Is the 2023 Honda Civic Si a BETTER sport sedan than a Kia Forte GT?

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  • čas pƙidĂĄn 20. 01. 2023
  • The Civic Si has always been Honda's value priced sport compact car. On the outside you will find a 18 in wheels, dual exhaust, LED headlights and black accents. On the inside will be greeted by cloth sport seats, 9in infotainment system, and seating for 5. Under the hood is a 1.5L turbocharged inline-4 that produces 200HP & is mated to a 6-speed manual gearbox. Is the 2023 Honda Civic Si a BETTER sport sedan than a Kia Forte GT?
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  • @burplesoy
    @burplesoy Pƙed rokem +45

    I actually cross shopped the Civic Si and Forte GT, and I ended up with the Kia. Even without the markup, the Honda was more expensive for less content. I agree that the Si drives better, but the Forte is close enough while also having features that are a must-have for me. Largely, I did not want a cloth interior because I have a dog and you can never get all of the fur off of cloth seats. I also really wanted ventilated seats because I drive long distances and hate getting back sweat in the summer. The cherry on top for the Forte GT was a much more prominent exhaust sound; it makes it clear that it's not just a regular Forte without going too far into boy-racer territory.

    • @lilloco1482
      @lilloco1482 Pƙed rokem +4

      @@Bareknuckles182 I’m not a car person but I have seen a lot of people like the new kia.

    • @maoinc13
      @maoinc13 Pƙed rokem +8

      ​​@@Bareknuckles182ot true dude I've own civic and Kia and never had any problem with the Kia , and I sold my civic to buy me another Kia because civic are freaking overpriced don't talk shit when you haven't even owned a Kia at least form 2019 they have improved a lot and you get a more complete car for the price , if you want to buy a civic right now with the same stuff that the Kia Forte GT2 has the MSRP it's 31k not 28 like he says in the video that's just for the base one , it's 5 k more expensive than the Kia , and the warranty it's a big factor too 10 years or 100 thousand miles for engine and transmission for the Kia

    • @maoinc13
      @maoinc13 Pƙed rokem

      ​@@Bareknuckles182Veloster isn't Kia dude it's from Hyundai

    • @maoinc13
      @maoinc13 Pƙed rokem +1

      ​@@Bareknuckles182and it's not all over CZcams 😂😂 how old are you ? 10 ?

    • @maoinc13
      @maoinc13 Pƙed rokem +5

      I'm with you man ! I just bought a 2023 Kia Forte GT2 Turbo and it's fucking awesome 😎👍 and I also have a 2023 Kia K5 GT and it's đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„

  • @aurelquintana8279
    @aurelquintana8279 Pƙed rokem +2

    Always the love the raw, humorous, and honest review. Keep it up!

  • @slicunit
    @slicunit Pƙed rokem +17

    I have been a Honda Owner for over 25 years, but my new Kia Forte GT line is an amazing car. I saved over 10k because Kia was willing to negotiate.

    • @jackmemphis777
      @jackmemphis777 Pƙed 26 dny

      Why did you get the GT-line instead of the GT? The GT is way better

  • @simonpz4159
    @simonpz4159 Pƙed rokem +6

    The sand paper joke for the center arm rest made me laugh out loud in public, thanks Joe 😂

  • @desmondpowell3205
    @desmondpowell3205 Pƙed rokem +4

    WOW Joe, This is the car I just bought at team Honda 2 weeks ago!!!! I can't believe Your vid is on the car I just got! Same color and everything, this video just hyped me up to get it, have to wait a month for it to come in but when it does I'll be over the moon!!!!

  • @marck.5116
    @marck.5116 Pƙed rokem +14

    I have a 2023 Forte GT and Love it. The only thing missing is a limited slip diff.

    • @Xyz_Litty
      @Xyz_Litty Pƙed rokem +1

      It’s definitely missing a Limited Slip
      I own a 2022 Manual Forte GT .. It ALWAYS wheel hops , from off the line ..
      Don’t know why Kia didn’t implement this

    • @fortifiedgt2754
      @fortifiedgt2754 Pƙed rokem +3

      I have a 22 GT2 DCT and love it as well. LSD is missing, but still feature packed enough for me to choose over the Civic for less $.

    • @Xyz_Litty
      @Xyz_Litty Pƙed rokem +2

      @Juan Suarez We also walked away with a 10 Year 100K Mile warranty’s
      Walked off the lot only spending 27K .. These Forte GT manuals are amazing for the cost vs luxury vs performance .. We have a quiet of bit more technology vs the SI

    • @marck.5116
      @marck.5116 Pƙed rokem

      @@fortifiedgt2754 I agree

    • @iana36s
      @iana36s Pƙed rokem +1

      If you’re looking for stuff over driving enjoyment resulting from great dynamics, Kia’s the right choice.

  • @Darrkness
    @Darrkness Pƙed rokem +17

    I love my 2020 SI coupe. It's a great daily driver and a fun ride. Congrats on your CTR Joe!

  • @Sandwich137
    @Sandwich137 Pƙed rokem

    Love your videos! Can you please do a video of your car collection ?

