Johnny vs. Pokémon: Generation Three
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- čas přidán 19. 04. 2019
- In today's episode, I'm continuing through the Pokémon Generations! This time, we're looking at the third Generation, more specifically, the enhanced re-release Pokémon Emerald! It's new territory for me, so did I miss out?
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#Pokémon #Nintendo #PokémonEmerald - Hry
How fitting that he's covering this now that he has way more trumpets in his theme song.
DrChillbrain bra I’m dead😂
The stars have aligned.
I read that the trumpets are actually French horns.
BRING ON THE TRUMPETS!
That's a pure stroke of genius, amirite? :D :D :D
*cheesy laugh track*
As a Spanish speaker it was really charming to see your Combusken was called "FuegoPollo"
Santiago Finamore FIRE CHICKEEEENN!!!
As an English speaker it was really charming to see you speak English....
Pitty that the Translation for Super Chicken is just Super Pollo as I would love to use a Latin themed name based off that old cartoon for my Torchic. Do you have any ideas for a alternate? I hate not knowing more than numbers and a few words in Spanish, Japanese and Portuguese (A great friend of mine from Brazil learned English and I think it be only fair to learn his native language too, dude is like a brother to me really.) just feel like a ignorant American and I am sure you can understand why I hate that stereotype.
@@Plokman040 I learned Portuguese because of friends/acquaintances as well, I would like to suggest you use games to help you learn/remember words.
Also, try to get your friend to use more words in Portuguese with you.
I called mine Gonorrhea.
So I'm legally blind and have known braille since I was very young, and I remember translating the braille code thing for my friends over the god damn phone. They were literally saying stuff like "Ok it's the middle left and top left and top right dot and then the next one is middle left and top right" etc.
I think it literally took me an hour but I fucking got it right.
You are awsome 😊😊😊
Sorry if this sounds insensitive but if you are blind how did you find this video?
@@kylecampbell565 Screen readers and other tools really help visually impaired users navigate, especially if sites are designed to facilitate them.
Also, while I can't speak for the person at the start of the comment thread, a visually impaired friend of mine told me to not feel bad about asking questions like that, you want to gain knowledge on a subject you don't know things about, so you are asking a question.
WaterManiac Guy Too be legally blind isn’t necessarily full vision loss, it could just be really really bad vision and he needs immense help to see.
@@fuze6474 I have also heard other blind people using tools to comment on videos in here. I can't quite explain how they work but they exist. :)
"If Ash can have a group of companions, why can't we?" -Johnny
Me: [Gen 6 flashbacks intensifies] "Oh Johnny, once you play through X and Y, you'll be sick of companion rivials."
Hahaha
Ehhh, they pretty much stop following you after the second gym
@@fabiodude88 they still follow you from time to time.
I guess I’m the freak who likes the gen 6 ones cause it at least felt you had friends all doing something while you stand there like a creepy mute
@@sun332s7 yes you are although I love the adorable girls.
I mean they're bland but at least they're adorable, especially Serena in the anime, most adorable girl of the entire series.
" Will you 2 *SHUT UP!* "
That had me in absolute stitches.
ground vs water and air is like I own you both lol
That had me dead bruh
I literally died! 😂😂💀💀
I started dying when he said that
I mean he’s not wrong 😂. That’s basically what Rayquaza does to keep those 2 in check
Remember when Johnny said he would do gen 4 in about 10 years? Oh boy.
We need his gen 4 review in 2022!
Daddy Meme Master well it’s been 6 years, 6 months, and 14ish days since then
he's still gotta cover Colosseum and XD. but that wait ain't as long as we feel it is.
7 is still close lol.
You thought he was joking?
I JUST realized that Brock and Roxanne's names are rock puns.
Not shit, they renamed the characters for murican release on purpose so all those 5 year olds would be happy. Originally he has just a regular name, Takeshi
Haohmaru HL yeah, i suppose, but Brock is a real name too. Same with Roxanne.
Almost all of the gen 3 gym leaders are puns, I love it
...oh God damnit
@@HaohmaruHL You really hate Americans.
2:42 "...I guess people still play competitive with their GameBoy Advances, right?"
You underestimate the drive of the Megaman Battle Network community, Johnny
First time I see someone else mention those games, I love the MMBN series :P
@@paladincomics Eh, I honestly prefer the Mega Man Zero series.
Battle Network still has a community?
@@ranonadg There's a few discords with significant overlap which organize netbattling tournaments
The battle Network games were always my summer game. They would always come out may or June every year during the GBA lifespan. I still have my physical copies of MMBN1 to 6 although I only have one version of each. Loved those games to death. Getting all the v3 and v4 chips was always my goal, though I know these changed later on to scale with your s-rank time.
The double battle emphasis is PURELY in Emerald only.
Ruby and Sapphire hardly had any
@@bionicleanime IMO that was for the best. I tried playing Ultra Sun after finishing vanilla Moon the other day and the game nearly killed me.
@@bionicleanime I wouldn't say he half assed it.
You couldn't have expected him to think they'd make such a huge change fundamentally
And boy they overdid it in Emerald...
@Slevin Yep. If you talk to one of the trainers first :P
true
Wally get's fleshed out big time in the remakes he feels like a proper rival and even has his own kickass boss theme.
Oh that theme slaps
I agree.
