Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora - PS5/Xbox Series X|S Tech Review - Graceful Scaling vs Maxed PC

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora on PC is a defining technological statement for state-of-the-art gaming visuals in 2023... but where does this leave PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series consoles? How well do the premium machines deliver the experience in their 30fps quality and 60fps performance modes? And is Xbox Series S still at the races with its 4TF GPU and reduced memory? Tom Morgan has all of the answers.
    Note: Here's an extra clip of the image break-up bug on Xbox Series X in static moments - which is largely absent on PS5: • Avatar Pixellation Bug...
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    00:00 Introduction
    04:18 Performance vs Quality Mode Comparison
    07:05 Series S vs Series X Comparison
    11:01 PS5 vs Series X Comparison
    12:24 PS5/Series X 60FPS Performance Mode Test
    16:28 PS5/Series X 30FPS Quality Mode Test
    17:25 Series S Frame-Rate Test
    18:41 Verdict/Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 1,3K

  • @soraaoixxthebluesky
    @soraaoixxthebluesky Před 6 měsíci +501

    You know it's a finely tuned game when they can include RT even on a Series S

    • @danquaza9275
      @danquaza9275 Před 6 měsíci +82

      Not even, you know it’s finely tuned when they can hit 60 fps with all RT settings active, I truly find that more surprising than anything else. Other than Insomniac, no other developers have hit that mark. It’s really amazing to see with a game this detailed

    • @danielwilson6323
      @danielwilson6323 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Wasn’t that the PS5 ? I feel like having that expectation for the XSS is a little unrealistic given the major differences

    • @soraaoixxthebluesky
      @soraaoixxthebluesky Před 6 měsíci +41

      @@danquaza9275 Since when Insomniac make games that can run 60fps with RT enable on a 4 Teraflops machine?

    • @soraaoixxthebluesky
      @soraaoixxthebluesky Před 6 měsíci +22

      @@danielwilson6323 Did you even watch the video? They include RT across all machine. Of course with less ray-counts on Series S as it should. They also pare back other graphical settings

    • @thedude8128
      @thedude8128 Před 6 měsíci +7

      ​@@soraaoixxtheblueskysince Spider-man remastered/miles released.
      Yeah, ppl on Xbox only are sort of left behind in gaming tech... Rt sucks on consoles anyways. Cube maps would work just as well and save gpu/cpu for better raster perf. But this is too technical for you to grip

  • @FSAPOJake
    @FSAPOJake Před 6 měsíci +641

    We need more like this out of Ubisoft. Carefully-crafted, technical showcase, polished games for their major releases, to complement their mid budget or low budget games they also put out.

    • @hmvaa
      @hmvaa Před 6 měsíci +12

      Try get them to do this while also offering quality across the board. Ubisoft has been failing the last few years for a reason.

    • @PlayJasch
      @PlayJasch Před 6 měsíci +56

      Farcry 6 story setup: Help 3 clans and kill the leader. Avatar: Help 3 clans and kill the leader.
      Ubisoft games are usually very good because they dont use Unreal, but when you played one you played them all.

    • @joefawley9264
      @joefawley9264 Před 6 měsíci +7

      I wouldn't call this a success either

    • @marquintabell5307
      @marquintabell5307 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​​@@PlayJaschactually the story makes sense from far cry to this game because if you watch the first movie they did the same thing.

    • @Techrodd
      @Techrodd Před 6 měsíci +4

      My guess is that there are huge sponsors behind this game.

  • @kenjisasahara
    @kenjisasahara Před 6 měsíci +277

    I think a 40 fps mode would be perfect for this game, but overall it’s an incredible work of optimization, especially on Series S!

    • @wretchedslippage3255
      @wretchedslippage3255 Před 6 měsíci +14

      There is a 40fps mode... it's called Unobtanium on 4080/4090 series cards on PC lmao... Nah but for real. Game looks great on every platform!

    • @AudioPhile
      @AudioPhile Před 6 měsíci +4

      I see peeps commenting about 45fps modes a lot but always thought meh. Been playing this game on a 7800xt everything ultra, upscale qual ultra, frame gen off and without fps graph to remind me , playing at around 45fps was actually fine, even on my lg 65" 4k TV. Still dialed it back for 60 eventually, just feels better but 45 is absolutely streets ahead of 30fps, that shit is awful.
      Really gotta upgrade my CPU...

    • @cqstle-
      @cqstle- Před 6 měsíci +13

      40fps is my go-to setting nowadays on console, so it sucks when it's not an option. Why is that and why don’t most big budget games have the option?

    • @nikc1313
      @nikc1313 Před 6 měsíci +12

      Agreed. 40fps options should be standard. 30 looks like garbage to me but 40fps on Spiderman was pretty much indistinguishable to 60 for me.

    • @SENATORPAIN1
      @SENATORPAIN1 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I'm tired of this comment

  • @flyingplantwhale545
    @flyingplantwhale545 Před 6 měsíci +1106

    Truly shows how dogsh*t Unreal 5 is on consoles when a game like this, with Ubisofts own engine looks and runs so beautifully even on a Series S

    • @MrVoland44
      @MrVoland44 Před 6 měsíci +214

      "own engine" thats why its so good. devs pushing limits usally with their own engines.

    • @Will-pm6fq
      @Will-pm6fq Před 6 měsíci +132

      unreal engine 5 is a "dogshit" now because many bug developers have just begun to use it now, as time goes on, developers will learn to use it in full potential, I believe the Coalition will have a good use for it

    • @Mychannelbandung
      @Mychannelbandung Před 6 měsíci +123

      In-house engine is always superior to licensed engine like unreal and unity. None can argue that!

