Trump Supporters Are BAFFLED By The Constitution
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The threat of Christian Nationalism looms large as MAGA Republicans try desperately to erode the separation of church and state. However, it seems like a lot of the Americans who claim to be Christian Nationalists have no idea what it would mean for the country. The Damage Report's John Iadarola breaks it down.
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Word salads, complete nonsense. No wonder they all like Trump.
Not a Christian nation , it is a Nation free from religious persecution
@@roarsenal6217 " free from religious prosecution "
and my genius when that liberation happened???.????
@@roarsenal6217 It’s supposed to be but the current interpretation of our constitution prevents that. And how is it separated when an evangelical is related to one political party for those beliefs.
@@roarsenal6217 I agree!
God gave us free will. He did this for a reason. When someone tries to force their beliefs on another, they're trying to steal the gift God gave that person.
A lot of times people delude themselves into believing they're doing God's work. But how can they be doing God's work, when all they're really doing, is stealing the gift God gave others?
But explaining this to the Trump MAGA supporters would just go over their uneducated heads. Their brand of Christian is not mine.
@@deweyplanck9850 Yes. And thank goodness! The Constitution is the greatest. Religious freedom is a liberty that is protected. God gave us free will. (Read the Bible). And doesn’t want people being forced to believe in him. But to come freely.
@@MM-xh6dp I’m all for the separation clause. I was just saying if you live in a predominantly Christian with a constitution that is based on Christian doctrine when we elect our senators and they decide on those laws having a basic concept of right and wrong that is Christian based they are not supposed to just ignore those concepts because of the separation clause. It is there to avoid having state sponsored religion like Henry the eight had set up. It isn’t and should not separate from the religious influence of anyone or all of them. That would be telling the senators to ignore their basic concepts of right and wrong when making laws.
They don’t read their own bible. You expect them to read the constitution?
You see, you asked them to read, now that’s something most of them can’t do…
@@thattheatrenerd1418 sad but MAGA at its truth
every time someone says "This is a Christian nation" I cringe for the founding fathers, literally everything they worked for just goes over these smooth brains.
Fun Fact. This is not a Christian nation. This is a nation where you are free to be Christian. Is it that hard to understand?
lol, we’re a WASP nation first and foremost, dont argue in bad faith and deny it
@@richardlundberg1862 most of the founding fathers were deist not Christian
@@richardlundberg1862 most of the founding fathers were deists not Christians
@@Steelsteed58 " most of the founding fathers where deist "
deists belive in supreme being who created universe and humans
so ???
didn't you know that ?
@@nauticalmiles8752, considering that’s the literal definition, probably they did. Your point? You think Christianity is the only religion that has a “creator being” in it?
I’m tired of the church thinking that they have a monopoly on morals and human decency! We don’t need to lean on religion in order to learn how to treat one another.
In fact, the more they act like they have a monopoly, the more the quality of their morals and values go down hill. Just like any monopoly! When you have (or think you have) no competition the quality of your products and services go down while the price for them goes up!
@@OpenBiolabsGuy that’s an excellent point; I’ve never thought of it in quite that way.
They are telling on themselves. A religious person saying that the only reason they are nice is because of fear of hell, is like when they admit that if they see a gay man it makes them want to be gay too.
@@TalentedLMT the kiddie fiddling church, that one?
Christian nationalists can send their kids to religious schools without forcing others to.
But then they want public dollars too
@@tombondcrispy6585 a bridge too far for me. Public education needs to be improved not harmed.
OR forcing OTHERS TO PAY FOR IT...
@@tombondcrispy6585 they pay taxes. Vouchers.
@@jaybryant5691, vouchers is government paying for religious schools. You want a Christian education? Teach your own kids. My parents did
These are the same people that want to eliminate The Department of Education.🙄😑🤦🏻♀️
@@mzliz1249 well of course, it certainly never did them any good 😂
None of these people have read either the constitution or the Bible they claim to believe in.