  • @bryanwashington9511
    @bryanwashington9511 Pƙed rokem +71

    The 11th gen Civic looks good all over. The Sonic Grey is tasteful and the interior with the red trim is a nice touch. The US models should have fog lights standard across all trim levels and there should be connectivity for the rear seat passengers. Thanks Steven for your camera work and Joe thank you for the review 👍👍

    • @CRF250R1521
      @CRF250R1521 Pƙed rokem

      @Juan Suarez i totally agree all those features are for pussies. I love my 22 Civic Si, real sports car, no extra shit just what i need at the track.

    • @AD-eq4kn
      @AD-eq4kn Pƙed rokem +1

      I like that color

    • @yatexasnycaflnvnigga
      @yatexasnycaflnvnigga Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      Pay cheap price type r good up price so we maybe wait in tell think something I tell you later but type r cheap let just make si or le

  • @fightnight14
    @fightnight14 Pƙed rokem +2

    That stick shift punch line lmao I can't

  • @dominickirkwood
    @dominickirkwood Pƙed rokem

    I love it Joe and Lori and keep up the great work real true and I love the video 👍 💯💯💯💯

  • @BobAyers
    @BobAyers Pƙed rokem +10

    Love the color and sporty look. I’m sure it will be fun to drive with the manual..worth the price

  • @Popparoks
    @Popparoks Pƙed rokem +1

    Hello Joe, i watched your videos non stop and ending up getting one of these. You are super cool!

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem +1

      That is so wonderful! Thank you for being super supportive!

    • @Popparoks
      @Popparoks Pƙed rokem

      @@RaitisRides one of the best car reviewers. Joe can sell water to a whale

  • @waltfraher7198
    @waltfraher7198 Pƙed rokem +2

    Hi Lori and Joe. Thank you for another great car review. I purchased a used 2019 SI early in 2022 and love the car. But for future reference, and possibly wanting to get an 11th Gen SI at some point, how do you feel about the SI now as compared to the first set of reviews of the car?

  • @pacosanchez89
    @pacosanchez89 Pƙed rokem

    You got the best job in the world brother. Another great review. The type R is the way to go but that price point is killing it. This is the way to go for regular joes

  • @carlclarke9029
    @carlclarke9029 Pƙed rokem +2

    I forgot this car has fake engine sounds. I unplugged the module the first time I heard them.

  • @carlosroman9908
    @carlosroman9908 Pƙed rokem +2

    As a happy owner of a 2023 Kia Forte GT (MT), I have to say that I'm digging the look of the Honda Civic Si. It does look sporty.

  • @JSin5
    @JSin5 Pƙed rokem +20

    I picked up my 2023 Civic Si a couple of weeks ago. A huge thank you for your multiple great reviews on the 2022 Si. It is an all around perfect enthusiast daily driver car.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem

      That is so awesome Jason! Congrats man!

    • @D.N.R.911
      @D.N.R.911 Pƙed rokem

      Heck yeah, enjoy it!

    • @metaldreams3595
      @metaldreams3595 Pƙed rokem +1

      Im hours a way from paying $33,500 for Mazda 3 premium hatch out the door....and i might see if a honda rep wants to take the deal away dfor a Civic SI or Civic Touring...man the Mazda is so badass though...

  • @IsaiahEBelk
    @IsaiahEBelk Pƙed rokem +1

    Just bought a ‘22 Canadian spec Civic Si today that I came across already in the states! Loving it & plenty of creature comforts 😎

    • @Michael-pi8ps
      @Michael-pi8ps Pƙed rokem

      @Juan Suarez that’s not actually the rule. It’s more complicated than that.
      The Canadian Car and the USA car are the same vehicle so it already conforms to our regulations.
      The actual tricky part is financing a new one as an American. An American bank won’t wanna deal with a Canadian dealer, and a Canadian bank won’t do business with an American who’s going to register a car in a different country.

  • @gibstera5580
    @gibstera5580 Pƙed rokem +4

    Love the Honda SI and the Hyundai Elantra N. Both come in a 6-speed manual and with a turbo . The problem is that it is difficult to find one locally to test drive and compare. And then there are the markups S.H Honda dealership are putting on top of msrp. I watched a prior video on Elantra N, and now this video. Both reviews are great, and making the decision a more difficult choice. Thank you for sharing

    • @andybub45
      @andybub45 Pƙed rokem +2

      Easy way to get around the mark up is to custom order. And go to different dealerships until one of them concedes.

  • @OleMisss
    @OleMisss Pƙed rokem +12

    This grey is really nice in person. Always have to check out my neighbors when I pass by 😂

  • @Roman.7
    @Roman.7 Pƙed rokem +4

    Every Honda has the same profile.

  • @daniellelac3034
    @daniellelac3034 Pƙed rokem

    Once again Mr Raitis,
    You present this vehicles
    stats and capabilities
    succinctly and honostly!
    L♡VE that you address amenities
    vs price-point [the latter being more crucial in my estimation]
    You are the best @ how you specify vehicle model trims
    so thoroughly! 🚘

  • @deivsonsilva9230
    @deivsonsilva9230 Pƙed rokem +1

    Man I really like your videos, it's interesting to know more about the car market in the United States, I'm from Brazil.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem

      That is so cool! I am so glad that I can share it with you!

