PART 3 - BMW F650 GS BUCKING AND STALLING - NEW IN LINE FUEL FILTER AND FUEL INJECTOR
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2022
- In this video I remove the fuel pump, syphon out the fuel, clean the tank and replace the strainer on the end of the fuel pump before replacing. I then installed a new inline fuel filter which can be found on eBay - Universal FSE Sytec Motorsport Fuel Injection Filter 8mm (£13.94).
I also replace the fuel injector with one from a G650GS Sertao motorcycle.
Really appreciating your videos right now! My 01 stops starting when the weather dips below 50°f. I just adjusted the valves, and after buttoning things up, I inherited the stalling issue you did. Going to check all of my electrics now and my air intake sensor. Crack on!
Thanks Sam. Such a shame you also have the stalling issue, it’s so frustrating. Mine hasn’t stalled again yet but it is early days. I still need to check the metal splinter build up in the crankcase but it’s so cold out there I’m struggling to find the motivation to go in to the garage :P
air temp sensor...
@@HaynesGarage I learned that those metal shavings are usually from starter clutch failing, so when you see this on your CPS quite a lot I suggest to inspect this and change this before more damage is caused.
I had the same problem as you with my 2003 fg650GS. I replaced the fuel pump and filter. That solved my problem.
Love the videos...Keep them coming. Hello from Arizona BTW.
Thanks so much. Wow, Arizona? It’s beautiful there right? It’s lovely to know my videos are reaching people all across the world.
@@HaynesGarage Sunny an 70 degrees Fahrenheit 😎
Hi Katy - Thanks for sharing the fuel filter type - looks like over here that's a WIX 33482 ($13) which belongs to an '82 Corvette. :-) I will try one on my f650gs in the Spring! Hope you're well. -Cliff
Spring sounds like a sensible time to carry on with maintenance/repair work, good luck installing the filter. I think my work will slow down a bit now over the next few months, it’s too easy to stay inside in the warm. :P
Great video, fingers crossed the gremlins have left after such a thorough going over 🤞👍
Brilliant!
salut katy j ai vu ta vidéo et la le même problème sur mon f650cs elle démarre et cale ;donc j ai fait comme toi et sa pas marché 😒 du moins pas tout de suite. il a fallu débranché l ecu (ordinateur )2mn puis j ai refait ta manipulation et la le top nickel la moto tourne parfaitement génial merci katy 🤗
Je suis content que vous ayez réparé votre moto. le problème de décrochage est tellement frustrant et dangereux. J'espère que le mien est réparé maintenant après avoir nettoyé le réservoir et le filtre à carburant. J'espère que le problème ne reviendra pas dans quelques centaines de kilomètres !
conduite heureuse et en toute sécurité.
@@HaynesGarage la panne pour moi je pence est venu suite a la pose d une bougie iridium .j ai démarré et la le ralenti a 1750 tours a 2000 tours pas normal et après elle tenais plus le ralenti ?donc coup j ai remonté une bougie origine toujours pareil . j ai du faire comme je tes dit debranché ecu et faire ta manipulation et la nickel très curieux? et la moto a 30.000 km et depuis elle démarre super bien a froid comme a chaud . je vais bénir les dieux de la moto 😆
Love this❤
Thank you
Impressive!
Try iridium NGK spark plugs and 98 octane gasoline.
For engine paint the MOTIP ENGINE PAINT spray.
And of course anticorrosion everywhere ACF-50.
Hello from Greece.
Thanks for the tips. I do love my ACF50!
Wow, Greece. Hello from England! Happy riding. 🙂
Well done for persisting with this bike in a situation where many before have given up. Still cannot get over the unnecessary amount and levels of unnecessary sophistication built into what should be a simple 650cc DOHC single. Hope it behaves itself from now on.
Ride safe.
Thank you
well, you can get one with a carburetor..if you think that's better. pre-2000.
@@captlarry-3525 Twin carbs. A little tricky to set up. Single carb makes more sense.
You katy should use a carb and Way lean the mixture.
"I don't know why she swallowed a fly. Perhaps she'll die." - Burl Ives- Traditional American Song.
Gonna need to do this myself. Mines bogging a bit at high speeds. Next is the stalling
I haven’t taken it for enough rides yet to definitely say the stalling issue is fixed but it does seem to be running ok so far. I still plan to check the metallic particle build up on the crank sensor too as an extra safety measure. I hope you manage to get yours sorted as it’s a horrible experience stalling at high speed. Take care.