99.999% of the Trumpies that say " I believe in the Constitution" HAVE NEVER READ IT.
Of course they haven't. Ask one of them to quote it
@@csnide6702 agreed they always leave out the part in the 2nd amendment that states "in a WELL regulated malitia"
99.999% of the Trumpies - can't read
well, even those who had written it never actually understood what they were writing, given how they denied equal rights and freedoms to not just other ethnicities and religions, but also to their own women.
The constitution never was worth the paper it was written on, as pretty much everyone in the US ignored it since its creation.
And yet, 99.999% Biden/Harris voters haven't stated they've read it. Guess we're all screwed.
8 years of taking civics lessons from Trump rallies and Alex Jones podcasts has taken its toll.
They ignore both the Bible and the Constitution. Vote 💙💙💙💙💙💙
I don't think these people realize Jesus Christ was a Jew
The absolute cowardice to say he wants a Christian nation, but won’t look a Jewish man in the eye while doing it
@@coreyadonis419 king of the Jews, well said.
@@coreyadonis419 No he was not. How many times must it be said, JESUS CHRIST NEVER EXISTED
@@oldedwardian1778 Hmm... I guess whoever wrote the history of the Cruxification was having a good day? Does that sound MAGA Trump or what???
@@Presence4293 HMMMM! I have read your reply several times.
It must be that I am tired but I cannot make sense of it
Less government in schools? more church in schools? ... What they need is more education in schools
and by the looks of it A LOT of education...
"You're framing me!" he cries, while not being able to argue because it's literally what he believes but he doesn't want to say it to their face.
This country was founded by people who came here to escape religious persecution by their government. They did not want anyone to face that again. They codified the separation of Church and State in the US Constitution, so the government is prohibited from meddling in the church, and the church is prohibited from meddling in the government. This does not mean people of faith cannot be part of the government, and conduct themselves according to their morals and religious principals. However , they may NOT force others to practice their religion, be it Christianity, Islam, Judaism or any other, and laws must be made based upon the provisions written in the constitution, not upon religious rules. This is for the protection of freedom of religion for ALL citizens, not just Christians. If you wish to be a citizen of the United States of America, the Constitution is the rule-book with which you must comply.
Well said. People who want this to change are only for it if it is their religious beliefs that are to be touted. If another religion gets a majority do they want to be forced to observe that religion’s beliefs and practices.
@@cathys949 In fact, the Puritans who left England for America were persecutors. They hanged Quakers and had witch hunts. They didn't want to be persecuted, but had no problem persecuting others.
@@cathys949 unfortunately the Constitution does not prohibit religious organizations from trying to impose their will on the country. They can lose their 501-3c status for openly politicking, but it's rarely enforced. We really need laws that make religious brainwashing and cult-like mind control by churches major felonies. People don't realize that whole cities are being controlled by these churches. The New Apostolic Reformation controls Redding CA.
@@anthonywalker6276 so the victim became the victimizer....
They love their own ignorance more than anything.
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Most people have never read the Constitution, yet claim to be experts.
Same with the Bible...
I've gotten a few family members that were turning Christian nationalist to read the Constitution with me....
It's a positive family activity....
Whenever we get to article 6 paragraph 3 of the US Constitution.....
It sinks in.... I see the gears turn.....
Invite a "conservative" to read the Constitution with you today!!!!?
@mrpepperidgefarms I also found getting these parents involved in their schools help, too. So many of these same people complain that schools and teachers are indoctrinating their kidsand that books need to be banned. I've talked to some of these parents who participated in a 'Dad's in the Halls' program or in book clubs created to read the books for themselves. It opened their eyes to reality. I'm going to add reading the Constitution, too.
@@mrpepperidgefarms As a historian and teacher, I have read it over and over. I even have a copy in my bag.
@@Eniral441
Make civics standard curriculum again
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Only secularism (separation of state and religion) will guarantee freedom of religion and equality for all the citizens.
