BIRMINGHAM CITY FAN SENDS LETTER TO TOM WAGNER SAYING "FORGET THE NEW STADIUM SUCCESS COMES FIRST"
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Dont drive these owners away we need them more than ever now
A cup half empty rather than half full?? I’m in my 60’s and been following Blues over 50 years; never been as excited for our future as I am now. 10k in a 60k stadium? We will be in the Premiership in the next 3 or 4 years!! Be positive!! By a season ticket and show your loyalty!! KRO
That’s true loyalty
This is spot on, I like the optimism!
Who the fk is this Pratt ?
We move forward with the vision! He’s such a short sighted individual !
Let’s realize the dream ffs
Oh trust me they’re amongst us!!!
We can build a stadium and a team at the same time. The two businesses are not the same - people need to understand this.
yeah its not as if you pause the stadium project that the infrastructure team suddenly starts working on player recruitment. Yeah two entirely separate things that can occur at the same time.
Owners are doing Good by Blues. It's cook who messed up. The players are mostly to blame. We will rebuild and move on. Keep the faith 👍💙
It was a mistake ,thats all - trying to run too quickly .
Lessons will be learned
Lets stick together
Both spot on
But the new stadium won’t just hold our games it will play host to nfl games concerts events potentially euro games which will bring more money to
The club aswell
The pitch will have more lines than new street station lol !
You need a club with a gaurenteed 25 home games of 40,000 to make it viable,.. yes you might get one or two concerts a season of 40,000 but to please the borrowers you need to show a regular income,with Premier league TV money,that's not an issue,bit when your stuck in division one,they won't even return your calls,..I would have thought the local council might have chipped in some money but with the corruption/debt being exposed there,that's not a serious option,..of course you need a team first,you need to be challenging for the playoffs in the championship before anybody serious gives the go ahead for a stadium costing 5/600 million,if you want all the mod cons,like a retractable roof...🤔
@@roystonmarshall5027 I think the council have paid many millions for the clear up of the site.
Build that stadium 🏟 as fast as possible. Like the city's motto. Forward.
Not backwards.
Ridiculous letter to write......🙄 So narrow minded, agree with your other follower, look at the bigger picture, the project for a bigger club has multiple projects that will all run concurrently, the stadium being one of them.
Tom Wagner has not the slightest intention of building a 60000 seat stadium sports quarter on that piece of land. He has made the majority of his money from real estate investments and knowing that that piece of land is within 100m of the HST hub into Europe for all passengers and freight for the whole of the North of the UK only a fool would build something that he would have to continually invest in and gamble on any returns. Do the maths a couple of thousand apartments hotels shopping and leisure complex’s would generate profits of well over 750 million in just sales alone not a bad return for 48 million and that’s without even touching the European freight warehouses and logistics side of it. The man has hardly mentioned the rebuilding of a team that will be in 4 weeks thread bare when the contracts run out on half the squad no matter how bad some where and at one point of the season sixth in the league. Why build a 60000 seat stadium when Harry Potter and all the wizards at hogwarts wouldn’t have enough magic to fill it
Lived in brum 10/11years and iam a Burnley fan with a love of blues,makes me angry to see blues in this state kro and good luck ❤
Cheers mate KRO
@@keeprightontv with love brother ❤️ feck it I've been to Shrewsbury journey on
Agree with most of his points. Will Everton become a top team with a new stadium? Did Sunderland? Did Middlesborough?
Look at Rangers, Celtic, Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea, Leeds United. Their stadia mean a lot to the fans.
St Andrews is full of character, and memories.
The new project will certainly bring jobs and opportunities for locals but won’t guarantee any success for the team.
It’s a bit marmite really.
Have to get behind Tom Wagner as he really has a vision and passion for his club. Hopefully progression starts in August ON the pitch 👍
The stadium is going to be a great thing to look forward to being in! It will bring in lots of money though massive events!
Build it success will come
Who ever wrote that is a pound shop blues fan , these are millionaires who have money to invest ,move on
The new stadium will take a few yrs to build. Having it started NOW allows the ownership to bring IN the type of players we NEED to build a WINNER! That fan is penny wise and pound Foolish! BUILD the new stadium!!!