  • @yasseralsaidi1168
    @yasseralsaidi1168 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    I love your enthusiasm about the car World 🌎 Keep up the good Work Florida man

  • @aidanmcpherson5018
    @aidanmcpherson5018 Pƙed rokem +41

    Thank god it's manual

    • @mattmekhaeil
      @mattmekhaeil Pƙed rokem +8

      The si has always been a manual. You can get a manual on civic if you don’t want the si

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem +5

      Tell me about it!

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem +2

      @@mattmekhaeil Very good point as usual Matt.

    • @aidanmcpherson5018
      @aidanmcpherson5018 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@mattmekhaeil yeah I'm glad they kept it like that and didn't switch fully to an automatic

    • @mattmekhaeil
      @mattmekhaeil Pƙed rokem

      @@aidanmcpherson5018 a manual is an enthusiast car. If they made them all automatics I don’t think they will sell well especially if the si converted to one

  • @Shono731
    @Shono731 Pƙed rokem +1

    Awesome video Joe!! The Si is a great car for sure!! I am a fan!! Keep up the phenomenal content Joe and thanks for another great video!! đŸš™đŸ‘đŸŒ

  • @007massey
    @007massey Pƙed rokem +10

    SGP was the color I was hoping to get when I was initially looking for my Si. Couldn't find it, but found a Black for basically MSRP when everyone else was parking them up 5k so I took it. Now I've got a FL5 in SGP coming in, so I guess all things work out in the end!

    • @XxArmedGamerxX
      @XxArmedGamerxX Pƙed rokem +1

      Was at a Honda dealer today that had a blue Si. But they wanted $36k . Smh

    • @007massey
      @007massey Pƙed rokem +2

      @ThatDudeJessie Yeah, that's ridiculous. The markup on my FL5 was 5k but after calling 50+ dealers and seeing a minimum of 8k from ONE, and 10-15+ from all the others I decided to just grab it.

  • @74babyblue
    @74babyblue Pƙed rokem +1

    Honda really knocked it out of the park on the civic's design. Damn near perfect.

  • @mattmekhaeil
    @mattmekhaeil Pƙed rokem +9

    Sport injected as what si stands for and you get it in this. Honda knows how to make a fun manual that handles so well

    • @darkivaz-aaa1145
      @darkivaz-aaa1145 Pƙed rokem +3

      okay toyota fanboy. Whatever you say

    • @mattmekhaeil
      @mattmekhaeil Pƙed rokem

      @@darkivaz-aaa1145 I don’t own one or drive buddy. Nice try. Is what you do for a living? Harassing people for an opinion you lowlife? Get a job do something with your life. I’m sorry my opinion doesn’t satisfy your ego

    • @darkivaz-aaa1145
      @darkivaz-aaa1145 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@mattmekhaeil Yes you do. You said you've own a toyota. Stop the lying. And also all you is d11ck ride car reviewers on youtube who don't even know or gad about you, talking without your turn on random people's comments and argue with non toyota fanboys who states their opinions with valid source. It's time for you to get out of your basement and go yourself a girl matt. I know, the world is cruel, but you gotta be a man to deal with hard times kid.

  • @icculus
    @icculus Pƙed rokem +18

    The idea is to push customers towards the Integra for the upgraded amenities, although you need the top-of-the-line trim to even get a manual. But you do get the fog lights, adaptive dampers, heated seats, dual climate control, leather, hatchback, full exterior LEDs, better sound system, and more.

    • @Pogona2011
      @Pogona2011 Pƙed rokem +3

      It worked with me! 23 Integra 6MT-with adaptive suspension, been USING the heated seats for first 10 minutes at 35F (SF Bay Area snow!), sound is great, fog lamps helped in heavy rain, hatch is great, etc. Most of the 0-60 diff with Si is Summer tires vs All Season. Great ride and still fun on "twisty bits". When tires are in need of replacement I' go with higher performance all weather. Also got for 35,300 when Si was still going for 35K

    • @maoinc13
      @maoinc13 Pƙed rokem

      I went 2023 Kia Forte GT2 Turbo at 30k out the door đŸšȘ 🎉

  • @a_tech_3
    @a_tech_3 Pƙed rokem +5

    Folks just get yourself a 2022 model and save some money. Not worth the 2023 SI, not to mentioned everything is practically the same AND Honda failed again to bring all the things the Canadian model has like dual climate control, fully digital speedometer and tachometer, fog lights etc. Just disappointing to see them repeat what they did to the US consumers again for the 2023 model and I was a sucker that bought the 2022 US model hoping they'd change for the 2023 to trade it in but nope.. def gonna look for something else now.

  • @iana36s
    @iana36s Pƙed rokem +3

    Man I love driving the 2022 Civic Si. One of the most fun cars on the road.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem

      That is so wonderful Ian! Congrats!

    • @iana36s
      @iana36s Pƙed rokem

      @@RaitisRidesIt also helps that it is a Canadian model.