I think the phrase "You can only have freedom of religion when you have freedom from religion" applies here. The issue is a lot of these religious people are fine with religion making dictates... provided it is the religion they believe.
Name a country that was better off after it went from a secular form of government to a religious form of government. I'll wait.
We literally fled England so nobody was forced to be the same religion. We are not a Christian nation and the founding fathers would be rolling in their graves listening to this
@GeFanAldrigUpp who's business is the op getting in exactly?
@@Sandy-oe5mh Amen! Agreed
It’s not fair to get into a battle of wits with the unarmed.
These people have no specifics, just rambling nonsense😮
i've always pictured it like they have a "direction" while most people have "positions". what i mean is i'll mostly have the same stance on something no matter if you come at me from the right of the left. thats a "position".
maga people in particular have a "direction" meaning they'll support anything as long as it moves the needle in their preferred direction. there is nothing they will consider "too far" and thats what makes them dangerous.
Typical right-wing religious cherry-picking. They cherry-pick the Bible and now the Constitution. Bottom line..... I will do as I please but, I will try to control what you do. I got some bad news for these hypocrites.
The founding fathers fought for religious freedom and the separation of church and state. In fact, God, Jesus Christ, and Christianity are not stated once in all of the Constitution, and it is clearly done so on purpose.
There's nothing worse than government forced religion.
"They all bowed & prayed to the orange god they made" 🙄
".....and the sign flashed its warning
In the words that it was forming..."
Seems to me that many members of humanity can neither read, comprehend, nor heed the warnings or signs ... of fascism, dictatorship, and censureship. When people show you who they are, BELIEVE them the first time.
@@surquhart64 see, your problem is you think they don't see it. the truth is they see it and want it knowing full well how much harm it will unleash.
once you accept that then all their rhetoric starts to make more sense.
I am always in awe of the people who wrote the constitution. They were so informed that they knew how religion could corrupt the United States
Truly. Could you imagine a group of intelligent men, meeting, discussing, planning a path for a better future? Amazing.
The thing is, the people who wrote the constitution were religious. They just didn't want the state to become what they had fled from.
@@maryziggy8802 I don’t believe in any religion I know of, but it’s obvious that a nation without a unifying doctrine would fail also. You can say that religion is evil but so is government in general. But if we did away with ours we would be ruled by someone who didn’t throw theirs away. There are necessary evils in the world. And most of the evil that ever existed stemmed from indifference not hate.
@@maryziggy8802 One thing acutely on their minds was the devine right of kings by which they had grown tired of being oppressed. These were, no doubt, some of the most intelligent and best educated men in the thirteen colonies. There were autodidacts, physicians, and accomplished lawyers. Many of them were well versed in history and knew of the strife caused by religious conflict. Many had read Plato and Cicero in the original Greek and Latin. Many had read Locke and Rousseau. In the whole and despite the knowledge gained in the interval since they lived, they were far more intelligent and better educated than most of the dummkopfs in Congress nowadays.
When i was little and learned that people who dont believe in Christian God will spend an i n f i n i t y suffering....I stopped believing in such a cruel god. I was 12.
ah yes, the classic and timeless religion of "German"
I had to go back and listen again because I though I heard it wrong 😂
Too bad these people only know part of the Constitution - the parts they agree with.
The ignorance is astonishing!
ignorance is a lack of understanding. both sides of this argument is a demonstration of ignorance.
I’m shocked they can even read a children’s book let alone The Constitution!
Wait a sec, doesn't Boebert wear a cross necklace to congress so what's the difference between that and what Omar does?
My 8th graders made it through the Constitution and understood a heck of a lot more about it than these voting adults. To be so relentlessly wrong and ignorant about it is inexcusable . It’s not a long document.
because 8th graders don't have so much power to gain by intentionally misunderstanding the constitution
Your average Canadian knows the US constitution better than maga
You don’t have to be religious to be a good person
"More church in our schools" is explicitly against the first amendment. How about more education in your schools and leave church in your church. Christianity must be an option, not an obligation.
