7 Revolver Problems Everyone Should Know
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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2024
- If you're going to use a revolver, these are some things you need to know.
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When I started out in the gun business, revolvers were king. The Police carried S&W model 66's with model 60's as off duty. So many problems with bent ejector rods or ones that became unscrewed. Poor maintenance was a real big deal with crud under the star wheel that froze the guns up.Timing issues were huge. Thanks for the video.
But but but, revolvers are foolproof.
I am glad people are talking about this, but unfortunately it won't stop people from repeating the same old crap.
Revolvers are fool proof. Every example is people purposely wrecking their guns. Like driving your f150 like goddamn Mr Majestyk.
If you break it, it's gonna be broke. Is surprising how many of you morons fire $500 worth of ammo in your gun and never clean it. Yes, you need to change the fluids in your car, have your tires rotated, resurface your rotors, etc, etc. Maintain your shit.
@@Osprey1994 Just like how people will listen to fudds about shotguns as well. Yes pump actions are damn near bullet-proof, but you need a LOT of training time to use them reliably under stress.
@@alexwalker2582 didn’t everyone grow up running Ithaca 37’s and Remington 760’s in the woods chasing rabbits and deer???? (Sarcasm)
@@bobjohnson1633 Revolvers are not fool proof. Crap breaks on them and they are very susceptible to debris and dirt. They are high maintenance compared to the modern polymer pistols. I real;ly enjoy revolvers and their intricacy but I only have 60 years of shooting, selling and Instructing behind what I say so, I guess I don't know shit according to you.
Great video! im glad the revolver still gets some love. Only thing i'll add is for those getting stuck cases all the time, yes the cylinder is dirty but most of the time it's cause they have probably shot .38's and then shot .357 right after. 38 isnt as long as a 357 case so shooting a 38 leaves a little residue in the cylinder wall. When you shoot a 357 right after that, the 357 expands against the cylinder and that residue and that's how they get stuck.
Nontox ammo makes a big difference. Much less cleaning. Unfortunately I haven't seen any for revolvers on the shelves these past 2 years... 🙁
I've experienced that. The issue is rather moot for handloaders though.
I'm with Joe. Loading 38-level loads in 357 brass solves this problem. I don't load 38 Spec cases.
Lacquer sealed primers and case mouth ammo is much better stuff, if you should find a munitions assembler doing that.
I grew up with revolvers. Cleaning and lubing them after a range session was standard so I didn't see function issues related to dirt. I've carried on this tradition to my semiautos as well.
I did grow to appreciate the chemically treated gun cleaning cloths after I got my first stainless 357 (Ruger GP100).
Good diligence and reliable cleaning on your part, it takes discipline but you keep your revolver running good on the range, one thing I've learned is not to spend the least $ for ammunition, stay away from steel cased ammo like the Tulammo brand, which I bought because it was the bottom of the cheapest, but they shoot low and they smoke more than other ammo and they also are steel Casings, so they expand greater than brass casings, of more expensive but more reliable ammo, So when the Tulammo casings jam up, you gotta really punch out the casings or pull them out by hand or give the ejector ride a punch, so spend more cents per round per box for a better brand, and you'll have a better experience of shooting ur revolver with much fewer stuck casings, so stay away from steel casing rounds like Tulammo
Range session exactly. He’s basically saying don’t go on a hunting trip for multiple days and expect it to stay as clean as let’s say a glock.
Old revolver guy here. Bought my first S&W Model 15 in 1973, but was shooting revolvers for quite a while before that. One thing I've noticed in your video that you do is that, when you eject your empties (on modern swing-out cylinder revolvers like your Python, etc.) you give the ejector rod several pumps. That's not a good idea. One pump will do it. If you pump the ejector rod like a Windex spray bottle, what can happen is that the ejector star can get behind one of the empties and pull the empty back into the cylinder chamber. But now the ejector star is no longer engaging the rim of the cartridge, and this will prevent the ejector from going all the way home. Consequently the cylinder cannot be closed, and your revolver may as well be a rock. One pump is all it needs. If a cartridge remains partially within the chamber, just pluck it out with your fingers.
