Loki Finale Review
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- čas přidán 9. 11. 2023
- John and Kris discuss and review the finale for the Disney Plus series focused on fan favorite Marvel Cinematic Universe anti-hero Loki played by Tom Hiddleston.
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Holy... WHAT?! Loki's finale stuck the landing *WAY* better than any of the other MCU shows. That ending was astonishingly good.
I agree
Touche
I think he let some minor details cloud his judgment. As entitled to his own opinion as he is
That's absolutely true. Blows Wandavision out the water.
@@KamiKoroshi_ Litterally cuz I bet u we hear bout Loki sooner then we see white vision he’s reaching hells far💀🤣
Kris gets it... as usual. Especially with Tom Hiddleston being one of the writer, it was pure theatre. Not only did his character grow, so did his powers, not in areas of combat or mischief, but on a metaphysical level. And in the end, his selfless sacrifice ascended him to sometihng greater than he could have ever been. Frigga taught him well.
Richard E Grant's Loki showed that all the Loki's were far more powerful than they ever imagined
Did John miss the part where Loki literally spend hundreds if not thousands of years harnessing that power and perfecting it.
I freaking loved this finale. When we think about the character of Loki and his entire journey through the entire MCU, his journey has so much tragedy. It was beautiful. Loki accomplished what he always wanted but at the ultimate cost. Such excellent writing in my opinion.
The writing was good for what it was. I just thought the premise in general was ridiculous. Some secret organization, using 80 style computers to control time? A human would have absolutely nothing to do with that!
I disagree with your gripe about the finale John, Loki had "centuries" in between to figure things out. And Loki is a god.
Swap out Loki with Thor and his same feat would also be believable.
I was thinking the same thing, He Who Remains had somehow given him the time slipping power and threw all the groundhog day retries was essentially training him to control it and take his place at the end of time.
Yea, there is a great part in one of the animated films where Thor is hit with a beam that ages him and makes him 10x more powerful. They told us, it was more fiction than science. He used his magic to turn it to fiction.
Came here to say this. This Loki was Super Sayian Loki who could control time. He is literally the one who remains.
Yeah John Campea is tripping Loki season 1 and 2 was great and brilliant
I have never understood Campea's hate for the Loki show. Season 1 was great too!
He needs to reveal his favorite MCU show and convince us it’s better than Loki season 1 or 2… can’t be done !
Loki has personally been my favorite of all the shows, and a little gap to Wanda #2, and a HUGE drop off for everything else.
When he was willing to sacrifice for others, Loki became worthy of a greater power. Just like Thor in his first movie.
Loki is hands down the best Disney plus marvel show.
When Loki stopped time in front of HWR and asked “and what makes you think this is the first time we’ve had this conversation” that was the clue that he was capable of more than we knew at the time. He kinda knew what he would have to do but he was exhausting every possibility so he could live with his friends. He wanted to win, but that’s not what Lokis do.
Exactly and the story also implied that he spent centuries to learn science to the point he had more knowledge than Ouroboros. Surely he had the time to learn a few tricks.
@@kanuks69 Yeah you can’t go into a comic book world expecting a historical retelling. Shit gets wild in comic book world lol I think if there was one scene after Sylvie with Odin where he recognized his power it could’ve connected to some of the people looking to complain about stuff. Kinda like Thor and his mom. But overall I think Loki season 1 and 2 were infinity war/Endgame level products.
This is the same guy who said he loved the Ms. Marvel show. You can't make this up. John says "Never did they imply he had this power in the MCU", maybe because he discovered this after two whole seasons of a show centered around him. Also, he keeps talking about Loki going up against Thanos when this Loki isn't that same Loki, this Loki is from 2012 Avengers when the Avengers went back in time to collect infinity stones during Endgame.
They did imply that he had that kind of power. Does Campea think that He Who Remains was born controlling the multiverse? Loki was born more powerful than He Who Remains. Didn't He Who Remains also did by a small stabby stab? Campea is talking crazy.