  • @RyanJohnson-ft6qi
    @RyanJohnson-ft6qi Pƙed rokem +1

    Just got a Gt manual in steel grey it's nice and quick, $26k. Lifetime warranty

  • @peterscauzillo9443
    @peterscauzillo9443 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    Love your videos

  • @susanjspaulding
    @susanjspaulding Pƙed rokem +1

    đŸ‡ș🇾 *My brother once owned a RED Civic Si* !! *Super FUN and sporty car* !! *Honda has been building very popular cars since the 1970's* !! *Not sure it's really a comparison vehicle to such a new brand as Kia(In the USA in 1992)* !! *FAB video Joe and Steven* !! #RaitisRides đŸ‡ș🇾

  • @ramoncarter6585
    @ramoncarter6585 Pƙed rokem +7

    I love this gray and the Civic is a beautiful car loving the Forte that's another beautiful subcompact car the Forte is a great car the Civic is much fun to drive both cars are great believe Civic might run longer.

    • @r3games1985
      @r3games1985 Pƙed rokem +1

      Ya I drove both and as long as you don't plan on keeping your car past 4 to 5 years get the Forte GT and same a lot of money but get more car.

    • @r3games1985
      @r3games1985 Pƙed rokem

      @Juan Suarez I wouldn't call full leather interior with heated and cooled seats gimmick tech. But I get what you mean.

  • @vegito1087
    @vegito1087 Pƙed rokem +1

    I really want one of these joe!

  • @dragons8393
    @dragons8393 Pƙed rokem +4

    Yeah I think the Kia Forte GT with the GT2 package better for my option I appreciate the review though it helped me make my decision. 👍

  • @rickybobby5547
    @rickybobby5547 Pƙed rokem

    I got one of these and love it put around 1250 miles on it and its such a fun daily driver

  • @gilbertovalenzuela9143
    @gilbertovalenzuela9143 Pƙed rokem

    I just ordered mine today really excited for my first new car

  • @andybub45
    @andybub45 Pƙed rokem +3

    This car is probably my favorite entry level sport sedan. Decent power, a fun drive, a decent amount of features, and most importantly, the same practicality as a normal Civic, so you won’t sacrifice the daily livability. And the price is really good in my opinion, you can get this for the same price as a Camry SE (if you can get around dealer mark ups). About the all season tire issue, I’m the outlier and I actually prefer the all seasons. In North Carolina, the weather can get pretty nasty so even though you are sacrificing the handling slightly, you won’t have to worry about bad weather which makes it more practical. I wish it would be a no or lower cost option so the customer could choose. But if I was to get a new car, this would probably be at the top of the list.

    • @corybureau4124
      @corybureau4124 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      i wouldn't be so worried about poor weather handling in this car since it has a limited slip differential. i saw a video of a guy who takes his Integra through snowy mountains with all season tires, and it performs exceptionally!

  • @ryandevlin3057
    @ryandevlin3057 Pƙed rokem +11

    SI is good for MSRP anything over isn’t worth it

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem +4

      I would have to agree with you Ryan!

    • @maoinc13
      @maoinc13 Pƙed rokem +3

      HONDA Civic SI is overpriced !!!! It's 28k the " base " model if you want it loaded you gonna have to pay 31 k for this car plus whatever extra money the dealership is going to charge you at least another 4k so you looking around 35k for this car isn't worth it

  • @Aschoolbusandsimulatorfan2219

    My everyday sedan!! Amazing review Joe.

  • @AndrewNation13
    @AndrewNation13 Pƙed rokem

    The guy does his homework, never missed a beat

  • @albertaldape9749
    @albertaldape9749 Pƙed rokem

    Good for when you’re backing up at your local cars and coffee haha!

  • @James-fx1kv
    @James-fx1kv Pƙed rokem

    17:11 “maybe get some Cubans, mmm, Cuban sandwiches” 😂 this dude is too funny lmao

  • @cardo1111
    @cardo1111 Pƙed rokem +36

    As always a comprehensive upbeat review. Regarding fog lights I hear ya, something looks like it's missing without them. Fogs look nice and offer additional light when needed. The current generation Lexus ES350 no longer offers fog lights either, obviously another way auto manufacturers continue to cost-cut.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem +5

      Very good point!

    • @riteshdhawan8383
      @riteshdhawan8383 Pƙed rokem +4

      This kind of cost cutting is not acceptable. When the intensity of fog is to such as extend that you cant figure out what's ahead of your car's front bumper. Its the fog lights that is required at that point.

    • @riteshdhawan8383
      @riteshdhawan8383 Pƙed rokem +1

      @Juan Suarez "Their job is to help you find the lines on the road" you say. Then how would you expect to find those lines without those fog lamps?
      When you have fog up to your front bumper, the light thrown by the main headlamp doesn't help. It actually makes driving worse, as the thick fog only acts like a mirror the more light thrown on it by main headlamp, the more you get blinded. Switch off the damn headlamp and just run on fog lamps allows you to " find the lines on the road".

    • @AD-eq4kn
      @AD-eq4kn Pƙed rokem

      @@RaitisRides I like the color

  • @G10CKable
    @G10CKable Pƙed rokem +6

    When the first model year of the 11th Gen. Si came out, I was looking for it all over the place, basically ignoring all other options. I wanted a 6-speed and just fixated into an Si. Then, I stumbled upon a VW GLI Autobahn and that’s what I ended up getting. So many more features in a package that’s comparable to this Si: DCC, heated and ventilated leather seats, more horsepower, bigger sunroof, etc. And I got it in the pure grey color. Still, this Si is great to look at and I’m sure it’s great to drive

    • @HarryTwatter
      @HarryTwatter Pƙed rokem

      and the GLI is twice as fast while getting the same mpg

    • @donaldzuramp4404
      @donaldzuramp4404 Pƙed rokem

      How much is the price of gli?