Only way to fix this jam involves tools to crush the cartridge case and bend it enough to dig it out. Really slows down your tactical reload time. REALLY slows it down if you don't have pliers in your pocket.
Being a long time semi-auto pistol user for decades, I'm now in the market for a revolver. Your tips are very helpful, now I can watch out for mistakes when handling, loading, and shooting (the grip technique) the firearm. Thanks Outlaw.
Watch a video where they cut a hotdog with the gasses coming out of the cylinder gap. That is not a mistake you want to make with a revolver. I grew up with single actions. I would strongly suggest a 22LR to get used to the differences between an auto and revolver. If you shot mainly or only striker fired handguns the trigger is very different as he pointed out.
@@charlesmckinley29 Thanks, your advice is well taken. It makes me think I can rent 22.LR revolver pistols at my gun range, until I'm (skillfully) ready to commit (forking down the money) to a 357.
I swear by my gp-100. Revolvers are fun!
@@davegrove795 Yes, that is the revolver I had in mind -after using striker fire pistols. Fell in love with it years ago, its a timeless classic -Ruger perfection. Thanks.
@@anthonyintawiwat3044 renting is great to try and get used to stuff before buying. The GP100 are very nice.
I love how he doesn't try to sell you on semi autos or revolvers and is just trying to inform. Very cool!
When I was helping to train folks for carry permits, I found the novice shooter was more comfortable and had far fewer problems when using a revolver. Common problems with autoloaders create even more stress with new shooters (the reality is they may only go to the range once a year - if that). Because revolvers are not fussy about ammo, as are many autoloaders , that is a huge plus. Capacity is nice, but almost all encounters involving a civilian are settled in less than 3 shots at least what the FBI tells us (we were not teaching students to clear a room).
Having been in three such "encounters" I never felt out gunned with my 7 shot 1911. Just my two cents worth and you are a hell of a pistol shot.
To be fair, your high capacity 1911 is a weapon of war. Can't you just give criminals a stern warning and tell them, "no?"
@@bobjohnson1633, I tried telling the fellow, who was high on Angel Dust, no (maybe I didn't say it loud enough) . But he wouldn't listen until he saw my old Colt 1911. Thank God, I had it on me while leaving work late that night, it took the police 15 minutes to get to me. So I got to babysit that guy until the police arrived.
@@risby1930 Good thing you didn't have to shoot him with that 45...would have nuked the whole neighborhood! xP. As for ammo issues, you only need one squib load in a revolver to ruin your day.
@@transtubular wouldn't a squib block an autoloader also?
@@nmarbletoe8210 Of course it would. But most times they won't cycle the action and give you a chance to fire another round into it, blowing it up. Not always, but most times. So you might get a chance to realize the problem before doing damage.
I carry a plastic 9x19 pistol for personal defence but prefer my 67 year old S&W .357 pre-model 19 for everything else including home defence, hunting, target shooting and general plinking. And it gets cleaned often and never fails.
Good video!
Me too - big S&W fan and have a 30 y.o. 686 (6") and a 3 y.o. 327 (2.6"). Extremely happy with both.
I have a 120yr old pre10, a 104yr old 2nd model HE in 45AR, a 60yr old pre27, and several others form the 70s and 80s. All of them run flawlessly. S&W simply can’t be topped in the revolver world.
And anyone who doesn’t enjoy cleaning their guns after shooting shouldn’t have guns. Whether I shoot 6 shots or 100, it gets cleaned after.
I love the M10, 13, 15, could be here all night. More thanove my 4 M-58. Two are 64 vintage, and the others from the 70s. Have one to my daughter. One I always wanted was the first year M10 stainless tapered barrel. I like most K frames.
