As if socialism dosnt produce things lmaoo, as if the soviets didn’t make cars. Such ludicrous logic that they just let slip in and than refused allow a response for
No disrespect to any of those guests on the panel, however Kwame is a HEAVY WEIGHT. Profound, thinker and great historian of our people. Guy didn't even take a sip of water, he's a savage.
No savageness in the spiritual walk🙏🏾 no backwardness. It's not a good ingredient to the recipe of consciousness. We must unlearn,-,+ and relearn reset the ÷ mindset
11.11.2023 This is not a normal behavior, that we will be attacking each other. My people are not stupid. We were made stupid, brainwashed, and twisted against our own good , to hate ourselves and anything/anyone that looks like us. Patterns of thought are taught. Now, I live in Europe. It is easier for me to think and analyze. Whiteman has ambushed the progress and prosperity of Africans and Africa. *"HISTORY TEACHES US REPEATEDLY THAT WE DIDN'T LEARN FROM IT." WARIE PORBENI RADIOZEATERCLUB*
Ramona Edelin handled this topic with ease, she understood the deeper meaning behind the name change, conscious behavior and what is needed to realize transformation in our people. She reminds me a lot of Dr. Amos Wilson. Kwame Ture cut through the other two like a hot knife and stood as a model of what Ramona Edelin was conveying ✊🏾
Who's watching this in May and June of 2020?....coming out of lockdown and out in the streets and back in curfew... George Floyd will never be forgotten...
oh its gonna get worse for your people. i've heard things about what the jewboys are trying to do with you negros. oh yes. you're lucky this aryan only wants you out of my country. jewboys want you out of commission
@lion x warrior black Americans are the descendents of those Africans that were enslave in the u.s Just like black Trinidad or Jamaica are the descendents of those Africans that were enslave in those places.
@lion x warrior it's obvious from what I wrote , by black America I meant descendents of slavery in u.s. Now , I told u what I meant ,now I'm interested in knowing ur point.
Kwame Ture is my man. Kwame Ture is so inspiration. Baba Kwame is totally right that we are Africans no matter where we are globally. Am an African without fear nor favour. Baba Kwame Ture is so inspiring as well as made us feel so proud to be Africans. These two stooges are so worthless while our queen is self conscious just like Kwame Ture.
"Those like WEB Dubois, who believe the race problem will be solved through higher education, will work from now until eternity and never see the problem solved. The Black man will never be respected, until AFRICA is redeemed!!" - Hon. Marcus Garvey
@Catherine Alexis indeed, but I think due to the origins of the land. Meaning when things may go wrong in the West, they have somewhere to go to. It is a bit different because Afro Caribbeans are the majority, so they technically have "land." However, I feel as though they should feel like they have a home where they initially came from. The way Europe continues to suck from Africa is intentional, its to keep it on its knees so its children in the continent and out don't feel safe, they don't feel connected and they don't feel like they can run home. But I definitely agree with you! It's more of just having a base. The foundation. But again, trust me I agree as well as Afro Latinos etc etc! Big up🥰
"... we are the only ethnic group in American that must shed our blood to make reform, to get the vote we must shed our blood, to get our children to school we must shed our blood, to get on a bus and sit where we want we must shed our blood, to even get in a filthy 5 and 10 cent store we must shed our blood ..." I respect Mr. Llewellyn but brothers like Kwame are the soul of our people.
We are AFRIKAN people stolen from Afrika, Brother Kwame Toure was one of the truest Afrikan freedom fighters and led Afrikan people towards Pan-Afrikanism, The total Organization and liberation of Afrikan people worldwide,, we must continue to fight for Afrika' and the liberation of Afrikan minds and people Tuko Pamoja! And rest in power"Brother Kwame" We the people love you"🦁
Identity is a foundational question that Africans must get correct because if not one will seek to make contributions to their enemy instead of liberation!
Thank you! Know your real identity, stick with it and be loyal to it! Black peoples all over the world struggle with this! The struggle is real on both sides! Those of us that were left behind and those that were taken captives! We all have been brainwashed to believe there’s nothing good about us! But thanks be to God, that viel of lies is been lifted off of our eyes!!
Wow we Africans want things, what about our autonomy and our self determination, our culture, our traditions, our history, our values? Moreover we didnt have Capitalsm historically but people still were alloacted lands, and we built our huts and herded our livestock and we had things as stated above. Oh but wait those dont count as things
We can choose to name ourselves, exercising our Kujichagulia/Self-determination, anything we want, including African, African American, African Caribbean, African Canadian as African Jamaican reggae singer Peter Tosh sang "Don't care where you come from, as long as you're a Black man, you're an African."
This is the year I met Kwame Ture in Berkeley, California. Knew him for 8 years. One thing I notice about Kwame, he could fire the strength his points home according to the persons he's addressing. Me, I fire for effect with every comment while in debate, for complete obliteration. Rest in Power, brother.
as a white man I wonder how can I be a good ally. I understand the message of self reliance from Malcom X, and I also understand the message of integration. if I am told that being white makes me an enemy, I am only pushed away
@@roc7880 The best way sincere whites can help is work to end the racism in the white community, and not join black organizations. So, you can help us , but you can't join us. There can be no black-white unity until there is black unity. Until that is understood nothing changes.
11.11.2023 This is not a normal behavior, that we will be attacking each other. My people are not stupid. We were made stupid, brainwashed, and twisted against our own good , to hate ourselves and anything/anyone that looks like us. Patterns of thought are taught. Now, I live in Europe. It is easier for me to think and analyze. Whiteman has ambushed the progress and prosperity of Africans and Africa. *"HISTORY TEACHES US REPEATEDLY THAT WE DIDN'T LEARN FROM IT." WARIE PORBENI RADIOZEATERCLUB*
Ofc!! Because we never fixed anything. Because when you have people like Ramona and Kwame, you have these other two dumbdumbs that hold us back and WE STILL HAVE THEM. I fear that we ain't going any damn where. 🙆🏽♀️ so frustrating.
