Kubrick hated living in Hollywood and would only go there on business or to accept awards; the rest of the time, he lived in either New York or London with his family. It's crazy how he got the label of a recluse and a madman simply for maintaining his privacy and not constantly shoving his image in the public eye, like most people the second they get famous.
Well the negative press I think is propaganda. I say that because Eyes Wide Shut was his last movie, and there's interview (forgot from who) where the man talks about how at the exec screening for the film, 45mins in two execs burst out with Kubrick screaming at him to the point where he thought they would break out into a physical fight. A week later Kubrick passes. Coincidence? Maybe, but the propaganda about him being crazy, is definitely not imo.
@@ct6852 Probably because of what he was depicting. If it hit close to home I imagine they'd want it removed and would be angry he'd put that kinda messaging in there.
My favorite Kubrick story is from when he was shooting Paths to Glory. To quote Kirk Douglas' telling of the story: He made the veteran actor Adolphe Menjou do the same scene 17 times. "That was my best reading." Menjou announced. "I think we can break for lunch now." It was well past the usual lunch time but Kubrick said he wanted another take. Menjou went into an absolute fury. In front of Douglas and the entire crew he blasted off on what he claimed was Kubrick's dubious parentage and made several other unprintable references to Kubrick's relative greenness in the art of directing actors. Kubrick merely listened calmly and after Menjou had spluttered to an uncomplimentary conclusion said quietly: "All right, let's try the scene once more." With utter docility, Menjou went back to work.
Malcolm McDowell in his commentary on A CLOCKWORK ORANGE notes that on that film Kubrick did few takes because, after all the cost overruns on 2001, he was determined to prove to Warner Brothers that he could bring a film in under budget.
@@megaultradamn If he did a lot of scenes over and over with Tom Cruise you gotta wonder how much worse THAT film could have been. Kubrick was more like the Rain Man; obsessed to the point of absurdity.
When I was a kid I use to walk around and sing I’m sing in the rain I can’t remember and I saw that movie I was like yo people prob thought I was on something
My favorite director..... you could take any frame of film, blow it up, and have a nice poster for your wall. Whether Dr. Strangelove, Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, 2001, Shining, Eyes Wide Shut....just amazing body of work.
Im currently watching Barry Lyndon it’s in the Dvd player while I’m working typing this. And you are 100% right I was thinking the same thing while watching the film.
I went to a screening of The Shining in 4K Remastering done by Leon Vitali himself at the Egyptian Theatre a few months ago. He just humbly stood in the lobby before the film, no one really talking to him. So I went up to him and was able to tell him how thankful I was for his work. He asked me questions about myself. Really humble sweet soul. Then he gave an amazing Q & A before the screening with some wonderful facts on the making of The Shining. He sat amongst the audience and watched the film sitting alone. Every now and then I’d peek up at him and he would be so invested and sometimes smiling. You can tell he really has so much joy for film. If you haven’t seen Film Worker on Netflix...you must.
Kubrick was such a genius. He was a gateway drug to filmmakers that I may not have understood or comprehended if Kubrick hadn’t taught me to look at film differently, folks like Bergman, Tarkovsky, Herzog.
No doubt. Kubrick was that for me during my early teens. And then Bergman and Tarkovsky completely blew the fucking doors off for me, they showed me what films were capable of being.
Boyhood literally filmed over the growing up of a young boy into a college aged man. Flipping trippy to watch in real time. Went so long that they couldn't even contractually bind the actors to filming for the movie, so it was all done based on good faith that everyone would return. THAT has got to be the record for longest movie production ever.
But the thing is that they shoot the film for like once or twice for every 12 years...i believe the record for the longest movie production is Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut..man, they worked on that film for like 400 days straight
Actually, she says something about "writing the movie". it seems she made a confusion between Stone and John Millius, who really wrote the first draft of Apocalypse Now.
Laurence Oliver to Dustin Hoffman during the making of Marathon “How did your week go, dear boy,” Olivier said. Hoffman told him that he had filmed a scene in which his character was supposed to have been up for three days straight. “So what did you do?” Olivier asked. “Well, I stayed up for three days and three nights.” Laurence Olivier then uttered this famous line, “Why don’t you just try acting?”
@@timothyivey5497 My high school English teacher relayed a similar story about Hoffman where he starved himself for a role and a co-star essentially said the same thing.
In the scene they're watching Jack prepare for his scene, it then shows the part where he swings the axe at the door to break in. The camera swings along with the axe then stops dead on the right as the axe brutally hits and sticks in the door. Kubrick is making the viewer "feel" the axe. No amount of CGI tech or trendy non-linear speed adjustments can give a director this kind of creative power. You just have it or you don't. Kubrick had it.
Similar to this is Ridley Scott's Bladerunner. I hear tell the crew and many in the production hated him because he was relentless and did whatever it took to get the shot he wanted. He'd go long over normal hours and would expect everyone else to do the same. The end product is still talked about today - and is a masterpiece, in my opinion - so there's something to be said about suffering for the art. But, like Kubrick, I doubt it could be done today in most circumstances.
The crew hated him not because of perfectionism but because he wanted a British crew and he said American crews sucked. Not a good way to win people over.
@@theonewhoistornapart2506 Except that James Cameron is a hack who hasn't produced anything remotely close to the artistry of 2001 and Blade Runner. His a-holery is wasted lol. His best movie T2 is still nothing more than a well made dudebro sci fi action movie.
@@AdobadoFantastico talked about it with koe on his episode of this podcast. And it is one of the dumbest, most anti intellectual arguments adam displays that it is crazy. It really showed a massive issue in the way people.think about.That topic and a very very ignorant.way Adam from.That show talks.and.thinks about.issues
And Stanley Kubrick is the god of filmmakers. He made GOAT movies in every genre possible - Horror, Science Fiction, Crime, Comedy, Drama, Psychological, History, War, Thriller.
That was the thing, he made such great movies in the 7 completely different genres. He has to be the only filmmaker to ever do that. Plus the films are in the top 5 in each genre.
Try again. Her mental breakdowm happened sometime in the 2000. She worked in the movies and had her own TV show all the way through the 90’s and was complementary about Kubrick in all of her interviews. M’kay?
I remember listening to a rare hour long interview with him and the interviewer kinda wondered out loud a pretty hard division question, Kubrick answered it in like 2 seconds. It wasnt "complex mathematics" per se, but i thought it was damm impressive being able to answer it so quickly off the top of his head.