    • @Neilos-sd6ti
      @Neilos-sd6ti Před 6 měsíci +80

      ​@@Will-pm6fqrobocop is ue 5 and it looks great

    • @Saif0412
      @Saif0412 Před 6 měsíci +29

      ​@@Mychannelbandungthat's because devs actually know how to get the most out of it. Unfortunately most devs don't seem to know how to optimise their games to the same extent.

  • @phrozac
    @phrozac Před 6 měsíci +57

    Really impressive showing for the consoles. Massive and Snowdrop are apparently great together. This bodes very well for Star Wars Outlaws.

    • @ChrisWidell
      @ChrisWidell Před 6 měsíci +5

      Well, Snowdrop is Massive’s in-house engine. 🙂

    • @phrozac
      @phrozac Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@ChrisWidell Yes, but plenty of devs have proprietary engines that don't run particularly well. Don't wanna name any names but one that comes to mind rhymes with Spethesda ;)

  • @mandrews6282
    @mandrews6282 Před 6 měsíci +71

    I’m kind of shocked they didn’t just go with Far Cry’s Dunia engine for this game given how similar the format is. But the engine looks more impressive to be honest. And gives me some hope for the upcoming Star Wars game which will use the same engine.

    • @JustJuan731
      @JustJuan731 Před 6 měsíci +22

      It’s funny you say that, because Far Cry 7 seems like it’s gonna use Snowdrop.

    • @No-mq5lw
      @No-mq5lw Před 6 měsíci +33

      Dunia is extremely old, outdated and is getting replaced with Snowdrop anyways.

    • @anorax001
      @anorax001 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I am glad the did not use Dunia. Snowdrop is so much better.

    • @uriahg9775
      @uriahg9775 Před 6 měsíci

      @@JustJuan731Hopefully the next Assassin's Creed will be on Snowdrop as well. Because the Anvil engine looks pretty dated these days.

    • @JustJuan731
      @JustJuan731 Před 6 měsíci

      @@uriahg9775 nope, AC Red is is gonna be an upgraded Anvil Next (we’ll probably finally get Anvil Next 3.0)

  • @Maya_Ruinz
    @Maya_Ruinz Před 6 měsíci +288

    Its honestly one of the most beautiful games I have ever played, once you get to the grassland area its incredible and worthy of being awarded for its level design.

    • @ivofixzone6410
      @ivofixzone6410 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Are you sure....yes beautiful but for first 20min . The rest is typical boring Ubisoft reskinned FarCry . Play Far Cry Primal instead - 10 times more interesting and engaging . Pretty shell is not a recipe for a good game .

    • @AlexAnteroLammikko
      @AlexAnteroLammikko Před 6 měsíci +30

      @@ivofixzone6410 The OP only talked about its beauty. And they are right. The game looks unbelievable.
      I suppose, just like Avatar the movie, the visuals are surface deep to some. But that doesn't take away the fact that it is a technical showpiece.
      Games have a lot more than visuals, and so maybe the game is boring, haven't played it yet.

    • @Noob-yx1cu
      @Noob-yx1cu Před 6 měsíci +28

      @@AlexAnteroLammikko the Gameplay is amazing and the story is fine

    • @Noob-yx1cu
      @Noob-yx1cu Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@Ding-2014yap yap yap

    • @vandammage1747
      @vandammage1747 Před 6 měsíci +3

      30fps looks like a blurry slideshow and the 60fps looks like an xbox one game, doesn't look good at all.

  • @Chinballz
    @Chinballz Před 6 měsíci +89

    There's also a generous FOV slider present on consoles! A rare treat.

    • @TomTom-nj8dr
      @TomTom-nj8dr Před 6 měsíci +3

      At which fov do you play in?

    • @Chinballz
      @Chinballz Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@TomTom-nj8dr I've settled on 96, sitting 2.5m away from a 65" display. Not noticing a big hit to performance.

    • @overheatedeskim054
      @overheatedeskim054 Před 6 měsíci

      not rare

    • @ThunderingRoar
      @ThunderingRoar Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@overheatedeskim054it is very rare

  • @nw6358
    @nw6358 Před 6 měsíci +27

    I never thought I'd be buying or even desiring playing an Avatar game. I'm very excited to play after seeing this footage.

    • @peterGchaves
      @peterGchaves Před 6 měsíci +2

      Same. I'll add it to my wishlist, this is a very pleasant surprise this year!!
      I'll definitely play it eventually, and I'm sure I'll love it from everything I've been seeing of it until now.

    • @weekendtrailerparksupervis3216
      @weekendtrailerparksupervis3216 Před 5 měsíci

      Hollywood movie to video game very rarely works and with this game and with robocop that trend might change.

  • @SeaToSkyImages
    @SeaToSkyImages Před 6 měsíci +117

    I'm loving all of these next generation games that are finally coming to consoles. It felt like Gen 8 was never going to end.

    • @BurritoKingdom
      @BurritoKingdom Před 6 měsíci +4

      And games finally using Mesh Shaders!

    • @frostyone182
      @frostyone182 Před 6 měsíci +5

      It’s the exact same thing every generation. It takes 2 - 3 years for big games to start only coming out on the new generation. People have short memories. PS3 had big games coming out for years after the PS4 came out. We’re right on track with this generation.

    • @Battleneter
      @Battleneter Před 5 měsíci

      Not sure what you mean by "next gen game", games typically take 3-6 years to develop, this one has been in development since 2017, what makes it "next gen"?