YEEEESSS Ramon Edelin: "Its a myth that individuals move forward and certainly we can't accept that 2 or 3 of our groups emerging year after year while the vast masses of us continue to go down, we have a responsibility"
Some people still have a problem calling themselves Africans. We have been brainwashed to think everything African is negative. Thank God more and more people are becoming conscious. Hats off the Keane Tire born in Trinidad and Tobago (Carribbean).
It's even worse now. We have certain groups here who have captured the minds of some of our people. Turning them against Afrika. Calling Afrikans Hamites. Trying to make a distinction between themselves and Afrikans. Even calling themselves the real native Americans. It's the biggest mess, but I never fell for it. I'm proud to call myself an Afrikan.
Ase most of our people are misguided and they see Africans and Africa is all poor jungle and famine because they have been oppressed and degraded. I went to 🇬🇭for the first time forty one years ago, I didn’t see no jungle, famine etc I knew these racists were using their mythology. Baba Kwame Ture our great Pan African warrior leader mentor and hero is totally right.
Africa is a beautiful continent but we can be from MANY countries in Africa. My country is America but I am a black woman. Yea my ancestors came from Africa but that was centuries ago
11.11.2023 This is not a normal behavior, that we will be attacking each other. My people are not stupid. We were made stupid, brainwashed, and twisted against our own good , to hate ourselves and anything/anyone that looks like us. Patterns of thought are taught. Now, I live in Europe. It is easier for me to think and analyze. Whiteman has ambushed the progress and prosperity of Africans and Africa. *"HISTORY TEACHES US REPEATEDLY THAT WE DIDN'T LEARN FROM IT." WARIE PORBENI RADIOZEATERCLUB*
This blessed day the Creator in his supreme mercy has given us to enjoy Nov.13, 2022. Climax change is getting worse as the WS dominant men are becoming extinct I understand. They don't care because they won't be around to be exposed to global warnings atrocities. Land will become scarce and there will proberly be a fight for land again like supposedly the " Gold Rush" also times of colonization.. After all this planet was always meant to be the birthright of the original man.....
KWAME TOURE IS ONE OF THE GREATESS VOICES FOR AFRIKAN UNITY ORGANIZATION AND LIBERATION!!!KWAME TOURE WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN!!! A REVOLUTIONARY FROM THE CADDLE TO THE GRAVE!!! KWAME TOURE!! READY FOR REVOLUTION!!! PAN-AFRIKANISM IS THE ONLY SOLUTION!! 🖤
Imagine these minds couldve all worked in unison.. the pragmatist, the objectivist the militant revolutionary african diasporan &the nurturing matriarch, we need them ALL.. they all have a part to play
A process takes time, people need time to change up, to reset themselves, to understand the real surroundings of their special situation, the process already started... @lion x warrior
“America is a combination of African and European cultures.” From jazz to rock n roll to science to professional sports, come on!! Time for America to have this breathed, if not pounded, into their brains. Fascinating discussion. Thanks for posting this.
america was created by aryans. slaves were forced here and jews ran most of the slave-trade(83% at height of american slavery)...there's only ONE culture here. ARYAn culture. the rest are either leeches, immigrants of another race than ARYAn, or ex-slaves/ancestors of ex-slaves. THEND. if you're not Aryan, you're not American. PERIOD. Even Asians are welcomed though. At least they have culture close to Aryans. the rest can FUCK OFF. and FUCK spook lee and obama and ali the separatist, and other crackheaded scrubs trying to be us.
@AfroMarxist Thank you for this invaluable content! In this day and age content like this can never disappoint an aspiring young African in educating himself on life about being African and the world around us! Forever grateful! Thank you and Allah bless
11.11.2023 This is not a normal behavior, that we will be attacking each other. My people are not stupid. We were made stupid, brainwashed, and twisted against our own good , to hate ourselves and anything/anyone that looks like us. Patterns of thought are taught. Now, I live in Europe. It is easier for me to think and analyze. Whiteman has ambushed the progress and prosperity of Africans and Africa. *"HISTORY TEACHES US REPEATEDLY THAT WE DIDN'T LEARN FROM IT." WARIE PORBENI RADIOZEATERCLUB*
You just find all the most crucial, important, valuable interviews/speech's all in one channel. You my friend AfroMarxist, Have my respect and gratitude. Thank you.
I believe they all are right, we need all these different views and they don't have to agree. Because this is who we are. Different types of people. We all are not the same and don't think the same. That's what makes us so beautiful.
Like my country’s first president Sekou Toure said: we chose freedom in poverty then rich 🤑in slavery. I don’t agreed with you. The point and the purpose of this kind of meeting is to find a better solution for billions of people both in Africa and America. So materialism or American capitalism hasn’t done anything good for the African-American because those capitalism makes everyone for themselves therefore separate us from one another. And this video is the perfect example of that
This was during the time When Jesse Jackson debated the term African-American, in Congress. Kwame ture was right we are Africans born in America or as he sometimes says Africans living in America. Who are citizens according to the Constitution. And our contribution of fighting and shedding our blood in the civil war to keep the union together.
But Jesse Jackson should have been quiet. I’m not an African American. I didn’t come from the continent to here. I was born here my blood is here. I’m fully American as apple pie. No offense to the Africans but when people leave Africa they can trace their home countries I can not.
I appreciate the fact that most Blacks in the USA have roots in Africa. However, I also appreciate the blood, sweat, and tears from the Black hands that built this country. While I embrace my African heritage, I must also embrace my Black American heritage as well.