Gallade fits him so much more than gardevoir
@@greenhillmario I suspect this entire review implies the massive disclaimer, "YES BTW guys, Wally gets fleshed out in ORAS, I'll talk about that when I get to it, please keep calm."
@@greenhillmario He was before his time u_u
"Johnny sets his sights on Sinnoh"
Wait, then why is he picking up the N64, unless...
Hey You, Pikachu.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW!
Brodire2012 what does Sinnoh have to do with Hey You Pikachu? Johnny could be grabbing the N64 for some Pokémon Puzzle League action you know?
Well he DID mention HYP in his Pokemon Snap review and Masaeanela is playing it on her channel right now so yeah. The whole reason I brought up Masae is that SGB started a BK lets play and she started one soon after so with her playing HYP it'd be ironic of that was the next game.
I was thinking Stadium 2 but eeeeehhhhhh
You nailed it.
"ORAS would probably be the definitive gen 3 games"
Pokemon emerald: "am i a joke to you?"
ORAS was pathetically easy
@@drasconboy6349 Also ORAS lead to the whole mega universe mentality which makes me hate it X and Y were connected to gen 5. Every game past ORAS has been alternate universe I have no clue how they will handle the new gen after Sumo and Ultra Sumo. Yes I know most people don;t care about the timeline I have made peace with that a long time ago.
ORAS is also lacking features from a game released over 15 years ago.
@@drasconboy6349 So?
I'm probably the minority out there that like ORAS two time more than Emerald. I don't know. After what Johnny says, I feel like Emerald is lacklustering, underwhelming & sometimes boring than the other Pokemon games I've played; with the exception of Red, Blue and Yellow & even X & Y.
"Will you two SHUT UP?!"
So... bickering neighbors get slapped by the landlord.
Omg this comment is genius
That part in the vid had me in stitches, the way he timed that with the Roar was PERFECT!
That's how pathetically laughable it is.
More like shot at with an RPG
It was super effective
*goes through the Fire types found in Hoenn*
Somewhere in the Fiery Path, a lonely Torkoal weeps, forgotten by Johnny with no chance of joining his team.
Well even Torkoal is pretty useless.
@@jjc4924 Competitively yes, Torkoal sucks.
In game however it's pretty good fire type. It can take a beating from physical attacks, deal decent damage with both physical and special attacks, and it's white smoke ability negates stat reductions from opponents.
I always get Torkoal (if I didn't choose Torchic) as my fire type in Hoen.
@@austinstewart7601 Same
At the very least, Camerupt & Torkoal did get a little better with Gen. 4 & especially Gen. 5. It's not much, but it is pretty good with them now.
@@jjc4924 I'd say Gen 7 is where Torkoal is at it's best. Drought for an ability is really nice, even if the weather hasn't been permanent for 6+ years now.
"They are the weakest rivals I've seen so far, they are just the epitome of a background character"
*Oh, Johnny, we have much to discuss*
Gen 6 says hi. Heck it's not even just the rivals that were easy, the whole game was.
@@DMindGaming At least Serena and Shauna tried to be relevant with full teams. Brendan/May was just horrible
To be fair, he explicitly said so far, so that's not getting into the only other real contenders of Gen 6 yet.
I know, but that's what makes it so funny to me. Johnny legit has no idea what he's getting into and for something like Pokemon, that's a rare thing these days.
I think the last actually good rival was N
4:01 "Why can't we start forming a [trainer] party here?"
Two words: Generation Six.
You'll understand once you get to it
JC101 God I hated them.
Just because it sucked there doesn't mean they can't improve.
Hell Gen 5 had the two rivals fron Black and White that prove mutiple rivals can work.
if you watched sgb gen 1 john played trough x off camera and gave his thoughts on the game as he was recording the videos
"Will you two SHATTAAP"
omg, animate this, Johnny
That was amazing, I truly lost it
Yes lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
16:47
So did I! I literally woke my family up laughing as hard as I did!
That part was awesome haha
I like that.
This wouldn't be a SomecallmeJohnny review about Pokemon if he didn't kill every legendary
Johnny (imitating Pekoms): Legendaries who think they're invincible have short life spans.
"Feel that Earthquake! (Evil laugh)"
He's not gonna like being forced to catch Reshiram and/or Zekrom in Black/White
It's probably a joke, but I think that would be dumb to complain about given how much the game builds up to that moment
I like catching and using legendaries. Just the idea of commanding what is basically a god/titan is intriguing...
Funnily enough with all the tones indicative of Kanto, the Slateport Museum mentions that the Abandoned Ship bares a heavy resemblance to the S.S. Anne.
This explains why the S.S. Aqua is in use instead during Gen 2. The S.S. Anne frigging CRASHED IN HOENN!
It was the S.S. Cactus according to a researcher in the abandoned ship.
You think Slaking is just strong, get this
His base stat total is 670. Why is this important?
Mewtwo, Rayquaza, basically all the big Mascot Legendary's have 680 base stat total
He's literally 10 stats under gods
SLAKING IS A GOD!
I just wish it had a better ability than truant. Even with those stats that ability makes him hot garbage rip
@@donovanmc3227 thats why you skill swap on doubles.
MECHASWORLD2020 fair but that’s something that usually only works in doubles, and it does require a turn of set up which can be dangerous in doubles. However something cool I saw onetime was cofagrigus with eject button, gets hit with a contact move, swaps out to slaking, pursuit trap for mummy ability instantly, it was pretty cool.