  • @fraktux
    @fraktux Před 6 měsíci +145

    I'm 42 hrs in, 85% story completion and having a blast!!! One of the best open world games I've ever played. What Ubisoft did here is amazing 👏🏻

    • @gleam6370
      @gleam6370 Před 6 měsíci +3

      How’s the story for Ubisoft standards?

    • @JebesNikove
      @JebesNikove Před 6 měsíci +1

      The game is good because it's made by Massive and not Ubisoft (they did help a lil but they are not the main devs). Ubisoft buying Massive was a super smart decision thou.

    • @JKSmith-qs2ii
      @JKSmith-qs2ii Před 6 měsíci +24

      @@gleam6370 the same, which is to say mediocre.

    • @oceanedetotes
      @oceanedetotes Před 6 měsíci +13

      it is Massive Entertainement who developped it ;) Let's give them the credit they deserve

    • @fraktux
      @fraktux Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@gleam6370 decent! Everything fits better in a Avatar world

  • @samhawkes6597
    @samhawkes6597 Před 6 měsíci +69

    I have to say, 60fps feels and looks great on the on ps5. The world is so detailed and lush you barely notice any different visually apart from some muddle looking water reflections at times

    • @nick13b
      @nick13b Před 6 měsíci +8

      Got a series s for 100 bucks last week and this game runs so good on it! RT for days!

    • @BUPMY1
      @BUPMY1 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@nick13bbrand new?

    • @overheatedeskim054
      @overheatedeskim054 Před 6 měsíci

      english?

  • @zonkedmusician1502
    @zonkedmusician1502 Před 6 měsíci +28

    The Snowdrop engine really is a marvel.

    • @Fizzleish
      @Fizzleish Před 6 měsíci +2

      Some would say it's....massive 🤭

    • @zonkedmusician1502
      @zonkedmusician1502 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Fizzleish See what you did there....😂

  • @Noob-yx1cu
    @Noob-yx1cu Před 6 měsíci +100

    One of my favorite game this year. Truly a dream come true for avatar fans

  • @Bronwyn031
    @Bronwyn031 Před 6 měsíci +77

    Avatar: FoP (PC) is the breakout title of 2023 for me. It just came out of nowhere after the Game Wards just wrapped. It has been over a decade since a title has come along that made my jaw drop just in visuals alone; not since the original Crisis. I'm still fairly early on through my playthrough but nevertheless the game is absolutely breathtaking from a visual standpoint. I hope Massive Entertainment releases many DLCs and expansions for this game.

    • @deadcaptainjames6045
      @deadcaptainjames6045 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Agreed the game is fun and visually stunning. My only complaint is how Vanilla the story is but that's a minor gripe compared to the rest of the game

    • @krys421
      @krys421 Před 6 měsíci +5

      I had the same feeling I had when first playing Crysis as soon as I entered the jungle in Avatar for the first time.

    • @WH250398
      @WH250398 Před 6 měsíci

      Ok Avatar "Fop" sounds pretty stupid in my opinion.

    • @XZ-III
      @XZ-III Před 6 měsíci +1

      I dont think Game Awards are even worth effort in paying attention to. feels liek the people hosting those are playing different kind of game

    • @Noob-yx1cu
      @Noob-yx1cu Před 6 měsíci

      @@deadcaptainjames6045 probably so it can be cannon

  • @joshc6493
    @joshc6493 Před 6 měsíci +43

    Honestly it's astounding that there even is a 60fps mode with the visuals and rendering tech here. Amazing

    • @CheckmateStallioN
      @CheckmateStallioN Před 6 měsíci

      This game is hardly demanding. They went for a specific artstyle

    • @fosterfostan5593
      @fosterfostan5593 Před 6 měsíci +25

      @@CheckmateStallioNTje game uses RTGI and RT reflections, are you high ?

    • @ultrag33k52
      @ultrag33k52 Před 6 měsíci

      @@CheckmateStallioN What an absolutely absurd comment. Go & check out DF's video on the PC version, especially near the end where they mention the "Unobtainium" hidden setting set you can unlock.

    • @alexandrebelair4360
      @alexandrebelair4360 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@CheckmateStallioN Prove it.

  • @perjacobsen8445
    @perjacobsen8445 Před 6 měsíci +20

    Avatar frontiers of Pandora feels like magic. Thats how good it is 😊

  • @Cavscout101
    @Cavscout101 Před 6 měsíci +49

    Devs need to do more 40 fps settings

    • @Joeybatz33
      @Joeybatz33 Před 6 měsíci +6

      40fps Quality Mode with 120hz TVs ❤️💪

    • @Rocksteady72a
      @Rocksteady72a Před 6 měsíci +5

      My thought always while playing this. The bump from 30fps to 40fps felt massive when Horizon Forbidden West put it in. i want that option everywhere now

    • @acevedoaandres
      @acevedoaandres Před 6 měsíci

      40 fps is mediocre, they are popular because ps5?is a crap and developer dont have vrr until late in the game and digital sony is always looking for excuses for sony mediocre console. Even now vrr is pure crap

    • @Cavscout101
      @Cavscout101 Před 6 měsíci +16

      @@acevedoaandres cry more

    • @Makavelli2127
      @Makavelli2127 Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@acevedoaandres Sony are the only ones offering 30fps, 40fps 60 fps and 120fps modes in their games, wtf is Microsoft doing? Haha, options are good.

  • @indieslayer16
    @indieslayer16 Před 6 měsíci +53

    I've been absolutely adoring this game! One of the only games I play on Quality.

    • @Johnanomous
      @Johnanomous Před 6 měsíci +6

      A locked 30 with proper frame pacing will always feel good. It’s the unstable 30 that’s horrendous. I mostly always play performance. But I’m playing this on Quality and it’s great!