Salvatore Lanzieri that’s why white folks should not speak in black spaces when they don’t know wtf they’re responding to. And I’m not explaining it gtfo
This video showcases that African Americans are NOT a monolith... The only real debate is how these perspectives can be galvanized for our collective benefit so that the next generation can choose their path without burden. We need the resources and the culture, not one or the other.
I've seen this conversation a few times. The interesting observation that allows you to see the slant of each commentator is to follow the money. You can see that Allegiance is either to the people or the funding. The editor is on the Wall Street Journal plantation, so he strives for validation from his corporate masters. The capitalist bottling company owner strives to be accepted as equal in the elitist circle. The first two refute the fact they are "viewed as less than." Brother Toure and Sister Edelin represent the struggle to free us in bondage by the masters and elites. As Baba Dick Gregory would say "I don't need yo validation! I am validated by the CREATOR of all by knowing where I come FROM." Emperialism and Capitalism needs peasants to dominate. Once we realize that society is conditioned to ignore the reality that only 2% of the globe are not viewed as expendable, then will Brother Kwame's perspective be appreciated 😉.
We need to first nail down what we choose to be. Many of us are ashamed of our heritage and don't want anything to do with that culture and history. Their minds have been reformed and deformed. Kwame and all the others espousing black power became a radical needle in the eyes of blacks that wanted in on the wealth and power brokering which meant adopting European ideology and practices. It's the reason the black community became what it became today. They abandoned the community and African values. That young brother (Leon Winters) was so deceived as he is willing to adopt a culture that basically murdered senselessly millions of natives. Putting on the blinders is and was the problem. Crack prevented Africans in America from reaching the next phase Ramon Edelin speaks of. Now with all the murders we get we were never going to be included unless we betrayed ourselves and our people.
Well said! And those ones are the traitors! They never listened to the voices of reason! Fast track to 2023, the reality remains the same! In fact, African Americans are worst off today! They never listen and learn
Disapointing the eldest in the group seem to be the most lost and will not teach young folks of culture and heritage. His perpective is based on capiyalism but fail to acknowledge the culture. Kwame and Ms. Louise makes valide points.
Did you notice that the old guy worked for the Coca-Cola Company? That’s a black Capitalist. Why would he see Africa as anything but an agrarian society.
Kwame is basically saying that we will never truly be free parroting the behavior of the oppressor... I agree. The other two gentlemen are saying that our ancestors helped shore up the oppressor's system with their blood, sweat & tears & why shouldn't we be reaping the benefits of what our ppl built, then, & what we've continued to build in contemporary society. Basically, why can't we have OUR piece of the American pie? I agree with that, to an extent, because Kwame is saying that that pie should be thrown away. We shouldn't want any parts of that pie. That pie is tainted. That pie is evil... 🤷🏾♀️ I don't disagree with that. But maybe it's possible to weaponize the system against ITSELF. That's where ppl like Llewellyn would come in. *sigh* 😒 Idk... I feel like everyone wants the same thing, in their heart of hearts. We need all hands on deck for true revolution. I believe ppl with every pov could contribute.
the answer is and always is go back to Africa and build up what you want or fight for real in America for what you want or live with the incrementalism that is black American progress. the slowest in human history
Perhaps you don’t get the picture 😂😂😂 the powers that be never ever intended for you to have any piece of that pie! Stop lying to yourselves!! You constantly keep lying to yourselves!! You are not American so says the system! Designed to never ever give you any piece of the pie!
This sister was so right names are so important and we must identify with our home which is mama Africa. Like brother Toure said the oppressor changed the name. We are Africans in America.
Před 4 lety
Queen Ebony You can always go and live in Africa. Then there is no confusion
Black is a diametric opposing position in relation to white. In a struggle if your enemy screams white power you counter by yelling black power. One of the problems is this, at one point in our history in America we were actively engaged in the war against our enemies. But somewhere that struggle was bought off with the currency of the illusion of inclusion. So today our enemy is still at war with us but too many of us have simply resigned ourselves to becoming their accomplices, knowingly or not,, in our destruction.
R.I.P. Macheao Shabaka,my brother in the struggle and comrade of Kwame....He was a major organizer of the All African People Revolutionary Party....I truly miss both of them Brothers.
The "mistake" is allowing the editor, who then says he does not represent the people paying him, lol, the last word. But Kwame took care of that, "Africans." I love him.
RIP Brother Leon, Brother Ture, Brother Llewellyn. Peace, love, and life to Sister Edelin and Sister Charlayne. If you came here in particular to hear Brother Ture speak and left with only admiration for his talking points, then you've missed a wonderful debate based on honest talking points and perspective. Given by several brilliant minds, including the people who spoke before the panel began. *THESE ARE MY ELDERS*
Africa is a continent yes, it is the land of a special, no matter where we are, we are who we are, indigenous to mother earth. , so no matter what country in Africa our ancestors come from, we are still African. period.
Great panel of different viewpoints and political philosophies showcased here. I wish today’s discourse was this enlightening on nuanced issues impacting the black community .Present day commentary is striped down to social media hot takes and clap back tweets aiming to go viral or garner followers.
Ramona... I remember being given a vhs recording of this from an older techie American cousin on his visit to my home in London...me...young black man...early days of university... trying to ignore the subtle racism I'd encountered through life as well as the obvious ... he made me proud 2 be black and elevated my consciousness... and Romona became a hero 2me as the world of Stokeley..dr ben... Van Settima...Browder...Sebi... and many others opened my eyes to realities I could not see b4... today as my eldest is top of his PHD class ..and the youngest prepares for his own journey to higher ed...I remain thankful...I could not be the father I am without the input from so many.... 🙏🏼
Kwame fan for life. I wasn't familiar with Ms. Edelin, but she's quite remarkable as well. Although we may not agree with the other panelists in large part, everyone on this panel has something to contribute and all in a dignified manner This is the way debates should be conducted.