Donovan Mc I mean thing is if slaking got a new ability it could very easily shoot all the way up to UU-Uber’s cause of its stats primarily speed due to it being a base 100 which if scarfed with 160 attack it will wreck house. But also there’s fact that megas a really powerful which are easily handled I mean mega heracross is in UUBL so I don’t know how much it would shoot up.
"Would you too SHUT UP" I absolutely lost it when he said that 🤣🤣🤣
*two
I did too. He made Raquayza sound like an older brother getting annoyed at his younger siblings for being too loud.
@@aewilliams1171 Yeah, the older brother sleeping upstairs during the day after his night shift comes down to tell the twins to SHUT IT and let him sleep.
16:47
Johny: I would not do Dragon Quest before Final Fantasy
Also Johny: *does Kingdom Hearts before Final Fantasy*
well to be fair one of his first videos was ranting about kingdom hearts :P
probably because kingdom hearts is not similar to final fantasy. it has final fantasy """characters""" in it, but aside from that they're completely different games.
I don’t even get why he said that. Surely doing Dragon Quest before Final Fantasy would make more sense.
@@ITNODove It only makes sense if he was exposed to Dragon Quest first. Which, from what I can tell, he was not.
@@ITNODove Final Fantasy is bigger than Dragon Quest.
16:46 when Matt and Elliot are arguing about something and they wake up Johnny who been working all night.
"I AM BAG"
- Johnny
The Pikachu line can actually be caught in the main game - Pikachu is obtainable in the safari zone. Also, rock smash doesn’t make secret bases, secret power does.
Bleh, the Safari Zone.
Johnny: every game has 8 gym leaders and elite 4.
Alola: hold my malasada
You're not funny.
Basic ass joke
I mean, trials and kahunas aren't THAT different.
And that's why I'm hesitant to pick up Gen VII. They took out one of the best parts of Pokemon; the Gym Battles.
Robert then fuck off
smashmaster521 don’t be, the trials aren’t that different from gyms in terms of interesting challenges and the 4 kahunas are basically the equivalent of gym leaders. Yeah there is only 4, but there are also the trial Totem Pokémon that are basically steroids regular Pokémon but with a unique strategy and stat boost matching the type that they are. They are really fun and are honestly my favorite games in the franchise because of how unique and fun they were.
If it means anything the pokemon emerald instruction book gave you a guide on what each bit of braille is so it wasn't that bad honestly.
yea but even then noone really read manuals, especially not for late game content like that. and nowadays, the boxes and manuals are long gone for many copies.
@@dialga236 Context, during the time manuals were basically included with everything
You think developers had the foresight to know that the internet was going to be a thing?
@@drasconboy6349 the internet had been a thing for at least 5 years by this point...
How does your Magikarp feel?
*EXISTS*
You thought Hoenn didn't have enough memorable locations? What??? I am just...baffled
I respect the use of Flygon though. That's the best one!
Yeah, that really shocked me. Hoenn has some of the most unique cities and landmarks in the series. Fortree, Fallarbor, Lavaridge, Mossdeep, Sootopolis, Pacifidlog... there's tons
Edit: Lowkey find it funny how much people fought me for saying Pacifidlog. I thought Fallarbor would be the trigger lmao
@@somasora7 How is Pacifidlog memorable?
@@rjante2236 It's memorable for its location and nothing more. But still, a village built on top of a major water route is something unique at least.
@@rjante2236 I mean it's unique, which makes it pretty memorable.
@@jacobmonks3722 The idea of it is unique, I agree.
Some may have had Gen 1 and 2, but Hoenn and Sinnoh were MY childhood!
Heracross X so true
Yeah. Although Gen 5/6 were where I really started. My first Pokémon game was actually Mystery Dungeon on 3DS, the first one on it. I forget what it’s called
Sadly though I can’t really play a lot of the older games because of how gen 6 and onward had the broken exp share. I’m playing emerald now and it’s different. Although I have beaten omega ruby and alpha sapphire a bunch of times.
Same
I skipped gen 3, but it did introduce two of my favourite Pokémon with Gardevoir and Roselia (later Roserade)
Almost the same as me, Sinnoh and Unova are my childhood
Hoenn being weird is exactly why I love it. To me personally no other region has been as interesting to explore outside of the linear route, the Regi's side quest being the highlight of this.
Team Aqua wants to expand the sea
Like Hoenn doesn't already have enough water...
Ignore this comment hah!
The Pokémon World is based off of Earth which is 70% water..
Yet another reason to like Groudon more than I already do.
@@mynameismmandimheretosay7979 I want to hug you so bad right now but I can't cause my computer screen keeps getting in the way.
7/10 to much water
hoenn love double battle
*laugh in colosseum*
If you think gen 3 lacks fire types just wait until Diamond and Pearl. _Hoo_ _boy._
I love Gen 4, but god damn that's easily one of the worst parts of Diamond and Pearl. Thankfully it was somewhat fixed in Platinum, but doesn't change the fact that there's hardly any new fire pokemon in Gen 4.
I realized that when playing Pearl as a child....
Enjoy your choice of only Ponyta as a fire type option if you didn't choose chimchar as your starter.