    • @Nucleosynthese
      @Nucleosynthese Před 6 měsíci

      @@Johnanomous Also try the PC version maybe. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯

    • @Johnanomous
      @Johnanomous Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Nucleosynthese whenever I invest into a PC. I’m sure I will. I’m old school. I don’t want to get a PC because I know what’s going to happen. I’ll only play PC and I’ll lose the awesome childhood feeling of playing on console.

  • @aseddon130
    @aseddon130 Před 6 měsíci +40

    It is genuinely one of the best looking games I’ve ever played. I didn’t mind playing on the 30fps mode just to take the added extras on the visuals. Genuinely stunning.

    • @Nucleosynthese
      @Nucleosynthese Před 6 měsíci +1

      Also try it on PC. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯

    • @thedeadin68
      @thedeadin68 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@Nucleosynthesewhen you have a high end rig
      I have an 3070 and my vram is fucked when i buy this game

  • @jeffreysmith7377
    @jeffreysmith7377 Před 6 měsíci +20

    The first time you leave the facility and enter into Pandora is visually amazing.

  • @terencecaron2922
    @terencecaron2922 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Great job by Morgan as always, my fave at DF

  • @anasshahid224
    @anasshahid224 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Picked up Avatar Frontiers of Pandora on PS5 and man the graphics are absolutely stunning! It’s the first game since Horizon Forbidden West that has blown me, the world of Pandora is so lush, the natural environment, lighting is top notch. Flying around on the Ikran is a treat, Far Cry Primal is one of my all time favorite games and Avatar Frontiers of Pandora captures the vibe of that game perfectly. 😊😊

  • @TheTupacSoldier7
    @TheTupacSoldier7 Před 6 měsíci +44

    Im playing it on a 4090 but holy....the consoles hold up pretty amazingly

    • @AKSBSU
      @AKSBSU Před 5 měsíci

      I just bought it today for $49. I'm going to be testing it on a 5800x/ 7900 XTX Nitro. Most of the ray tracing is probably not an option for me, but I am curious to see how it runs with a proper FSR 3 implementation on a 5120 * 1440 screen with HDR. It seems like Massive got every version running the best it could on all platforms.

  • @LastDreamy
    @LastDreamy Před 6 měsíci +5

    I must say, i favor performance fully for this one just because of the first person movement and verticality in platforming which really imo feels better with higher framerate.

  • @TobyRawal
    @TobyRawal Před 6 měsíci +6

    My only issue is how short the motion blurring is on 30fps. Basically feels like it’s not even there. A longer shutter speed would really help smooth that more out especially on things like your Ikran’s wings flapping.

    • @Nucleosynthese
      @Nucleosynthese Před 6 měsíci

      Try the game on PC maybe. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯

    • @TobyRawal
      @TobyRawal Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@Nucleosynthese Well yes, of course. My point is about consoles which lock the quality mode at 30fps, and what could be done to improve the fluidity of the visual experience.

  • @juhoturunen
    @juhoturunen Před 6 měsíci +70

    I am honestly happy we got finally got a game that pushes the next-gen. We have seen too many mediocre AAA-releases lately.

  • @AJBats
    @AJBats Před 6 měsíci +102

    The more I play the more this game grows on me.

  • @raphaelhatake8706
    @raphaelhatake8706 Před 6 měsíci +9

    I hope the flickering image artifacts on the Xbox will be fixed...
    Especially in performance mode these are extremely annoying & disturbing

  • @TheDungeonDive
    @TheDungeonDive Před 6 měsíci +26

    I LOVE this game. Gives me the sense of awe I was hoping to get from Starfield.

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 Před 6 měsíci +1

      lol Sweet Summer Child

    • @andrewwarner4434
      @andrewwarner4434 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It’s one section of one planet lol

    • @typethings4624
      @typethings4624 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Better than 1000 garbage planets with garbage debris everywhere lol Starfield

    • @alexgray9565
      @alexgray9565 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@typethings4624 at least it was different. This is just far cry with a different name

    • @tronam
      @tronam Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@alexgray9565 Once I actually started playing for myself it wasn't Far Cry that came to mind. It far more resembles Crysis IMO.

  • @theedrprice6532
    @theedrprice6532 Před 6 měsíci

    Great review. I'm running on a C1 Xbox x. I've noticed a little bit of the same but it's still a gorgeous game

  • @carpetfluff35
    @carpetfluff35 Před 6 měsíci

    I might have been tempted with the quality mode if the motion blur were better, but I've stuck to performance and I'm pretty happy with it in most cases.

  • @AnalogFoundry
    @AnalogFoundry Před 6 měsíci +16

    Tom delivers once again!

  • @vasilnaumov
    @vasilnaumov Před 6 měsíci +63

    The fact that the Series S costs 250$ rn with discount and can run games like this is crazy!

    • @volcalstone
      @volcalstone Před 6 měsíci +5

      Yes and the XSX now at $350 is even crazier! Keep in mind that it's also a UHD player so it's a steal for that price if you ask me. I got both the S and X along with a Panny B820 which alone is around $400-$500.

    • @amnril
      @amnril Před 6 měsíci +5

      Indeed it is but tbh I’d rather pay a little more for the better versions from the more powerful consoles.

    • @CheckmateStallioN
      @CheckmateStallioN Před 6 měsíci +3

      When it can run games like this at 20 fps 720p I wouldn't call that crazy

    • @cud0s
      @cud0s Před 6 měsíci +1

      "runs"

    • @CJW0056
      @CJW0056 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Now compare that to the cost of any single PC component, the performance per dollar of consoles is insane.