@Mister Skarred yeah like 24 minutes was cut from the movie eyes wide shut, even nicole kidmans father was charged with abusing loads of children so fucked !!
Duvall was an executive producer on one of Showtime’s first original series Faerie Tale Theater. It was widely acclaimed and she did very well with it since she owned it. It had many big name directors doing episodes; Roger Vadim, Tim Burton (some of his first work) Francis Ford Coppola just to name a few. So she didn’t just drop off the face of the earth after The Shinning she just stepped behind the camera.
I've never heard of a single interview in which Shelly Duvall said she was mistreated, emotionally tortured, etc by Kubrick. She did admit in the making of the shining video that the ends justified the means. She didn't say that with bitterness.
@@bobthebear1246 Just a joke. Sorry for the confusion :) Whoa, when I saw your name, for a second I thought I was writing to a former SNL cast member lol
I love how a movie like The Shining is sort of a cult movie, unliked by King and some, but it’s such a subtle horrific tone piece, and a creepy isolated adaptation, it’s a very effective piece of work, I love how the character of Jack Torrance in Kubrick’s film was already crazy before the hotel stay. I would call the film a masterpiece, among other Kubrick films of course
@@aprilosborn1886 You're right, but I think Kubrick used it rather than trying to just be a 'fan' and bring it to the big screen. I say that because apparently he was taking jabs and King within the movie itself (one example being how he crashes the car from the book).
Do not expect a Kubrick film to be another adaptation. Stephen King’s story is a slow burning tragedy, but Stanley Kubrick created his own masterpiece and stamped his image into every detail. His adaptation is full of cinematic puzzles that unlock the depths and psychology of horror. The film touches on generational themes of trauma and guilt, like the slaughter of Native Americans. With Jack, we follow the labyrinth of his psyche as it unravels into primordial anger and animosity.
That’s honestly why I prefer the film. The sense of inevitability creates a sense of foreboding Horror whenever Jack is on screen, even in the early stages
Well...I thought the guy was respectable, I find the facts he presents interesting...then I saw him as a guest on this podcast, and I couldn't believe how fucking ignorant he was. Especially considering he's supposed to be Mr. Fact Checker.
I think he’s a smart dude, he does make a lot of good points. That being said that podcast was rough. He was way too confident about something we’re still learning about.
Shelly Duvall didn't quit acting after Popeye... she acted for another 22 years. And has recently done her first film in 20 years called "The Forest Hills" with Edward Furlong.
@totallybored5526 oh, man! I just scrolled through the cast and you weren't kidding! That's insane they got all those actors for these roles. Klaus Kinski as the beast? Paul Reubens as Pinocchio? Robin Williams as the Toad prince? How have I never heard of this?
The "making of the Shining" was shot mostly by Stanley Kubrick's wife, and not once does he ever call Shelly Duvall (not Shelly Long) names, but he was very abrupt with her when she didn't hear him yell action, for example. And he did a lot of things to get her worked up, but name calling wasn't one of them.
She's so likeable when she's having a normal conversation, if only she could be like this in her material. Fair enough, she's the rich comedian, not me, so she probably knows what she's doing.
Oscar Clarke no you’re totally right . I’ve seen plenty of stuff with her & I’ve found her unlikable in pretty much everything. Not just that but also rather annoying. But in this she seemed fine.
Leon Vitale who was Stanley's assistant/gopher, for years, after being in Barry Lyndon, played Red Cape in Eyes Wide Shut. Scary character. Surprised Joe didn't know who he was. He was very involved in the hiring of actors for Stanley's films, among many other things.
Originally it was scripted that when Lord Bullington (Leon Vitali) leaves home that it would be the end of his character. After seeing his performance, Kubrick completely rewrote the ending, having him return to duel with Barry at the show's climax. It was a brilliant move, considering that the film's theme was always basically "what goes around, comes around."
Michael Herr, who wrote "Dispatches," the best memoir of the Vietnam War, heavily revised the script of "Apocalypse Now." I think, when the film was near or perhaps already in the post-production phase of the project. Francis Coppola was unhappy with the episodic arc of the narrative. He thought it was a mess. So he hired Herr to write the voice-over of Captain Willard which effectively beaded the pearls of the scenes into a necklace and greatly improved the arc of the film. Also, the original script was written by Jon Milius. He went to UCLA Film School with George Lucas. Always a renegade and non-conformist right winger in the Hollywood community, his title was for the movie a sarcastic riff on the phrase "Peace Now" popular back then and adopted by the antiwar movement against the Vietnam War. But Coppola did keep intact the scene Milius wrote for the character Colonel Kilgore (" I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like victory.") in the final cut of the movie. Michael Herr also wrote much of the script for "Full Metal Jacket." Herr also wrote a great commemorative piece for Vanity Fair about working with Stanley Kubrick which later was published into a book. I served as a medical corpsman in Vietnam (31 May 1967 - 31 May 1968). Both "Apocalypse Now' and "Full Metal Jacket" are classic war movies about Vietnam. But my favorite still remains Oliver Stone's "Platoon." Stone just nailed it when it came to the grunts. But Kubrick's "Paths of Glory" i the best film I ever saw on war. Even though it was about the First World War on the Western Front with the French Army. The French were so enraged by the film that the government banned it being shown during its release in France in the late 1950s and it finally had an official release, I think, in the 1970s.
Shelly Duvall was awesome in "Popeye." The entire cast was. The guy who played Brutus, Robin Williams, Uncle Martin (Mr Hand for you younguns, by young, I mean between forty and fifty. I have no reference for Ray Walston [?] For anyone younger than that.) Highly underrated film. It skipped the cartoons entirely and really captured the feel of the old strips. I used to read those strips to the kids. "Hey, grandpa! Is the new Popeye out yet?" "It is Sunday, is it not? Gather around, kids."
I'm fairly certain Mark Walberg was the actor who they surprised with an explosion during a take. He was supposed to go on a 3 count and Mark would react and cover himself but the director went on like 1.5 and it caused Mark to get hurt in some way or almost get hurt or something. I don't know if it's who she was referencing but he definitely has a similar story.
@@jp9548 Why? Because they're both movies about Vietnam? There're plenty of them and if you were "obsessed" with someone you'd know which one they made.