    • @iana36s
      @iana36s Pƙed rokem

      Funny I drove the GTI but felt the Si was more pure fun. The GTI was definitely a close 2nd.

    • @davetropp2818
      @davetropp2818 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@HarryTwatter twice as fast ? I’d love to hear your explanation on that.

    • @juelz4516
      @juelz4516 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      @@HarryTwatterI’ll smoke your Jetta with a Tune on my SI

  • @roadchamp4082
    @roadchamp4082 Pƙed rokem

    Thank you for you A+ video. I wish if they make Si hatchback. I am hatchback and station wagon person.When do u think they will bring civic hatchback hybrid?

  • @markrodz2633
    @markrodz2633 Pƙed rokem +2

    some dealers are pricing these at like 40k not worth it for a 1.5 engine that blows up so fast.

  • @jedimaster71
    @jedimaster71 Pƙed rokem +2

    I like the color on the car and great review. I am still probably going with Kia Forte GT since it has an available DCT transmission

    • @andybub45
      @andybub45 Pƙed rokem +2

      Class action lawsuit on the DCTs, I’d avoid any Kia

  • @jonthebizkit360
    @jonthebizkit360 Pƙed rokem +154

    ....The Canadian Version is better. đŸ˜©

    • @cryxbaby2250
      @cryxbaby2250 Pƙed rokem +15

      That's why you just get a 10thgen. It's better than both.

    • @lance5817
      @lance5817 Pƙed rokem +1

      It's 35k CAD though, yes I know if you convert to USD it is still cheaper

    • @SIIKAP1
      @SIIKAP1 Pƙed rokem +33

      @@cryxbaby2250 False. I’ve driven both, and 11th not only looks better, but feels better as well. And the interior is miles better. The dampers and heated seats in 10th gen do not make up for the overall feel, fit, and finish of the 11th gen.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem +15

      They do get more options for sure!

    • @raymondtuckerjr1886
      @raymondtuckerjr1886 Pƙed rokem

      According to you. I, and many others disagree. Point? What's your point?

  • @mystictk4149
    @mystictk4149 Pƙed rokem +1

    The shape has always been fine and I can definitely understand people who didn’t like it at first cause I’m like that at times with some cars. I’m completely fine with no fog lamps so that’s not a zonk in my book and that color is so lovely.

    • @ferrarriohh
      @ferrarriohh Pƙed rokem

      I live in Phx now, and its not, but I lived 40 yrs in Maryland area & I have to say, no fog lights is a huge zonk! We used to get wild fluctuations in temps & humidity. Some days could not see much more than 10ft w/o fog lamps kicked on

  • @adidaz0018
    @adidaz0018 Pƙed rokem +2

    Dude..love your enthusiasm. "A chirping tire is a happy tire" đŸ€Ł think you sold me 🙂

  • @aidanconway6183
    @aidanconway6183 Pƙed rokem +1

    Been looking so hard to find one at msrp and just can’t in Washington state and with the Kia forte gt there’s zero around with a manual transmission are there any other cars around that price range that you would recommend

  • @BigBadRivi
    @BigBadRivi Pƙed rokem +1

    I love that sonic gray with the flat black. And NO WAY would I choose Kia over a Honda and it’s reputation for reliability and performance

  • @bt9765
    @bt9765 Pƙed rokem +2

    Joe, every time you and Lori do work with a Honda dealer, challenge them on their insane markups on cars like these.

  • @45s262
    @45s262 Pƙed rokem

    The infotainment being upright I believe is to reduce glare and improve overall visibility.. as opposed to something that is slanted which nobody would ever do with their hand held device or TV, etc..
    I think that's the intent.
    I just got this '23 si in platinum pearl.. I am happy with its ride, performance, looks, gas mileage, windows tinted, overall it's gunna fit the bill..
    I'd say getting to 60 in 6 seconds is difficult..

  • @takaradope
    @takaradope Pƙed rokem +2

    Funnily enough, I got a Kia forte gt ad on this video😂

  • @stevehuk902
    @stevehuk902 Pƙed rokem +2

    Perfect timing. I pic up my Canadian spec si Monday at 4. White pearl

    • @bill4632
      @bill4632 Pƙed rokem

      Congrats! Good choice.

    • @stevehuk902
      @stevehuk902 Pƙed rokem

      @bill4632 thanks Bill. Should be a good little commuter.

  • @TastyGoomba
    @TastyGoomba Pƙed rokem

    used to have an 88 accord, it was a solid craigslist beater but so fun drive! it was tight and a joy to drive w/the moonroof open although it was sloooooow. wonder if this new civic would give the same "experience" to fulfill my midlife crisis lol? under 30k, not bad at all. the amenities are not that big of a deal... just the 6 speed, moonroof, and that tight driving feel is what matters to me.