  • @stevenesbitt3528
    @stevenesbitt3528 Před 6 měsíci +4

    This is so useful when it come to taking a chance on this game. I get so little time to game, this is invaluable ❤

  • @mazzyycat
    @mazzyycat Před 6 měsíci +4

    The bit rates on CZcams these days are sooo bad you basically need to use the 4k mode unless you want crazy amounts artifacts.

  • @marrsil
    @marrsil Před 6 měsíci +3

    I wish you would have touched the 2nd large area. I play on PC with a 4070 and had no issues at all in the jungle running with DLSS Quality at 1440p and ultra settings. As soon as reaching the great plains my fps fell of a cliff. Instead of 60-80 I dropped down to 40 at times. I switched to FSR3 with frame gen and reduce some shadow settings to stay above 60 fps. I would expect the consoles will struggle even more in that area.

  • @lukeo5908
    @lukeo5908 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Love Thom’s videos!

  • @dcthug
    @dcthug Před 6 měsíci +1

    Excellent. Been waiting on this 👍🏾

  • @PotbellyPunch
    @PotbellyPunch Před 6 měsíci +1

    I had seen comments from people on some other reviews that later in the game series s was running into major framerate problems but idk if that was an early patch

  • @dutchguy1807
    @dutchguy1807 Před 6 měsíci +59

    I am about 10 hours in so far on my Series S and it looks beautiful. They truly delivered next gen features on all consoles. Gameplay is fun too, especially when you unlock your ikran.

    • @MamaSymphonia
      @MamaSymphonia Před 6 měsíci +6

      I can't believe how close the Series S version looks to the others. They did a great job.

    • @joefawley9264
      @joefawley9264 Před 6 měsíci +2

      You call this next Gen!?

    • @dutchguy1807
      @dutchguy1807 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@MamaSymphonia Exactly, its also very impressive they retain both ray traced GI and reflections on Series S while a lot of developers skip ray tracing all together on the S.

    • @nathanpayne9205
      @nathanpayne9205 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I've personally played it on both Series S and PS5 - while the PS5 obviously does look better, it's unbelievable to me how amazing this game looks on the little Series S as well. Just an absolutely phenomenal job all around.

    • @joefawley9264
      @joefawley9264 Před 6 měsíci

      @@nathanpayne9205 i don't think it looks that great on PS5 either

  • @GraveUypo
    @GraveUypo Před 6 měsíci +6

    i wish you'd do this for portable pcs (steam deck clones) too.

  • @jeffcarrier9808
    @jeffcarrier9808 Před 6 měsíci +1

    LOVE this game. The exploration, gathering, crafting, etc are all so satisfying! I'm having a blast and I can't even fly yet!

  • @nikc1313
    @nikc1313 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have a VRR oled display and the game looks great on PS5 and for the most part feels pretty smooth however it seems to drop out if the VRR range a little too often during intense fire fights which makes it a little jarring. Hopefully a patch cleans this up then it'll be perfect. Feel too many games rely on VRR cleaning up their performance modes.

  • @NeOmega83
    @NeOmega83 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Gonna play in quality mode. Stable framerate is king.

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou Před 6 měsíci +69

    Looks like it could do with a 40fps mode.

    • @craig71686
      @craig71686 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Definitely. Every game should include a 40fps mode with how the consoles are handling new games now.

    • @CheckmateStallioN
      @CheckmateStallioN Před 6 měsíci +1

      40 fps is barely playable even with VRR which reprojects the frames and in the process creates a burry image in motion. VRR might give you the illusion of smoother performance when in reality adds a shitload of blur effects and reprojection hiding the jittery frames but adding a ton of artifacts and blur which defeats the whole purpose. It barely feels smoother than 30 fps. A 10 fps difference is marginal. Both 30 and 40 feel choppy AF. Either 60 fps or GTFO

    • @paul1979uk2000
      @paul1979uk2000 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@CheckmateStallioN I tested it out on the PC with VRR on an LG display, 40fps isn't that great, but 45fps feels very much like 60fps to me, it's remarkable how much of a difference that extra 5fps is actually doing to my eyes.
      With that said, you can get away with 40fps on smaller displays like the Steam Deck, but on bigger displays, 45fps or above is more ideal.

    • @mohthesage7673
      @mohthesage7673 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@CheckmateStallioN limiting fps at 40 is half the answer, it has to be at 120hz , 160hz and so on , so it displays evenly with consistent frame times.

    • @craig71686
      @craig71686 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@mohthesage7673 yeah the 40fps mode on console games only unlocks with a screen 120hz or higher.

  • @yaabaa8756
    @yaabaa8756 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Both Ray tracing ref and gi are enabled in performance mode?

  • @enthusiasticgamer88
    @enthusiasticgamer88 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Preordered this as I enjoy Far Cry / most Ubi games and love the Avatar films, I was not disappointed. Very fun game.

  • @4tech69
    @4tech69 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I'll wait from some further performance patches but It looks very good and seems pretty interesting overall.

    • @ultrag33k52
      @ultrag33k52 Před 6 měsíci

      If you have a VRR TV it's fine, the performance is incredibly smooth. TBH when they made the game I think they were expecting/hoping most have this feature (it has to be forced on via the PS5 system settings for this title though bizarrely before it's activated. On Xbox it activates naturally fine).

    • @alexandrebelair4360
      @alexandrebelair4360 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ultrag33k52 The vast majority of people doesn't have a VRR TV

  • @djp1234
    @djp1234 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Snowdrop engine has built in VR support. I hope someone makes a VR mod for this soon.