I know more about the US Constitution than Trump supporters, and I've only read it once.
These people are able to hold two complete opposite opinions at the same time and run with it. And then they vote 🤦🏻
Yeah, it's disheartening to see these Christians being so mean to people who are different.
Religion should have nothing to do with government.
did USA Government force Native children to christian schools?
Get bent, Wade. Stop spamming your BS. You have nothing constructive to say.
@@angelikaopland7880 wade is gonna be so butthurt when we steal his kids and make them satanists. he won't have a single moment of self reflection though.
"You're framing me!"
My brother, it's your own belief system.
It's wild how common that sort of response is. They've never considered the implications of their own beliefs, and when confronted with them, they can't accept "maybe I don't believe that", so it must be that somehow you've pulled some sort of trick.
Or, they know their beliefs aren't acceptable, so they just refuse to state them outright. I think which it is depends on the person.
If they had actually thought about their beliefs, they could refute what they see as a false conclusion. If they were honest, they could at least admit they don't know why that's wrong and try to reason through it. But instead, they insist you've somehow tricked them, by asking them what they believe.
Does the bible not also say don't worship false idols ( like maga does with Trump)
Christians don’t read the Bible lol
Well this is America and the American government, nor Anyone, is forcing Trump supporters to live in a democracy. They can leave at any time 💙🇺🇸
I'd be willing to bet most Trump supporters are baffled by "sit", "fetch" and "who's a good boy?"
😂. Here's a biscuit.
Treaty of Tripoli. Article 11 of the treaty stated: “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"
Please, im British and even i know this.
The treaty of Tripoli is the document of the United States constitution was built on.
So a treaty with a gang of pirates "is the document the United States Constitution was built on"? Glad to see British education sucks just as badly as American education.
The US Constitution was ratified on June 21, 1788 (for the Brits in the room that means that it was written, published, distributed, and enough states had signed off on it that it because the official law of the land). The "Treaty of Tripoli" was signed November 4, 1796, more than 8 years later. So it's kind of hard to make any reasonable argument that the US Constitution was "built on" the Treaty of Tripoli.
@@johnbrobston1334 Oh dear!
According to the Constitution, treaties have equal standing and force the same as the Constitution. So while the op got his order wrong, it still has the same standing.
@@NorthernSeaWitch So the US is not a Christian nation. How is that treaty binding on the States?
Tax the churches!!
God will move to the caymans
They are businesses anyway. And they absolutely shouldn't have any tax exemptions if they actively engage in politics. Many churches are glorified lobbying groups.
Hillbillies are so entertaining to watch and so very scary at the same time.
Their rabbit holes run deep.
No church and state . No project 25 forever! Vote blue people vote blue 💙
I will never forget, as a Jew moved to Arkansas, when a classmate said to me,"....you're so nice, I'm so sorry you're going to Hell."
This is why the founding fathers pushed for a DIVISION of Church and State.
Which religion would rule?
Yours, mine or theirs?
Listening to these interviews is like talking to a drunk at a bar
church and state separation is important BECAUSE the founding fathers did not want religion to rules, thats part of the reason they fought against england ruling the united states
When someone starts with 'I'm a Christian' expect BS to follow.
White, and Native born.
That is impossible.
when you ask christians if someone is going to hell they always immediately deflect
Your answer is yes
They’re wearing their red hats too tight - cutting off the blood flow and blocking synapses
Not a single one of these people practice a single thing that Jesus ever taught.
You can see the moment the cognitive dissonance boots up
If Boebert is tired of the separation between church and state, there's a simple solution. She should resign from her position and pick another to country to join as a citizen that has no such division.