@@markoos88 yeah. it was weird that she stumbled like that, but then proceeded to nerd out over the guy. I see you are a movie buff based on your uploads. thats cool man, ive been getting into watching movies and really paying attention to the small details and scene movement and stuff. i jumped on you only cause ive made that specific mistake mixing up platoon and Apocalypse Now. however i didnt write a thesis paper on it LOL :3
@@34672rr The books sell b/c sometimes a thing becomes a thing for no better reason than people get carried away with thinking it's, well, a thing. People sometimes just let themselves get swept along by hysteria or a meme or w/e and since stopping to ask 'why?' would make them feel and/or look foolish, they're not going to stop to ask 'why?'
@@josephwilliams1251 have you read shawshank? not a great book. never seen the mist so can't comment. anyway, the vast majority of films adapted from king are shit. there are so many though, that there has to be one or two hits. if you disagree, watch the shining that was made by king himself for TV which was faithful to the book. absolutely horrible. The shining by kubrick is an amazing film because it wasn't faithful, he just used the book because he wasn't a good writer. novel and film are so different from each other that the only good films made from novels are the ones with impeccable stories that transcend the medium
@@34672rr I walked out of the theater halfway through the Shining when it was a new release. Of course, I'd just read the book for the 3rd time a few weeks before going to see it. It took a few years before I could get through the whole movie. Even then is still pissed me off.
I had just started watching another video about the same thing but I saw this one and was like "oh yeah this one is gonna be way better". Joe's podcast is an infinite well of unusual knowledge
When he talks about the whole thing about actors staying into mindset and character the first thing I thought of was of Heath Ledger and his role for joker
The special edition shining has a great example of SK's genius. The "locked in pantry scene" was originally filmed from a side angle. SE shows SK deciding to change camera angle to below filming up. SK "were gonna try this angle Jack come with the same intensity." AMAZING
Kubrick was simply a genius, but he was also brutal to those around him... it’s a trade off most of us would not be willing to make, which is why there are no more genius film makers
alan rickmans reaction in die hard when he falls out the window was real....director said he would drop him on count of three..guess what he told the others to do?? lol
Apparently Martin Sheen had a Drunken melt down during the beginning of Apocalypse Now. It was his birthday and he was drunk and they had been living In hellish conditions and he legitimately had an emotional meltdown In the film.
Had a lady like this on my flight back to Belfast. She was literally angled, side steeping up and down the isle. One side got the gut rubbed on them, the other side had her stink hole aimed at them. And she bumped your leg if you left it in the isle. Not even a excuse me or a sorry
When Joe says he "raped" a 13 year old he means the guy had sex with a 13 year old. Quentin Tarantino actually debated this with Howard Stern. Stern was adamant that "It's rape" and Tarantino was like "not really". I lean towards Tarantinos view. Calling it rape is a bit disingenuous. Like how are you supposed to describe actual rape when you use rape like this? Did he rape a 13 year old or did he have sex with a 13 year old which you consider inappropriate.
@@latenightinterview291 I never comment on anything.. but you're trying to make it seem not so bad that this put his dick in a 13 y/o. You're a sick fuck and I hope you dont go near any schools
@blkcandywarez thank you for talking sense! I really hope that you're a man, because I'm starting to lose hope that all men aren't creepy perverts always on the prowl for their next unsuspecting victim. We need good men in this world! And wasn't she drugged out of her mind
Late Night Interview First off- minors cant consent to a sexual relationship with adults. 2nd She was drugged so she def. couldn’t give consent 3rd you’re gross
HBC423 No Country for Old Men, The Pianist, Grand Budapest Hotel; I love how popular selective memory becomes when talking about history. As though, left and right, films like Vertigo were being released every week.
@@HBC423 Drive, 12 years a slave, Prisoners, Warrior, The Raid, Intouchables, Life of Pi, The Hunt, End of watch, wolf of wall street, her, whiplash, gone girl, ex machina, nightcrawler, inception, Grand Budapest hotel, Lego movie, guardians of the galaxy, imitation game, dawn of the planet of the apes, senna, shutter island, shame, sicario, mad max, the revenant, room, arrival, hell or high water, I wont even get into how much more accessible foreign language movies are nowadays.
The idea of Shelley Long (and not Shelly Duvall) working with Kubrick cracks me up SO HARD. I keep picturing people shouting "NORM!" everytime Scatman Crothers showed up LOL
Kubrick did what he did because he didn't trust anyone. He was trying to make sure nobody could alter the final product from his intended vision. That's why he destroyed all his deleted scenes: because he knew the studio would try to put them back in. So he suspected that everyone would sabotage his work so he played all these mind games with them to keep them off-balance and exhausted. You don't have to do that to get good work, but it's also hard to get people to go to the place you need them to without having a visual reference to show them. Because of what Kubrick did to Shelley, you can show your actors the footage and say "can you go *here* ?" and they'll say "Whoa, I didn't know you wanted it *that* high. No wonder I wasn't getting it. Uh, no, actually I can't."
Apparently for Christian, it was an emotional scene in T-salvation and someone kept interrupting. It was after a couple of interruptions that he went off the rails.
JFK is the most underrated great film of all time. Plus, I get the point Joe is making but he says he was making it as a dramatist so he took some creative freedoms but what is miraculous is how close he got to a lot of the truths behind the scene of the assassination.
genius is going too far. even malcolm macdowell said so. he was profoundly driven and an extremely technical filmmaker, but genius is not the right word. At least artistic genius. That would be more like David lynch, and actually Kubrick said "eraserhead" was his favorite film
Love the clips as I don't get time to watch full podcasts. Who takes the time to edit out all the clips because it must take ages, whilst creating thumbnails for them as well.
Well Shining is also a critical film about the American Élites. Jack is actually pushed by the people (ghosts) inside the Hotel to make a sacrifice for them. They wanted him to start drinking again (the barman), then he kills a black man and try to kill his wife (she looks like a Native), so this guy should represent the American man brainwashed by the Élites for the massacre of minorities. At the end he didn't make it, but they give him anyway a prize (he is at the party of the 4th of July) cause he tried for the "country". The Hotel could represent America (built on a native cemetery). In all Kubrick's movies there is a symbolism against the élites, specially inside Eyes Wide Shut.
Kubrick hated living in Hollywood and would only go there on business or to accept awards; the rest of the time, he lived in either New York or London with his family. It's crazy how he got the label of a recluse and a madman simply for maintaining his privacy and not constantly shoving his image in the public eye, like most people the second they get famous.