Yeah, this Loki is atleast centuries older than the Loki from infinity war (maybe over a thousand year older than that loki(
I disagree on John's point the finale was not earned. The nuggets were in place all along. Seasons 1 and 2 need to be seen as a whole. Loki's whole redemption arc follows through it. Sylvie explained to Loki in Season 1 he has power that he doesn't even realize. Together they found the end of time. That's pretty powerful. Through this season, he learned how to become a master of time. In this last episode, after literally centuries of learning, pain, and failure, he learned how to control his power. He Who Remains needed his little gadget to pause Sylvie. Loki learned to do it with a flick of a finger. After centuries of sacrifice. At the end, his last lesson was understanding self-sacrifice. That was the last thing he needed to complete his redemption.
This whole series was beautiful. Disney Plus shows have been mediocre, but Loki stands out as the MCU's best. There was no massive CGI fight against a "boss". It was one man man finally coming to terms with his destiny. As someone who, the last two years, has been going through his own redemption arc, I found this show touching and inspiring. The tighter I grip on the things I want, the quicker I squeeze them out of my hand. There is an allegory here for me that I found that I need to stop surviving and start living. I never thought I would say this about anything MCU, but the Loki series made me think about a lot of things and my own life. There is a lot to unpack and this show needs repeated viewings to unpack them. I was in tears at the end when Mobius was outside his home, saying he just wanted time.
I applaud the show runners, the actors, the writers, the directors, and all involved in a truly engaging, original, and creative series. Loki is a 10 out of 10 for me because very few shows make me as contemplative as Loki did.
I doubt anyone at Marvel will ever read this, but THIS is how you do the MCU. THIS is how you do a Disney Plus show. THIS is how you engage us. THIS is where your creative energy, originality, and brilliance shine. Make us feel. Make us think. We don't need massive boss fights. We don't need crazy CGI. We want to see ourselves in a character that we love. I applaud the team on this show, the actors, the writers, the dialogue, every effort in this production. I want them to know I was moved by this series, and there are very few things in media that move me.
He didn't die in Thor 2. That was a trick.
Bro he didn’t just get the powers out of nowhere, he spent centuries mastering time and relived countless moments to witness every possible outcome. He eventually learns how to exist out of time like He who remains. So essentially he gained all of the knowledge and power of He Who Remains on top of all of the powers that he already had by being a god.
I know right I’m listening to his rant and at the same time I’m like did he watch the same season finale we all did 🤦🏻♂️ or he just wasn’t paying attention. Since it’s his job to pay attention to details 🤷🏻♂️
Lest we forget, Thor took on a dying star. Maybe after 1000s of years of time slipping Loki learned how to take on the power of the multiverse.
u hit the nail on the coffin .
John, have to disagree about his new powers. Did you not watch the middle of the episode where he spent centuries learning how everything worked? Aaand he fought Silvie thousands of times to save He Who Remains, before he figured out how to stop time.
Also he became the God of Stories, which meant he could re-write the story into whatever he wanted.
Maybe if they had more than 6 episodes, this could have been fully fleshed out, but I felt like it was still fully explained in the episode.
The older Loki from Season 1 Episode 5. He exhibited an unprecedented amount of power. That Episode rang in my mind during the Season 2 finale.
Loki needed a reason to be a God. The Why.
His older Variant in the void showed how powerful he is and can be
Loki had centuries to increase his power. He learned all about it (timelines/physics/multiverses). He didn't die in Thor 2, Time slipping gave him more powers as well. Loki's power grew from the day he met Sylvie & his variants & they taught him more about enchanting and mind control etc. HWR says he is surprised Loki hasn't got more control of his powers when they start to talk, and Loki had fooled him that bit was their 1st time having that chat. He is able to battle Thor, who could survive concentrated Neutron star energy in the vacuum of space. I always actually assumed it was the TVA keeping him from using his powers, that that was the only thing making that radiation (1st time) a danger to him. He can stop time and always change his clothes, stopping himself from dying, which is well within his power set.
He is, possibly, twice as old, if not more than Infinity War Loki, and they really hinted at it so many times.
what is he even talking about? The Loki that was defeated by Thanos, isn't the same Loki that is in the Loki show. It's a variant, and so, we don't have any way that his power levels could even be shown.