Lm the same age as this bloke,74,--and still a season tkt holder,and yes they have, and do break your heart,as they,ve alwas done
Just look at ipswich just over 12 months ago were in league 1 and now in the premiership we arent the only ones to be down their leicester leeds southampton norwich wolves all went down there and got back to the premier so we could well be in premier by the time the stadiums built
Absolute nonsense - short sighted- impatient and petulant post .
The best thing ever to happen to our club .
OK the rooney appointment was a mistake .
But if the new owners hadn't stepped up , we would eventually be going into oblivion , never mind league 1 .
Can't stand these moaning , negative sods
Spot on mate 👌
❤up the blues 💙 👌 new season 💙 🙌 up the blues 💙 👌 yes up and up new season 🙌 💙 💪 😀 👌 ❤
We all need to play safe, If you pump money onto the pitch first we would be hit with more FFP. So what you need to do is bring in sponsors, jobs, entertainment and a home that would work within the club for future footballers. I.e J.Bellingham. The money would flow smoothly into the club. Tho man city is huge, successful in signing players, winning Cups....Now there gonna be hit with over 150 FFP charges. We have to see what happens because Blues have been let down so many times by owners. Let's sit back, support our team and see if the owners are genuine. This can be good, not only for BCFC but for the city.
Well that is an issue as we will lose many millions in broadcast revenues in L1 so our spending will need to keep the FFP 3 year cycle in mind when we recruit in this league with the big revenue drop we will end up with whilst in League One. The new stadium will be under separate ownership though so is outside of FFP.
Trust in Tom Wagner and his vision for our club! He will work out who he can trust to get the football side of things on track.
The unfortunate thing with Tom and the company that now owns Birmingham they are an investment company they ain't a football owner solely with this club in mind they've seen other business opportunities here that come with owning this club ..probably made the sweeter by our ex mayor Andy street .. 💯 success at this club like all clubs comes from on the pitch and priority is to get the hell out of this one for sure ..but they can't spend their way out of it ..and they ain't gonna anyway even if we get back into the championship.. this company wants real returns from all this and that's in the shape of hotel and other profit making ventures that run parallel with the new ground ..but 💯 we want success on the pitch FIRST with new ground second
Mowbray never brought a striker in he brought in 1,000 midfielders instead. Is Mowbray all that I mean look at Dozzel and Pritchard who Mowbray bigged up and could not wait to bring in.
We absolutely need to focus on the team, but Wagner has to push on with his plans for this sports sector, the stadium is a byproduct, the revenues made by businesses being built by Tom will fund the teams of the future
What a fool he obviously lives in the past
Birmingham Mail rubbish, why only this letter from one fan put in big headlines, Birmingham Mail rubbish, stirring up fans. We need the new stadium for funds for the club not only from the stadium but the surrounding complex, it will take 5 to 8 years to build, and you can not put that on the back burner, why would you, the stadium cost will not come out of the funds for new players, they are separate. so I and 98% of fans think Terry is wrong.
Unfortunately the sports complex an over entertainment is gonna be a big money spinner when it's up and going it will bring a lot of money in for the club it won't be only football there it'd be athletics tennis major rock concerts so that's what they're looking a money spinner plus I think they want to see the club do well as well
Did you see the movie Fields of dreams he was told build it and they will come KRO
Love Terry's passion but all strands of improvement in this club need to push forward at the same time. It's not a matter of only being able to focus on one thing over another. I want them to improve the team and get us up AND push forward for rebuilding our infrastructure and revenues too. So maybe I am the ONE fan out of the ten Terry talks about. Different management teams will be running all these projects so all these things can push forward and run concurrently. The new stadium will take 5+ years so that project needs to start immediately. If we wait for promotion to PL first then what? then wait for another 5 years for the stadium? we need both at the same time and different management teams will be working on this so working on the stadium in no way impacts any team rebuild. KRO
Excellent reply Phil 👏🏻
I’m with you on this one Phil everyone has their opinion and it’s listened to but I’m not sure this is the right opinion now ! So there’s 2 out the 10 KRO FEA
@@grahamgreen1875 3 out of 10 with dazo69
It won't take 5 years, Tom wants it built by 2029... spurs one took 3 and a half years 👍
@@richardeustace2071 possibly not the build but no plans have been submitted yet else they'd have gone into the public domain, so a lot of work to do before the first brick goes down.