Well the negative press I think is propaganda. I say that because Eyes Wide Shut was his last movie, and there's interview (forgot from who) where the man talks about how at the exec screening for the film, 45mins in two execs burst out with Kubrick screaming at him to the point where he thought they would break out into a physical fight. A week later Kubrick passes. Coincidence? Maybe, but the propaganda about him being crazy, is definitely not imo.
Lol he settled in a small place in England. The only time he had to travel was either to the set or a studio. He never left England (physically)!
@@thephilosopher7173couldn't agree more
@@thephilosopher7173 What were the execs so angry about? Did he put their image in the movie or something?
@@ct6852 Probably because of what he was depicting. If it hit close to home I imagine they'd want it removed and would be angry he'd put that kinda messaging in there.
Waiting for Quentin Tarantino on this podcast
Yessssss
it would be a great way to gain attention for his last film
Yeaaaa
Yes please
@@thebigbort do you think Kill bill vol 3 or star trek?
My favorite Kubrick story is from when he was shooting Paths to Glory. To quote Kirk Douglas' telling of the story: He made the veteran actor Adolphe Menjou do the same scene 17 times. "That was my best reading." Menjou announced. "I think we can break for lunch now." It was well past the usual lunch time but Kubrick said he wanted another take. Menjou went into an absolute fury. In front of Douglas and the entire crew he blasted off on what he claimed was Kubrick's dubious parentage and made several other unprintable references to Kubrick's relative greenness in the art of directing actors. Kubrick merely listened calmly and after Menjou had spluttered to an uncomplimentary conclusion said quietly: "All right, let's try the scene once more." With utter docility, Menjou went back to work.
So Kubrick was a nut case and sadist. Got it. If you need 17 takes either you are a poor Director; you hired the wrong actor.
Malcolm McDowell in his commentary on A CLOCKWORK ORANGE notes that on that film Kubrick did few takes because, after all the cost overruns on 2001, he was determined to prove to Warner Brothers that he could bring a film in under budget.
Kubrick was the Gus Fring of directors.
Mr. Kubrick, I've done this scene 17 times already! I need to eat!
"Get back to work"
@@megaultradamn If he did a lot of scenes over and over with Tom Cruise you gotta wonder how much worse THAT film could have been. Kubrick was more like the Rain Man; obsessed to the point of absurdity.
I think it's why Harvey Keitel left one of his movies. He kept wanting him to do the same scene over and over.
clockwork orange is a masterpiece just saying
Absolutely correct 👏👏👍
Viddy, viddy. Little brother.
When I was a kid I use to walk around and sing I’m sing in the rain I can’t remember and I saw that movie I was like yo people prob thought I was on something
@@matthewjackson130 good old ultra violence
The beginning for sure .the rest... It’s a tough watch. But it sticks with you for a while. Also knowing darth Vader is the bodyguard is kinda gnarly
Shelley long was NOT in the Shining. It was Shelley Duvall.
I like how she mumbled out loon,,,g
Next you'll be telling me Ted Danson wasn't Jack Torrance.
perkyporkpie and woody played Danny
Lol, yess... the Shelley from cheers and the Shelley from Popeye and the shining are VERY different!
Same person
"Do you know the show Adam ruins everything? " Joe: "the chalk outline of his body is right over there".
haha
Lmfao 😂
Love your comment ! 100
Easy thumbs up right there bro..epic comment
hahahahhaha. fucking dead.
My favorite director..... you could take any frame of film, blow it up, and have a nice poster for your wall. Whether Dr. Strangelove, Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, 2001, Shining, Eyes Wide Shut....just amazing body of work.
or the moon landing :P
Im currently watching Barry Lyndon it’s in the Dvd player while I’m working typing this. And you are 100% right I was thinking the same thing while watching the film.
A lot of that praise should be directed to John Alcott, Kubrick’s cinematographer.
To a Kubrick fanatic, the errors in this discussion are coming fast & furious
Daniel Cowan your mom wants to know who that is
@@413. thx for making the internet just a little bit stupider
Daniel Cowan one comment at a time 💪
@Vincent H. agree with the first half of your statement.
@Vincent H. Paths of Glory is the one that bowled me over. The Killing is also very underrated.
I went to a screening of The Shining in 4K Remastering done by Leon Vitali himself at the Egyptian Theatre a few months ago. He just humbly stood in the lobby before the film, no one really talking to him. So I went up to him and was able to tell him how thankful I was for his work. He asked me questions about myself. Really humble sweet soul. Then he gave an amazing Q & A before the screening with some wonderful facts on the making of The Shining. He sat amongst the audience and watched the film sitting alone. Every now and then I’d peek up at him and he would be so invested and sometimes smiling. You can tell he really has so much joy for film.
If you haven’t seen Film Worker on Netflix...you must.
Great documentary what an incredible human being.
Leon i remember on fmj......such a nice person etc.....and a very good actor too. Stew fmj crew.
Kubrick was such a genius. He was a gateway drug to filmmakers that I may not have understood or comprehended if Kubrick hadn’t taught me to look at film differently, folks like Bergman, Tarkovsky, Herzog.
No doubt. Kubrick was that for me during my early teens. And then Bergman and Tarkovsky completely blew the fucking doors off for me, they showed me what films were capable of being.
same boat...
Came for the Kubrick, stayed for the creepy doll in the background
Tim Black It’s the Whitney Cummings sex robot. I’m saving up $$$
I think I saw it move.
That's not a doll, that's Whitney Cummings
Boyhood literally filmed over the growing up of a young boy into a college aged man. Flipping trippy to watch in real time. Went so long that they couldn't even contractually bind the actors to filming for the movie, so it was all done based on good faith that everyone would return. THAT has got to be the record for longest movie production ever.
Boyhood is really underrated
But the thing is that they shoot the film for like once or twice for every 12 years...i believe the record for the longest movie production is Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut..man, they worked on that film for like 400 days straight
Hoop Dreams was shot over a number of years. Fantastic movie! Best of the 90s according to Roger Ebert
Platoon was Oliver Stone, not Apocalypse Now.
F.F.Coppola did Apocalypse Now
@JezBollah 667 Stanley Kubrick
Teddy James you should one of the if not the best war movies of all time
Teddy James in my opinion yes but I love both and they’re both 2 of the greatest war movies ever!
Actually, she says something about "writing the movie". it seems she made a confusion between Stone and John Millius, who really wrote the first draft of Apocalypse Now.
Laurence Oliver to Dustin Hoffman during the making of Marathon
“How did your week go, dear boy,” Olivier said.
Hoffman told him that he had filmed a scene in which his character was supposed to have been up for three days straight.