@@Weareonenation303 cant you also get flareon, heatran, or magmar
@@kronos13blackcat only in platinum
That Regi puzzle blew my childhood mind back in the day. Cracking open our family Encyclopedia to find braille and piecing it all together was amazing!
gotta disagree with how you feel that there's not many memorable locations or how its very similar to kanto but good video regardless :^)
Well he is right, though. Hoenn does look like an almost rehash of Kanto. For example. U walk to the grass without an starter. And than you get an starter and started battling. U go to an next town & up to an route & than come all the way back to the professor's lab. U start your journey. U can get an Rattata ( Zigzagoon ), Wingull ( Spearow ), Pidgey ( Tailow ) like Pokemon for your first capture. U go to an town where the first Gym is, but u can't compete yet until later in the game. There's an rehash Viridian Foreat area where u can get an Caterpie like Pokemon that can evolve into an Butterfree or Beedrill like. U can get an Oddish ( Seedot ) or an Bellsprout ( Lotad ) and there final evolutions is required to use an stone. First Gym is an Rock type like Brock was. There's an bicycle route where u can ride though the road only with bikes; like in Kanto, 3rd Gym Leader is an Electric type like Lt. Surge. There's an Grimer & Muk ( Gulphin & Swalot ) replica. There's an sanctuary that looks exactly like the mansion from Kanto & the evil organizations are there. 3/4 of the Elite Four are Ghost, Ice & Dragons types. I can go on.
Here's more. An weak Magikarp like Pokemon that can evolve into an powerful Gyrados like Pokemon. An Krabby & Kingler like Pokemon. An Dratini & Dragonair like that will eventually become Dragonite with an Dragon/Flying that levels up way in the exact way. Is there any more that I'm missing?
...and then you proceed to not explain why you disagree. I hate comments like these.
@@poudink5791 You don't necessarily need to explain yourself in a subjective opinion. There is no objectively wrong answer here, so I don't see any problem with it.
@@crew7104 if you comment on a video that gives actual points and reasons to support their opinion just to say that you disagree, what's point? obviously people aren't going to agree with you, you gave no explanation. yet somehow this still got 67 likes. also this is not completely subjective opinions. hoenn being similar to kanto is more on the objective side.
The Gen 3 manual had the actual braille alphabet in it, so you could decipher the thing.
READING THE GAME MANUAL OMEGALUL
Also FR/LG did the same thing xD
Only in the European manual. North American manual didn't have the Braille alphabet. You have to get the strategy guide or have something that showed the Braille alphabet. (Which I was lucky to have that I got a "Spy Survival" booklet that was at my school book fair which had Braille. It felt like I was discovering the biggest secret in Pokemon with how criptic the requirement was to unlock the Regis)
@@MrGamer1992 Wait, the North American manual really didn't have the Braille alphabet? I skipped it like most burnt out Gen 1 kids. That and my parents didn't buy me a GBA
@@nousername191 I started my Pokemon craze in Gen 2 with Crystal. Then I continued in Gen 3 with RSE. I played through those games so many times, I practically know where everything is (in terms oh how to progress and the secrets like the Regis for example. I'm glad I bought that booklet)
But I skipped gen 4 mostly because I didn't have a DS at the time, and by the time I finally got a DS, Gen 5 was out so I played that instead.
Edit: Nope, NA manuals didn't have Braille sadly :(
Wasn't there a room in the game with 26 different "signs" with one letter in braille each that you were supposed to figure out was teaching you the braille alphabet? Or was that only in FR/LG?
Yeah, I remember the Emerald manual literally telling the player some mysteries could be in Braille.
Geez, Ted, I thought you wanted a Kirby marathon, now you're asking for Dragon Quest? One at a time here.
I guess Ted gave up on Johnny doing a Kirby marathon and thought he’d be more inclined to do Dragon Quest.
John and him made another bet, Where he had to beat Resident Evil 4 before Halloween 2017 and if he did it John would review any one game of Ted's choosing and he managed to do it (he even livestreamed it and those streams can be found on the BrainScratchComms channel) Ted wants him to review I think it was Dragon Quest V, he's going roughly a year or two later and no dragon quest review, Ted can't win can't he
Is it bad that I would prefer a Persona marathon?
omegaman15 with Joker in Smash, and Persona Q2 coming soon, the hype is too good for your wish to be bad.
@@omegaman255 Nah I've been wanting him to do a Persona marathon for awhile now. But I'm not expecting one anytime soon. He said he isn't a persona guy on twitter (although I don't believe he has played any of the modern games unless he's said otherwise recently). Don't think he's interested in playing the games yet, but I think he will give them a try sometime. Maybe he'll be more inclined to play them when he watches Matt play P3 or P4 on SGB.
Ted is that friend who suggests and talks up a game to you until your interests in it plummet.
That's probably why we haven't gotten a Kirby Marathon yet.
@@smashmaster521 That and Johnny doesn't particularly like Kirby games.
Doing Emerald on 4/20...
Clever
Very clever
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I'm glad someone's keeping track of this.
Have fun! (You poor bastard)
@ParaChomp Maybe we just like all the same youtubers.
16:47 lmao that got me, man it would have funny as hell if Rayquaza actually said that in the games.
*Still waiting anxiously for Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue/Red Rescue Team review*
Lucas Vinicius Pires If he talks about those, he should do the same for the explorers games.
"Every region has 8 gym leaders and an elite four"
Laughs in gen 7
He forgot Gen 7 for reasons.