My 1st 5 years as a cop, I used a S&W model 27 .357 "highway patrol." This was before semi-autos were authorized for LEO'S. Obviously. Our "run and gun" techniques and training were very different than they became for semi-autos. Jerry Micculek shows the difference well. You did touch on an important issue though, and that's the fingers-through method of opening the cylinder. Great job overall. It always comes down to 'know your gun, know your limitations.
I liked your comment, but just wanted to say that the Highway Patrolman was the model 28, a plainer finished N frame Smith. I had one of those, and a colleague had a model 27, of which I was very jealous as it was a work of art. I still qualify with a revolver as a retired officer, just in case. I love the GP 100s by Ruger as very street worthy.
I still have my 5" Model 27. Those were the days when the 27 and 29 came in wooden presentation boxes. Funny thing to me is unless I see my 27 and Model 19 4" together I have difficulty telling them apart. The 5" 27 looks so much like a 4" 19.
To clarify, mine was a model 27-2. I traded it in 1991 for a Colt .45 which I carried until retirement. I regretted letting it go, and still do. I do still have my dad's old Dallas Police issued model 10, lol. Dinosaur gun. Still fun to shoot.
Model 28 my dude.
Of course you will have to clean a gun after firing 100 or 200 rounds. I never thought otherwise.
To quote a MAJOR toober, "old does not mean obsolete, and obsolete does not mean ineffective".
Every tool has its pros and cons. Glad that you're educating people who are new to shooting and deciding what they want for their personal defense or recreation. I'm new to pistols, so discussions like this are great for my education.
I like revolvers for the fun factor. I use the taurus 44 and the grip is really hard to get used to and the da pull is definitely noticeable too. I love the modernized satin blast finish as well as rails and all on current models over the polished older styles. Stuff like the sw comp or korth or even the taurus options are a great compromise for more modern fits too.
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I’m a revolver shooter and a revolver smith. Like you said most problems are caused by dirty gun and neglect. Get you a smith and Wesson performance center trr8
When Outlaw does videos like this, it feels like "firearm school." There's always an, "oh...I never thought of that" moment. Best damn gun channel by a light-year 👍
The moment you mentioned the proper grip on a rhino reminded me that you are always able to tell us just what we wanted to learn and even learn us stuff we never knew we wanted to know.
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I have a Smith and Wesson Model 15 chambered in 38 special and I absolutely love it. I was always curious why a lot of people seem to hate revolvers but these points actually made a lot of sense. Thanks for the lesson
I’m a lifelong wheel man. Awesome video, and I wanted to add that a (old) Colt Python is like a fine watch. You can literally hear the difference in the actions. Great job. P.S. Freedom Arms 454 Casull are notorious for different brands of ammo not fitting & working well when clean.
Another stellar post/review Sir! My way to know which way a cylinder rotates is to look at the locking pawl indents on the cylinder, looks like an arrow or a thumbtack...either way, it points to the rotation direction ||=> or
These are really excellent tips, thanks! I really enjoy your no-nonsense, no bullshit approach to your videos. So many guntubers just like to hear themselves talk and spout nonsense. Plus, they're often shills for manufacturers. Keep up the great work. Cheers!
@honestoutlawreviews is the one dude that seems like a genuinely good guy doesn’t review or display guns for videos in typical arrogant CZcams fashion. He’s very calming to watch
For me, the revolver has a big advantage…it can be fired from inside a coat pocket or purse. Something a semi-auto can't do well if at all. So in the winter, I can walk around with my hand on my revolver in my coat pocket, but my finger outside of the trigger guard, and I can be in a position to fire in a split second. For an up close encounter, this could make the difference.
That's one of the things I always hear about how a semi-auto can not be fired from inside a coat pocket. Don't know who came up with that idea it will fire at least one time after that first shot why would you keep it in your coat pocket or purse? A semi-auto is just a dependable as a revolver as long as you take care of it.
