One INCREDIBLE reveal from Games Workshop... and an OK one too
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Today we take a look at the Brood Terror/Brood Horror and Tornus the Redeemed. One I absolutely love, the other is... fine. Mostly quite good. Mostly.
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i think the phrase you're looking for with the "foldy bit with the orb at the back" is something to the effect of "a prosthetic being rejected". It looks vile and awesome, glad you pointed it out
The whole 'unwilling donor' it's quite a convoluted way of saying that to create one of these they stitch a rival Master Moulder into it. 'It requires sacrifice - typically unwilling, as is the Skaven way - on the part of a Master Moulder'
ghal maraz is the hammer that sigmar used to wield, so the celestant-prime basically just went: "I'm gonna beat the chaos out of you."
As someone who doesn't collect Stormcast, I kinda love it. It looks like a boss you'd see in an RPG. Honestly I think it'd be cooler if he just didn't have legs, like he was a wraith that just hovered over the ground.
99% of the issues with these models is the helmets
Do the wings on Tornus the Redeemed seem reminiscent of Mortarian's moth wings? That would make sense, since his whole thing is being the first redeemed champion of Nurgle.
Wait it has legs? I didn’t see any
Skaven be the OG kitbashers before the glorious kitbashers of today
Kirioth gushes over a rat for 15 minutes then and there's this guy 😂
If I was a Skaven player I’d 100% get that 80’s Geiger horror monstrosity.
But since I’m a God-King simp first & foremaost I’m getting my boi Tornus at any cost!
Been waiting for his glorious arrival to model form since he first appeared in the 2016 God-Beast campaign and he Does Not disappoint! 🤩
Literally everything I love about Stormcast Eternals is in that model from the over-the-top form, magi-tech apparatus, angelic visage & badass demigod masks along with a super stylish high fantasy weapon.
He looks like a Final Fantasy or Diablo end game boss and is rocking it!
I might get one of each. Tornus in his amazing Hallowed Knights look with resplendent golden flame wings & twin-glaive while the runesword knight-Azyros gets the Hammers treatment but I go all in on blue Azyr flames(I get they didn’t want too much blue down there so went for a ethereal burn away corruption black flame effect but we don’t play an demigod army of Thors, wizard dragons & angels for subtlety ;) )
Personally I really like how the robes hang because it makes it feel like the robes are acting as the legs in a symbolic manner without actually chopping the mini in half. With the helmet it really makes it seem inhuman and more of an angelic statue or automata than a human being
Yeah I was looking at that and thinking it'd be perfect for a D&D mini. Use it if your players are ever fighting any of the divines as a solar or planetar.
To me, it looks like they tried to make the silhouette into an aquila.
That Brood Horror would make a perfect basis for some 40k Nurgle daemonic monstrosity (or even an unaligned daemonic monstrosity). The Stormcast would be a perfect for a Tzeentch Daemon Prince or Imperial Saint conversion...
The frustration of AoS players is palpable reading this comment. Where every revealed AoS model is considered in relation to how they would suit a 40k conversion. Says a lot about the level of model design between the two systems......
the Stormcast character would look good as a sanguinor conversion
I think for me the robe looks too static to be "real." Like you said, this is all high fantasy and unreal, but that front fabric needs some ripple or flow to look more natural
That or go full unreal, no discernible legs at all, arms outspread and with a disk of magic™ attached to his back, or something to that effect.
Yeah I guess it's a question of "real" vs believable
The bit of the pose that's getting me is the downbeat wings combined with the flaring out legs make it look like he's swooping up, but the pillars behind him put him way too close to the ground to be doing that normally.
The direction of the model feels different from how the terrain around him is placed I think
Man, GW really has got a thing going for "dudes awkwardly floating in the air with legs spread" lately.
I for one welcome our new homoerotic airborne overlords and remind them that as a hapless GW fanboy, I can be of use in rounding up others to toil in their sky palaces.
As soon as I saw this mini I knew this video would be coming
The squeals of "aOs iSn'T gRImDarK!" are disappearing into the fog and I could not be happier.
The Brood Terror is an excellent mini, really capturing the insane, Frankenstein's Monster-esque shenanigans one would expect from a collaboration project between Clans Moulder and Skryre. It is just great, nightmare fuel stuff on every level.