On February,02,1835 Lord Macaulay stated: I have travelled across the length and breadth of Africa and I’ve not seen one person who is a beggar, or a thief such wealth I’ve seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such caliber, that I don’t think we will ever conquer them, unless we break the very backbone of them, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage and therefore I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture with our foreign and English systems for them to lose their self esteem, their culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation.
This statement was not about Africa it was about India. We want to get our history straight. Here is a link to the original infamous declaration. www.thefridaytimes.com/the-infamous-macaulay-speech-that-never-was/
Everyone here is right up to a point. be... Its about combining each idea the history, culture, present, and what could and should.#humanliberation #wearerising
Brother Nkwame Toure. It's the perfect example of a pan Africanist unapologetically African. I love this ancestor.
Me too
Me too
He died in Africa a country called conakry Guinea
Me too love all my African people
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Met him once. He was a racist ass..le. Read my story on Chief’s Story Page. Called Blackness.
*"Until Africa is free we won't be free."*
----Kwame Ture
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Been free for at,east seventy years far as I could remember. What happened? Still has slavery of fellow blacks
@@chieftain5391 France Still milking their ex colonies, they are not free, and dont have slavery in africa
@@marcioluis3829 last year there was a meeting of the OAS held to outlaw slavery in Africa!
@@chieftain5391 just libya had slavery , the other 53 countries dont have.
RIP Kwame Ture. You are a giant in history.
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he's a giant turd.
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"People want things." The WSJ just doing what the WSJ has always done: whittle humanity down to consumerism.
I know right, the things he says makes me cringe
I feel bad for him honestly. He is ignoring a part of his soul.
As if socialism dosnt produce things lmaoo, as if the soviets didn’t make cars. Such ludicrous logic that they just let slip in and than refused allow a response for
@@gryphonarthur-kiss5006 stfu anglo
People need, for example, food, which is just ONE of those "things" Leon was talking about. We are humans who cannot live on ideals alone.
The guy thought his ancestors fell out the sky onto Jamaica and then to America until Kwame told him that they were from Africa.
You could say the same thing about Africa. Or you think god only dropped people off in Africa ? You believe in evolution and his-story ?
My parents are from Jamaica, and he's exactly right.. The slave ship just had a different stop. Still Africans
No disrespect to any of those guests on the panel, however Kwame is a HEAVY WEIGHT. Profound, thinker and great historian of our people. Guy didn't even take a sip of water, he's a savage.
actually he was quoting great marxist thinkers too
No savageness in the spiritual walk🙏🏾 no backwardness. It's not a good ingredient to the recipe of consciousness. We must unlearn,-,+ and relearn reset the ÷ mindset
Exactly King, the weak minded changes narratives to fit their views and judgments, it's all folly.
Hell yeah my brother . BLACK POWER
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“Until Africa is free we won’t be free ! “
~~ Quamie Taure !!
True intelligence!!
Kwame
Ture*
The Best line: You fought on a slave ship to, did you call yourself "A Water" lol! NKwame Toure is a great speaker.
I bust out laughing when he said that. Kwame was too brilliant for these simpletons
11.11.2023
This is not a normal behavior, that we will be attacking each other. My people are not stupid. We were made stupid, brainwashed, and twisted against our own good , to hate ourselves and anything/anyone that looks like us. Patterns of thought are taught.
Now, I live in Europe. It is easier for me to think and analyze. Whiteman has ambushed the progress and prosperity of Africans and Africa.
*"HISTORY TEACHES US REPEATEDLY THAT WE DIDN'T LEARN FROM IT." WARIE PORBENI RADIOZEATERCLUB*
Ramona Edelin handled this topic with ease, she understood the deeper meaning behind the name change, conscious behavior and what is needed to realize transformation in our people. She reminds me a lot of Dr. Amos Wilson. Kwame Ture cut through the other two like a hot knife and stood as a model of what Ramona Edelin was conveying ✊🏾
Expertly stated.
Dr Amos Wilson alongside Malcolm X was one of the heaviest intellectual minds we have ever produced. I dear say that the world has ever produced
Kwame Ture and I originate from the same island. He is my brother and my hero. I totally agree with your comment.
We are Afrikans in the disaspora
Precisely 👌🏿
Who's watching this in May and June of 2020?....coming out of lockdown and out in the streets and back in curfew... George Floyd will never be forgotten...
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Yaaaasss Uncle Kwame!.."until Africa is free, we won't be free" dropping the mic and walking away..!
send all of you back TO africa, and both will be free. DROPS RUGERp90 and they RUN away..!
“We fought on the slave ships. Did you call yourself a water?”
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lmao
😂😂😂😂😂 and that statement is what brought me looking for the full interview after seeing it on TikTok
🤣🤣💯💪🏾 Kwame
@@InTheEndOnlykindnessMatters me too.😂
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Imagine if political debates were as informed, respectful and articulate as this.
Once upon a time...
This conversation dialogue is so very relevant for today.
Which is disconcerting because we should have progressed through this dialogue onto something else. Unfortunately it means we have not made progress.
oh its gonna get worse for your people. i've heard things about what the jewboys are trying to do with you negros. oh yes.
you're lucky this aryan only wants you out of my country. jewboys want you out of commission
The guy didn't realise Kwame Toure was from Trinidad lol
Yes but black America made him. He was 9 when he left trinidad
@lion x warrior black Americans are the descendents of those Africans that were enslave in the u.s
Just like black Trinidad or Jamaica are the descendents of those Africans that were enslave in those places.
@lion x warrior it's obvious from what I wrote , by black America I meant descendents of slavery in u.s.
Now , I told u what I meant ,now I'm interested in knowing ur point.
@lion x warrior independent of my comments , Black America would mean all black people leaving in America,regardless of origin.