“So what did you do?” Olivier asked.
“Well, I stayed up for three days and three nights.”
Laurence Olivier then uttered this famous line, “Why don’t you just try acting?”
Actually, Hoffman later attributed his lack of sleep for 3 nights to excessive partying He didn't really stay up on purpose to achieve authenticity.
Olivier did shove gerbils up his ass, though, which he called "acting"
I wish that I could like this comment a billion times. Yeah, how about it? Just f-ing act.
@@timothyivey5497 My high school English teacher relayed a similar story about Hoffman where he starved himself for a role and a co-star essentially said the same thing.
@@34672rr He and Danny Kaye were lovers.
In the scene they're watching Jack prepare for his scene, it then shows the part where he swings the axe at the door to break in. The camera swings along with the axe then stops dead on the right as the axe brutally hits and sticks in the door. Kubrick is making the viewer "feel" the axe. No amount of CGI tech or trendy non-linear speed adjustments can give a director this kind of creative power. You just have it or you don't. Kubrick had it.
Similar to this is Ridley Scott's Bladerunner. I hear tell the crew and many in the production hated him because he was relentless and did whatever it took to get the shot he wanted. He'd go long over normal hours and would expect everyone else to do the same. The end product is still talked about today - and is a masterpiece, in my opinion - so there's something to be said about suffering for the art. But, like Kubrick, I doubt it could be done today in most circumstances.
The crew hated him not because of perfectionism but because he wanted a British crew and he said American crews sucked. Not a good way to win people over.
James Cameron was also considered a brutal director to work with. The entire cast of The Abyss said working on that movie was fucking torture.
@@theonewhoistornapart2506 Except that James Cameron is a hack who hasn't produced anything remotely close to the artistry of 2001 and Blade Runner. His a-holery is wasted lol. His best movie T2 is still nothing more than a well made dudebro sci fi action movie.
@@Phil_MitchellL take. Yikes
@@Phil_Mitchell bruh 3 directors you can't remotely compare. You're comparing an action genius to 2 other geniuses in their respective areas.
Whitney: "I did a show called Adam Ruins Everything, you know that show?"
Joe: *must...resist...ranting about transgender athletes* "Mmhmm." 😶
Adam did something on trans athletes?
As soon as she started on Adam "being a smart dude", I paused the video and went straight to the comments section
@@AdobadoFantastico talked about it with koe on his episode of this podcast. And it is one of the dumbest, most anti intellectual arguments adam displays that it is crazy.
It really showed a massive issue in the way people.think about.That topic and a very very ignorant.way Adam from.That show talks.and.thinks about.issues
@@samir6047 Adam ruins everything. It's a series on CZcams
Resist rating about children being transgender
Kubrick's Barry Lyndon is a masterpiece.
Agreed, one of the best films ever made.
I've always wanted to see that.
Which is pretty amazing since Ryan O'Neal was generally a pretty shitty actor.
A beautiful and slow masterpiece
one of my favorites, for sure. Have to watch it about every year or two.
And Stanley Kubrick is the god of filmmakers. He made GOAT movies in every genre possible - Horror, Science Fiction, Crime, Comedy, Drama, Psychological, History, War, Thriller.
That was the thing, he made such great movies in the 7 completely different genres. He has to be the only filmmaker to ever do that. Plus the films are in the top 5 in each genre.
Psychological, historical, war, thriller
Which comedy movie he did ?
@@crazypato3752 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
@@crazypato3752 Dr. Strangelove that would be
“She was emotionally abused then she never acted again idk why” mhmmmm I wonder if those two are linked🤔🤔
Try again. Her mental breakdowm happened sometime in the 2000. She worked in the movies and had her own TV show all the way through the 90’s and was complementary about Kubrick in all of her interviews. M’kay?
She's gone bat crazy, she's balls deep into conspiracy theories.
telephonic wait really?
@@trulyadmirable7982 Yeah i saw a interview with her, she has some interesting views lol.
That’s the joke...
The point she made about actors needing to avoid all of the distractions on set and the stress of it all making them snap makes perfect sense to me.
Same
Adam is not a really smart guy lmao
yep he is a beta who htinks he konws everything
He is a tool that virtue signals
Or that is what the germans would have us to believe.
Yeah she lost me there
Adam is a precious snowflake. Lmao
the out of context sex doll is my favorite part of this.
Kubrick didn't do complex mathematics in his spare time, he played chess and was amazing at it.
I never understood how that mathematics rumor got started. It was never mentioned in any of the documentaries about him.
I remember listening to a rare hour long interview with him and the interviewer kinda wondered out loud a pretty hard division question, Kubrick answered it in like 2 seconds. It wasnt "complex mathematics" per se, but i thought it was damm impressive being able to answer it so quickly off the top of his head.
Stanley Kubrick's death was incredibly suspicious
Well, before he died he was really sick.
@Mister Skarred yeah like 24 minutes was cut from the movie eyes wide shut, even nicole kidmans father was charged with abusing loads of children so fucked !!
Alex Jones has the documents
@@timjim875 I bet both my legs on it that Nicole Kidman is a man.
Nomak The Cursed czcams.com/video/xFiTFoY1tCc/video.html Michelle Obama is clearly a man 👨
Duvall was an executive producer on one of Showtime’s first original series Faerie Tale Theater. It was widely acclaimed and she did very well with it since she owned it. It had many big name directors doing episodes; Roger Vadim, Tim Burton (some of his first work) Francis Ford Coppola just to name a few. So she didn’t just drop off the face of the earth after The Shinning she just stepped behind the camera.
I've never heard of a single interview in which Shelly Duvall said she was mistreated, emotionally tortured, etc by Kubrick. She did admit in the making of the shining video that the ends justified the means. She didn't say that with bitterness.
"Watching JFK... it so fucking blew my mind!"
Maybe a poor choice of words there on Whitney's part.
Naaaa, perfect
I agree nasty millenials
I've studied the JFK assassination for the past 30 yrs. There's nothing accurate in the entire movie.
LOL RIP
this is like the equivalent of listening to your friends greg and paul from spanish class talk about what goes on behind the scenes at nasa
Oh you mean how those nazi scientists at NASA are trying to figure out clever ways of killing their own citizens?
