands749 Před 4 lety +133

    Sat glued to this , to give this amount of professional information for free is just amazing , Thank you it really is Appreciated.

    • @Fixin-To
      @Fixin-To Před 3 lety +5

      Check out James, Bikefit Tuesdays, in Francis Cade channel. More free advice!

    • @jonathan_guerrero
      @jonathan_guerrero Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly what I was thinking. This guy is incredibly helpful

  • @Pierrrrrrrrrrrrrrre
    @Pierrrrrrrrrrrrrrre Před 4 lety +133

    Jeez. That man knows is s***. I've listen to a lot of stuff and this is the most structured and informed discussion I've found about it.

    • @notreally2406
      @notreally2406 Před 3 lety +1

      How do you know he's correct, if you don't know?

    • @Abnsdllnnlosnfd
      @Abnsdllnnlosnfd Před 3 lety

      @@notreally2406 He is correct! Trust me ;-)

    • @syrus3k
      @syrus3k Před 3 lety

      Although he uses oval rings so not so sure...

  • @MiserereMei
    @MiserereMei Před 4 lety +84

    I could listen to Neill talk for hours. Bring him back often, Cam!

  • @tobegan3753
    @tobegan3753 Před 4 lety

    Finally! I've been wanting a video like this for ages. Thank you for this Cam

  • @c.initiative2705
    @c.initiative2705 Před 4 lety

    Great insights. I've always felt I needed more Q-factor and should place the cleats more to the back. Thank you for this informative video, Cam!

  • @stanisinjo
    @stanisinjo Před 4 lety

    Great video, one of the best on cleats position i've ever seen. More content like this, please.

  • @jeffs5519
    @jeffs5519 Před 4 lety +1

    Great info Cam, working on this today! Love this tech detail, more please.

  • @x1Brolic
    @x1Brolic Před 4 lety

    Excellent Cam! Never heard it explained before... Spot on mate.

  • @hlim431
    @hlim431 Před 4 lety +24

    I have NEVER learnt more about this subject!!! Thanks Cam and Neill

  • @stephen67aus
    @stephen67aus Před 4 lety

    Very interesting indeed. Could watch this stuff all day. Great content, keep it coming.

  • @terrancesmith5389
    @terrancesmith5389 Před 3 lety +11

    Foot stability. 1. Walk up to an escalator and as you start to position your feet grab the rails, left and right.
    2. Line up your toes on the edge of the step when it is flat just before it starts to go up.
    3. Go back down and this time place the balls of your feet on the edge.
    4. The third time stand mid foot.
    5. Repeat without holding onto the "rail".
    6. Which foot position provides the most stability? AND pay attention to the calf muscles.

  • @TheUltimateULTRA
    @TheUltimateULTRA Před 4 lety

    sooooo interesting and informative, more like this from this guy please!

  • @thomasmarktooms
    @thomasmarktooms Před 4 lety

    Excellent vid, made me reconisder a whole bunch of stuff. Keep em coming Cam great series.

  • @MiseEnZheng
    @MiseEnZheng Před 3 lety

    Absolutely fascinating listening to this man speak about and give relatable examples of the outcomes and effects of certain riding positions.

  • @Chris.E.
    @Chris.E. Před 4 lety +57

    He's bloody brilliant. I totally nerded out listening to him and I'm a super novice rider.

  • @golfnmachine
    @golfnmachine Před 3 lety +3

    This is absolutely amazing information. My head is spinning (in a good way) as a reasonably new rider. It gives me a lot to think about.

  • @Mcglocklingirls
    @Mcglocklingirls Před 4 lety +10

    Having struggled with fit over the years and Shimano cleat position - this is super informative many thanks for producing this -

  • @bjornbaron5940
    @bjornbaron5940 Před 4 lety +26

    This guy is really thorough and enlightening

  • @leon.a.t
    @leon.a.t Před 4 lety

    Awesome video Cam. So much information and knowledge 👍🏻

  • @trabink2
    @trabink2 Před 3 lety

    Incredibly well explained, pushing me in the right direction, and yes, I'll be looking for the base plate extender!!! Thank you for your wisdom, expertise, and experience!!! Wish you were close by 😉!!!