With all that said, I think it is a bit harsh to dismiss Tornus the Redeemed/the Knight-Azyros as merely 'OK'. The arrangement of the legs might be a bit awkward, but conveying hovering flight in such a pose is not always easy, and from the front the extended tabard essentially obscures the legs anyway while still creating the impression of a lower body so that the figure feels balanced. The helmeted head looks suitably intimidating and inhuman, the arrangement of the wings works very well, and the twin bladed, rune inscribed polearm looks great, a suitably epic weapon for what amounts to a Sigmarite Archangel. Even the lamp looks like the divine artefact it is supposed to be rather than a mundane light source.
All in all, I would say we have two excellent models here, but each very different in style, offering something for those who appreciate the grotesque and gruesome and those who feel more in the mood for the luminous and angelic.
See that? That’s basically a Fleshy Dreadnought. And I adore it.
Was not expecting the Misfits and Magic reference
So now that I've seen Torgugalugug from the back, I'm struck by the thought that upon landing he's going to immediately trip and rip that fancy robe of his.
This is the single most awesome character from the lore! I remember 2+ tough doing an awesome lore Video on him!
That back+wings would be awesome for kitbashing a 1000 sons sorcerer or some small edits for Sisters
I also like the lore, give me a idea of a skaven moulder, who unfortnunly was moulded onto the brood terror, fortunly the rat has maintain his intelligence, Unfortanly it like trying to pilot a empty head brute who only ideas are "kill, eat, sleep and repeat" so we have this brute creature lumbering around for extra parts, with a skaven attach parasite screaming at the brute to "DO AS I SAY NOW-NOW!!!"
I'm really loving the look of these Skaven. I really want to use these as the basis of some cool 40k Chaos conversions. Mostly depends on the size to determine what it could be. I'd love to use them as Torments alongside some converted Arco-Flagellants accursed cultists if they were the right size. But I think they are a bit big.
The Abhorrent Brood Terror is what a Hellbrute of Nurgle should be like. Biomechanical horror, just needs more disease.
One thing I'm curious about with fourth edition is now that the Great Horned Rat is a "proper" Chaos god whether he'll branch out from Skaven and do more to corrupt other mortals. Transformation body horror has always been a pretty integral part of the Skaven's lore; they were (arguably) originally created from humans turned into rats and their most powerful spell literally turns an enemy unit into clanrats. It makes sense to me to bring that to the fore now in AoS, and maybe even give it some representation in the model range...
Would have been better if the knight azyros just had his legs together like he’s gracefully gliding across the battlefield instead of spread like he’s not to confident he can actually keep his balance
Those robes look weird because I imagine they would be touching the ground if he were standing instead of floating.
Skaven looks like a glorious nightmare. Personally really happy to see Tornus, he is a fantastic character in the books and his new model looks really scary to me. The pose reminds me a bit of the Nighthaunt, as you cant see his legs well from the front. So he kind of looks a Stormcast apparition floating in the air.
Does anyone else think that the wings on Tornus the Redeemed seem reminiscent of Mortarian's moth wings? That would make sense, since his whole thing is being the first redeemed champion of Nurgle.
So I'll probably be getting that Stormcast guy to play a Solar if i ever need one in my D&D games. He's like the most perfect model for that I've ever seen.
I think he would work especially well for the more uncompromising, rather terrifying angelic beings from D&D - the kind of Solar who has extra helpings of Radiant Damage for everyone...
Lieutenant Tornus, you got no legs...
He has to hold the lantern, otherwise he would have to try to balance it on that spike.
When i first saw this model i knew Kirioth would like it.
They should have posed the legs like in Diablo when the angels are hovering. If that was the case I would probably buy it. I wont pay that much to have to kitbash/sculpt it to look good tho.
So there is a chance we get the corrupted version of that Stormcast? It exists in the lore. Literally he fights himself in Nurgles Garden 😮 Ohhhh that would be absolutely amazing if GW did that!! 😮
I really hope we get multi part kit for that terror. I don't like the little head and vestigial arms. I'd prefer to just have double rat ogre beefy boy heads
AoS models in general are so so good, even this Stormcast model while not amazing is still really good
I think the stormcast guy would look much better if rather than spread apart legs resting on a tactical rock it was just a huge sheep of smoke/clouds going straight to the ground a bit like if he was an elemental. Not only would it fix the static cloth but I would give him more of an angelic figure and remove the need for a tactical rock.
Also the horror need three legs, I don't know why I just need it to have a tiny vestigial leg.