Ridley Scott didn’t tell the cast what was coming with the chest burster scene in Alien...so their reactions are largely genuine...
plus the fx crew didnt tell ridley they were gonna use a real alien. john hurt actually died that day. ridley's never gotten over it lol
@@gotocustudiofilmsthecheapb3802 WTF dude. John Hurt lived into the 2000s. 🙄
@@bobthebear1246 Just a joke. Sorry for the confusion :) Whoa, when I saw your name, for a second I thought I was writing to a former SNL cast member lol
@@bobthebear1246 bruh
Apocalypse Now was based on Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
That it was
Doubledown11 best book I've ever read
Heart of Darkness was our 8th grade English Literature book in Jr. High back in the day! Existentialism at the age of 13!😂
@@parisdupree8940 8th grade? Wow that's a tough book for an 8th grader to understand
@@dumbdickler670 I also believe everything I read on the internet.
I love how a movie like The Shining is sort of a cult movie, unliked by King and some, but it’s such a subtle horrific tone piece, and a creepy isolated adaptation, it’s a very effective piece of work, I love how the character of Jack Torrance in Kubrick’s film was already crazy before the hotel stay. I would call the film a masterpiece, among other Kubrick films of course
The thing is there wouldn't be a 'The 'Shining' with out genius Stephen Kings' book, Kubrick just cashed in, that's all
King's novel was far more terrifying than the Kubrick adaptation to me. I love all tellings but the TV series told it better.
I do like 'The Shining', the scariest scene for me was the twins in the hallway, I can't watch it, but the one time yrs ago, gives you nightmares..
@@aprilosborn1886 You're right, but I think Kubrick used it rather than trying to just be a 'fan' and bring it to the big screen. I say that because apparently he was taking jabs and King within the movie itself (one example being how he crashes the car from the book).
Probably the single most OVERrated movie of all time. It's drivel.
“I was on the show called Adam Ruins Everything”
Joe: ....
High Priest of Gavin Almighty He Who Doth Exist he was a smart guy 😂
Lmfao
Joes like yeah he’s never been on my show
We are all trying to forget.
Help
I love Stanley Kubrick convos!
"My book was about a sane man that went crazy. Kubrick's movie was about a crazy guy that went bonkers."
-Stephen King
Do not expect a Kubrick film to be another adaptation. Stephen King’s story is a slow burning tragedy, but Stanley Kubrick created his own masterpiece and stamped his image into every detail. His adaptation is full of cinematic puzzles that unlock the depths and psychology of horror. The film touches on generational themes of trauma and guilt, like the slaughter of Native Americans. With Jack, we follow the labyrinth of his psyche as it unravels into primordial anger and animosity.
@@cinemaster9012
Hey man, Steve King said it. I'm just quoting.
That’s honestly why I prefer the film. The sense of inevitability creates a sense of foreboding Horror whenever Jack is on screen, even in the early stages
@@fh854
Only Jack Nicholson could have made that work.
No other.
"Who gives a shit what Stephen King thinks of the shining? The Shining has nothing to do with Stephen King" - Louis CK.
"I did a show... Adam Ruins Everything... Such a smart dude"
*_Joe Rogan having flashesbacks of the Joe Rogan Ruins Adam Conover episode_*
King David She thinks he’s smart because he says things she wants to hear.
Well...I thought the guy was respectable, I find the facts he presents interesting...then I saw him as a guest on this podcast, and I couldn't believe how fucking ignorant he was. Especially considering he's supposed to be Mr. Fact Checker.
I think he’s a smart dude, he does make a lot of good points. That being said that podcast was rough. He was way too confident about something we’re still learning about.
@@Simplejackfade "adam was confident in something he knew nothing about" this is what you should have said
Hey, cool points for recognizing Kubrick's genius.......all points lost for think Adam is a "really smart guy..."
he's a smart guy, a knowledgable guy. he just has stupid opinions.
@@everwhat013 - That is how he ruins everything.
Shelly Duvall didn't quit acting after Popeye... she acted for another 22 years. And has recently done her first film in 20 years called "The Forest Hills" with Edward Furlong.
@totallybored5526 oh, man!
I just scrolled through the cast and you weren't kidding!
That's insane they got all those actors for these roles.
Klaus Kinski as the beast?
Paul Reubens as Pinocchio?
Robin Williams as the Toad prince?
How have I never heard of this?
Christian Bale freaking out would be like Jimmy Hendrix was recording a killer solo and someone kept playing cowbell in the corner. Totally justified.
Hey, cowbell is cool!!
The "making of the Shining" was shot mostly by Stanley Kubrick's wife, and not once does he ever call Shelly Duvall (not Shelly Long) names, but he was very abrupt with her when she didn't hear him yell action, for example. And he did a lot of things to get her worked up, but name calling wasn't one of them.
That was his daughter Vivian Kubrick who made that! Not wife lol.
She was referring to THE THING. John Carpenter gave Kurt Russell real dynamite and didn't tell him.
I thought it was about The Dark Knight in the scene with exploding hospital.
Kubrick is far and away my favorite director.
_"I did a show called Adam Ruins Everything"_
Joe: *internal screaming*
haha .. still great guest no?
She's so likeable when she's having a normal conversation, if only she could be like this in her material.
Fair enough, she's the rich comedian, not me, so she probably knows what she's doing.
Oscar Clarke no you’re totally right . I’ve seen plenty of stuff with her & I’ve found her unlikable in pretty much everything. Not just that but also rather annoying. But in this she seemed fine.
Thanks for clarifying/qualifying your whinge.
Joe “Nice Guy Though” Rogan.
Leon Vitale who was Stanley's assistant/gopher, for years, after being in Barry Lyndon, played Red Cape in Eyes Wide Shut. Scary character. Surprised Joe didn't know who he was. He was very involved in the hiring of actors for Stanley's films, among many other things.
Originally it was scripted that when Lord Bullington (Leon Vitali) leaves home that it would be the end of his character. After seeing his performance, Kubrick completely rewrote the ending, having him return to duel with Barry at the show's climax. It was a brilliant move, considering that the film's theme was always basically "what goes around, comes around."