  • @matt014908
    @matt014908 Před 4 lety

    Some of the best information out there, no bull, all knowledge 👍

  • @franksolomona90
    @franksolomona90 Před 4 lety +2

    Great video, many thanks, we can never stop learning. It's what makes cycling such a great sport 🤙🏼

  • @1speed35
    @1speed35 Před 4 lety +3

    That was fascinating! I've struggled with foot issues in the past, and I'm now trying to offset what might be longer term repetitive issues in my hips, lower back and quads. And I think the discussion on these-to-side and fore and aft might be a clue to point me toward a solution. Aside from that personal stuff, I though the universal Q-factor thing was really wild.. Thank you for such a great video!

  • @OFlick-en8yw
    @OFlick-en8yw Před 4 lety

    Thank you, that was very informative. I have been cycling for 3 years and casually heard the topics presented in this video. Now, I have a better understanding why cleat position and Q-Factor matters.
    cheers,

  • @cliffordchaperon6795
    @cliffordchaperon6795 Před 4 lety

    Love it Cam - you are getting top quality speakers on your channel

  • @raymondbrathwaite4852
    @raymondbrathwaite4852 Před 4 lety +5

    I got lost in time taking in all if information...for a 16 minute video it was to short....I really enjoy this and now thinking of going to speed play....thanks for this information.

  • @asuperstar
    @asuperstar Před 4 lety +1

    WOW. This helps me so much. Thanks for sharing!

  • @eddnshoulders
    @eddnshoulders Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks both for sharing this extremely useful info. I hope you can do more like it. I would be interested to know how Neill finds the optimum q-factor, whether is this from some method of hip-width measurement, trial-and-error from watching leg/knee movement from behind, or some other method.
    Neill should consider doing a full video series like this on all the aspects of bike fit for those of use who can't get to him in person, even if it was a paid-for private series. It's so refreshing and useful when someone understands something like this from first principles - something unfortunately especially rare in the sport of cycling.

  • @brycehiigel235
    @brycehiigel235 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the info. I knew my Speedplays were very adjustable just not that adjustable. Loved the explanation on on the foot and pedal position. Really helped me understand some things. Wish I were closer to go and have him fit and adjust my bike.

  • @MrYetibaby
    @MrYetibaby Před 3 lety

    Love this ...Neil is brilliant on explaining .. keep it coming

  • @craigdonovan4277
    @craigdonovan4277 Před 3 lety +9

    Exactly what I needed, quads were doing all the work and minor knee pain. Will test this tomorrow. subbed.

  • @hedleykerr3564
    @hedleykerr3564 Před 3 lety +1

    Such an informative video on cleat position I had to watch again 1 year later!

  • @matthewk3233
    @matthewk3233 Před 4 lety +2

    I've really enjoyed the 2 videos with Neil, and looking for the next ones! Riding for a couple years and never had a fit, but once this Covid thing is over plan on going to a Steve Hogg trained fitter in my country.

  • @thedownunderverse
    @thedownunderverse Před 4 lety +2

    He’s not only so knowledgeable but also so eloquent! Great vid!!

  • @cyc00000
    @cyc00000 Před 4 lety

    Quality content mate! Thanks for posting it.

  • @christianemeiners9224
    @christianemeiners9224 Před 4 lety +10

    Wow, right on topic. I just recently changed my shoes and attached the cleats myself. As it appears, with what you are saying in the video, too far forward. Thanks for the advice. Cheers

  • @JibbaJabber
    @JibbaJabber Před 4 lety +6

    Cam, this is brilliant!!! Loved all of it. Especially, the conclusion around the "kinetic chain". People need help understanding that poor clear position could end up causing numb hands!
    I feel I'm very quad dominant and I've just check my clear position. According to Neil's ballpark advice, I'm over 5mm from where I should be as a starting point!! So, I might just start adjusting over a long period to see how I feel - whilst naturally compensating in other areas.
    Big respect to Neil👍 He knows his stuff and seems like an affable guy. Loved his knowledge on q factor and the axle length options.
    Keep the good work up. If I get some spare cash, I'll be buying you (and Neil) a coffee or two☕

  • @andrewk3128
    @andrewk3128 Před 4 lety +10

    I got fit by Neil about 6 months ago and this reminded me how good he is. Unfortunately he moved north, bad news for Melbourne peeps but great news for anyone on the Sunshine Coast!