@@user-sq5zg3ys5k the semi-auto should fire once just fine, it's what happens after that, that is the problem. The reciprocating slide, the ejection of the spent casing clear of the action, not inducing a limp wrist malfunction, pocket lint/debris blowing into the action, are all possible causes for a malfunction. I never said it couldn't be done, I said it couldn't be done well. Because of the way a semi auto operates, there is more that can go wrong, when trying to fire more than once from inside a coat pocket.
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This is really good info when I started using a revolver I had no idea it needed more cleaning or how to clean it properly like under the extractor. That increase in rotational friction will also negatively effect the double action trigger pull because it's just that much more force to rotate the cylinder. So many people are probably better serviced by cleaning a DA revolver every time you use, while with many semi autos it doesn't matter.
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Thanks for making a revolver video - like semi-autos, but revolvers will never fade into history.
I grew up shooting revolvers and it is definitely night and day from semi-autos. However that really didn’t have any bearing on me until. I started carrying a revolver as my EDC. Then those differences became a big deal. Now realistically if you find yourself in a defensive situation a person isn’t going to get off more than a few shots before the fight is over. However though training is key. It is never wise to carry a weapon that is unfamiliar to the user, we know that is a Class 3 FUBAR, too many things can go wrong. The bottom line is no matter what a person is carrying they need to take the time to get out to the range, know every aspect of their tool of choice, what it can do, what it can’t do. The shooter needs to know their limitations as well. Because as we know a person can spend top dollar, and have no training and still not be able to hit the broadside of a barn two inches away.
Solid points! Thanks for this video. My daughter wants a 22LR revolver so this video will be shown to her before she shoots it, especially the gripping portion.
22lr revolver is a great tool for most beginners because it's loaded or not, and more point and click if you have a problem you just keep clicking
The one I'd recommend is the Ruger SP101 22LR.
Psst...It's always a good idea to keep your gun clean, oiled and well-maintained--no matter who made it! (You never know when THE MOMENT will come...)
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My biggest problem with revolvers is that I don’t have enough of them!
Real good video, can't really compare a Colt Python to a Glock. I'm 52 so lights and red dots are still a relatively new thing to me. We were operating a night (retired LEO 27 years) for many years without lights mounted on our guns.
It's very easy to mount a red-dot on a modern S&W K, L, or N frame with an adjustable sight. It is already drilled and tapped for a sight and a number of vendors sell mounting plates. I mounted a Trijicon red dot on my 686 years before Glock or S&W provided factory mounts for red dots on any of their autos.
From an old revolver shooter. Very good video. I know a lot of people that I shoot with that had no idea that cylinders rotate in different directions depending on the manufacturer. Looking forward to the future ones
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Thanks for the Revolver love! I started in USPSA with my Glock but after seeing a Revolver GM in person I got a 929 (S&W 8 shot 9mm) and have switched to almost only shooting wheel guns in competition. As you pointed out, they are finicky mechanisms and their reliability isn't the 100% people assume. It makes it that much more satisfying when it all goes right and I see my name ahead of CO /Open shooters at the local matches.
I just acquired a S&W 65-2. I needed this video. Thank you.
Jealous. Hope you enjoy it!
Just found a GP100 so I guess I’m in the revolver business. Thanks for the tips, Chris. Good stuff as always.
That GP100 is nice, I was checking one out yesterday, for some reason that colt python n anaconda got my heart!
Love my Ruger GP! Running .38s cheap and .357 Defense makes sense.
@@davegrove795 Believe me, that GP100 on my list too, I noticed the trigger pull is a little different then the colts which you can pull the trigger and hold the hammer back more before letting off that round which you can anticipate that shot rather then being surprised and caught off guard.
The GP100 is the best. Amazing gun.
I shoot a gp100 in uspsa revolver. Love it. I do predict that I may have future ejection rod issues due to how I reload. But what can I do with 4 reloads a stage.