  • @ranthony2714
    @ranthony2714 Pƙed rokem +1

    Great review Joe. You have driven the si and integra. What do you prefer?

    • @iana36s
      @iana36s Pƙed rokem

      I own a Canadian 2022 Civic Si and have driven the new Integra multiple times. It’s definitely nicer experience ie sound system, quieter, has the hatch and lots of additional features. It’s also more money. I’m happy with my Si but if money was not a factor I would prefer the Integra. BTW even the horn is better in the Integra.

  • @daynevickers1079
    @daynevickers1079 Pƙed rokem +2

    For me, this would be the perfect car, with one exception.... it would have have been nice if Honda would have offered a power driver's seat to be able to get the proper "H' point in order to relieve lower back pain. It may seem small, but for someone with lower back problems, not having that feature is a deal killer for me.😒 Great review, Joe!

    • @jamesinson3488
      @jamesinson3488 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      I have back issues and I was worried about the same thing before buying my '23 Si. But now I gotta say that the seats are probably one of the best things I like about the Si! Even if I could adjust the lumbar position, I'd likely keep it right where it's at. I just wish it came with 25 - 30 more hp.

  • @chriscarguy6657
    @chriscarguy6657 Pƙed rokem

    I would love to know what you would choose 2023 Honda Civic Si or 2023 Subaru BRZ (Toyota 86)? Love the video. The Si is a great car for a good price. I am hoping to find one in my area to test drive. Great job as usual.

  • @vjdfl5
    @vjdfl5 Pƙed rokem +14

    Thanks for not comparing this slug to the Elantra N for once. The forte is the right car to put it up against

    • @lawnmower6591
      @lawnmower6591 Pƙed rokem +3

      Bro what did the slug ever do to you

    • @IsaiahEBelk
      @IsaiahEBelk Pƙed rokem +6

      Meanwhile the Elantra N look god awful. I’d take the looks of the civic si any day

    • @vjdfl5
      @vjdfl5 Pƙed rokem

      @@lawnmower6591 nothing lol. I like it but it’s always getting pitted against the EN which is more of a CTR competitor

    • @vjdfl5
      @vjdfl5 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@IsaiahEBelk looks are subjective.. drive not so much. The Si is slow af lol. nice looking though!

    • @BStudd1182
      @BStudd1182 Pƙed rokem +1

      The Si does drive like a slug tbh. The shifter feels like a Type R gearbox but that’s where the compliments stop. The Forte GT is def the better bargain and the quicker faster car to drive.

  • @BarRYK333
    @BarRYK333 Pƙed rokem

    Awesome reviews! Please get the 2023 mitsubishi outlander phev.

  • @CortizMiata
    @CortizMiata Pƙed rokem

    Dope ass car definitely trading my 2016 mx-5 for a 2020 + civic si in the summer , had my fun but now i need a reliable car and fun car at the same time and be able to keep it for years

  • @briano7986
    @briano7986 Pƙed rokem

    As a Canadian, its a rare joy to hear an American being envious of the Canadian market version. Now American's get a taste of what Canadians deal with all the time. Thanks Honda!

  • @DarkJediChrisG-1425
    @DarkJediChrisG-1425 Pƙed rokem +30

    Love the color Joe. The SI is a good sweet spot in my opinion if u don't want to pay top dollar for a Type R. Can't wait for the 2023 Honda Pilot media event! I saw my first one on the road today in the flesh!

    • @Blackwing668
      @Blackwing668 Pƙed rokem +3

      No way,that’s awesome.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem +4

      That is awesome Chris! The Pilot goes live on Tuesday.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem +2

      @@Blackwing668 They are coming for sure!

    • @DarkJediChrisG-1425
      @DarkJediChrisG-1425 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@RaitisRides Great! I'm sure it's in the morning!

    • @DarkJediChrisG-1425
      @DarkJediChrisG-1425 Pƙed rokem +1

      @Redeye Who Dominates The Drag Strip Yeah bro, it looked pretty cool in green going down the road.

  • @shawnfahey7243
    @shawnfahey7243 Pƙed rokem +1

    Another great video! By raitis rides. Thank you soo much for doing these very entertaining videos that are very helpful at the same time.

    • @JIA1327
      @JIA1327 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +1

      @Shawnfahey7243--Helpful ??

  • @TylerRivera635
    @TylerRivera635 Pƙed rokem +5

    With dealer mark ups these civic si models are looking closer to 35-40k dollars man

    I’d love to get one but I can’t justify that much when there’s better performing vehicles that are around the same market price.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem +1

      People need to hit the pavement and go after what they want. It is out there if you are willing to look.

  • @bowjangles510
    @bowjangles510 Pƙed rokem

    I have 5k miles on my 22 si now and honestly I love it. Throw a tune on it if you want more power otherwise it's a perfect daily/weekend warrior. But I will be trading it in for the type r lol can't help it. It's just finding one with no markup. Also the black fabric on the arm rest can get kinda nasty lol

  • @vidarsrt797
    @vidarsrt797 Pƙed rokem

    Glad there's still SI Civics, in Philippines, I saw only RS Turbo, that's the Southeast Asian Market equivalent of SI according to owners and some Honda Sales Consultant I talked to.