Shadow the CZcamsr I actually liked SM and USUM
K
The stupid island trials are gyms, they just aren't called that. You still collect badges and complete gyms with different names attached.
Silim expect you get a new z crystal instead of a badge, no TM, and some of the totem Pokemon provided more of a challenge then any gym leader before.
You always make my Mornings Great when you upload by this time feels like I'm watching a Saturday Morning Cartoon
This is my absolute favorite Gen of Pokemon and ive been waiting for your take on it for years man.
Trumpets a la game
This gen is bagpipes
Rayquaza is that parent trying to sleep, while their two kids are beating each other up.
I would say, in terms of locations, hoenn is miles more memorable than kanto or johto.
I disagree. But whatever . It's an opinion.
Though I will say that I remembered some areas mostly if because I had to overlapped the areas more than 2 times for my progression & it is annoying & boring.
same, kanto and johto are boring at best imo
Does Jonny littary thinks ash kidnaps people to be his friends
I disagree with him on Johto! It's less interesting as with Kanto. The thing a region needs is a good lore and myths behind it, and Sinnoh and Unova had that! Kanto and Johto are completely overrated!
@@sonicfan2403 Stop yelling. Also something being overrated does not equate to bad quality. It just means that the majority of people have seen the same thing in a similar perspective. I do agree that Johto isn't that interesting of a region but to be fair, most of the regions in Pokemon aren't interesting.
A correction, Johnny. You don't use Rock Smash on the walls for secret bases. You use Secret Power.
"Where do you come from?"
Brandon: Yes
14:48 you should read the RS arc of Pokémon adventures. Especially for Ruby and sapphire, the arc was amazing. And the relationship between ruby and his dad was super compelling
the regi's puzzle was awesome. the original instruction booklet had a specific section with the braille inside and as a kid it was so satisfying working out what each one said.
*Johnny uploads Gen 3 Video*
Get the Trumpets ready!
Jazzy Jefferson Say are you the same Jazzy Jefferson from WWP chat?
The "trumpets" in the Gen 3 games are actually French horns.
@@brianlobo2884 yup that's me
With all honesty, I think most of your criticisms are things I find endearing about the franchise as a whole. To each his own, of course...
I feel like Johnny doesn't really "get" Pokémon. He dislikes the fact that your MC doesn't have a personality, but that's kind of the point. You're supposed to self-insert. YOU ARE the main character (it is an RPG, after all). He also gets disappointed with the way the Kyogre VS Groudon conflict ends, but doesn't really elaborate why or how he'd make it better or something.
IMO, Johnny cares too much about story in video games, to the point that he seems to enjoy them less for that if his standards aren't met. Sure, that can be a valid criticism if the game puts a lot of emphasis on story (like Kindom Hearts), but not for something like Pokémon.
Well to be fair. He does have an point.
My biggest problem with Emerald is that there are so many HM's that are permanent to proceed to the game & some of them aren't active into the overworld until after you beat an certain Gym Leader that u are now required with. With Fly being an example. And this game has so many backtracking or padding that you'll be getting irritating of. Best example is you Especially with some HM'S that aren't autorized until you beaten the Gym. That is poorly design. And the Pokemon variety and rosters of the game is so lacking that I just wish there were more & the trainers are some of the worst of the series because they been reusing Poochyena, Wingulls or any Pokemons over & over again that you just wish there were more. Also the switching of bike techs is annoying.
@@MrTiagosuperWell every Pokemon games has it's flaws. So what makes Emerald so perfect than the rest? Huh?
I remember using the braille from the guidebook to unlock one of the Regi Chambers while also trying my goddamn hardest to translate the language itself as well since English wasn't my first language, the game wasn't translated to my language and I was like 9 or something.
Then, while I was halfway translating, the game was like "Oh you poor soul" and just opened the door.
Turns out to open the gate for Regice you had to do NOTHING. Still can't decide whether the game helped me on that one or insulted me for taking too long...
Ngl, that’s funny af
Hmm... I feel like a lot of Hoenn's identity was overlooked in this review. There were a ton of memorable landmarks introduced in this region in my opinion, for example: you could climb up and explore an active volcano, a city that is entirely made up of tree houses, a city that resides inside an inactive volcano (which, mind you, can only be accessed by diving underwater and resurfacing after entering an underwater cave), and a town based entirely in the middle of the ocean and made up of only floating logs and wooden planks to name a few. Hoenn was also the first region to have a desert in a Pokemon game. Idk, in my opinion, Hoenn stands out a ton from the other regions and without a doubt has its own identity. Sure, there are things drawn from Kanto like the cycling road and whatnot (but almost all Pokemon games share these similarities now), but it also brought a substantial amount of new and memorable locations to the table as well.
In terms of variety, maybe. But in terms of the landmarks and exploration, not so much.
Honestly, I would've enjoyed it if the game didn't have me to backtrack more than 3 times just to go from my progression and despite how open space Hoenn is, it doesn't do it that very well.
@@jjc4924 Hmm, I would have to kindly disagree. There are a lot of distinguishable landmarks such as the Abandoned Ship, Mt. Chimney, Mt. Pyre, Mirage Tower, Sky Tower, Trick House, New Mauville, Trainer Hill, all the chambers, etc.