@@sankaragarvey5862 He made himself. By your logic Nicki Minaj is no longer Trinidadian as well since she came from Trinidad at 5 years old.
I like Kwame at the end lol
"Africans"
His name is from Ghana. He knows his roots
It’s great 😂
Kwame Ture is my man.
Kwame Ture is so inspiration.
Baba Kwame is totally right that we are Africans no matter where we are globally.
Am an African without fear nor favour.
Baba Kwame Ture is so inspiring as well as made us feel so proud to be Africans.
These two stooges are so worthless while our queen is self conscious just like Kwame Ture.
i admire touré’s readiness to shut down the american-dream-ist, capitalist bs each time
Unapologetic king (kwame Toure)👑💪🏽
Rest in peace brother ✊🏿🇹🇹
Nkwame Toure said it right when Africa is free, African Americans will be free.
I'll add to that Africans in the Caribbean in fact, Africans all over the world.
he use to say until Africa is free no african will be in the world
"Those like WEB Dubois, who believe the race problem will be solved through higher education, will work from now until eternity and never see the problem solved. The Black man will never be respected, until AFRICA is redeemed!!" - Hon. Marcus Garvey
@Catherine Alexis indeed, but I think due to the origins of the land. Meaning when things may go wrong in the West, they have somewhere to go to. It is a bit different because Afro Caribbeans are the majority, so they technically have "land." However, I feel as though they should feel like they have a home where they initially came from. The way Europe continues to suck from Africa is intentional, its to keep it on its knees so its children in the continent and out don't feel safe, they don't feel connected and they don't feel like they can run home. But I definitely agree with you! It's more of just having a base. The foundation. But again, trust me I agree as well as Afro Latinos etc etc! Big up🥰
Ramona and Kwame ate them up lmaoo
"... we are the only ethnic group in American that must shed our blood to make reform, to get the vote we must shed our blood, to get our children to school we must shed our blood, to get on a bus and sit where we want we must shed our blood, to even get in a filthy 5 and 10 cent store we must shed our blood ..."
I respect Mr. Llewellyn but brothers like Kwame are the soul of our people.
We are AFRIKAN people stolen from Afrika, Brother Kwame Toure was one of the truest Afrikan freedom fighters and led Afrikan people towards Pan-Afrikanism, The total Organization and liberation of Afrikan people worldwide,, we must continue to fight for Afrika' and the liberation of Afrikan minds and people Tuko Pamoja! And rest in power"Brother Kwame" We the people love you"🦁
Identity is a foundational question that Africans must get correct because if not one will seek to make contributions to their enemy instead of liberation!
Amen
💯 Facts!
Thank you! Know your real identity, stick with it and be loyal to it! Black peoples all over the world struggle with this! The struggle is real on both sides! Those of us that were left behind and those that were taken captives! We all have been brainwashed to believe there’s nothing good about us! But thanks be to God, that viel of lies is been lifted off of our eyes!!
"People want things"...its gon be really sad when ppl look up from their things and see they lost their freedom
powerful
People will give up freedoms for "things".
Wow we Africans want things, what about our autonomy and our self determination, our culture, our traditions, our history, our values?
Moreover we didnt have Capitalsm historically but people still were alloacted lands, and we built our huts and herded our livestock and we had things as stated above.
Oh but wait those dont count as things
Thank you
@@elainerekopantswe2933thank you
We can choose to name ourselves, exercising our Kujichagulia/Self-determination, anything we want, including African, African American, African Caribbean, African Canadian as African Jamaican reggae singer Peter Tosh sang "Don't care where you come from, as long as you're a Black man, you're an African."
kwame ture is so inspirational
This is the year I met Kwame Ture in Berkeley, California. Knew him for 8 years.
One thing I notice about Kwame, he could fire the strength his points home according to the persons he's addressing. Me, I fire for effect with every comment while in debate, for complete obliteration.
Rest in Power, brother.
as a white man I wonder how can I be a good ally. I understand the message of self reliance from Malcom X, and I also understand the message of integration. if I am told that being white makes me an enemy, I am only pushed away
@@roc7880 The best way sincere whites can help is work to end the racism in the white community, and not join black organizations. So, you can help us , but you can't join us. There can be no black-white unity until there is black unity. Until that is understood nothing changes.
@@NkrumahTure I doubt there will be ever be a white unity, not sure about black unity. and I cannot wait until that unity happens to do something.
@@roc7880 That's not what I said. Just go work to end racism in your community, and you'll be doing your part.
@@NkrumahTure I'll try.
Kwame Ture! Rest in Peace and Honor.
❤🧡🖤💚
KWAME!!! 🔥🔥🔥
11.11.2023
This is not a normal behavior, that we will be attacking each other. My people are not stupid. We were made stupid, brainwashed, and twisted against our own good , to hate ourselves and anything/anyone that looks like us. Patterns of thought are taught.
Now, I live in Europe. It is easier for me to think and analyze. Whiteman has ambushed the progress and prosperity of Africans and Africa.
*"HISTORY TEACHES US REPEATEDLY THAT WE DIDN'T LEARN FROM IT." WARIE PORBENI RADIOZEATERCLUB*
Still a relevant conversation, even though we crossed the line of the 21st century without answering the question.
Facts and still divided
Ofc!! Because we never fixed anything. Because when you have people like Ramona and Kwame, you have these other two dumbdumbs that hold us back and WE STILL HAVE THEM. I fear that we ain't going any damn where. 🙆🏽♀️ so frustrating.
Yes 😮
YEEEESSS Ramon Edelin: "Its a myth that individuals move forward and certainly we can't accept that 2 or 3 of our groups emerging year after year while the vast masses of us continue to go down, we have a responsibility"
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Some people still have a problem calling themselves Africans. We have been brainwashed to think everything African is negative. Thank God more and more people are becoming conscious. Hats off the Keane Tire born in Trinidad and Tobago (Carribbean).