Honest Outlaw is killing it! His content started out as average because he was doing the same reviews as everybody else. Now his content has become much more original with his own opinions. Definitely one of my favorite gun channels.
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Excellent video that accurately describes the fouling issue with revolvers and the need to keep them clean. Always a good idea to give the cylinder area a good wipe/brush-down down every 50-100 rounds or so.
One trick I've learned from my cap and ball revolvers is to use a good bullet lube (roughly 2 parts beeswax and part coconut oil) to keep the revolver automatically lubed as fired. Using combustible cartridges in the C&B revolvers, the conical bullets pre-lubed by dipping into the molten lube after the combustible cartridge is made, I've fired 10 to 15 cylinders (60 to 90 rounds) with no fouling stoppages in a C&B 44 or 36 revolver.
For my cast bullet hand loads in cartridge revolvers (38, 357, 41, 44 & 45ACP/Colt), I started having fouling drag problems (in 50 rounds or so) while using the dry lubes such as ALOX, and even with powder coated bullets. In hand loads I have again started using my black powder lube, which ended the fouling drag problems. I've ceased using the dry lubes and powder coat, and have returned to regular bullet lubes as a result. For reloading cartridges, I've modified the lube to one part beeswax, one part paraffin wax and one part coconut oil. (unsalted tallow or lard can be substituted for the coconut oil) which is great for smokeless powder. Black powder lube is best with just beeswax and coconut oil (or unsalted lard/tallow).
I'm a big fan of the S&W 686+. Great fun to load 6 38sp and then a 7th magnum. Certainly wakes up the range...
Great Video Bill Wilson is one of the leading experts on Pythons. All your content today was on point great infoas always
Great and informative video, thanks! I'm just old enough to have grown up shooting revolvers as well as semi-auto handguns, so their manual of arms is second nature to me. But I have noticed on the range that this is not the case for most younger shooters, many of whom haven't had much opportunity to learn these great weapons.
Thank you for all the info, I have such affection for revolvers and it helps to know these issues because I didn't really ever get taught this by my dad who essentially would tell me wheel guns are perfect machines that would never fail you lol.
Loved this video!!! It basically says you are the problem not the tool. Practice with your tool and learn the best ways to use it. An by you I mean the end user.
I would advise you to research how Michelek unloads single action. Both of you have a very funky unload grip. If you hold the gun the same way Jerry does for loading, then you can unload much faster and the shells end up in your hand, rather than the floor. Its just all around better than keeping your shooting grip.
I went to a hand gun training course provided by my local sheriff's department a few years back. Several of the slighter framed ladies who came to the event brought their shiny new revolvers, which were beating them up when we went to the range. One of the instructors commented to them that semi auto pistols will generally have less felt recoil than a revolver when shooting cartridges of a similar power. After we had a chance to shoot range guns in 9mm and 40S&W, I overheard several of these ladies commenting that they really wished they had purchased pistols instead of revolvers.
you were talking about revolvers with 6 or 8 rounds. but i have a .357 revolver that takes 5 rounds. I agree with what you said about cleaning after a day of shooting i always clean at the end of the day.
I have several revolvers in 44magnum, one being a taurus tracker which holds 5 rounds.
One benefit of the smaller capacity cylinder is that boxes of ammo usually come in quantities that are divisible by 5, so at least a box will empty out evenly.
As the taurus tracker is the least expensive 44 that I own, I've let a few friends and family who were less familiar with powerful revolvers use it, and it was an added benefit that they got a bit more practice reloading it due to it holding one less round.
Be careful when putting fingers through the frame to control the cylinder because they will be awfully close to the forcing cone. It only takes a few magnum rounds before that gets really hot.