  • @rogerhartley4456
    @rogerhartley4456 Před 4 lety

    Another awesome video! Please keep them coming!

  • @marcdaniels9079
    @marcdaniels9079 Před 4 lety

    Brilliant video ! Had an expensive video bike fit a few years back and the tech adjusted my cleats which eliminated outer foot pain I had experienced for the previous 10 years !

  • @timblass4811
    @timblass4811 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Learnt so much and inspired to learn more. Thanks!

  • @reiniervandyk596
    @reiniervandyk596 Před 4 lety

    Had a fit between the last video and this one. He solved my problems. Very happy.

  • @deanmarkillie9699
    @deanmarkillie9699 Před 3 lety

    WOW. So passionate! And knowledgeable! I am a new cyclist and am having no end of trouble with calf cramps, despite having a fit.
    I may have to play with my adjustments.

  • @morgano9832
    @morgano9832 Před 4 lety

    Video was worth a watch for that ferrule taped to the metatarsal joint trick alone. Thanks

  • @jenorite80
    @jenorite80 Před 3 lety

    Neil's a great guy and knows his stuff. Excellent.

  • @missdee9228
    @missdee9228 Před 4 lety +17

    Brilliant - extremely informative. Love watching your clips 👍.

  • @NebulaMK
    @NebulaMK Před 3 lety +1

    Okay, I have spent the last year after getting a new bike and shoes, trying to get my fit correct. turned out the whole time I just had my cleats too far forward. Thank you so much for posting this video and all the videos you've put up with this guy.

  • @skip55
    @skip55 Před 2 lety +1

    i adjusted my cleats the way he was explaining to widen my feet and put them in line with my hips ,and that small amount made such a difference .he knows his stuff and great to listen too .thanks keith

  • @tedjohnson64
    @tedjohnson64 Před 2 lety

    Neill is brilliant! Really enjoyed his discussion of Q factor.

  • @sjc2965
    @sjc2965 Před 4 lety

    With that purchase of a new bike I definitely will be getting a bike fit.
    Great video Cam.
    Thanks for all your work.
    👍👍👍

  • @babisbabas1547
    @babisbabas1547 Před 10 měsíci

    How good are both of these guys !!!! Well done!

  • @Australia-ky7kx
    @Australia-ky7kx Před 2 lety

    Sensationally good video packed with information. I've been cycling for ever, so am pleased to finally see a scientific explanation of this vitally important subject.

  • @petercallaghan6987
    @petercallaghan6987 Před 4 lety

    Bike fit Neil on a bike fit Wednesday. 👍🏻 as a someone who only started using cleats a few years ago. I found it very confusing. After watching some vids I moved mine right back. It definitely helped. Nice to watch these vids to confirm moving mine. 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @2wheels42
    @2wheels42 Před 4 lety +32

    Just moved my speedplay cleats all the way back. Instantly felt the difference, heaps better and feels much more comfortable. Brilliant advice 👍

  • @TheBassallyear100
    @TheBassallyear100 Před 4 lety +4

    another great video! lots of upside to pushing the cleats back but the one key downside, especially for novice riders, is a greater occurrence of toe strikes on the front tire. Most can brush it off but some may be easily alarmed by it.

  • @nielserikstrup
    @nielserikstrup Před 4 lety

    I learnt a lot! Thanks for posting!

  • @seamasadkins
    @seamasadkins Před 3 lety

    This was very helpful; thanks so much for sharing this.

  • @doraymon4797
    @doraymon4797 Před 3 lety

    Very, very informative! Fantastic content mate, thanks!

  • @daveb1101
    @daveb1101 Před 4 lety +1

    Just discovered this channel! 😃 Loving the quality of your journalism and the experts providing quality scientific input Cam. Can’t wait to dig into your back-catalog! Thanks 👌🏽

    • @CamNicholls
      @CamNicholls  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for supporting the channel Dave 👍

  • @brianc380
    @brianc380 Před 3 lety

    Niells awesome , wish he was in the states . Thanks for sharing all this knowledge!!