    • @CheckmateStallioN
      @CheckmateStallioN Před 6 měsíci +1

      VR mods are garbage and come with a ton of bugs not to mention bad performance. They dont even compare to official VR support

    • @djp1234
      @djp1234 Před 6 měsíci

      @@CheckmateStallioN yeah, but it's all we have, since the developers are too blind to see the demand for it

    • @CheckmateStallioN
      @CheckmateStallioN Před 6 měsíci

      @@djp1234 one of the few games that got a decent VR mod was Ghostrunner. So at this point time will tell

    • @djp1234
      @djp1234 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@CheckmateStallioN my favorite so far is the Luke Ross mod for Cyberpunk 2077. I could live in that game.

  • @lesserlogic9977
    @lesserlogic9977 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I'm fairly impressed with how this turned out on series s which I normally am not. If I had boughten the system this would be worth a play

  • @cursedfishtanx9087
    @cursedfishtanx9087 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I rarely play games on quality mode but as soon as I stepped out of the tunnel of the RDA facility I switched to quality mode and haven't switched back. This game visual spectacle is definitely worth the lower FPS, albeit with motion blur on.

    • @Nucleosynthese
      @Nucleosynthese Před 6 měsíci

      Maybe try the PC version then. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯

    • @alexandrebelair4360
      @alexandrebelair4360 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@Nucleosynthese Why do you copy and paste your comment everywhere?

  • @ghostsoda7710
    @ghostsoda7710 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Snowdrop engine is beautiful . Division 1&2 looks this beautiful to me

  • @djayjp
    @djayjp Před 6 měsíci +3

    It's missing bidirectional light transmission through the leaves, hence they look rather opaque. UE has that.

  • @angryjoe98
    @angryjoe98 Před 6 měsíci +1

    One thing I really like is how alive everything feels there bugs and little lizards things and birds everywhere its really cool.

  • @Armadyz
    @Armadyz Před 6 měsíci

    Great video, Tom

  • @arronstone177
    @arronstone177 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I’m playing at the moment and loving it. I think it has more in common with the Horizon games than Far Cry.
    Unfortunately I’ve got stuck with a bug on The Missing Hunter quest so I can’t carry on with the story until it’s fixed.

    • @DuckAlertBeats
      @DuckAlertBeats Před 6 měsíci +4

      :(
      Really? Not a fan of Far Cry games but... Those Horizon games are the most tedious things I can remember playing tbh

    • @BlackEagle352
      @BlackEagle352 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Tedious? Damn, mobile gaming for you then.

    • @dnishimura
      @dnishimura Před 6 měsíci

      @arronstone177 I had a bug where the NCP didn't spawn, but reloading the save fixed it.

    • @SimonBuchanNz
      @SimonBuchanNz Před 6 měsíci +1

      I was pretty bored by Horizon overall but this game is weirdly amazing!
      It's not for everyone, the dumb ass overly sincere story and difficult to navigate world early on especially; but the combat, stealth, movement, crafting etc, all feels so much more thoughtful than any of the other open world games I've played, all of them pushing you to engage with the world they've built rather than just repeating the same thing that works until the next thing unlocks.
      It's upsetting that Avatar of all properties gets the technically and mechanically great game.

    • @DuckAlertBeats
      @DuckAlertBeats Před 6 měsíci

      @@BlackEagle352 mobile games?!?? Hardly. You're a million miles off there

  • @WiseGuy3683
    @WiseGuy3683 Před 6 měsíci +5

    This game is breathtaking. They did a fantastic job on this one.

  • @CodyHimselfXI
    @CodyHimselfXI Před 6 měsíci +1

    Woo hoo! A review by Thomas! This game looks amazing too

  • @entertainmentwizard2703
    @entertainmentwizard2703 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video!

  • @Torso6131
    @Torso6131 Před 6 měsíci +3

    It really is an astonishing-looking game. I've been playing on PC and it just looks fantastic, even with a 6700xt. Just had to figure out that the game defaulted to a weird refresh rate (well, 120hz seems normal, but 119.84 was the correct, and available option) and switching to that removed any stuttering I had. All in all I'm absolutely amazed the resolution the consoles are pushing here too.
    Oh, and it's pretty fun to boot, even as someone who has zero interest in the movies after seeing the first one in theaters.

  • @Crimsongz
    @Crimsongz Před 6 měsíci +5

    Sub 1080p lmao ! Next-gen right ?

  • @azzimaz
    @azzimaz Před 6 měsíci +1

    I hv an LG C1 55 inch Oled looker. Gonna stick to Quality mode all the way for best and most highest possible immersion on PS5 😍 Mostly a stealth player anyways in Farcry style games which this pretty much is with Avatar skin. Might as well enjoy the best possible optimization available on my machine 😍😍 Will switch to easily enjoy VRR enabled Performance mode for Platinum trophy mop ups.

  • @DenDGLegionhardhouse
    @DenDGLegionhardhouse Před 6 měsíci +2

    Snowdrop really amazed me in terms of quality and capability running the game on console. On my high end pc its just a graphical masterpiece. Game is good and they did an amazing job!

  • @djayjp
    @djayjp Před 6 měsíci +5

    Can't wait for 40 & 60fps being standard.

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp Před 6 měsíci

      @SilverSurfer-mg6ti I think for single player 60 is fine. For slower paced single player stuff 40fps is also fine. But yeah with AMD's Frame Gen tech, 120fps converted from 60 should be totally feasible.

    • @AKSBSU
      @AKSBSU Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@djayjp A ton of recent games have microstutter. That is the biggest thing I hope it fixes or at least dramatically reduces.