The Loki we saw in in main MCU and in the first season was not the Loki we saw in Loki S02 Finale. The Loki that became the God of Stories was like centuries old. He had consumed centuries worth of new knowledge. So he learned new things.
It is important to note that this version of Loki possesses time-slipping powers that were not present in the Loki who died in Infinity War. This Loki is not the same as the one who was previously stabbed or choked, as that Loki perished in Infinity War. Additionally, this Loki has not experienced the events that took place after the Battle of New York, as he diverged from that timeline.
I feel like I watched a different show to John. Loki was outside of time and learned to jump though and control time. So by the end he is clearly evolved and a different power level to anywhere else in the MCU. It wasn’t explained in an explicit way but much like John said he apparently likes , it was shown and you could figure it out
You talk about how he got all this power out of "no where", did you miss the "centuries" time jump? His power had time to grow, and as far as we know he spent that time learning. I can see it.
He leveled up his power when he finally started acting and fighting for the “who” instead of what’s, when’s, and where’s”. That line in episode 5 tells us that unlocking that emotion unlocked the ALL his powers as a god he never knew he had. including touching and healing timelines, controlling time slipping, and powers the infinity stones had that were already in him, but greed and power blocked it.
But still, how can he suddenly know he has power to hold multiverses together
@@worlddd7777cause multiverse are just time strands.. He is a wizard god..obviously only he and other like him can touch and give power source to it..
Lol! Leave it to John to find the most nitpicky things to complain about on a phenomenal season and finale! I swear all he does now is go out of his way to be negative!
Oh John, did you miss out on the flash screen that mentions Centuries later??? One could imagine that in all that time he could’ve realized his power and ability. Especially after everything he had to repeat.
Btw, I’m pretty sure in Thor The Dark World, Loki getting stabbed was an illusion. This was one of your more messy takes.
Exactly!!
Not only that, be when he was talking to The One Who Remains, he said “this isn’t the first time we had this conversation”
So there are a lot of time loops that we did not see where Loki was learning greater control of his abilities
@JohnCampea I believe you are missing a key creative point of the story tht Loki spent CENTURIES learning Quantum Physics just to have the temporal loom piece & then possibly another 1000 years or more to be successful just to see he had to go back even farther just to fight Sylvie a 1000 times… it’s a creative jump the writer & director hope the audience would come to
I want the whole creative team who was involved this season to write both Kang Dynasty & Secret Wars.
Are you sure? Loki writers have been involved in most of the recent projects - Multiverse of Madness, Quantumania, The Marvels, among others.
I think they should hire the two Daniels (the ones who made Everything Everywhere All At Once) to write those.
@@leonardocerqueiradias6168They should hire Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert to write them instead.
Yeah, I want those guys they handle those movies to
@@leonardocerqueiradias6168 Read my comment carefully, please! I want the creative team from THIS season. Season 2 does not have the same creative team as season 1 with the exception of Eric Martin and that’s just 1 guy and he wasn’t involved with any other Marvel project. Also, Jeff Loveness who wrote Quantumania was not involved in Loki
I’m guessing John skipped over the part where they did that gag reel of “centuries later” and Loki being smarter than OB and Timely….
DIDNT stick the landing!? are you serious? never disagreed with you this much before.
Technically this isn’t our Loki, so you can’t really complain that MCU Loki never did XYZ before. He’s the ultimate variant, the Loki that remains.
Exactly!!
Classic Loki by Richard E Grant holding back Alioth in the first season, surprised Loki and showed him he could become more powerful than he ever knew. Odin asking Thor are you the God of Hammers or the God of Thunder taught Thor his power came from within and these Gods lived thousands of years and still have a lot to learn about themselves. So Loki's power was hinted at.
“I think we’re stronger than we realise”. S1. It was his experiences and alliances through both seasons that unlocked his powers. Like Thor in Ragnorok. Gods level up all the time in comics and movies (or Dragonball lol). Felt like a common motif to me…
Loki's sister, Hela, is the Goddess of Death. Yes, Loki has the power to maintain the Tree of Life.
I feel like the final images of Loki holding the strands together is a metaphor for him endlessly going through time and making sure each timeline goes in the right direction. It is "another level" of perception (like a tesseract). The image of Loki on the throne is metaphorical, not physical.