I don't think there's any separation of church and state in Afghanistan. She should try there. Lowrent Gropert probably won't do well, but it would be interesting to see her try
You can believe what ever you want but dont force your beliefs on others,it is only a belief
Even Christ was for separation of church and state. When questioned about a law that was against church teachings, Christ responded, " obey the laws of man and obey the laws of God. Meaning, if the law of man contradicts the laws of god, you should simply obey the laws of god and leave the laws of man alone
"I've been awake for a few years now"....so...you're woke?
sleep deprivation does some crazy things
Civics should be a requirement in all high schools.
Maybe even some religious history; WHY we have separation of church & state here. These gomers wouldn't like THAT very much at all.
it is, but "no child left behind" and all that.
Not living in USA, I now see how your country is in a downwards spiral when you have religious bigots with those answers.
Cult 101
They don't understand what separation of church and state means. They think it means they can't practice their religion if they are a public official. That's not true. If they had any kind of education they would know wearing a religious symbol is protected. What they can't do is force someone else to practice their religion. They can't preach their religion in public schools. A teacher can have a bible in their desk and read it on their break, but they can't use it to teach their class unless they are teaching a lesson on cultural influences or a religious class that teaches about all religions or something similar. They can't promote their religion in public schools. Congress cannot make laws that establish a religion. But if Boebert wanted to become a Pastafarian and wear a sieve on her head as her religious symbol during congressional sessions, nobody would stop her.
"they can't teach their religion in public schools" ok explain the states that are making it mandatory to teach religion and have scripture displayed
It "scary" to think that people are this
'stupid '..!
IT’S NOT SCARY, IT’S A CRIME
Didn’t know German was a religion
Constitution does not mention Christianity
Only Christians get their panties in a twist about the phrase "Congress shall make no laws on establishment of religion"
Ir always comes down to this: "Only my group should have authority and rights".
This is why I haven't come out to my family as an atheist.
Wasn't Jesus Jewish?
Thankfully America isn’t a Christian nation, if we were we’d have to replace the first amendment and sacrifice freedom of religion. The first amendment of the constitution wouldn’t mesh with how a Christian nationalist beliefs. I’m non denominational/agnostic theist, but i support everyone’s right to choose your faith if you want one. Organized religion is too stressful to navigate and there’s so many Christian sects that there isn’t one correct one. On top of that being Christian is about choosing to be not told by a church. Being atheist doesn’t make me respect anyone less, I care about a persons individuality not their faith. It’s about the choices you make not your faith that determines if you’re a good or bad person is how I see it and how I was taught by a pastor.
Amen! - and your pastor taught you well!
The first goober "fully believes in the Constitution", but he has no idea what's in it.
These people are too afraid to admit that REAL Christianity is almost indistinguishable from Socialism. They prefer to cherry-pick the bits that suit their politics.
According to the Bible, Christ views are 100% from what we call the left nowadays.
Christianity has his name on it, do you get that you're wrong?
@@thiago4santos I don't know which Bible you've been reading, but I'll bet you've never read it at all
@@nrellis666 The Bible has nothing political in its pages, other than “give to Caesar that which belongs to Caesar”. It is also not socialist, fascist, nor sexist or pro slavery or abortion. Anyone who says otherwise, does not know God.
@@nrellis666 oh really? Tell me the teachings of Jesus please.
@@danduntz2539 Help the poor? Feed the hungry? Care for those in need? All the things 'socialists' do and Republicans do not. I guess I was taking 'slaves obey your masters as you would obey [Yahweh]' out of context, please tell me the proper interpretation; and please explain how Numbers 5 DOESN'T describe how to induce an abortion.
It's hard when you realize Freedom of Religion gives people the right to practice all kinds of religions.
They haven’t read the Constitution and they haven’t read their Bible. They just have someone regurgitate an interpretation to them and accept it without thought. Who are you to make them think for themselves?
How do these people not realize that our ancestors came here,.fought and died to get away from religious persecution and to achieve separation of church and state.
“The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.” - John Adams
"The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy." - George Washington
They are the poorly educated white trash from Europe who think Jesus was white.