What a fantastic video! I am, admittedly, an old fart who grew up with nothing but revolvers (I'm 62 years young). I have a couple of sons your age, both of whom are avid shooters just like me. I used to bemoan "where did I go wrong?", seeing their preferences for not only pistols over revolvers, but for black rifles over my beloved single shots and lever guns. What we have all learned, however, is that, like my dad used to say, "it's not the arrow, it's the Indian". The three of us can all keep up with one another regardless of our preferences in firearms. I can run my lever guns as effectively as they can run their AR's, G3's, and FN/FAL's. I can keep up with their SIGs, Glocks, and such with my Peacemakers and M19's, at least until they run empty. The key is practice and familiarity. As an old school revolver guy, though, I do find many of their "revelations", and many of your comments and tips concerning revolver use rather humorous. They clearly weren't listening when they were kids, and you clearly didn't grow up with them. All of these "tips and tricks", all of these wondrous "revelations" about revolvers are simply second nature to those of us who grew up with them. As an aside, it never ceases to amaze me how many young shooters have simply never fired a revolver, and how these shooters view them as some kind of an anachronistic throwback. No more than interesting artifacts from our shooting past. Makes me feel kinda old...
"...his big brother, the Anaconda'. i would like to give Colt props for their herpetological accuracy.
I love videos like these where it pushes back on a lot of the “sacred texts” lore people perpetuate about some guns. You’re not afraid to say when some shit just sucks
Your channel is very informative.
Great video. I grew up semiauto but revolvers are cool. I kind of compare cocking the hammer back on a revolver to the pump action shotgun when it comes to intimidation factor. IF you are up to no good and hear either of those sounds it is immediately apparent you have a big problem.
As someone who owns a few revolvers (S&W Model 28, S&W Model 36, and a Rohm Model 66), they definitely need you to use a different mindset for a few things. But even so, they are some of the most fun things to shoot with, and I would trust my life with them (except the 66, since its a single action .22). This was a great video, very well done!
Glad to see this!
People think that revolvers, being simpler than semi-autos, can't go south when you need them.
One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone recommends a j frame for new shooters, specifically new female shooters. They are harder to manipulate and use effectively. Not saying that they aren’t good, or people shouldn’t carry revolvers, but they are not as simple as your local fudd would lead you to believe.
I have thought about this and I think that they may only get suggested because folk forget what it's like being a newbie.
A j frame with a very good grip was my second
If it was a completely new shooter who is completely unfamiliar with guns and hasn't the time or patience [or sometimes intelligence] to learn but just needs something that goes bang without much thought required I wouldn't _not_ recommend one. A little snubby 38 special which only requires a shooter to point and shoot isn't the _worst_ idea.
This. I was getting ammo and a new shooter came in looking for a Ruger LCR in .357 magnum. It's a great snub nose revolver, but the double action trigger and the recoil of .357 magnum from such a tiny and light weight revolver just seems like a bad idea for a newbie.
"Dose damn millennials with their semis and goddurn celly phones!"
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the S&W TR8 is an awesome revolver with under lug rails for light attachments. I'd like to see a review of one of those.
Agreed!
Yes, the TRR8 is an excellent gun, problem is that every dealer that I've talked to about getting one says that they've had it backorder for two years!
I’ve seen only one in my local gun shop and a guy already had paperwork going on it
Skip the trr8 and just go for the r8 if you must carry a revolver. If it's a range toy, get the 627 vcomp instead.
I really feel find your no nonsense presentation method refreshing.
Great points for your video, thank you for putting this together and getting the information out short and sweet.
Here’s a novel concept: clean your weapon after each time its fired.
I wish millenials would stop telling me I "need" to change my grip to "two thumbs high and forward". I learned on revolvers and I use the "two dogs f*cking" grip. I routinely carry a semiauto but recreationally and when on the farm I prefer revolvers. I'm not going to learn a new grip that at best I can only use about half the time and at worst will get me injured if I use it at the wrong time when my current technique works just fine for every handgun in my collection. I've tried "modern" grip and stance and it didn't really improve my scores.