The problem with the stormcast guy can be summed up in that he looks like he doesn't have legs
That's most likely the point. Unironically looks like a floating angel.
I love the Skaven. The more you look, the worse it gets. It's just horrific.
The stormcast looks odd in my eyes, too. It doesn't help that the base statuary is so contrived to touch his robes. I realise it needs to balance. Also, when landing, they`ll just stand on his own robes.
Idk I think he looks really cool. Kinda reminds me of the Fused from the Stormlight Archive, they also fly around with spears and overlong robes
I’m all for the biblically accurate stormcast
Also the silhouette reminds me of a lantern which considering the Azyros’ job makes sense
Thank you. Was wondering where the legs were?
Can't wait to see Kirioths Skaven army. It will be truly harrowing and beautiful to behold.
It was awesome to watch you get a chance to roll dice yesterday
Been waiting for a Tornus model for way too long. Yeah, it's a bit awkward but the wings totally make up for it. The Skaven model is grand, and I do hope the Skaven players like it. But gimme my wingie boi.
wait, i thought they didnt have enough room in the warehouses to make all the stormcasts... and yet here we are with them remaking the stormcast.
Pretty sure it has more to do with store shelf space then warehouse not having space
Still kicking my own ass for missing out on that wraith minaiture.
The picture doesn't do tornus justice, i think the oddness you feel from the model is not being able to see the legs
goddam, that stormcast goober is incredible. Best model of 4th ed so far.
the tactical rock kinda screws with things, but it should be easy enough to put him on the ground.
The stone column seems surplus to requirements. Knowing nothing about physics, plastic, or sculpting, it seems it would have looked better with just the robes keeping Mr. Stormcast afloat, and removing the big stone column entirely. It makes it look like he's not even flying, just striking a pose on a pillar.
I can't wait to see someone grab the new Rat to make Obliterators.
As a certified Tornus the Redeemed enjoyer, I love the model. The only bad thing with the model is the leg pose and the fact that it had to follow up an S Tier Skaven model.
Hey Kirioth, where was that Wraith model from???
Evan Kelmp reference RAH!
The main thing killing the Knight-Azyros for me is the fire coming off the wings. Convincing fire has a lot of three-dimensionality to it, but this is very flat and artificial-looking, more like a shroud of fabric.
I know it's because GW's sculptors have to work around the limitations of their casting technology (since they refuse to move away from basic two-part moulds), but it looks fifteen years behind the rest of the model in quality to me.
Clearly inspired by the rat king from last of us part 2. I love it!
I know how I'm painting it. With a can of Peachy's Peach!!!!! Then just using contrast on it for the various skin shades, fur and maybe cloth, with standard metals for...Well , the metal. 😁
I think you might be a bit hard on the Stormcast model, but then we all have our tastes. I love how you can't see the legs, in fact, at first I though it _HAD_ no legs , until I saw the rear shot, was slightly disappointed after that .
I know they said bravery is gone but how is a steelhelm not running away from that thing
venatari sheild captain
If you got a fancy dress you need to adopt a technique of ascension to give props to your royal seamstress..... Or you may trip!
Those robes on the Stormcast seem like they are made of lead
They might be. Their big banner is made of metal threads from the Anvil of Apotheosis itself and they have weird things like living metal masks/armor that shapes itself to their bodies.
Lead robes made to survive the lightning teleport and can retract on command to walk normally wouldn’t be weird for a faction that gets its weapons from dwarven god smiths & sentient storm clouds.
Plus stuff like Alarith stone Guard have rock armor and granite hats.
@Kirioth, I may be seeing things but I was hoping you'd notice that the fur-less portion towards the top of the Brood Terror appears to be a third donor, likely human skin. I see an eye, nose and mouth (questionably) next to the little exhaust pipe in the front view, with the side view showing similar holes stretched out towards the back where you can see a hint of brain visible beside the warp stone exhaust.
A truly disgusting/horrific design either way.
That stormcast model does look really off. The cloth is 100% static and those invisible legs are just wonky af.
Second, either I'm blind or is it possible that the link to your 40k game didn't make its way into the description?
You people dont read the lore and jt shows. Nothing against the skaven but this specific stormcast is one of the very few cases of a chaos follower getting reddeemed ( in the coolest way possible as well). Also the kitbash potential is crazy.