  • @terrythomas5513
    @terrythomas5513 Před 3 lety

    really informative discussion of the topic. Thank you.

  • @adamkubiak1933
    @adamkubiak1933 Před 4 lety +20

    Thank you VERY much!
    Convey my thanks to this BikeFitter.
    What a talent in telling the story!
    What a knowledge!
    Perfectly structured!
    Most of the things he says I already knew, but apart from “what” he gives us “why”. Great job.
    Valuable addition to your already great content.

  • @BigMoe1290
    @BigMoe1290 Před 4 lety

    This has been so helpful, had a bike fit but continued to have problems with my knees (pain in the patella and side of the patella). Adjusted the cleat position way back for todays ride and bam, no pain. So I will try this out for a few rides and see if that really was the perfect solution.
    Keep these videos going, if they keep on giving us content like this I will keep on recommending them to my friends.

  • @robertjohnston4669
    @robertjohnston4669 Před 3 lety

    Awesome. Truly enlightening stuff. Thanks !!

  • @1TimeRunner
    @1TimeRunner Před 4 lety

    Great video! Outstanding information. Brilliant.

  • @markbattista6857
    @markbattista6857 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic information , glad I ran across your channel

  • @ajconstantine3593
    @ajconstantine3593 Před 4 lety +1

    This guy effin ROOLZ!!! I don’t ride, but I was completely subsumed by this topic! I respect the hell outta top-flight engineers of any kind and THIS guy communicates/translates his subject matter WELL.
    OUTSTANDING interview & upload, guy! Take a bow! 👏👏👏👏🤘👍✌️

  • @chrisn2904
    @chrisn2904 Před 4 lety

    Hi Cam. Again excellent video. Really makes me understand more about positioning myself on the bike. Thanks!

    • @CamNicholls
      @CamNicholls  Před 4 lety

      Nice one Chris, and thanks for the support! Cam

  • @mark6865
    @mark6865 Před 6 měsíci

    Man I love the videos with Neil. He's amazingly knowledgeable and hilarious too

  • @joshuarumsey2302
    @joshuarumsey2302 Před 5 měsíci

    This is very helpful to understand the relationship between my body and my bike. Thank you.

  • @lmfhk13
    @lmfhk13 Před 3 lety +3

    Good stuff ! It will be interesting to know how to deal with feet size discrepancy too. Me as an example, got 5mm differences in ball joint locations between left and right foot

  • @ayogimenez94
    @ayogimenez94 Před 3 lety +2

    Oh wow, life changer. Just moved my cleats back, back pain and knee pain went away! Thanks for the content! I can comfirm, size 46 foot 20mm, bang on!

  • @TheLive2pedal
    @TheLive2pedal Před 4 lety +2

    Super interesting....having wide feet I always struggle with cleat placement and shoe fit.

  • @toddlichtenwalter2041
    @toddlichtenwalter2041 Před 2 lety

    Massively intelligent and well spoken. Pure gold!

  • @benschuttenbeld
    @benschuttenbeld Před 4 lety

    Wow, very interesting Cam. Thanks a lot.

  • @michaelsteele5495
    @michaelsteele5495 Před 4 lety

    Great content, very informative as usual

  • @francoisholtermann1311

    I saw this video and I bought some extenders for my pedals. I didn’t know they made such a thing. I feel my feet supinating as I ride for a while, so I’m thinking that is the problem. I am 51 years old, and can stand to loose a bit of weight, gained more than I wanted this winter. I don’t race, and I ride alone, and I really enjoy the ride. I will let you know how I get along with the extenders. I love your channel, and all the great info and tips you give. Thanks for everything.
    Francois

  • @fitigued
    @fitigued Před 8 měsíci

    Fascinating!
    Many thanks for sharing this knowledge.

  • @deadpool8340
    @deadpool8340 Před 4 lety +21

    "Synergistically" word of the day 👍

  • @gregtitus2467
    @gregtitus2467 Před 11 hodinami

    Excellent video. Thanks for the effort to put it up!