I like this too because I also have trouble conceptualizing how he can physically hold time
At the beginning of this season they establish Loki is not the same due to his time glitching. This is what brings him to develop the time slipping, which is basically what enables him to develop his knowledge and power over time by the end.
That's too hard of a concept for John to grasp.
John I think you missed the point where it was his journey that made him all powerful. On learning to control the time slipping (through his bond with his friends etc), he also masters science with the time equivalent of centuries in the TVA. Time slipped back to the fight between Sylvia and He Who Remains, their conversation during the time freeze moment shows Loki has become as powerful as him, he finds a replacement of sort, someone that finally put the pieces together if he’s willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. It was chess. It’s a masterful finale. The series as a whole is one of the best work marvel has put out.
Spot on. I mean if John doesn’t really like season 1, it’s not surprising he missed the mark here. He Who Remains is one of the most honest villains out there bc he knows it all so he can afford to be truthful to test ppl. He wanted to be replaced & Loki made the sacrifice worthy to replace him.
@@davidd.3555 Or it was last minute rewrite because of Mayors situation
@@worlddd7777doubt it, bc at the end of the day the loop HAD to be broken otherwise what’s the point of secret wars?? So He Who Remains had to be replaced & Now battle world is looming
8:26 John obviously has selective memory and has no idea what he is talking about. Loki did not die in Thor: The Dark World. In fact, he was sitting on the throne at the end masquerading as Odin to refresh your memory. 🤔🤷🏾♂️
blud is just crying because it dethroned wandavision as the best mcu d+ show.
Yeah you’re absolutely missing the point and with a take like this, it just seems like you aren’t paying attention while watching this show…..
What was the point?
A black screen with the text "CENTURIES LATER" but **whoosh** That right there should literally be enough to explain the level of his new powers. I've read so many forums with so many questions and complaints, but John's the first one who I came across that questioned how Loki got so powerful "out of nowhere" because "stabby stab" 🙄
Season 1 and 2 tell a very cohesive story for Loki
For the record Loki did not die in Thor 2 by the "Stabby Stabby" that was literally a fackout death he did to fool Thor, it was shown in thay very movie.
Also, Loki in the end of season 2 has been shown to have the power to STOP TIME AND MOVE IT FORWARD AND BACKWARD!!
Don't forget Loki lived centuries, possibly millennia, in this episode... constantly pushing himself to his limits in every way possible. Hundreds of years learning physics. Thousands of trial and errors. Untold rounds of conversation with he who remains.
It's like how Doctor Strange got a boost from what we saw in his first movie to what we saw in Infinity Wars after however many years he spend coming to bargain. Loki started exponentially stronger, then pushed himself a lot harder for a lot longer in a universe where magic bends to will.
1) Loki existed out of time
2) He spent 100 years learning quantum physics
3) He learned to control time
4) If loom can control timeline. then, the maker of loom and those that knows how loom work probably can?
Good point
Agreed, its nonsense but still fun and as far comics go, consistent
John....before he even showed the power of holding the multiverse in his hands...he not only became the science genius but also learnt to control the time with just a flick of his finger!!! He had centuries to train and evolve. Of course he got this powerful. It was inevitable
He isn’t holding the multiverse. Universes and timelines aren’t the same thing. Each universe has it’s own set of timelines. Loki is only holding the branched timelines of the main 616 universe
@@tannerp.4996 No he isn't holding timelines of only 616. Its a mutliverse saga, not branched 616verse saga. Kangs are emerging from other universes, not from 616 branches. Spiderman no way home got toby and andrew from other universes, not from 616 branches. Loki is holding on to the timelines of inifinite universes, and those universes are creating their own branches as well. I can go on and on with this but hope you get the picture
@@MawaisH85 So stupid, but fun nonetheless
they did hint at this, the minute he started to control the time slipping and also back when they controlled alioth
Did you miss "Centuries Later" cue card or when HWR said "let's try few more thousand times and you learn controlling time" or when Loki paused Sylvie in between? John you are off the game bruh!
Guess he skips a few seconds ahead😂😂😂
14:32 They quite literally said that Loki was a lot more powerful than he realized, in season 1.