The eyes just look so sad😢
The Brood Terror seems to be based on a Rat-Ogre variant as the main body, and the (unwilling) donor Master Moulder grafted on the side.
With that robe, I'm kind of tempted to find or build an electric guitar axe for the Knight-Azyros and call him Adam.
Tornus is an interesting case. Not only is it kind of unclear what build is supposed to actually be Tornus and what's the generic one, but the character has before been described as a Knight-Venator, the ranged variant that could be built from the previous Knight-Azyros/Knight-Venator kit.
The word for seeming realistic while acknowledging the fictional nature of something is verisimilitude. Your problem with the Stormcast Eternal model is the robes and other aspects break the verisimilitude.
I have alot of thoughts on these models. But I'll keep it to key details and if you want to skip paragraph 3, I wouldn't blame you. I know how long I can go for with this stuff. First, I'll start by saying that I *LOVE* the new Brood Terror. I've always wnted more gross Moulder Mutant Monsters in Skaven and this is the exactly the kind of horrific abomination I always wanted in my life. Also, I agree with you about the fur. Having bits of fur and skin in random patches makes this creature look more unnatural, more like the violation of nature it's supposed to be. And I lile to think that the skin around the Warpstone engines on it's back just "naturally" healed and grew over the engines after enough time. Moulder are all about flesh shaping and regeneration, so to me, the skin just growing over the machinery in a gross parody of "natural healing" makes the most sense to me. But we also don't have full lore that might explain it further.
Second, I think you made some very valid criticisms of the new Knight-Azyros. Especially the bit about him tripping over his robe if he lands too quickly. I still like the model alot for how imposing it looks. As for the weapons, sure, they're getting a bit of a "grimdark" treatment, but I like how much more detailed they are compared to prior weapons. Just look at the old Stormstrike Glaives on Stormcast Protectors and compare them to the Glaive the Knight-Azyros is holding.
Finally, I'm giving this guy his own paragraph, because he deserves it. Tornus the Redeemed is amazing! With the way GW mentioned him in the article, stating, quote:
"The kit can also be used to represent Tornus the Redeemed"
That phrasing signifies to me that he unfortunately won't get bespoke rules since both the generic Knight-Azyros and Tornus don't use different parts, which is the hallmark of a named character. But the fact that GW acknowledged him at all is something I appreciate. *Especially* if you've read the books he's been in, following his journey as Torglug(which isn't that hard to say imo, it's Tor + Glug, theres 2 G's in it) to his eventual redemption after being reforged as a Stormcast. It's all in just a few of the Realmgate wars books on Audible and I'd highly reccomend them. The article gave you the cliff-notes version of the story. But it's those stories of the Hallowed Knights, Gardus Steel Soul, Lorrus Grymn(RIP buddy) and Tornus the Redeemed that made me fall in love with not just with Stormcast, but Age of Sigmar in general.
I'm not sure about a 150 pound after discount light, might be the best light but if it's not diffused and causes hard shadows it's probably not the best tool, but this comes to personal preference at this point. It's clearly originally design for reading, which is fine, but they should probably invest into something more specific to painting models, probably something can create two point soft light , or create a desk light box to deal with the shadow?... Hey if they do, can I get 5% for stealing my idea
I concur
wait, was that a dimension20 reference!? @16:26
GOAT HOUSE
@@Kirioth GOAT HOUSE
I know I’m in the minority here but I like the Knight Azyros more than the terror. Personally the new rat(s) are just a little TOO much for me. The only issues I have with the Azyros is that the names character has no new sculpt differences and it appears that you can’t make the Venator…
I think the main did is Tornus is supposed to have the twin-glaive while the Azyros has the classic runic sword.
But yeah it’s a Vandus situation again.
I don’t care tho, that glorious model IS Tornus the Redeemed first and foremost to me and going all in on it! ⚡️
(Venators sadly are probably replaced by Knight-Judicators for super holy mega archers. But that kinda does make me want to add a seraphim(sce mask with 6 wings attached) as a companion to the aetherwing for a Judicator proxy)
Tbh I'm much of the same. The terror to me feels more like "just another Moulder Monster", where the Knight-Azyros is very specifically exploring a new aesthetic for the army as an "utterly holy crusader"
Rat Dreadnaught….
Oof I can’t hate that stormcast model much more. Really goofy looking
GW plz give love to clans eshin 🙏
AoS miniatures are awesome... until you gotta pack them up and drive across town.