  • @alexbogna2296
    @alexbogna2296 Před 4 lety +43

    Cam Just wanted to say love all your vids. Your style and versatility in your content is superior and I bloody love it!! It’s always a competition for Dad (55🤫) and I (18) to watch your videos first. It just goes to show how you can tap into a wide audience age range. I essentially love it when I give dad some advice then you come out with a video saying the exact same thing. I think it’s a little frustrating on dads part that I turn out to be right some times. I’ve learnt a lot from your video and appreciate all the time and effort that goes into them ;)

    • @CamNicholls
      @CamNicholls  Před 4 lety +3

      haha! Telling dad how it is. Love it Alex and thanks for sharing. Cam

  • @lmcg436
    @lmcg436 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video. Loving this content recently.

  • @bewg10
    @bewg10 Před 4 lety

    Just checked my cleats and one had crept forward a bit from the full rear position I normally try to maintain for my Look pedals. Thanks Cam for all the great vids!

  • @tomkennedy8617
    @tomkennedy8617 Před 4 lety

    Dang. Not what I expected. Very good, great info, thanks.

  • @racovert1
    @racovert1 Před 3 lety +16

    I loved the biomechanics lesson. Having worked in this part of medicine, I still learned a lot. It’s important to understand the kinetic chain of forces and transfer of power, as well as, how small changes can have a big impact on performance, ankle stability and knee problems. Bravo!

  • @ingmarneple6072
    @ingmarneple6072 Před 4 lety

    Thnx, great information and well explained!

  • @tubbytoast2
    @tubbytoast2 Před 4 lety +1

    Yip same here , I have been going on about q factor for about 20 years , that's why I use Keywin pedals , available in minus and plus axel lengths in 3 millimeters increments up to minus 10 and up to plus 10 , they also have plate Packers for different leg length discripency

  • @rickyhuff
    @rickyhuff Před 3 lety

    Embarrassingly, I just discovered that the cleats on both my pairs of shoes had come loose, and shifted almost all the way forward. I had also been struggling a bit with power output over a long period. Never thought to check, but the other day I glanced at one of my shoes, and there is was. They were all in the wrong position. Now that they are back, I cannot believe how much better I am doing. I am watching this video because I would like to explore optimizing position even more if possible. Fantastic video, thanks for posting!

  • @whitebeardcycles
    @whitebeardcycles Před 4 lety

    Thanks for this, at last someone not just doing the 'generic fit' piece and actually explaining what the effects are, been struggling despite the advice out there. Can't wait for next vids on this. Now a subscriber!👍

    • @whitebeardcycles
      @whitebeardcycles Před 4 lety

      Would really like to see his advice on the saddle fore and aft and the plumb line technique. Is it behind the knee cap i.e top, or is it from front (for example)?

  • @stewartmckenzie3373
    @stewartmckenzie3373 Před 2 lety

    Great explanation of muscle groups and the affect on overall performance

  • @fhowland
    @fhowland Před 3 lety +1

    I wish I was in Australia so I could book a fitting with this guy! Amazing content.

  • @iyfphoto
    @iyfphoto Před 3 lety

    Awesome. Thank you. I'm soaking up this info like a sponge.

  • @selder03
    @selder03 Před 3 lety

    Needed this! About to play with cleat position tomorrow.
    Thank you!
    I'm subbing

    • @CamNicholls
      @CamNicholls  Před 3 lety

      Cheers Scotty, thanks for supporting the channel 👍

  • @neilwhillans1525
    @neilwhillans1525 Před 4 lety +3

    Excellent video Cam. Thanks to you and Neill for this knowledge share👌🏼

  • @jackprick9797
    @jackprick9797 Před 2 lety

    Thank you both for this excellent video.

  • @qibble455
    @qibble455 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for this video:) Great help for me.

  • @zericardo76
    @zericardo76 Před 3 lety

    Wow! This is amazing concept!!!!!!

  • @MrDrewbies
    @MrDrewbies Před 4 lety

    Superb video, cleared up a lot for me.

  • @fysiogeek2524
    @fysiogeek2524 Před 3 lety +1

    Love reducing the q factor on my bikes. Actually used a really old Shimano crankset before what they called low profile with a newer bracket, reduced the q quite a bit.

  • @AbdulAziz-zr8fm
    @AbdulAziz-zr8fm Před 3 lety

    True that! I learned that the hard way on my on .. so thumbs up 👍