Michael Herr, who wrote "Dispatches," the best memoir of the Vietnam War, heavily revised the script of "Apocalypse Now." I think, when the film was near or perhaps already in the post-production phase of the project. Francis Coppola was unhappy with the episodic arc of the narrative. He thought it was a mess. So he hired Herr to write the voice-over of Captain Willard which effectively beaded the pearls of the scenes into a necklace and greatly improved the arc of the film. Also, the original script was written by Jon Milius. He went to UCLA Film School with George Lucas. Always a renegade and non-conformist right winger in the Hollywood community, his title was for the movie a sarcastic riff on the phrase "Peace Now" popular back then and adopted by the antiwar movement against the Vietnam War. But Coppola did keep intact the scene Milius wrote for the character Colonel Kilgore (" I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It smells like victory.") in the final cut of the movie. Michael Herr also wrote much of the script for "Full Metal Jacket." Herr also wrote a great commemorative piece for Vanity Fair about working with Stanley Kubrick which later was published into a book. I served as a medical corpsman in Vietnam (31 May 1967 - 31 May 1968). Both "Apocalypse Now' and "Full Metal Jacket" are classic war movies about Vietnam. But my favorite still remains Oliver Stone's "Platoon." Stone just nailed it when it came to the grunts. But Kubrick's "Paths of Glory" i the best film I ever saw on war. Even though it was about the First World War on the Western Front with the French Army. The French were so enraged by the film that the government banned it being shown during its release in France in the late 1950s and it finally had an official release, I think, in the 1970s.
Shelly Duvall was awesome in "Popeye."
The entire cast was. The guy who played Brutus, Robin Williams, Uncle Martin (Mr Hand for you younguns, by young, I mean between forty and fifty. I have no reference for Ray Walston [?] For anyone younger than that.)
Highly underrated film. It skipped the cartoons entirely and really captured the feel of the old strips. I used to read those strips to the kids.
"Hey, grandpa! Is the new Popeye out yet?"
"It is Sunday, is it not? Gather around, kids."
Imagine someone trying to direct the actors the way Kubrick did in 2020 though?
I studied acting from childhood and I loved taking on the mindset and stuff of characters.
I'm fairly certain Mark Walberg was the actor who they surprised with an explosion during a take. He was supposed to go on a 3 count and Mark would react and cover himself but the director went on like 1.5 and it caused Mark to get hurt in some way or almost get hurt or something. I don't know if it's who she was referencing but he definitely has a similar story.
Kubrick helped fake the moon landing. He was such a stickler he insisted doing it on location. Winning
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😅
That is superb DD
My dads generation put man on the moon...this generation put a man in the ladies room.
Kubrink movies where great top 8 in my book
She's so obsessed with Oliver Stone she doesn't know he had nothing to do with Apocalypse Now.
Oliver stone directed platoon... i can see the mix up there.
@@jp9548 Why? Because they're both movies about Vietnam? There're plenty of them and if you were "obsessed" with someone you'd know which one they made.
@@markoos88 yeah. it was weird that she stumbled like that, but then proceeded to nerd out over the guy. I see you are a movie buff based on your uploads. thats cool man, ive been getting into watching movies and really paying attention to the small details and scene movement and stuff. i jumped on you only cause ive made that specific mistake mixing up platoon and Apocalypse Now. however i didnt write a thesis paper on it LOL :3
every single one of us have random unknown gaps in our knowledge 🤷♂️
@@magneto44 stop with your absymal excuses, it's pathetic.
Whitney: “Adam’s a really smart guy.”
Rogan: “I don’t think we’re talking about the same person.”
The inspiration for Apocalypse Now came from Francis Ford Coppola's reading of Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness."
The way to make a great movie is to use a Steven King novel and alter it to piss off Steven King.
why because Kubrick did it once? stephen king movies suck because they were not meant for film
@@34672rr The books sell b/c sometimes a thing becomes a thing for no better reason than people get carried away with thinking it's, well, a thing. People sometimes just let themselves get swept along by hysteria or a meme or w/e and since stopping to ask 'why?' would make them feel and/or look foolish, they're not going to stop to ask 'why?'
@@34672rr I dunno, Shawshank Redemption was solid, same for the Mist.
@@josephwilliams1251 have you read shawshank? not a great book. never seen the mist so can't comment. anyway, the vast majority of films adapted from king are shit. there are so many though, that there has to be one or two hits. if you disagree, watch the shining that was made by king himself for TV which was faithful to the book. absolutely horrible.
The shining by kubrick is an amazing film because it wasn't faithful, he just used the book because he wasn't a good writer. novel and film are so different from each other that the only good films made from novels are the ones with impeccable stories that transcend the medium
@@34672rr I walked out of the theater halfway through the Shining when it was a new release. Of course, I'd just read the book for the 3rd time a few weeks before going to see it. It took a few years before I could get through the whole movie. Even then is still pissed me off.
I had just started watching another video about the same thing but I saw this one and was like "oh yeah this one is gonna be way better". Joe's podcast is an infinite well of unusual knowledge
I love listen to you entire podcast
Shelley Long, Barry London.......argh must close video
room 236
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
She clearly said Duvall after ;)
When he talks about the whole thing about actors staying into mindset and character the first thing I thought of was of Heath Ledger and his role for joker
I could listen to Whitney & Rogan geek out about movies forever
I love that they talked about this.
Kubrick’s assistant on the show would be awesome!!!
I know that guy has the stories & so loyal to Kubrick
0:50 Whitney knew Jamie would "bring it up" :D
I remember that Cheers episode Kubrick directed. Awesome!
The special edition shining has a great example of SK's genius. The "locked in pantry scene" was originally filmed from a side angle. SE shows SK deciding to change camera angle to below filming up. SK "were gonna try this angle Jack come with the same intensity." AMAZING
Kubrick was great at chess. He would play chess with George C Scott between shoots on Dr. Strangelove.
@@DamTheKid Ladies, Ladies ....PLEASE. You can swap recipes later ...
Hmmmm I googles "mehst one" and it's just a bunch of forum posts in micropenis support forums. Sorry for you life
He was a mathematical genius who loved games.
@@DamTheKid..........didn't think so .............lol
@@kenmills4977 awesome job... keep up the good work
Kubrick was simply a genius, but he was also brutal to those around him... it’s a trade off most of us would not be willing to make, which is why there are no more genius film makers
Stanley was always so nice to me Stew FMJ Crew.
alan rickmans reaction in die hard when he falls out the window was real....director said he would drop him on count of three..guess what he told the others to do?? lol
one of the best guests
Apparently Martin Sheen had a Drunken melt down during the beginning of Apocalypse Now. It was his birthday and he was drunk and they had been living In hellish conditions and he legitimately had an emotional meltdown In the film.
He broke his hand when he punched the mirror
"flight attendants "boy they let that go" no shit, I recently had a flight attendant that was so fat she had to walk down the aisle sideways.
Mory I’d hit it
@@zachsimon9475 you'd hit it with everyone else on the plane at once.