@@HaynesGarage Its winter anyway so i'm probably not riding for a few months. It got cold quick. Its been below 20 farenheit most nights. So like -10C
I had overheating issues, the fan would come on quite often even with simple cruising around 20°C. Was battling this last year my whole 10day trip around SLO-HR-IT-AU (in HR the temp was like 35-40°C so not good ), the fan kept the bike running but I thought it's ridiculous when cruising at 100kph fan coming on every 10 minutes lol. Only at night in Dolomites when the temps got to 15°C the fan was not coming on. Nothing really helped - bleeding the head, adjusting coolant level, changing coolant (helped tiny bit), unplugging O2 sensor (to make the mixture more rich). Only changing the injector to one with higher flowrate (Bosch 0 280 158 124) really did something tangible. I can now cruise and even ride quite spirited at 25°C ambient and the fan doesn't come on. And I have neoprene gaitors and cooler guards (which acc. BMW make the bike overheat lol). Might be different when the ambient is 40°C but I'm quite satisfied so far. Maybe I will unplug O2 again, but currently testing mileage with the new injector, seems good so far. Edit: ANd yeah I checked the intake valve clearances before doing this they were well within specs.
oh yeah btw the fuel filter I'm using is from Skoda Fabia, Audi uses it as well I think - MANN WK69/2 (14€). So far like 20000 kms on it no issues, but I never experienced the bike with the original filter so maybe there is a difference (heard it makes the mixture richer but that was certainly not my case as the post above indicates).
Thanks for all the info, hopefully this will help other f650 riders. I hope your bike is still running good. I haven’t been able to ride for a while but I took Monster out for a short spin today. Not yet convinced that the stalling issue is cured but need to do a few more miles on her first. The fork is now leaking too so that’ll be my next job to replace the seals. One thing after the next!
@@HaynesGarage I removed radiator guards since (touratech ali copy) and the bike can keep itself cool even in 35°C ambient. So there was an effect lol. Also my water pump failed (gears munched - thought the stuff in oil was a seal but it was seal and pieces of those gears). So far I removed the stupid mechanical pump and replaced it with bosch electric pump for coolant. Working a treat, so far around 500kms on it. Yeah I'm planning to do suspension this winter. Will looking forward to your video :)
Hi steve do you have a picture of water pump you installed.
I been thinking some kind of upgrade for my bike.
I changed waterpump like 4 times im 60.000 km and my bike it's a xchallenge wich it makes waaay more dificult to do the job.
Thanxs
Hi Katy, great video, can you tell me what diagnostic tool you used an the name of the software as wellplease. Thank you.
Hi Barry, I’m using the Hex GS 9/11 tool although I think this particular model I'm using has been discontinued but you will find more recent models on their website.
Hello Katy, beautiful video very well explained. What fuel filter did you use?
Thanks, Alex
Thanks Alex. The fuel filter I used was a Universal FSE Sytec Motorsport Fuel Injection Filter 8mm, you can find it on eBay for around £14.
@@HaynesGarage
Thank you very much for your super fast reply. Can you please tell me the exact name of the fuel filter?
Thanks very much!
SSFC5160C Sytec
@@HaynesGarage
Hello Katy, thank you very much. I watched another video of you cleaning the fuel filter. Now I understand the system provided you with a pre-filter. Thanks for your idea, I'll implement that too. I'm looking forward to new videos from you. Greetings Alex
Oh wow. When can I bring my F650GS for a service 😃
When can I get my off road training in the sand? ;)
@@HaynesGarage 😉 whenever you are ready for it. I wouldn't mind going back to the desert
What about regulator from the filter? Is the universal one with a pressure regulator?
Hiya, I still have the BMW fuel filter regulator installed as well as the extra in line filter. All this might have been unnecessary now I think the stalling was caused by a faulty battery but it’s all a good learning curve!
Hopefully all good now....but what was the culprit?
Thanks, Fingers crossed! Took her out for a 20 mile ride today and so far so good. I still plan to check the crank sensor for any metallic particle build up too. Could be the contaminated fuel, could be the dirty fuel injector, or the clogged up idle actuator, or the problem might still come back to haunt me. I’ll keep you updated. :)
@@HaynesGarage have you checked the inlet air temperature sensor?
I'm having trouble with my 2001 fgs 650
It's not starting
Hi Kevon, are you still having trouble? Is it trying to turn over? Fully charged battery?