  • @iseptimus
    @iseptimus Před 6 měsíci +6

    This runs at 70-80fps @ 1440 on my X13 Flow and mobile 3080 with full ultra settings. Such a well optimised engine.

    • @silverwerewolf975
      @silverwerewolf975 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Mmmm in benchs i saw much lower fps

    • @born2serve92
      @born2serve92 Před 6 měsíci

      yeahhh I dont keep 80 fps on ultra and I am on a desktop 4070ti...@@silverwerewolf975

  • @Electropylon
    @Electropylon Před 6 měsíci +1

    @UbisoftMassiveEntertainment: Feature Request: Please add a separate 40 fps (quality) mode for 120 Hz displays (as done in Horizon Forbidden West, Hogwarts Legacy, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, and Spider-Man games). With the 30 fps mode having stable performance, hopefully such a 40 fps mode won't require too many cutbacks in quality and resolution.

  • @WH250398
    @WH250398 Před 6 měsíci

    Can the crosshairs be centered? I absolutely hate when the crosshairs are low on the screen.

  • @themaster20484
    @themaster20484 Před 6 měsíci +3

    @all devs give us 40 fps option in every game. Like Spiderman or ratched.
    Quality 40fps Mode ❤

  • @morganbrown392
    @morganbrown392 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Sounds like this game needs a couple of updates before I purchase it. Either way, it’s on my radar.

  • @TMWriting
    @TMWriting Před 6 měsíci

    Was that flickering on the static ground just a bug messing with the rendering? (A literal bug-animal in the game, I mean.)

  • @Leeki85
    @Leeki85 Před 6 měsíci +2

    This game shows how important custom game engines are. Snowdrop is developed by the same team who makes games using it. Every feature game developers need can be implemented in the core of the engine.
    To take full advantage of the hardware we need a close cooperation between low-level engine programmers, game designers and artists.
    To achieve RT in 60 FPS at 1080+ resolution with such high quality assets, a specialized workflow has to be maintained.
    This is almost impossible to achieve with Unity3D or Unreal Engine 5. Only most experienced teams are able to achieve similar results with general engines. However it takes so much effort that in-house engine would be a better choice anyway.

    • @ThisIsEssKah
      @ThisIsEssKah Před 6 měsíci

      Similar to the horizon games and Guerilla‘s own engine.

  • @piensluc7444
    @piensluc7444 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Series X with VRR on is the winner here ! On my LG C1 65inch its georgeous !

  • @Ralexxanderr
    @Ralexxanderr Před 6 měsíci +6

    Definitely has more of a Crysis feel than it does Far Cry. Glad I’m not the only one thinking that. I’ve been playing this game non stop on PS5 in Performance mode with a 120Hz 2.1 monitor and it’s breathtakingly beautiful. I wish Photo Mode was a bit more fleshed out though.

  • @yewtewbstew547
    @yewtewbstew547 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Motion blur optional and FOV slider on console? Good game dev, have a treat.

  • @frostyone182
    @frostyone182 Před 6 měsíci +1

    60fps is a must. The thing about Quality modes, even 40fps modes, is that they only look better when you’re standing still. Moving the camera and getting that stuttering ruins the image. I can’t imagine caring so much about a sharper still image, to where I’d be willing to give up such smoother gameplay.

  • @Tom-hd4cq
    @Tom-hd4cq Před 6 měsíci +5

    The best release this year and it's December...
    It looks perfect, it works nearly perfect and the open world and the atmosphere is a most wanted for all Avatar fans.

  • @TheMjolksMinecraft
    @TheMjolksMinecraft Před 6 měsíci +3

    I don't care what people say, this is my personal GOTY and one of my favorite games I've ever played.

    • @MetalDeathHead
      @MetalDeathHead Před 6 měsíci +1

      🤣

    • @gdbjrsghyrfvbht1237
      @gdbjrsghyrfvbht1237 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@MetalDeathHeadyou can't afford it

    • @ip96.7.21
      @ip96.7.21 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@gdbjrsghyrfvbht1237you sure showed him with that comment. He'll never recover from that, good one. Well done

  • @balazsmiklos9509
    @balazsmiklos9509 Před 6 měsíci +1

    im just wondering if 6000 series cards have afmf in beta driver, will afmf come to consoles? We are slowly going back to the prev gen resolutions, and we are half way in the generation.

    • @GarrettTobyC13
      @GarrettTobyC13 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Do you want better looking graphics or higher frame rates. You are on a console you can’t have both.

    • @Mopantsu
      @Mopantsu Před 6 měsíci

      @@GarrettTobyC13 afmf does not increase framerate it just adds fake frames to create the illusion of smoothness like motion interpolation on TV's but better as it uses in engine algorithms to calculate the in between frames.

    • @balazsmiklos9509
      @balazsmiklos9509 Před 6 měsíci

      @@GarrettTobyC13 quality mode with afmf would be nice

  • @patrikmiskovic791
    @patrikmiskovic791 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you amd for making this game runs great and looks great on PC and console.

  • @MetroidFREAK21
    @MetroidFREAK21 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Getting this for Christmas and I'm so ready for it... on PS5

  • @H.E.M.
    @H.E.M. Před 6 měsíci +3

    We need pro consoles. No way gta 6 will be 60fps on console. It’ll be 1440p 30fps at this rate. Idk how games look only slightly better than they did last gen and yet run hella worse. 800p in 2023 is crazy.

  • @MelissaAtwell
    @MelissaAtwell Před 6 měsíci +1

    @Digital Foundry : Thanks for your detailed comparison. For future comparisons, would love for you to at least briefly mention any DualSense controller benefits. Great work as always!