"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." --Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11, Ratified by Founding Father and U.S. PRESIDENT John Adams and approved unanimously by the Senate
"The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner or on any pretext infringed." --James Madison, Founding Father, U.S. PRESIDENT (1751 - 1836), First Federal Congress, Congressional Register, June 8, 1789
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own." --Thomas Jefferson, Founding Father, U.S. VICE PRESIDENT, U.S. GOVERNOR, GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL, DIPLOMAT, U.S. PRESIDENT (1743 - 1826), letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814
You want religion in your school? Go to a private school. Don't force your religion on my children in a PUBLIC school.
There's no doubt in my mind that not a single person at Trump rally can spell Constitution.
I don’t understand why one needs to worship a religion even more specifically Christianity to be a good person. From my perch I see that religion breeds hate more often than not.
Baha’i Faith says, “If religion becomes a cause of dislike, hatred and division, it were better to be without it, and to withdraw from such a religion would be a truly religious act.”
You’re absolutely right. By and large, religion is a tool for controlling people-humans naturally want to devote themselves to something, so it isn’t a coincidence that the big three religions all revolve around salvation and a messiah figure 🤷♀️
That being said, any religion can impart some good knowledge/morality but as we’ve seen this is a double edged sword
My father was Jewish. He's gone. My Mom was Irish Catholic, she's gone. We were raised Catholic. My confirmation teacher dragged me out of the class one night because I was fooling around , and sighting my last name, asked what was I doing there...! That's what I experienced. I believe in a higher power.. But you'll never get me to attend church. It's a very sad moment for America.. Thanks to Rush Limbagh and the Tea party for screwing things up..! I guess just less than 1/2 of America couldn't accept a Black President.. Divided we will fall.. Need to find common ground. But at this point, highly unlikely...😒
Biblically "church" just referred to people that belonged to God... not a building, religion, etc. You do... or you don't! 🙂 That's it...
They have a pot to piss in, but still manage to piss right next to it.
How many people don't understand that Christian does NOT make you a "good" person. Following Christ's BELIEFS makes you a good person, whether you're Christian or not. Hence, it's why the constitution separates the church from the state...
It blows my mind how these people will hug and say how important the 2nd amendment is SOOOOooo important but then can't or don't understand or know the 1st amendment.... You know the one the was written and considered more important than #2, after all it's #1 for a VERY SPECIFIC Reason!!!!
something to think about: they wrote the first amendment saying "Congress shall make no law...." but left open the possibility of other bodies passing laws like states or towns. the second amendment has much stronger wording with "the right of the people.... shall not be infringed" which leaves no room for infringements.
and for the record, "the people" in the second amendment are the same "the people" in the first, fourth, ninth, and tenth amendments.
Evangelicals can support Trump because they are not Christian either.
JUST TO BE CLEAR.............................................
The phrase "separation of church and state" doesn't appear in the US Constitution. However, the First Amendment's Establishment Clause states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". This is often interpreted to mean the Constitution requires the separation of church and state. The First Amendment also includes the Free Exercise Clause, which protects citizens' right to practice their religion as they choose.
The metaphor of a "wall of separation between church and state" originated in a letter from Thomas Jefferson. Chief Justice Morrison Waite first used the phrase in the 1878 case Reynolds v. United States. Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black also famously invoked the "wall" metaphor in Everson v. Board of Education.
The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, requires states to guarantee the First Amendment's rights, including the prohibition against establishing a religion.
Go read the 1st line of the First Amendment, it is the embodiment of separation of church and state and that there can NEVER be one "national religion".
They argue that the words "separation of church and state" aren't in the constitution and therefore the concept doesn't exist, but that's intellectually dishonest at best. All the language required to prevent the establishment of a single national religion IS explicitly in the constitution, and any attempt at entrenching Christianity into the government or anything supported by the government directly violates those principles written in the constitution.