I'm also confused as to why you mentioned exploration is lacking, then describe how open Hoenn is in the next paragraph? How I saw it, the routes are extremely expansive and encourage exploration with examples like Route 111 (the desert), Route 119, and 120. As for backtracking, I don't really recall having to backtrack at all...
Jordan. I don't know. The way that the game progresses you makes no sense and the way the game handles is progression is really tedious. Especially with the whole overbundents of HM'S the game throws at you and how some aren't autorized until after you beaten an certain Gym to unlock; with Fly being an example that u can't activate until you beaten the 6th gym. It's becomes even more tedious.
Like after getting an badge from Rustboro City, there's an connection between an city in an next cave and through the area where meteor cave is at. But there's rocks that u can't get through there and u have to get an Rock Smash for it. So I have to go back near Petalburg to talk the sailor that I rescued it's Wingull to take me towards the next town. That is just one backtracking. But than I go to the volcanic area, to Fallabar Town and to the caves of meteors to stop Team Magma or Aqua. Next after I stop Team Magma or Aqua at the meteor cave, I have to come all the way back to Fallabar Town and the volcanic area where an path to an trolly is opened, than I have to face the evil team again and head to Lavaridge Town. That's also backtracking. And than after my 4th Gym Badge in Lavaridge Town, I have to go all the way back to Petalburg City to face it's dad for the fifth gym. So I have to walk all the way back without having Fly for an shortcut to face Norman for the fifth Badge. Like ok? We're going there already? So I have to do another backtracking again for the 3rd time. And than after beating Norman and receiving Surf, I had to go back to Mauville Town and head west for an new location. That's the 4th time I had to backtrack. Arriving at Fortree City, an invisible wall blockes the 6th Gym, head to routes, meet Steven & giving me his Devon Scope, going back to Fortree City and use it to chase away an invisible wall; which was an Kecleon, and doing the 6th gym. That's the 5th backtracking. After Fortree City, I head back to the route where I met Steven and continuing the path, running through route 121 ( I think. I'm not sure. ), arriving at an town where an mall is at; only realizing that I went back to route 121 ( Again. I think. I'm not sure. ) for an another route that I skip and heading towards Mt. Pyre; you know the cemetary one that looks like the cemetery tower from Gen. 1, where once again Magma or Aqua are at. That's the 6th time I've had to backtrack. But than I have to travel back to the town where the mall is; only I once again realized that the water route is block because of the evil organizations scheme, heading to there hideout and than I have to fly all the way back to that volcanic area where tbe trolly was, where another path to an other evil organizations is at, defeat them and I have to fly back to the town where the mall is at to where the rest of the route is nothing but surfing through water. That's about 7th, 8th and 9th time I have to backtrack again. Granted, at least I can use Fly now to take an shortcut. But still. That's still more than 5 times that I've had to go back & forth and back & forth to the same damn areas that I already travel through more than 3 times already. And it isn't optional. It's mandatory. The game really wants you to head to these stupid craps you'll already wwnt through juat for an new breaching path that we could've explored it from the beginning.
Honestly, the way that the game handles it's structured of the game is the game's biggest problem for me. If it didn't have any of this bullcrap that the game wanted you to progress, than I would've had an good time with the game. But unfortunately, it doesn't. It is full of padding. And again, combined with the overbundent of HM issues that the game throws at you, it is really tedious. I really didn't enjoyed it as I was hoping it will. I can't handled it's structure. It's almost as bad as Zelda: Skyward Sword was.
@@jjc4924 The HM issue is something I can agree on, but the backtracking wasn't really an issue in my experience. A lot of the examples you shared aren't necessarily backtracking (like the one you gave with the Fortree gym and Steven/Devon scope), but rather a roadblock which is present in almost every Pokemon game. The reason why I didn't have many issues is the fact that the developers intentionally designed routes to be much faster to navigate when coming back with things like cliffs and having you breeze through descending Mt. Chimney.
I never really found any of these things tedious and as far as things are concerned, almost every Pokemon entry has backtracking. Kanto and Sinnoh come to mind having fetch quests within minutes of starting the game. Sinnoh's being the worst offender with how long and tedious the first route is and how large the grass patches are (mixed with the slow engine, makes it a nightmare).
With that said, I kinda see where you're coming from; however, I didn't really share the frustration you experienced (minus the HM management). But to each their own.
Jordan. I gonna have to disagree with you about there about the padding not being tedious. Because it sorta is. And the way it's design isn't what I call an genius or it doesn't get any faster.
I can sorta see what you mean by that. But it still doesn't make excuses of how the game decision progression and making me backtrack so many times makes it an absolute chore from my enjoyment. I just wish it handles it structure way better than it should've been. Which is why I'm thankful that the remake of Gen. 3 fixes that problem for me. So that makes it less tedious. It's still there in some extent. But not as overkilled as Emerald. Plus with less overbudent of HM's.
As for Kanto or Sinnoh having bad padding. I'm gonna disagree in some extents as well. Kanto was at least non-linear, it's optional and doesn't rely on HM's that much. So that gets an pass. And while Sinnoh does have some padding moments, I don't find it nearly as bad as Hoenn was. At least I can use Fly without having to wait for it to autorized at the later 2nd halve of the game.
Also, I do agree that Sinnoh has it's very slow moments throughout the entire game. But that only happens in Diamond & Pearl.
"Every game has 8 GYM Leaders"
Gen 7: *Am I a joke to you?*
Yes.