During the show, Loki has had to stop relying on blades - which "Classic Loki" said was something that stunted Loki's magical power.
Yeah, it's a retcon because they weakened him compared to the comics, but it's not actually a plot hole. It's a retcon that makes some sense.
John might have watched the show, but I don’t think he payed attention… jfc
Why?
At times he comes off as purposely dense.
He's upset that Loki never displayed the power to breath life into timelines but he has no problem with Loki learning how to travel through time by controlling his "timeslipping" to the point that he can now time travel to any point in his history. Maybe....just maybe the reason Loki has that power is because it is his destiny to do exactly what he did.
Everyone gets obliterated at the end of ep 4 when the loom explodes but Loki gets warped back in time so he can try something else. It appears that was his story all along and it doesn't have to be a negative because you can't make sense of it.
Because he doesn't agree with ME!!! Wahhh.
That's what you people sound like.
I never seen a comment section filled with so many ppl who couldn’t disagreed more with your review! 😂
No they stuck the landing, i wasnt buying it being the best MCU all that before talk....Now with this whole season. Yes its the best MCU show.
The best finale they’ve ever done.
Dude Loki learned how to time slip at the end of episode 5. Why is it hard to understand that he can control time and become burdened with glorious purpose at the end?
Honestly, John, do you ever try to challenge or look past your own thoughts/opinions and try to seek to understand?
Previous physical strength has nothing to do with the ability to breath life into the time lines . He learnt what he needed during his journey trying to fix the time line . It’s not that hard to believe. The series was amazing . Stunningly beautiful and best character arch by far for any character marvel has ever done ! I’m just sad there’s not more
Loki relalizes the scope of his power and mentions Silvie about it, after he sees Richard E. Grant's classical version of Loki confronts Alioth in Season 1
The two directors aaron moorhead and justin benson should make Secret Wars.
secret war should be a bombastic action movie, not an emotional character study though
The two Daniels who made Everything Everywhere All At Once should make Secret Wars and Kang Dynasty
It feels like John not actually pay attention to the final episode
It was entirely him spending centuries honing these new abilities he got from time slipping
This. Old Loki in Season 1 episode 5 had powers far superior to our Loki because he'd been alive so much longer and really honed his powers. He said that next to their powers a sword is a distraction - the illusion that he created of all of Asgard was a demonstration of his far superior powers. Loki literally learned how to jump through time an pause time over the course of centuries, he could EASILY use the powers to pause time to help him combat the radiation on the gangway - not to mention absorbing all that radiation after he destroyed the loom and it all came crashing down on him. He's literally a Capital G GD now.
thor and loki are 1500 year old i think... so i don't think 2-4 centuries any different for them
Thor had told loki that he could be more than just the god of mischief. Odin had said they were both born to rule. Maybe loki was always meant to have this power, but could never realize it until he gave up his selfish ambition?
Finale is Solid
Previous marvel writers had no imagination or knowledge of the power of the norse gods. Finnaly we have writers who understand what some of the characters are capable of
The visual of Yggdrasil was stunning.
He spent a century to learn, so not that unreasonable. Think he forgot about that...
He was studying quantum mechanics. Not absorbing all the power of creation to be the single power source giving life to the multiverse. He's never had that kind of power.
@@johncampea My take is that by killing He Who Remains from season 1, Loki rerouted his destiny. This caused him to timeslip, get “God of Stories” powers, and force him to loom timelines/takeover the He Who Remains job, which is what Kang said he’d have to do if Loki/Sylvie killed him. The underlying ouroboros theme of it all forces him to have that power whether it makes sense or not. Loki can’t exist without the sacred timeline and the sacred timeline can’t exist without Loki.
So thor saying asgardans get stronger with age loki gains time powers then use his centerys power boost on top of his new found/mastered time lord powers john this audience understood it no you didnt
😂😂😂 I dont think John fully paid attn
Hey, John, it's fiction, not science. 😀
john clearly didnt understand what occurred
agreed. typically I find the "You just don't understand" argument to be an incredibly annoying cop-out, but in this case, he truly didn't understand what he was watching.