@@Listening_Books12345 You are completely correct here. But realize, that the video started off with the interviewer saying that the constitution says there will be a separation of church and state... which it doesn't say. You'd think that in trying to gotcha someone, the interviewer would at least phrase the question accurately.
@@Listening_Books12345 You can't accuse somebody with no intellect of being "intellectually dishonest". They are "intellectually incapable", at best.
@@username7763 Sapient beings should be able to grasp paraphrasing; there is more than one way to say ANYTHING in English. It's great for poetry for this reason. Maybe too flexible for politics?
Church is like a private club for those who are interested, it should not be forced onto anyone who is not interested. Religion should not be in any government agency, school or otherwise.
They all speak gibberish.
Ah yes, German, my favorite religion.
I caught that too and was like WTF??
Nazi Germany were Christian Nationalist
lol no, they literally oppressed the christian churches and prosecuted countless catholics and protestants who took their bible serious, as the christian beliefs stood for someothing above the nation and proclaimed equality under god.
Catholic and protestant press, schools, and youth organizations were closed, property was confiscated, and about one-third of the christian clergy faced reprisals from authorities; Catholic lay leaders were among those murdered during the Night of the Long Knives.
You are in dire need of some education if you think that nazis were christians.
@@mikelayton3810 When Hitler wanted to segregate Germany, he looked to the Democrat's segregation and Jim Crow laws for his inspiration. If Hitler was American, he would have been a Democrat.
Not really but close enough
@@Franklin_Kirby Trump loves his uneducated cult. That and 2 dollars will buy you a small pack of tissues to cry into
@mikelayton3810 Actually, they weren't. But they were also a lot of things that Trump is nonetheless. Back when he ran before and served his term, people would point out out. The response was 'he is not killing millions of people.' They missed the point. Hitler and the Nazis did a lot between 1932 and 1941. Now that we can see and read Project 25 and Agenda 47, a lot more similarities have come to light.
As a European I find it peculiar how no European nation included a "separation of church and state" entry in any of our constitutions while the fledgling USA did, but then while we all managed to fend off every attempt by the church to interfere in government affairs the US somehow ended up allowing it, and even championing it.
The founders are over-mythologized but they did understand the flaws that can bring down a country, and they did write a decent system for ensuring a degree of balance and stability. 90% of people who talk about them the most though want to ignore all that (and several of them were a bit tyrannical themselves. The Alien and Sedition Acts basically abolished free speech for a time.
Krash: Just as a point of clarity, the US Constitution doesn't actually contain a guarantee of separation of church and state, that's a common misconception. What it actually says is "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion". In modern terms, that means a prohibition against government establishment an official state religion or denomination and then somehow punishing anyone who doesn't follow that religion or denomination.
@@jakefromstatefarm278 it is mentioned in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson talking about what is meant in the Constitution. He also called it a 'wall of seperation'
at the time of the US Constitution, Europe had just finished several hundred years of religious wars and divine rights of kings. They were hoping to avoid the same.
Ironically, the US government is more influenced by religion than some countries with state religions and monarchies, notably the UK.
Isn't people claiming Christian entitlement while having no knowledge of the Bible & failing to follow its tenets exactly like how Satan would act?
So they want America to be like Iran?
Of course they are going to make exceptions to parts of the Constitution. They do that all the time with their own religion when it comes to their moral conduct
They have no idea what they believe in.
The founding fathers were predominantly not Christian. Thomas Jefferson rewrote the Bible removing any signs of Jesus' divinity and James Madison was more a Unitarian believer. They mostly all believed in God, but specifically weren't Christian. Separation of church and state is critical. Remember that 'In God We Trust' on money and 'Under God' in the pledge of allegiance weren't there until the 1950s. E pluribus unum seems more fitting a phrase to stand on. I actually like nationalism and patriotism, but MAGA ruined the true meaning by pushing Christianity as their pillar and not just accepting freedom of religion.
thats the tip of maga iceberg.