It's even worse now. We have certain groups here who have captured the minds of some of our people. Turning them against Afrika. Calling Afrikans Hamites. Trying to make a distinction between themselves and Afrikans. Even calling themselves the real native Americans. It's the biggest mess, but I never fell for it. I'm proud to call myself an Afrikan.
@@RighteousFiyah yh
Ase most of our people are misguided and they see Africans and Africa is all poor jungle and famine because they have been oppressed and degraded.
I went to 🇬🇭for the first time forty one years ago, I didn’t see no jungle, famine etc I knew these racists were using their mythology.
Baba Kwame Ture our great Pan African warrior leader mentor and hero is totally right.
Whats in a name?
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Africa is a beautiful continent but we can be from MANY countries in Africa. My country is America but I am a black woman. Yea my ancestors came from Africa but that was centuries ago
Everyone speaks so well . Well educated and studied..
Kwame ture.........eternal love is what I have for this unapologetic black hero ❤❤❤❤
You mean African hero. We are not black. We are Africans.
So relevant! I wish I could’ve met Brother Kwame Toure😔
11.11.2023
This is not a normal behavior, that we will be attacking each other. My people are not stupid. We were made stupid, brainwashed, and twisted against our own good , to hate ourselves and anything/anyone that looks like us. Patterns of thought are taught.
Now, I live in Europe. It is easier for me to think and analyze. Whiteman has ambushed the progress and prosperity of Africans and Africa.
*"HISTORY TEACHES US REPEATEDLY THAT WE DIDN'T LEARN FROM IT." WARIE PORBENI RADIOZEATERCLUB*
If y'all had listened to Kwame, we would be on top of this global warming issue as well. Down with capitalism, down with the pigs
This blessed day the Creator in his supreme mercy has given us to enjoy Nov.13, 2022.
Climax change is getting worse as the WS dominant men are becoming extinct I understand.
They don't care because they won't be around to be exposed to global warnings atrocities.
Land will become scarce and there will proberly be a fight for land again like supposedly the " Gold Rush" also times of colonization..
After all this planet was always meant to be the birthright of the original man.....
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Y’all commis are hilarious
Y’all Americans are thick as $hit. Now that’s hilarious 🤣
BDS
"people want things"
the state of capitalist discourse in 1989
Communism is when no things
"there are too many people who want cars, the traffic jams are horrendous" I think we found the cause of the problem 😂
All praises due to Ancestor Kwame
KWAME TOURE IS ONE OF THE GREATESS VOICES FOR AFRIKAN UNITY ORGANIZATION AND LIBERATION!!!KWAME TOURE WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN!!! A REVOLUTIONARY FROM THE CADDLE TO THE GRAVE!!! KWAME TOURE!! READY FOR REVOLUTION!!! PAN-AFRIKANISM IS THE ONLY SOLUTION!! 🖤
Well said Sir Kwame Toure...
Imagine these minds couldve all worked in unison.. the pragmatist, the objectivist the militant revolutionary african diasporan &the nurturing matriarch, we need them ALL.. they all have a part to play
Most accurate and felt comment
@@SS5SS5 👊🏾🕶️
lol my man said capitalism is consistent with Africa. If only he knew what the situation would be 30 years later...
Hell 30 years ago it was just as bad.
Yes, Africa is thriving. Let's keep the colonizers and racists out of that glorious process.
A process takes time, people need time to change up, to reset themselves, to understand the real surroundings of their special situation, the process already started... @lion x warrior
Just went to Google him to see if his stance has remained the same however he too has since passed.
And there are still delusional ones arguing today. This time we leave them behind
To take a word or a term with a negative meaning and change it to a positive is a Mighty big thing:
"I'm Black and I'm Proud!'
“America is a combination of African and European cultures.” From jazz to rock n roll to science to professional sports, come on!! Time for America to have this breathed, if not pounded, into their brains. Fascinating discussion. Thanks for posting this.
america was created by aryans. slaves were forced here and jews ran most of the slave-trade(83% at height of american slavery)...there's only ONE culture here. ARYAn culture. the rest are either leeches, immigrants of another race than ARYAn, or ex-slaves/ancestors of ex-slaves. THEND. if you're not Aryan, you're not American. PERIOD. Even Asians are welcomed though. At least they have culture close to Aryans. the rest can FUCK OFF. and FUCK spook lee and obama and ali the separatist, and other crackheaded scrubs trying to be us.
Kwame Ture!!!
@AfroMarxist Thank you for this invaluable content! In this day and age content like this can never disappoint an aspiring young African in educating himself on life about being African and the world around us! Forever grateful! Thank you and Allah bless
Great conversation!! All of them made valid points!!
11.11.2023
This is not a normal behavior, that we will be attacking each other. My people are not stupid. We were made stupid, brainwashed, and twisted against our own good , to hate ourselves and anything/anyone that looks like us. Patterns of thought are taught.
Now, I live in Europe. It is easier for me to think and analyze. Whiteman has ambushed the progress and prosperity of Africans and Africa.
*"HISTORY TEACHES US REPEATEDLY THAT WE DIDN'T LEARN FROM IT." WARIE PORBENI RADIOZEATERCLUB*
"When we were fighting on slave ships, did you call yourselves water?" 😂😂😂 GOT EM
Kwame simply tearing these status quo defenses apart
You just find all the most crucial, important, valuable interviews/speech's all in one channel. You my friend AfroMarxist, Have my respect and gratitude. Thank you.
I believe they all are right, we need all these different views and they don't have to agree. Because this is who we are. Different types of people. We all are not the same and don't think the same. That's what makes us so beautiful.