  • @AndrewQuiroz24
    @AndrewQuiroz24 Pƙed rokem +1

    This honda civic is so dammmm nice.

  • @michaelsalice9952
    @michaelsalice9952 Pƙed rokem

    Joe great video, with all the high end cars you review its nice to see you give the Civic Si so much love!!!! and i totally agree, "A chirping tire is a happy tire"!!!!!!!!

    • @JIA1327
      @JIA1327 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +1

      @Michaelsalice9952-- I don't agree that a chirping tire is a happy tire. What a ridiculous and irresponsible statement when driving a new car that does'nt belong to him. His "on throttle" remarks are old and stale. I can't understand the Honda dealership letting this guy abuse a car like that and then turn around and sell this car as "new".
      It should definitely be sold as "USED" after Raiti gets through with it. Think about it. An unsuspecting new car buyer , buying a used and abused car. Thanks to Raiti. There ought to be a law against this practice. I believe some laws are already being drafted. I for one am very happy about that .

  • @Pethaho
    @Pethaho Pƙed rokem

    what’s the difference between this si & last year’s si? any upgrades?

  • @stevenr1354
    @stevenr1354 Pƙed rokem +2

    Great review. Love the car. If only they offered it in Lunar Silver.

  • @bruceleeroy8302
    @bruceleeroy8302 Pƙed rokem +6

    Why can't they make this trim with a hatchback (and no, I don't want to buy the integra instead)?

    • @sarahprather4109
      @sarahprather4109 Pƙed rokem +1

      Right?! The fact that it’s not a hatch is dealbreaker for me. I need the storage! And I like the look way better on a hatch

  • @federicollorente3016
    @federicollorente3016 Pƙed rokem +1

    Joe i was wondering, does anyone delete that fake exhaust noise from the speakers

  • @amosfunk3059
    @amosfunk3059 Pƙed rokem

    I have the si i bought the Honda data tune for it and it makes 254 hp/tq now I love it so much fun of a car

  • @edwardinvegas
    @edwardinvegas Pƙed rokem +1

    I waited over a year to get my 2022 Civic Si in Blazing Orange Pearl in Oct. 2022 at a reasonable price here in CA. It was to "replace" my 8th Gen. 2007 Civic Si with 266K, not a chance, I still love this car too, it's a keeper, fun to drive. The 2023 is the same exact car as the 2022 Civic Si, just call it a 2023. I absolutely love the car it was worth the wait for me in my opinion. My zonk would be the trunk light I saw the same one in this video. I have no clue why Honda skimped again with an incandescent instead of an LED like the rest of the cabin lights. First thing I changed with a Lasfit LED, much better can actually see in the trunk at night.

    • @alvinsimba734
      @alvinsimba734 Pƙed rokem

      LED.. . There is nothing wrong with incandescent, its cheaper to replace and also to meet at a price point.

    • @edwardinvegas
      @edwardinvegas Pƙed rokem

      @@alvinsimba734 right 👍 it's a personal preference for me. $10 bulb 💡😃 makes no sense though the rest of the interior lights are LED...

  • @Angelbonilla1982
    @Angelbonilla1982 Pƙed rokem +2

    I preferred the 2021 Civic is much better looking car than this cheap Accord!! ahh my bad Civic!! Good job raiti's

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem

      Everyone is going to have their favorites!

  • @MakTony
    @MakTony Pƙed rokem

    My first car I bought with my own money was a 2012 Civic si. I miss that car.

  • @MrDaveaccord
    @MrDaveaccord Pƙed rokem

    Cool color and a nice vehicle overall. Why has Honda eliminated the engine temperature gauge in the instrument cluster? How cheap can you get?

  • @MisterMikeTexas
    @MisterMikeTexas Pƙed rokem +2

    Pretty neat car. Anything with a manual is cool beans today.

  • @tradermarkkalil86
    @tradermarkkalil86 Pƙed rokem

    Good stuff!!!

  • @Bondrkmz
    @Bondrkmz Pƙed rokem

    “Tongue wrestling” LOL

  • @stavroslask1292
    @stavroslask1292 Pƙed rokem +16

    I don’t understand the 200HP, the SI in 2024 should have a minimum 250HP by now! Cmon Honda!!! What generation SI is this again?

    • @eternallogic6394
      @eternallogic6394 Pƙed rokem +3

      Honda engineers came to the correct determination that you don't need more than 200hp on an Si.

    • @stavroslask1292
      @stavroslask1292 Pƙed rokem

      @@eternallogic6394 im sure they did! Or they were told to do so

    • @znghant
      @znghant Pƙed rokem

      11th gen.
      These have plenty of power from the factory for their intended purpose. Honda also knows what people like doing to these. 250hp is dead easy to achieve on this motor with an OTS tune.

