Love is Love

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  • čas přidán 24. 03. 2022
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    If you press someone for a coherent definition on what #love is, it usually follows a thread something like this: they’ll start by insisting that love is a feeling - it’s an intense attraction towards someone or something.
    But there’s an array of problems and inconsistencies with this definition. The first is that, we don’t control our feelings or our moods. Today I might be in the mood to get up early, exercise, and be productive, but tomorrow, I may not feel like that. My feelings on the matter are inconsistent and therefore, incoherent. What I ought to do should be based one my reason.
    And, we insist that love is a noble and even virtuous thing. But how can something so noble, be the by-product of something we have no control over?
    How can we say that we admire someone for the extent of their love and be critical of someone who lacks love for their neighbor, when, if it’s only a feeling of intense attraction, neither can be held accountable for their surplus or deficit of this feeling?
    If we’re going to insist on admiring or criticizing people for the amount of love that they exhibit, then we have to admit that there is a dimension of choice involved in what it means to love or not love. Because it is the choices and actions of others that we admire, not their mood swings.
    The second problem with this definition, is that it leads to absurdities when applied in real life. For example, what do you call someone who has intense feelings of attraction to someone else who doesn’t reciprocate those feelings. Umm… a stalker.
    It’s not an admirable thing when someone relentlessly expresses such intense feelings of infatuation when they aren’t mutual. Or on an even darker level, what about an adult who has intense feelings of physical attraction for children. I don’t know if society is actually this far gone yet, but I’d like to think that most of us wouldn’t call that love.
    So, you might want to amend your definition to something like, intense feelings of attraction that are welcomed and reciprocated. But, we can still run into trouble here because what if a minor reciprocates intense feelings to an adult - like a student and a teacher. Is that love?
    And don’t we all know someone who has been swept up in a very intense romance with someone that was also quite abusive? Relationships like that can hardly be described as a consequence of love, at least not the kind of love that is worthy of admiration.
    The only definition that I’ve ever heard that I find satisfying in that it can be applied to all the various instances that we might, seriously, describe as love, just so happens to be the Catholic definition. According to it, love is willing the good of another.
    #loveislove #catholicpride
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Komentáře • 655

  • @billyhw5492
    @billyhw5492 Před 2 lety +176

    What is love? Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.

  • @gingerherringtonSTMM
    @gingerherringtonSTMM Před 2 lety +183

    My first instinct was to counter "Love is love" with: "God is love," following that statement up with "Love is willing the good of the other." I hadn't thought about the coherence aspect of it, but I will now. Good analogies, Brian. I will use them myself!

  • @jackieann5494
    @jackieann5494 Před rokem +18

    Any parent worth his salt knows that love is NOT indifferent permissiveness .

  • @commercialrealestatephilos605

    “I can’t say what a women is, I am not a biologist.” THE FIRST VICTIM IS THE TRUTH.

  • @aloyalcatholic5785
    @aloyalcatholic5785 Před 2 lety +56

    People need to have the courage to ask the questions “what is a woman” and “what is love”?

  • @dobryshane
    @dobryshane Před 2 lety +23

    Lust is not love and pride is not love.

  • @LukeTycoon
    @LukeTycoon Před 2 lety +7

    I don't really get the point. Every slogan is inherently narrow and weak, but "love is love" comes in a certain context and meas something specific. It meas: the love of a gay couple is equal to the love present in a straight couple. It's love. It is, in fact "willing the good of another", not a different thing. Words are slogan, every single word reduces the complexity of things and concepts to its minimal significant form.

  • @jerryu4241
    @jerryu4241 Před 2 lety +51

    It's strange to me, that this so-called sophisticated time, in which we live in, doesn't seem to understand what natural and normal love is.

  • @thatguyzwife
    @thatguyzwife Před 2 lety +96

    This was such a timely and wonderful video for me tonight. Not because of anything regarding same-sex relationships or the subject matter, but because I needed a reminder to use my reason instead of feelings. I was so grumpy today and I couldn't understand why I was refusing to clean my kitchen when a few days ago I felt motivated and got lots done. Listening to your video reminded me that doing the right thing isn't based on feelings of motivation. I'm determined to be more disciplined tomorrow! Thank you!

  • @Veritas1234
    @Veritas1234 Před 2 lety +4

    As Christians, we don't believe that "love is love". We believe that "God is Love".

  • @suominainen707
    @suominainen707 Před 2 lety +148

    Enjoy hearing your thoughts on this!

  • @neverclevernorwitty7821
    @neverclevernorwitty7821 Před 2 lety +21

    Culture: "Love is Love"

  • @PK-zb6wh
    @PK-zb6wh Před 2 lety +129

    Pride is one of the deadly sins.

  • @realmless4193
    @realmless4193 Před 2 lety +59

    "love is love"

  • @nefergarcia7934
    @nefergarcia7934 Před 2 lety +111

    Thanks for mentioning the "Catholic school pride flag" epidemic. I went to a Catholic elementary school for nine years, and am just now beginning to see how "Catholic" schools really need to up their game. AKA: stop trying to be public schools and practicing what they preach.

  • @marklyons3125
    @marklyons3125 Před 2 lety +37

    Aquinas~ "Love is wishing the good of other as other." Love does not require reciprocation.

  • @kenvee9446
    @kenvee9446 Před 2 lety +3

    One wonders why parish priests, bishops, cardinals and even popes can't speak like an unassuming, faithful layman. Further, there's no "hate", no loathing ad advertised by the narrative writers. Just a reasoned argument for Love's ultimate and time-honored definition. Well done Mr Holdsworth.

  • @joe99173122
    @joe99173122 Před 2 lety +16

    This might be your best video, in a long list of other fantastic, carefully considered and thought provoking videos.

  • @CyborgNinja7
    @CyborgNinja7 Před 2 lety +18

    The short bit on "pleasure for the sake of pleasure" is interesting. It makes me think about my own recreational activities. If I play sports for fun, I might gain better health. If I go out binge drinking with friends or do drugs, I'll suffer harm in the long run. Perhaps we shouldn't engage in activity for the sake of pleasure but for good, measuring our actions based on their consequences.

  • @kerrytopel9835
    @kerrytopel9835 Před 2 lety +26

    I just talked with an old friend I hadn’t heard from in years. Her & her husband & kids were very Catholic. Now she says they’ve quit practicing because “the Church doesn’t stand for anything anymore.”