  • @mrbobo86
    @mrbobo86 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I thought for sure this would have performance issues on launch. I am very impressed.

  • @Daniel189HLL
    @Daniel189HLL Před 6 měsíci +3

    40 fps mode would be lovely

  • @WholesomePotato1
    @WholesomePotato1 Před 6 měsíci +3

    So the performance mode has motion blur locked out? Why is that? Does it also disable per-object blur? I've never seen anything like this before. 60fps benefits from camera blur as well.. It's not that high of a frame-rate. Also the shutter speed is too short in a 30fps mode, it makes it seem even choppier.
    Other than that the game looks great on consoles, too. Great work, Tom! 🙂

    • @AnalogFoundry
      @AnalogFoundry Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah, it should've been optional like in most other games regardless of the mode.

    • @Jolipolie
      @Jolipolie Před 6 měsíci

      I noticed that performance mode had motion blur off by default but I was able to turn it on after a restart

  • @fabianoperes2155
    @fabianoperes2155 Před 6 měsíci

    12:00 this must be due to small particles in the air or little bugs flying around.
    Then, the image needs to be reconstructed on those points.

  • @fortunefiderikumo
    @fortunefiderikumo Před 6 měsíci

    wow the FSR breakup fizzle is egregious in this

  • @geekosa63
    @geekosa63 Před 6 měsíci +3

    IMO the water reflections are very bad on console version in perf mode :/

    • @destroyermcw626
      @destroyermcw626 Před 6 měsíci

      Vaseline!!!!! But I think I’ll go with Quality mode more

  • @Mopantsu
    @Mopantsu Před 6 měsíci +10

    The PS5 Pro can't come soon enough.

    • @piensluc7444
      @piensluc7444 Před 6 měsíci +2

      nope its gonna change nothing ...only good for charching the price up between 650 and 700 bucks for the ps5 pro with just whistles and belles and numbers but the core of the console will remain the same look at the leakes....will wait for the PS6 in 2026.

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@piensluc7444lmao enjoy your series S

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@piensluc7444isnt the ps6 coming in 2028?

    • @piensluc7444
      @piensluc7444 Před 6 měsíci

      @@dusermiginte4647 - Yes in 2028 than we will see games running at 60fps...the ps5 pro next year will not playing automaticaly 60fps you will see most of the games will still be 30 fps !!

    • @dusermiginte4647
      @dusermiginte4647 Před 6 měsíci

      @@piensluc7444 most games on Series X running 60fps and many running at 120fps..

  • @aaronborg9102
    @aaronborg9102 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Anything regarding the raised Black Levels ?

  • @hassosigbjoernson5738
    @hassosigbjoernson5738 Před 6 měsíci

    I wonder how minor the difference between Series X and S is, *when you use an older 1080p display for Series S* (kinda like you supposed to with this smaller machine).
    Is it good enough? Since I use that console on an older, second 1080p TV I always wonder if I would see the difference from XSX to XSS or if the internal resolution from XSX wouldn't make a difference anymore.

    • @BurritoKingdom
      @BurritoKingdom Před 6 měsíci

      It'll run in the internal resolution and down scale to 1080p, that's what all xboxs have done since the 360. So if you play on the X in quality mode on a 1080p tv, all the textures, effects and everything will look better than the S version. And as Tom mentioned even in performance mode the game still looks better than the S version. Since the S version resolution scales between 720p and 1080p, while the X's performance mode is between 864p and 1260p.
      And it's noticeable. It's like how CZcams premium members get a better 1080p resolution than non--members since it's a higher but rate.

  • @TheChillDeadpool
    @TheChillDeadpool Před 6 měsíci +2

    Literally the only thing that upsets me is the fact none of the Na’vi fight or anything else with you

  • @oppa1319
    @oppa1319 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Would love a 40fps mode.

  • @nekoblackout
    @nekoblackout Před 6 měsíci

    Wil we get PC optimised Settings for Avatar ?

  • @born2serve92
    @born2serve92 Před 6 měsíci

    Playing this on PC and sadly a quest locked on me. (the item is in the ground... I can see part of it) but my god it looks good on PC. This and alan wake 2 make me feel much better for spending so much on GPUs. Glad everyone gets a really good experience.

  • @E_Sunbro
    @E_Sunbro Před 6 měsíci +4

    I’m having a great time on PC. My only real complaint is that it’s not on Steam.

    • @XZ-III
      @XZ-III Před 6 měsíci +1

      seems like a small complaint, the game is still the game steam or epic, i hate steams' dumb ass posts even in the library tab

    • @dnishimura
      @dnishimura Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@XZ-III for me it's more a matter of convenience to have all games in one place. That said, I don't really care where the game is, as long as I can play it. Battle Net and Steam are always open on my pc, and I open the others when I need them. Not a big deal imo.

  • @Mat-sf7we
    @Mat-sf7we Před 6 měsíci +6

    Really had someone on another video trying to tell me the graphics in this game weren't anything special and that it looks no better than far cry. I swear so many gamers nowadays are just spoiled and blind. This game looks absolutely incredible, every time I play it I find myself just stopping in places and just looking at the scenery.

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd Před 6 měsíci +3

      It's social media rewarding negative comments.

  • @carlharrison3637
    @carlharrison3637 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hope there'll be an FSR3 patch for this beauty

  • @rvnx
    @rvnx Před 6 měsíci

    Snowdrop is such a powerful engine. Whether it be this game, The Division or the Rabbids games on the Switch, it's nuts to see the visuals it can deliver.

    • @geminijinxies7258
      @geminijinxies7258 Před 6 měsíci

      In a perfect world Snowdrop would've replaced Unreal Engine.