    • @stavroslask1292
      @stavroslask1292 Pƙed rokem

      @@znghant most places can’t TUNE properly and a check engine light is always on. From the factory it needs to be 250 HP. No one is better than the Honda or Toyota Engineers. Those japs are in another level, they put the sissy Germans to shame

    • @znghant
      @znghant Pƙed rokem +1

      @@stavroslask1292 You’re correct, and those same engineers decided 200hp was enough for this car in stock form and then made another one that does 300+ reliably in stock form. đŸ€·đŸŒâ€â™‚ïž But there are/were plenty of incredibly well-documented 10th Gen Civics running OTS or custom tunes and how reliable they’ve been. Majority of the issues came from user error (bad timing parameters, overly aggressive torque curve, etc. from inexperienced tuners trying custom shit), failed CVTs/engine internals for non-Si’s, or failed gaskets from head lift. The OTS tunes have been pretty safe at 250whp versus the 200 @ crank from factory.
      Either way, workarounds exist, but I doubt we’re seeing a raw power bump from the factory until Honda goes hybrid for the Si’s powerplant.

  • @cilossilva1220
    @cilossilva1220 Pƙed rokem +1

    I have the 2022 honda for about a year now and I gotta tell you it's a good daily driver so much mpg. When it comes to speed it has potential but it also has it's limits so be aware. overall it's a fun car to drive.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem

      Thanks for sharing that great ownership experience.

  • @omarcortes5754
    @omarcortes5754 Pƙed rokem +4

    It has some zonks but it is a great car. Fun to drive and very practical.

  • @Awakendd
    @Awakendd Pƙed rokem +1

    I've contacted 3 honda dealers near me to inquire about the this car. In total they are all charging 38 K..If they were actually charging around MSRP I would get this for sure.

  • @bradleywhite5941
    @bradleywhite5941 Pƙed rokem

    Si looks fantastic, I wish the regular sedans came with the manual without having to go hatch.

  • @ryox82
    @ryox82 Pƙed rokem +1

    I ended up with a 2020 Si. My first new new car ever and am very happy with it. These newer ones are a bit muted for my taste. The fog light thing difference between us and Canada is silly. Same as not getting a heated stearing wheel in my year car. I am in Tampa multiple times a year. I will have to stop in some time. As far as stock tires go, I wouldn't even recommend either. Ask for Michelin Cross Climate 2's and enjoy your life.

    • @ryox82
      @ryox82 Pƙed rokem

      @SiSePuede_Juan I went from the summer tires to these and the Performance doesn't even compare. Also my Si is a commuter. I like how driving in the rain feels like dry road and hitting a puddle at speed doesn't jerk the wheel.

  • @vinrave
    @vinrave Pƙed rokem +1

    I like the Si it’s like my dream car when I was a kid. But I’m still debating whether to get Si or saved a little more for the type R. The price of Type R here in California is almost doubled the Si.

  • @paulrussell6495
    @paulrussell6495 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    I'm picking up 24 of one of these this week here in vancouver 😊

  • @ronburgundy4375
    @ronburgundy4375 Pƙed rokem +2

    The forte gt is better especially that Honda is copying designs on to other cars. It's more well equipped has a dct option. I do wish the type r came in sedan form and had a dct option

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem

      Yeah you are not alone in that thought!

  • @r3games1985
    @r3games1985 Pƙed rokem +4

    Joe mentions my car again. 2022 Forte GT. The Civic Si is a great car BUT it's about $6000 more than a Forte GT and comes with way less features. Heated, cooled leather seats with electronic adjust. DCT option, wireless phone charging, dual zone climate and longer warranty are all standard on the Forte GT. BUT I wouldn't keep the Forte past the warranty. The Civic Si has a more quality built inside and out.

    • @RaitisRides
      @RaitisRides  Pƙed rokem

      I appreciate you sharing that ownership input!

    • @kilerseb117
      @kilerseb117 Pƙed rokem

      how long is the warranty? i've got a 2023 gt coming out but cant remember, i wanted to keep that car a long time but now your making me wonder.... @r3 games

    • @r3games1985
      @r3games1985 Pƙed rokem

      @@kilerseb117 I'm in Canada so it's a bit different. Just look it up where you live. The GT still has the pretty reliable engine straight out of the Veloster Turbo.

    • @kilerseb117
      @kilerseb117 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@r3games1985 im in canada too, quebec XD

    • @kilerseb117
      @kilerseb117 Pƙed rokem

      @@r3games1985 if its reliable why you suggest changing it

  • @vascoDG1498
    @vascoDG1498 Pƙed rokem +1

    It's disappointing the options we don't get here just to push the Integra in the bigger U.S. market but what's outrageous are the dealer markups. I'm seeing some of these used going for $33-36,000.

  • @BStudd1182
    @BStudd1182 Pƙed rokem +4

    Went with the 23 Forte GT 6speed last summer. Overall I was a little more impressed with the GT over the Si after driving and taking a deep dive on both vehicles.

    • @maoinc13
      @maoinc13 Pƙed rokem +2

      I did the same I checked the Honda dealership first with the Honda Civic SI and I was adding everything the Kia Forte GT2 has, almost everything because there's a couple of things the Honda Civic SI can't upgrade because they don't have it and out the door it was going to be 36k đŸ˜ąđŸ«°đŸ’° so the better option for the money it's the 2023 Kia Forte GT2 plus the warranty 10 years or 100 thousand miles can't beat that !! 🎉🎉🎉 And it cost me 30k outta the dealership

    • @nbain66
      @nbain66 Pƙed rokem

      ​@@maoinc13there are no options on the Si other than mats, color, etc.