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Yeah, as long as you're thumb is low enough to avoid "slide bite", hold it however you want. I prefer thumbs forward on semi-autos, but thumbs around the back on revolvers... makes it easier to use the left thumb to cock the hammer. This video is the first time I've ever seen anyone hold a revolver with a thumbs forward grip! There's no way I'm holding a revolver like that!
@@livewire2759 IMO, the most effective way to shoot a revolver is with the thumb of the support hand wrapped around the back of the grip reinforcing the web between the thumb and forefinger of the shooting hand. However, I only did that once with a semiauto and lost a thumbnail. 😆 I've developed a technique that works for revolvers and semiautos alike and I see no reason to change it.
@@itsapittie Yeah, slide bite is an issue, especially with women, and especially if they're inexperienced. Wrapping your thumbs around the back of the grip allows for a stronger, better hold on the gun... so even when told not to do that with a semi-auto, some people do it without realizing it just to try to get a better grip, then the slide bites them and they go back to the revolver. As long as they're prepared for the recoil, they generally like revolvers better.
I like revolvers alot and was trained to shoot them well at the FBI academy back in the 80's and I learned a few things I did not know about them due to this video. Thanks!
My Rhino 5” .357 magnum has a front, small, lower rail for accessories. That negates one of the issues with revolvers. Great videos, Thank you!
I found the Speed Beez speed loaders for GP100 to be tall for regular belt holders, but found 5 Star Firearms speed loaders and love those.
I use 5 Star speed loaders for all of my revolvers. I prefer them over any other I have in possession, or have tried.
I'm not a regular revolver shooter, but I'm all about "thumb over back of hand" for revolvers. In my experience takes care of the thumb burn chance, mitigates felt recoil, and puts your support hand in a good position to cock the hammer.
Behind the web of hand to support your grip.
That's how you teach children and women to shoot. Makes it so you don't need smaller or weaker guns for smaller weaker people.
For me that depends on the size and shape of the grips. Generally thumb over the back with smaller grips.
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Yeah I think that's more how I meant to say it. Not over your wrist, but over the back of the hand
My dad and uncles taught me to hold a revolver that way back in the very early 60's. Even now, as an adult and revolver lover, I still find myself automatically reverting to that same grip. It's just comfortable and easy.
This is a good video. Many good tips presented in an easy to understand way. Thanks for highlighting keeping the cylinder and ejector extra clean, that is a thing I just was reading about this weekend and it is a very useful tip.
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Revolvers are iconic and also practical. There are plenty of autoloaders with 5 to 8 round mags, ergo capacity shouldn't disqualify a revolver.
I'm all in for more revolver content, guides ect!
Thanks for the great content!!
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So far I only have one revolver (Colt King Cobra Target 4"). I did find out the hard way that it is easy to overrun the trigger if I don't let off of it and I learned the shells do not eject as easily after a few hundred rounds.
Thanks for clarifying the user error and the maintenance. I kind of figured those out but it's nice to have the affirmation.
Already instinctively alter my grasp.
I'm not a well practiced shooter but I do find I enjoy shooting my pistols with one hand as well. My revolver and 1911 seem to feel like they were intended to be shot single handed.
I would like to see more demonstrations of single hand shooting.
The new Snake guns are a problem with their slow return spring for some used to shooting S&W revolvers which have a much faster trigger return spring setup. I had issues which getting used to it. I personally think Colt needs to redesign that trigger. Too slow on the return, too fragile for day-to-day use and not reliable for defense.
@@williamryan9195 it is very smooth
@@1400IntruderVS I agree.
I do love a wheelgun. I had a police trade-in 4” SW686 that I absolutely loved but my girlfriend loves it more so it’s hers now.
My current revolver collection is all single action, a pair of Cimarron SAA clones and a Heritage .22.
I’m from Marshalltown by the way, living in StLouis now. I’ll add your shelter to my monthly giving list for next year
@Mad Dog She insisted. But it’s in her will that I get it back if she dies first.