The things he says overtly misalign with what actually happened in the show. Many of the things he claimed weren't teed up, absolutely were. His complaints about how some things didnt make sense, absolutely did make sense and had breadcrumbs the whole time.
John seems to have watched this show with his eyes closed or playing on his phone the whole time. There are some very obvious details that John seems to have missed completely, that I don't think could be explained any other way than him just not paying attention when they happened. And I dont mean "Oh you didn't look hard enough!", but things you would genuinely only miss if you had looked away and had your attention diverted from the show
I tapped out as soon as Campea said that he didn't think it stuck the landing. He's out of his mind. I don't even want to hear whatever gripe he has against the best MCU project to ever come out. I didn't even like Loki or the show, but the final episode made Loki and the show the best thing the MCU has ever done.
You level up when you have Centuries… as a God…and given ALL the powers of the Infinity Stones.
I think the hint in the first season of a greater power level was the old Loki's conjuring the whole Asgard and the main Loki saying that they're stronger than they realize
I’m sorry but that whole sequence of Loki just saying again, and again, with the music was spot on and then you realize he has to stop silvy
Episode was perfection
John just missed it, the detail was small yet there. In episode 6 when Loki "masters" timeslipping he then studies for CENTURIES to repeatedly learn about fixing the Temporal Loom. That was the key. He did what many God tier Asgardians do, he became more powerful with age. Thus, unlocking the physical power, knowledge, and magical upgrades needed to pull off the feat at the end.
How I interpreted the new powers thing is that he always had the strength and power but was using it the wrong way so he wasn’t living up to his potential. It took this major shift to unlock what he already had.
The finale was solid. It was single handedly one of the best finales of the MCU Disney+ shows
7:04 it was show in season 1 a older loki could be quite powerful, two he had centuries to develop his skills, he was time jumping to learn how to build the physics toy fixer thing, then he spent more and more jumping around his timeline to learn the knowledge to solve the problem, and then he was in a "temporal wake," that kind of shows hes getting older, I would have assumed he was protected by his time powers. So while cheap he learned it off screen and if you pay attention it is there.
Dude he’s anchoring all of reality to him that’s what it means he got centuries of training and understanding of what he’s doing
They did tease it, I’m season one when old man Loki at one point said something like…I think we might be more powerful than we realize…this show is about Loki discovering himself and the potential of his own powers, he didn’t know how powerful he was. A full circle for the character, only when he finally understood the lesson odin was trying to teach him, that the throne is not a position of power, but a position of service, he was able to accept a ascent to the throne. In a way he’s now the all father. And while he is all alone and always will be, unlike Sif’s prediction, it’s not because he’s an unlovable prick, quite the opposite. Being along in his throne is the burden of his glorious purpose.
I’ve noticed a pattern with your opinions, John. Feels like there can be this amazing show/movie, and you’ll get hung up on a very specific aspect which will ruin it for you, or at least to a degree. Then conversely there’s a mediocre to bad project that you love one aspect of so much that the flaws don’t seem to matter, and it can do no wrong. It’s always one or the other, and your opinions will intensify over time. To the point that you’ll hate the one with a single flaw, and absolutely love the not so good one for a specific reason 😅
Loki has a far better character arc than Wanda, don't kid yourself. The show itself is way better written and acted as well.
Also in regard to how Loki became all powerful, you failed to realized that the show did tell us that ever since Loki gain the ability to time slip thousands of years has past for Loki. He spent centuries just learning how the TVA worked. He probably spent longer figuring out how HWR created and managed the loom. It's there you just missed the subtle clues.
Well, since there is space being sticking out of ocean and nobody talks about it, then sure, why not give Loki power to control multiverse
Wanda had the better arc? You can't be serious John! She literally went crazy and killed herself. Loki was developed through 12 years of MCU and saw him grow a lot. Also, I don't think it's the last we see of Loki. I respect your opinion but totally disagree.
Not to mention Wanda's arc didn't even make any sense. Even Elizabeth Olsen thought it was absurd and that Multiverse of Madness contradicted what the show had done - and it did.
@@ryhanon7 totally agree
Man what do you need more from an ending?