Like my country’s first president Sekou Toure said: we chose freedom in poverty then rich 🤑in slavery. I don’t agreed with you. The point and the purpose of this kind of meeting is to find a better solution for billions of people both in Africa and America. So materialism or American capitalism hasn’t done anything good for the African-American because those capitalism makes everyone for themselves therefore separate us from one another. And this video is the perfect example of that
Keep dreaming
I love this CZcams channel
This was during the time When Jesse Jackson debated the term African-American, in Congress. Kwame ture was right we are Africans born in America or as he sometimes says Africans living in America. Who are citizens according to the Constitution. And our contribution of fighting and shedding our blood in the civil war to keep the union together.
Definitely Africans wherever we are, are Africans full stop.
But Jesse Jackson should have been quiet. I’m not an African American. I didn’t come from the continent to here. I was born here my blood is here. I’m fully American as apple pie. No offense to the Africans but when people leave Africa they can trace their home countries I can not.
I appreciate the fact that most Blacks in the USA have roots in Africa. However, I also appreciate the blood, sweat, and tears from the Black hands that built this country. While I embrace my African heritage, I must also embrace my Black American heritage as well.
We had two negropeans and two Africans on the panel.
even the young negropeans respected and bowed for kwame ture at the end hahha
Afrikan overall nations
😂💯
Salvatore Lanzieri that’s why white folks should not speak in black spaces when they don’t know wtf they’re responding to. And I’m not explaining it gtfo
@Salvatore Lanzieri EXACTLY, to be Black means you are mixed, you are of the diaspora.... otherwise, you'd just be an African!
This video showcases that African Americans are NOT a monolith... The only real debate is how these perspectives can be galvanized for our collective benefit so that the next generation can choose their path without burden. We need the resources and the culture, not one or the other.
I've seen this conversation a few times. The interesting observation that allows you to see the slant of each commentator is to follow the money. You can see that Allegiance is either to the people or the funding. The editor is on the Wall Street Journal plantation, so he strives for validation from his corporate masters. The capitalist bottling company owner strives to be accepted as equal in the elitist circle. The first two refute the fact they are "viewed as less than." Brother Toure and Sister Edelin represent the struggle to free us in bondage by the masters and elites. As Baba Dick Gregory would say "I don't need yo validation! I am validated by the CREATOR of all by knowing where I come FROM." Emperialism and Capitalism needs peasants to dominate. Once we realize that society is conditioned to ignore the reality that only 2% of the globe are not viewed as expendable, then will Brother Kwame's perspective be appreciated 😉.
I enjoyed listening to all of the guests on this panel. You can have intelligent people who love their community who have differing opinions.
We need to first nail down what we choose to be. Many of us are ashamed of our heritage and don't want anything to do with that culture and history. Their minds have been reformed and deformed. Kwame and all the others espousing black power became a radical needle in the eyes of blacks that wanted in on the wealth and power brokering which meant adopting European ideology and practices. It's the reason the black community became what it became today. They abandoned the community and African values. That young brother (Leon Winters) was so deceived as he is willing to adopt a culture that basically murdered senselessly millions of natives. Putting on the blinders is and was the problem. Crack prevented Africans in America from reaching the next phase Ramon Edelin speaks of. Now with all the murders we get we were never going to be included unless we betrayed ourselves and our people.
I agree
Well said! And those ones are the traitors! They never listened to the voices of reason! Fast track to 2023, the reality remains the same! In fact, African Americans are worst off today! They never listen and learn
He should have been alive to see George Floyd in 2021
Kwame ture was the guy
We are CITIZENS of AFRIKA ❤️
Black; Wheatish; Brown; Whitish WE Are Proudly Afrikan ✊🏿✊🏼✊🏽✊🏾💪🏼💪🏿💪🏾💪🏽❤️❤️❤️
This is soooo enjoyable!!!!!! 🇧🇮
Nkwame understood that class abolition would resolve racism. The child with the red tie, watching this today would cry himself in disgrace.
Is not nkwame is kwame
Disapointing the eldest in the group seem to be the most lost and will not teach young folks of culture and heritage. His perpective is based on capiyalism but fail to acknowledge the culture. Kwame and Ms. Louise makes valide points.
@Fat Ted 2 sides of the same coin,
Older folks sadly got no energy left in them to fight. They just sit back, conform and go with the flow.
Did you notice that the old guy worked for the Coca-Cola Company? That’s a black Capitalist. Why would he see Africa as anything but an agrarian society.
@@yawdjin1737 at time he was making millions so his perspective will automatically differ from the ones who are culturally competent.
Ikr
24:56 I love that Kwame got the last word!
kwame Ture goodness me what a man
Kwame is basically saying that we will never truly be free parroting the behavior of the oppressor... I agree. The other two gentlemen are saying that our ancestors helped shore up the oppressor's system with their blood, sweat & tears & why shouldn't we be reaping the benefits of what our ppl built, then, & what we've continued to build in contemporary society. Basically, why can't we have OUR piece of the American pie? I agree with that, to an extent, because Kwame is saying that that pie should be thrown away. We shouldn't want any parts of that pie. That pie is tainted. That pie is evil... 🤷🏾♀️ I don't disagree with that.
But maybe it's possible to weaponize the system against ITSELF. That's where ppl like Llewellyn would come in. *sigh* 😒 Idk... I feel like everyone wants the same thing, in their heart of hearts. We need all hands on deck for true revolution. I believe ppl with every pov could contribute.
The black capitalist will never bite the hand that feeds them.
the answer is and always is go back to Africa and build up what you want or fight for real in America for what you want or live with the incrementalism that is black American progress. the slowest in human history
Perhaps you don’t get the picture 😂😂😂 the powers that be never ever intended for you to have any piece of that pie! Stop lying to yourselves!! You constantly keep lying to yourselves!! You are not American so says the system! Designed to never ever give you any piece of the pie!
I like how the host did not interrupt Kwame as he explained to the African guy from Jamaica that Jamaicans came from Africa on a slave ship.