Considering that you took out a series staple, Gen 7, I'd say you are indeed a joke. I mean, collecting Gym Badges by battling Gym Leaders who put your skills to the test is why I play Pokemon games, so what the hell am I supposed to do when you take them out?
@@smashmaster521 Agreed. I don't mind Gamefreak trying something new for pokemon. However, the island trials and Z-crystals felt redundant because gen 7 all ended with yet another pokemon league.
Why swap a staple of the series if the end result is the same?
My biggest problem however was the handholding. I think every single route in the gen 7 games had 1 to 3 cutscenes/conversations that keep pointing you to go there or do this etc.
@@smashmaster521 Completing trials duh... What I said was joke, Gen 7 still being one of the best pokemon gens in my opinion. If you're playing pokemon just for Gym Battles that's your thing, but Alola still was a really nice breath of fresh air.
@@remusciuciu2840 I was joking too. I don't hate Gen VII just because it took out Gym Battles (even that's really the only thing I play Pokemon for). It's just baffling that they took them out to begin with when they've been a series staple for so long.
"I'm sure [Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire] added a lot to make these the definitive Gen 3 experience"
haha, yeah, about that...
Well, by default having gen 6 mechanics makes the games have way more content but yeah, unlike hgss, they just did a shot for shot remake of ruby and sapphire up until sootopolis and shoved anything emerald related to postgame. ORAS is a shiny hunting haven though with dexnaving and all of the legendaries.
The less said about the Delta Episode and the "Battle Frontier project" the better.
@@moltz4866 why?
@@goldmemberpb even before sootipolis they added some weird "lore" about multiverses to fit the 3rd gen and the weird X/Y stuff into the game. Not to mention that one team magma girl that was all tsundere for you lol
@@chuyrenteria6252 delta episode was battle frontier's replacement, which was only about an hour long and gave you literally the most broken pokemon in the franchise which made the fight after you catch it beyond a joke
You hit the nail on the head to say the Regis thing was captivating back in the day! As a kid finding the secret cave on accident and feeling like youre diving into and digging through this ancient mystery was amazing. The experimentation and solving the riddles was super cool and did a lot of what I wish the Unown mystery did in gen 2. Cool side quest, even if it got to be a bit cryptic at times
The braille section was fun for me as a kid. Making a braille legend on a piece of paper and deciphering the clues felt awesome in elementary school
19:52 Cursor sighted, emulator confirmed.
I think this was from the livestream
7:25
It's not Rock Smash, Johnny. The move's name is Secret Power.
I've literally been waiting for you to continue Pokemon for like 7 years thank god.
The neat thing about secret bases was when you mix records with other players, their respective bases also show up in your game, and their avatar and team can be battled.
I am so hyped for you rewiewing black and white as it is by far my favourite game in the series
Pfp source? ;)
@@elijahtoombs3524 Hinca P`s patreon video
Is he skipping gen 4?
Gen. 5 is my absolute favorite. Can't wait for that.
Gen 5 Best Gen.
_Johnny, you madman. This is a great birthday gift!_
HAPPY BIRTHDAY! 🎊🎉🎁🍰🍹🎂🍹🍰🎁🎉🎊
Indιgσ 'IѦא' Same here! Happy Birthday as well!
"Gen 3 has one of the weakest rivals in the series so far"
*look at my Pokemon X copy*
Oh boy...
Naw Gen 3 still has the weakest rival. The problem was fixed in ORAS though.
Brendon/May still sucked more ass.
At least in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, there starter Pomemon went up to there final evolution & with it's Mega Evolution.
@ParaChomp what friendship?
literally all those characters (except the tan girl which I forgot her name) are either walking tutorials or obstacles (aka blocking the damn route for nothing)
Johnny please... fire emblem series... I’ve been waiting
A W A K E N I N G
He doesn't like tactic games so I'm not sure he'll have anything to say although id like to see a review I don't think he will be overly positive some may even call it negative
They also completely reworked the EV and IV systems, and we’ve been stuck with these systems ever since.
To be fair, these systems are WAY better than the previous ones.
Sterling Muse
In principle, sure. In execution, they’re almost never explained to the player (the closest is Super Training), and for IVs, their existence is practically the main reason why hacking in VGC is a very big thing, almost baked into it, even.
@@blepthebleep469 Doesn't gen 7 have ways to adjust them without hacking though? I haven't been up to date with it since gen 6, but I thought that was the case
Sterling Muse
You’re referring to Hyper Training, and you’re somewhat right, a Hyper Trained stat is treated like a max IV stat.
The problem with that system is that it requires the Pokémon to be Lv.100 (a hard enough feat as is), and it requires the use of a item that is only gained through RNG mechanics.
Their solution to a problematic RNG mechanic is to layer it with another problematic RNG mechanic.
Pokemon Showdown shows just how much it adds so damn much to Pokemon gameplay and how versatille Pokemon now is. Even during the main story, it makes every Pokemon you get feel unique, and therefore more "real." Natures that would be trash in a competitive setting could be made somewhat useful in the main game-for example, a Pokemon that's a fast sweeper in a competitive setting could have a more defensive nature in a playthrough of the main story, and that defensive nature could be what causes that Pokemon to hang on by very little HP and cause you to win a major battle, giving you memories of that particular Pokemon and having it be special and unique.