Can't help but think for once the Marvel writers trusted the viewer to understand Loki got the time slipping powers and over centuries learned to control them and become more powerful and John's like nah could you actually not trust us and spell it out please 😅
is "time slipping" inherent Loki's power or was it a failsafe option that the TVA assigns to any person in the TVA or HWR assigned it to him... 🤔💭💭💭💭
@@elijahkems602 I took it that HWR gave him the power in s1 and knew everything that was going to happen and the numerous retries were him 'training' Loki.
Like the part where he says he can't pause time and surprise Loki can at which point we're trusted to understand there has been a 2nd time jump that wasn't shown of Loki learning how to control the powers. 🤷♂️
You're analysis is extremely flawed 🤦🏾♂️
The feeling I got from it is he didn't ever realize he had it in him. When he discovered his purpose, he discovered his power.
I respect your opinion but I 100% disagree.
I guess we watched different shows. Loki because he who remains made him time slip. He has had centuries if not more to become more powerful. The show showed how many times he had to mess up in order to grow. My favorite series is Loki .
I thought he got the power because of him getting brought out of time and the time slipping stuff plus centuries to learn how to control it.
Loki leveled up as he kept time slipping and redoing the past. He kept learning more about his powers over the decades of making mistakes and growing as he time slipped.
But how did he gain the ability to time slip?
I'll just say one little thing. Loki did not die in Thor 2. And I can't believe I have to point that out.
Sure, but Thanos snapped his neck quite easily, and he was not using an infinite stone to do that
@@MavethTheReaperyeah and Thanos also beat up hulk in 20 seconds. That whole scene was extremely stupid. It’s better if we pretend it doesn’t exist
@@jaywilliams4750 Agreed their treatment of mcu hulk has been horrendous
@@MavethTheReaper ditto
This show was fantastic from beginning to end
Season one Richard grant loki showed him he's by dar more powerful than he thought
This dude lost his mind.😂
Loki season 2 legitimately made me like the MCU again. I’ve had the worst taste in my mouth about marvel since 2021 (and it started at endgame), but this show has kept me as my only 100% tie to being a fan.
John there is such thing as pandering to "be popular on the internet" but there's also pandering to the fact you don't want to be like everyone else so you TRY to find something wrong.with it so you're not agreeing with everyone.
I found not a single comment agreeing with John. 😂😂
The intro theme in reverse hooked me right away
I remember a line in the first season where Loki and Sylvia have just been using their powers and seen another variant do something they didn't expect and Loki states something like "maybe we're more powerful then we realise" - but that was the first season and never got reiterated in the second season as far as I recall.
Look I agree Loki grabbing the timelines and enchanting them to work and be fine now, is a bit rushed and lacked that extra understanding. However, Loki had hundreds and hundreds of years to master his new time slipping powers. He spent centuries learning everything OB knew. Then spent how many years fighting Sylvey and talking to He Who Remains. We missed no joke 1000+ years of Loki mastering his new powers. So yes it felt like it came out of nowhere a bit, he def earned it.
Clearly John is not paying attention to the show. Haha. Aside of the centuries worth of time slipping, they did not show how much time Loki time slipped and what other things he did during those times so that's it... Hahaha
Pretty sure the time slipping would be included in those centuries
No, it doesn't explain it.
I'm 100% with John
We seem to be in a great minority of opinion, but it bugs us.
How does Loki go from getting smashed by the hulk, to giving life to the entire multiverse?
Only centuries of learning and training?
That's it?
Time powers are not going to get you there
And his own powers are too weak to be able to do anything remotely close to this
Even if you add 5000 years, still shouldn't make up for it.
You don't go from getting smashed by the the hulk when you're about 1000 years old
To reviving the multiverse at 2000 years old, not even with time powers
I don't think people are getting our reasoning
I know it's comic accurate, his development was great, but that ending
That crazy power amp, doesn't make sense
I thought we all knew that thor and loki had godlike abilities. They are somewhat on the same level. In the first season we saw old man loki create an an entire city. I think in this season we see Loki focusing on his true powers. KANG WAS ALWAYS THE MAIN BAD GUY. The man who is the smartest beyond his belief, could control time with his apple watch. He knew Loki could take his place. This was a essentially a practice course for Loki to realize his Glorious Purpose to hold together time.