😂😂😂😂😂
This sister was so right names are so important and we must identify with our home which is mama Africa. Like brother Toure said the oppressor changed the name. We are Africans in America.
Queen Ebony
You can always go and live in Africa. Then there is no confusion
Thank you
What is black?, I am an African....end of discussion
I’m a us citizen. But I love my black culture.
Joe C us doesn’t love your culture tho. Might as well consider yourself African
terms like "white" and "black" were invented to confuse us. it's always been africa! europe and africa...
Black is a diametric opposing position in relation to white. In a struggle if your enemy screams white power you counter by yelling black power. One of the problems is this, at one point in our history in America we were actively engaged in the war against our enemies. But somewhere that struggle was bought off with the currency of the illusion of inclusion. So today our enemy is still at war with us but too many of us have simply resigned ourselves to becoming their accomplices, knowingly or not,, in our destruction.
@@joec9564 How are you a U.S. citizen? What makes you think the founders of the U.S. accept you as such?
everyone was just saying some irrelevant liberal jargon and then kwame ture comes in with the truth like a bomb
😂😂😂😂😂
Africa is a much more stable and prosperous continent in 2021 than in 1989...
Things are very different today...
Appreciating this content. New subby!
Long Live the Noble Spirit of Kwame Ture.
Build the All Afrikan People's REVOLUTIONARY Party.
R.I.P. Macheao Shabaka,my brother in the struggle and comrade of Kwame....He was a major organizer of the All African People Revolutionary Party....I truly miss both of them Brothers.
The "mistake" is allowing the editor, who then says he does not represent the people paying him, lol, the last word. But Kwame took care of that, "Africans." I love him.
At the end of the day... We will have our ancestors on Blast! BIGG UPS TO OUR ANCESTORS. A'se
RIP Brother Leon, Brother Ture, Brother Llewellyn.
Peace, love, and life to Sister Edelin and Sister Charlayne.
If you came here in particular to hear Brother Ture speak and left with only admiration for his talking points, then you've missed a wonderful debate based on honest talking points and perspective. Given by several brilliant minds, including the people who spoke before the panel began.
*THESE ARE MY ELDERS*
23:14 lol, “Do you call yourself a water?”
All praises Due to Ancestor kwame toure!!!
Stokely Carmichael kwame ture fell in love with him at 1 point when I 1st learned of him 💙🌍👑 still live
Why are these talking points still so relevant in 2021 🤦🏾♂️
Listen 😅
African💕or African in America
These conversations were published way too soon... These thoughts were used against us. It is so CLEAR.
Much Appreciation
Ps Peace to Melanin
I learned something new today " the free African society"
Wooii I hear the Trini!!! It’s itching to get out😂 Gwan Kwame!!
🇹🇹 Afro Trinbagonian
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Love Stokely Carmichael aka AFRICAN ❤
23:10-23:26 was EVERYTHING!!! Yes, and that sums it up!
"AFRICANS" Lol!!!!!! Priceless!
Africa is a continent yes, it is the land of a special, no matter where we are, we are who we are, indigenous to mother earth. , so no matter what country in Africa our ancestors come from, we are still African. period.
Beautiful way of reasoning. Blessed love empress
Great panel of different viewpoints and political philosophies showcased here. I wish today’s discourse was this enlightening on nuanced issues impacting the black community .Present day commentary is striped down to social media hot takes and clap back tweets aiming to go viral or garner followers.
So interesting. I learned something new.
Ramona... I remember being given a vhs recording of this from an older techie American cousin on his visit to my home in London...me...young black man...early days of university... trying to ignore the subtle racism I'd encountered through life as well as the obvious ... he made me proud 2 be black and elevated my consciousness... and Romona became a hero 2me as the world of Stokeley..dr ben... Van Settima...Browder...Sebi... and many others opened my eyes to realities I could not see b4... today as my eldest is top of his PHD class ..and the youngest prepares for his own journey to higher ed...I remain thankful...I could not be the father I am without the input from so many.... 🙏🏼
Kwame fan for life. I wasn't familiar with Ms. Edelin, but she's quite remarkable as well. Although we may not agree with the other panelists in large part, everyone on this panel has something to contribute and all in a dignified manner This is the way debates should be conducted.
On February,02,1835 Lord Macaulay stated: I have travelled across the length and breadth of Africa and I’ve not seen one person who is a beggar, or a thief such wealth I’ve seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such caliber, that I don’t think we will ever conquer them, unless we break the very backbone of them, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage and therefore I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture with our foreign and English systems for them to lose their self esteem, their culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation.
This statement was not about Africa it was about India. We want to get our history straight. Here is a link to the original infamous declaration.
www.thefridaytimes.com/the-infamous-macaulay-speech-that-never-was/
Vintage Souffle, LLC: he was talking about Africa, which part in the world have all the natural resources (minerals) like Africa?
He was talking about India lol what the hades are you trying to pull
Vintage Souffle, LLC did you read the article you dropped because it’s states that it’s a hoax in the same article
Thank you
This is a great video with an intelligent panel.
the man said, "I'm from the island of jamaica"....Damn for a second I was thinking he was sort of smart.
Yep, me too, but he fell apart at the end. What a shame that this indoctrination of capitalism and white supremacy has crippled so many people.
that silly man is a billionaire,he owns massive share in cocacola i love him but he sound confused here
multi millionaire sorry
Why don’t we give our native ancestors respect . I’m not just African , I’m a mixture of Taino , #latinamericadiaspora
@@yingyang1622 the Average Black american is about 2% native and 75% African. 75 outweighs 2.
Everyone here is right up to a point. be... Its about combining each idea the history, culture, present, and what could and should.#humanliberation #wearerising
I Would Like to see more Real History
Kwame ture was the only truthful person there even the presenter knew it