I am done with them 😅😅😅
I said it Rooney dropped kevin long it went down hill from then at the back 😅clubs a joke
Oh for god sake, sick and tired of listening to negative fans. The same sort of people who think we cant beat stevenage and Cheltenham in the third tier. Wagner must not listen to these negative people. If we do, we are doing the dirty work of villa fans. They would love are ambition and project to collapse.
Old man,too much money and not much time left to spend it.
Talking strikers , i really hope we get rid of no goals hogan . He might get the odd one or two in league one but he’s definitely not championship quality.
The guy is probably a villa fan
He's actually right no good having a big stadium and a garbage team the stadium would be constantly empty the only way blues would fill a stadium is if they have a good winning team that can win on a consistent basis if other fans can't see that they are thick and deluded.
It's people like you that never get anything done. The stadium wont be built in five minutes, probably not even five years so you are just deluded. What if we are in the prem in three years and before you say what if we're not, theres no point in dwelling on what ifs because if we do that nothing will ever get done, so both the rebuild of the stadium and the rebuild of the player need to be done in tandom and need to be done now.
Dear me - the only way you get the finance to build a team worthy of the premier , is to first have the money to do it .
You do that by getting your fans to spend their money at the ground .
That ground needs to be 40,000 bare minimum , these days.
Forest have a 30,000 stadium , and have thrown the kitchen sink at staying up ....something like 20 new players , and they are barely hanging on , and apparently breaking the rules to do it
Leeds nearly bankrupted the club by trying to compete with man utd , without having the finances to do it ...having everything on the never ,never .
All 3 clubs that got promoted last year from the championship , are going back down to the championship ....because they cannot compete .
And the 3 that got promoted will struggle next year
There have been the odd exception ,leicester for one season , but it won't be 10 seasons .
The only way blues will ever compete in the premier league is to have a 60,000 stadium , being used 365 days a year , and fans spending money at the ground on each home games ....its basic economics
Concerts , nfl ....
In answer to the economics , can wolves or albion ever compete with Liverpool, man utd or arsenal on a long term basis , when they get crowds of 30,000 .
Brighton a fantastically well run club have to keep selling players to compete, even though they have a great manager.
Will leicester win the premier league again ...I doubt it .
There is an elite of 10 - 12 clubs developing , all with bigger stadiums , all with mens ,womens and junior teams competing and generating higher income , meaning better players , and more support .
Its no secret that the same teams that are moving ahead in the mens are also doing it in the womens game .
If blues ever want to make their way onto the bottom rung of this elite , then a new stadium ,is a must .
As we get more successful , the support will come .
A few years ago , the club down the road had 13,000 season ticket holders , now they have 24,000 and a waiting list , but even that in terms of economics , means this season ,they are punching above their weight , when you look at the income arsenal and spurs are bringing in .
We have got the right people in , emotion will be taken out of it .
This is business , and these people are business people , who are crunching the data and the numbers
Support them and get behind them .
The team ,the support and everything else will follow .
I have a feeling the two things , the stadium and the team will start to grow at the same time .
I reckon 2 - 3 in league 1 , while the foundations , and our future are quietly put into place .
KRO - FEA 💙
@@loken9124they want it built by 2029 ! 🤷
l,m not one of his 9 out of 10;-=l want the owners to go ahead with all the plans of the stadium etc,-and move the club on,-and i,m the same age as him KRO
bull shit build it every think els will come KRO
such a cute club
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Up the villa
Are you weird? Obsessed much!
@@dazo69 hahahahahaha your fucking right pal hahahahahahahahahaha
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Another Over Spend @ AVFC >> DEBT MOUNTING!
I would start to Question the Owners of your Club .
BIG ISSUES are soon going to be REVEALED ?
Sometimes it is smart to stay silent.
FUTURE PROVES PAST !
Sounds like a negative moaner not a fan lol 🤣 ok mistakes have been made with managers etc but we flirted with relegation for years I think Brady and tom Wagner are brilliant for blues and it's only first season we went down when we had golds and Sullivan first take over remember that