Also I never will get what it is about Skaven that gets everyone going all poggers. I don't hate them, but I don't see the big deal. In the thirty years that I've been aware of Warhammer, not a single person has ever told me or shown me anything about them that seems to justify the absurd fascination people have.
And I have to admit my bias: I experienced Skaven playing Mordheim on tabletop, so it takes an effort for me to even listen to anyone talk about them without rolling my eyes. If you spent multiple games just waiting for the game to end because some neckbeard's "clever tactic" was basically "swarming the board with disposable rat dudes and tarpitting everyone for an entire game"- you'd probably feel the same way. And these neckbeards say this is 'fun'.
If you haven't experienced this, I assure you- it's not fun. I don't mean 'it's hard', I mean it's not fun to not do anything for the entire game- and it's even more pathetic when you don't want to stand at the table for an hour doing nothing so you concede and the guy starts crying because you won't "just play it out with him". He'll cry harder when someone makes a house rule to ensure other players can also have "fun" when they play against him- but then he'll quit and leave.
the long scripture flowing from the Stormcast looks silly. he looks like he is hoovering with no flow to the cloth. seems stiff and disconnected.
1:02 model looks ok shame about the Company that makes it (sorry but my distain for GW has been getting worse with each passing year, I’m happy that some people can still get joy from the hobby buts for me it’s gotten to the point where ied only buy second hand off places like eBay or using non GW models).
not buying GW till they bring out prime orks
Unfortunately that Skaven is so horrendous I will not buy it even though I love the Skaven faction I will proxy it instead or just not play it.
Not feeling these stormcast.
Space Marines are normally the main draw in launch boxes, but with Sigmar, it's the opposite - the Stormcast just seem like ballast.
I think you may have an innate dislike for anything remotely symmetrical haha
That rat thing is typical GW over design. Just cram everything they can onto every model. Fail.
Not much they can do though. They have no chance of attracting any talented modelers these days with their minimum wage jobs.
Anyone with an iota of talent can make 10x as much money, making models on a Patreon.
So this is all GW can do, push out these built by committee models.
The problem with the sigmar model is it looks like he’s wearing a dress but one that he’d be constantly tripping over nothing practical about it it’s just a horribly designed model compared to the original it’s so bad I initially thought he had no legs lol
What it reminds me of is a floating angel that drifts everywhere. It almost seems like a Final Fantasy boss to me.
The problem with Tornus is his terrible "redemption" story. As if stormcast weren't antithetical enough to the grimdark warhammer universes, now you can get out from under Chaos's thumb scot-free. And they made an entire model to put an exclamation mark on this point. Ugh...
U can’t get out “scot free” it was only due to being hit directly with Ghal Muraz that he was redeemed. It’s definitely okay that the weapon that is warhammers namesake can do that, especially if the emperors sword in 40K can perma-kill daemons
Also how are Stormcast antithetical?? Cause they are colored gold??? Old World is back go be negative there
@@destructivepanda5226 Random humans getting to be immortal simply for being "good people" flies in the face of everything Warhammer was built up to be.
And yes, compared to literally any other character in the franchise this dude sounds like he got off scot-free to me. The emperor of mankind took more of a beating from Chaos, lmao. And criticising a franchise just shows my passion for it. Why are you criticising fellow passionate consumers by trying to gatekeep? Get off my d*ck.
AoS is NobleDark.
Stormcast can redeem those forces into chaos to save their families,
the dark gods can be weakened and captured like Slaanesh,
areas corrupted by chaos can be purified by the faithful chanting(and at time flagellating themselves so their holy blood can destroy chaos),
being faithful enough causes little Order familiars called Gargoylians to manifest that attack chaos daemons on sight
There’s space fleets of Star lizards & dinos that regularly mess up chaos’ plans and redirect their portals to the blender dimension instead of a village to slaughter.
That’s part of what makes the AoS setting so fun is that it’s it all gloom and doom. You got 40k & Old World for grimdark nihilism.
@@ce4879 I'm glad you enjoy GW's new direction.
@@destructivepanda5226 You're taking this a bit personally, attacking fellow consumers for pointing out bad writing. Share your opinion sure, but don't try to gatekeep by telling fans that disagree with you to leave.
I don't like firexsmoke modeled on a model . My old latern boy looked better. A bearded dude in a dress without legs is meh.