You should try Qatar airways, they most definitely did not let it go
Had a lady like this on my flight back to Belfast. She was literally angled, side steeping up and down the isle. One side got the gut rubbed on them, the other side had her stink hole aimed at them. And she bumped your leg if you left it in the isle. Not even a excuse me or a sorry
Really enjoyed this podcast with WC.
I stepped into this with no podcast and thought the creepy mannequin was just Whitney's reflection
00:58 These days, we have method actors. Back in the day, we had method directors. 😂
John Milius wrote “Apocalypse Now.” 😎✌️
The sequel to the shinning called Dr. Sleep was amazing. It blew my mind and watched it 3 times already
The way joe reacted to adam ruins everything was priceless
“There was support for Roman Polanski?”
“I mustve missed that”
What a phony- They gave him standing ovations at award shows Whitney
When Joe says he "raped" a 13 year old he means the guy had sex with a 13 year old. Quentin Tarantino actually debated this with Howard Stern. Stern was adamant that "It's rape" and Tarantino was like "not really". I lean towards Tarantinos view. Calling it rape is a bit disingenuous. Like how are you supposed to describe actual rape when you use rape like this? Did he rape a 13 year old or did he have sex with a 13 year old which you consider inappropriate.
@@latenightinterview291 I never comment on anything.. but you're trying to make it seem not so bad that this put his dick in a 13 y/o. You're a sick fuck and I hope you dont go near any schools
@blkcandywarez thank you for talking sense! I really hope that you're a man, because I'm starting to lose hope that all men aren't creepy perverts always on the prowl for their next unsuspecting victim. We need good men in this world! And wasn't she drugged out of her mind
@Starscream91 what do you mean?
Late Night Interview
First off-
minors cant consent to a sexual relationship with adults.
2nd
She was drugged so she def. couldn’t give consent
3rd you’re gross
Kubrick may not have been able to make his movies today because of politics, but look at how crappy today's movies are by comparison.
Go back buddy and actually look through the last decade. There are a tonne of great films.
@@Leo31291 name one
HBC423 No Country for Old Men, The Pianist, Grand Budapest Hotel; I love how popular selective memory becomes when talking about history. As though, left and right, films like Vertigo were being released every week.
@@HBC423 Drive, 12 years a slave, Prisoners, Warrior, The Raid, Intouchables, Life of Pi, The Hunt, End of watch, wolf of wall street, her, whiplash, gone girl, ex machina, nightcrawler, inception, Grand Budapest hotel, Lego movie, guardians of the galaxy, imitation game, dawn of the planet of the apes, senna, shutter island, shame, sicario, mad max, the revenant, room, arrival, hell or high water,
I wont even get into how much more accessible foreign language movies are nowadays.
@@elvispelvis1752 no country for old men was a good movie, I believe that was more than 10 years ago though
This lady's personality is awesome!
The idea of Shelley Long (and not Shelly Duvall) working with Kubrick cracks me up SO HARD. I keep picturing people shouting "NORM!" everytime Scatman Crothers showed up LOL
Kubrick did what he did because he didn't trust anyone. He was trying to make sure nobody could alter the final product from his intended vision. That's why he destroyed all his deleted scenes: because he knew the studio would try to put them back in. So he suspected that everyone would sabotage his work so he played all these mind games with them to keep them off-balance and exhausted. You don't have to do that to get good work, but it's also hard to get people to go to the place you need them to without having a visual reference to show them.
Because of what Kubrick did to Shelley, you can show your actors the footage and say "can you go *here* ?" and they'll say "Whoa, I didn't know you wanted it *that* high. No wonder I wasn't getting it. Uh, no, actually I can't."
@Cuthbert Bracegirdle Oh shit, that's a blend of a final sentence and a deleted sentence I didn't fully erase. Thanks for noticing.
Apparently for Christian, it was an emotional scene in T-salvation and someone kept interrupting. It was after a couple of interruptions that he went off the rails.
JFK is the most underrated great film of all time. Plus, I get the point Joe is making but he says he was making it as a dramatist so he took some creative freedoms but what is miraculous is how close he got to a lot of the truths behind the scene of the assassination.
Looks like I’ll be watching “The Shining” tonight. For the uptenth time, but a classic is a bloody classic 🤷♀️
Stanley was a genius for sure. And Bale goes to extremes to be in character.
genius is going too far. even malcolm macdowell said so. he was profoundly driven and an extremely technical filmmaker, but genius is not the right word. At least artistic genius. That would be more like David lynch, and actually Kubrick said "eraserhead" was his favorite film
my love for whitney has grown exponentially knowing that she is a Kubrick fan.
she's really hot too.
She has no idea what she's talking about. If she fooled you, well, you're the bigger fool for believing her.
Joe has the bob lazar sketch on a shirt! Hell yeah love it!
I forgot there was a robot, freaked me out when they switched to it XD
the insides of their heads aren't much different judging from this conversation lol
Love the clips as I don't get time to watch full podcasts. Who takes the time to edit out all the clips because it must take ages, whilst creating thumbnails for them as well.
Meh prob doesn’t take that long
@@floatinggoose9197 plus hes there during the podcast so he probably knows what parts hes gonna make a clip you know
Whitney quickly got the conversation away from Hollywood's acceptance of Roman Polanski.
It was almost like he never asked it.
As well they should....
that doll scared me lol 😂
You can only get there too as you put it *"that place quote"* unquote quote.
either if you've been there before or you are ready to go there.
Her bringing up Stanley Kubrick made her hotter... didn’t know that was possible
Edit she brought up Adam ruins everything it went down a little lol
Ezr 15 if fake over natural is your thing....
There must be balance
I’d rather fuck the robot
Ezr 15 lol you the type of dude that would make out with Michael Jackson
when she brought up Adam and calling him a smart guy is when I lost it all for her.
Damn are yall going to let the 3rd guest talk
the 9th gate is an awesome movie.
Well Shining is also a critical film about the American Élites. Jack is actually pushed by the people (ghosts) inside the Hotel to make a sacrifice for them. They wanted him to start drinking again (the barman), then he kills a black man and try to kill his wife (she looks like a Native), so this guy should represent the American man brainwashed by the Élites for the massacre of minorities. At the end he didn't make it, but they give him anyway a prize (he is at the party of the 4th of July) cause he tried for the "country". The Hotel could represent America (built on a native cemetery). In all Kubrick's movies there is a symbolism against the élites, specially inside Eyes Wide Shut.