But yes, it's absolutely ridiculous how time consuming and luck-based it is to legitimately make a competitive-ready Pokemon, even now.
Hearing the potential DragonQuest is already making my day
Fun fact: That pronounciation of Pokemon that sounds like it has an "uh" sound in the middle uses the vowel sound known as "schwa". It's the most common vowel in the English language, represented by an e rotated 180° in phonetic spellings, and can be represented by a, e, i, o, u, or even y depending on the context. Other examples include the a's in "America", the u in "stun", the io in "pronunciation", and many many more.
That’s exactly it Johnny, gen 3 was my first Pokémon game and the regi puzzles were so interesting.
I was kind of hoping that side thing would be the first Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, but once I saw that N64 on camera, Hey You, Pikachu! just came knocking hard in my mind.
As an Alaskan, I really appreciate 4:45. It sucks to have the sun shining through your window at midnight in the summer.
I can’t even express how long i’ve waited on this
"Every Pokémon game has eight gym leaders...
Sun and Moon: "Hold my beer"
Me: No thanks. I'll stick to the Pokemon games that have Gym Battles.
U don't need to have an Gym Leader to have an good game. Just be thankful Sun and Moon did something differently from once.
JJ C can you rank your favorite gens?
Waited years for this. My favorite gen.
I like how he stuttered when saying Regice as if he also didn’t even know how to pronounce it.
Not even The Pokemon Company knew how to pronounce it for a while. They flipped between "rehj-ice" and "rehj-E-ice" for a bit before settling on the latter.
Love when my two favourite CZcams’s, ERB and SCMJ, upload in the same day!
Just found your channel and subscribed! Couldn’t pick a better video than this one to start off with 👍
A SomeCallMeJohnny video will always start my Saturday, well, day.
A Johnny episode in the morning always make my day.
That Alaskan joke was spot on. It doesn't get dark until 10 pm where I'm at and its only getting brighter
A Johnny vs. Review on my Birthday! this is awesome!
Generation III may have been my introduction to the series, but Generation VII won me over in terms of favorite region.
Also, Johnny, you missed the opportunity during the Rayquaza sequence to use "HEY, CUT THAT SH-T OUT. Okay bye teehee!"
To be fair gen 7 has a good story and characters but my heart always on gen 4&5 like from a great story, interesting characters,great Pokemon introduce in those gens,amazing soundtrack,And best lore on the legendaries (and is Lillie still best girl in alola?)
I love Gen. 7 as well, more specifically; Sun and Moon. It's right up there with Gen. 2 + it's remake & the Gen. 5 games as one of the best Pokemon games out there & one of my favorite games of the series. Probably it's neck to neck with Black 2 and White 2 for my favorite Pokemon games.
Alola is Hoenn, but better.
Johnny dude, you should cover cover Pokemon Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness to accomplish the Gen 3 a-thon.
*Aw yee.*
Good idea
He did say that the next episode would feature a side game, so I think it's a safe bet that he'll cover the Gamecube games.
@@Darkraifan2009 Then why did he grab his N64 while Ted was doing his best impression of the Pokemon narrator?
At the very least, he should check out their music.
I'm not a big fan of the games themselves anymore, though x)
this video came out just a day after i finished omega ruby for the first time! i have a somewhat poorly bootlegged copy of emerald that i never quite finished, i'll have to go back to that soon. having had a largely awful morning, seeing this in my sub box really made things better. fantastic video as always!
God damn if that new intro isn't just smooth as silk and so cool.
As for the review I think you covered it super well but I think there's like a layer that you can't really experience with how special the secret bases were. I still have memories of actually sharing with everyone at my school in order to get as many others in my game possible. Plus it was fun to think you had a secret location no one knew about.
The part where you made Rayquaza yell "Would you two SHADDAP?!" made me lose it. XD
I was listening to the Pokemon XY anime theme song then Johnny uploads a Pokemon video, coincidence? I think NOT!
FonzoMcGeek
Listen to the Phoenix Wright opening next
I always kinda want to raise my own coffee cup back at Johnny.
Ahdunno, this intro is just so chill and inviting. Makes me wanna toast back.
Gen 3 was my gateway into the Pokémon Franchise that means Hoenn is my Region and Homeland. I have so many fond memories of it as a child and it means a lot to me, Gen 4 is my second fave too and is also very memorable. I used Treeko and Chimchar on my first playthroughs.
YES FINALLY GEN 3
Okay so I love your intro it's the perfect match for you and your content, smooth, jazzy, and omg it's so good. Thank you Tee for your work and thank you John for your work as well.
I loved Pokémon Emerald! It was my first exposure to the Pokémon world!
I've literally been waiting for this since the gen 1 review!!!!1!
@14:47 - (remembers the Pokemon Adventure manga's Hoenn arc exists)
Johnny... You're not the only one who saw the missed potential(and capitalized on it)
No one can deflect the power of Emerald Splash!
No one can just deflect the Emerald Splash!
No one can just deflect the-
No one can-
No one can just deflect the Emerald-
No one can just-
No one-
*NO ONE CAN JUST DEFLECT THE EMERALD SPLASH!*
(Dies in Kakyoin)
Good video as ever, Johnny.
And I’m now subscribing. You deserve it.
Great review Johnny. I was hoping you would do it more like the old ones, where you go gym to gym and explain the plot in between. But still awesome