@Mad Dog She really is
The fact you came out with this video the same day I go to buy my first revolver is ironic. Thank you
I am a bit surprised that only one comment mentioned loosening ejector rods with S&W revolvers and that it was not among the problems in the video.
I had that too. Additionally to every single screw comming loose on my 686 frequently. After some annoyance i loctited most of them (sideplate screws for example). But the most annoying thing to me was the (sorry english isn't my native language so i am missing the correct word here) screw that is underneath the grip and pretensions the hammerspring. It worked itself out very very slowly underneath the grip. I only noticed something was wrong when i started getting light primer strikes in DA. But not on every signle DA shot at first. At some point it was consistent and i was looking into forums to find an answer.
The loosening screws ultimately lead to me trading in my 686 for a Ruger GP100. As it only has very few screws, no sideplate screws, the tension of the hammer spring tension doesn't rely on a screw and the ejector rod doesn't screw itself loose either.
Bought a 6" .357 magnum for my first revolver. Its so damn fun to shoot! I started reloading so the ammo is pretty cheap. Now I want to get a .44 magnum!
Yeah, but then you need 44 mag loading dies and more powders. Then you're going to get a 45 colt, then a 460, more dies, more powders...
@@bobjohnson1633 - that’s a good thing
My .38, .357, .44, and .500 Mag all take kindly to the same powder, thankfully. Reloading is fun and super gratifying.
My 405gr lead bullets with 54gr of powder for my .45-70 really pack a wallop.
@@bobjohnson1633 I think .44 mag will be my limit for pistol calibers. Anything bigger doesn't seem fun to shoot often.
@@mr.horseshoe2301 my FAVORITE target gun is my 4" 500 magnum. 44 will kill just about anything on earth with fairly basic shit placement, so anything else is fairly redundant.
I'm thinking about having a Rhino as my EDC. Glad I'm researching everything I can
Jeeeeez bro. Good luck
Watch your thumb. Mine bit me.
Agree with all you said, but don't necessarily see them all as problems. S&W R8 does allow for a red dot & weapon light, but took light off mine as don't want to be pointing the muzzle @ everything, just what I need to to stop a threat. Excellent description of proper grip! Really enjoyed this video!
I know next to nothing about revolvers. Learned quite a bit. Thanks!
Just got a Manhurin M73 last year. It has a unique linkage making the double action pull consistent along its entire length. The single action trigger is adjustable but it is the most crisp break I’ve ever experienced. I’m not stupid though my home defence gun is a 9mm carbine with a red dot.
WOW! THat's not a cheap gun! Should last you a very long time, though.
That gun makes me moist
Tell us how
Much you love the MR73:)
I had a magician work on my MR32. Now: DA trigger at just short of 4 pounds and like a warm knife in butter. No hitch, not even a hint of unevenness. Everyone who tries it just smiles. I'll have him do my MR73 2 3/4" as well.
MR73?! as James Bond would say “Slightly above my pay grade!”
I'm a wheel gun guy through and through. I have one very simple, very replaceable, very easy to use and maintain plastic semi-auto for EDC and the nightstand (Glock 42,) but when it comes to collecting, fun at the range, and just overall preference I'll take a big, honking, heavy, shiny, stainless revolver every time. My favorite firearms are my two .44mag Redhawks, a .44 Super Blackhawk, and a .357 GP100. I'll be adding a S&W 500 and a Python to that list shortly.
Something about a simple old-school action just feels right to me, same reason why I love break shotguns along with lever and bolt rifles.
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Along with stiffer trigger pull, one thing I have found out with revolvers is the different trigger rebounds. A S&W seems to rebound much faster than a Colt. Also are the different cylinder release mechanisms. Push the button (Ruger), push latch forward (S&W), Pull latch back (colt),
Thru all my years of being trained never heard it referred to as the lantern hold, makes tons of sense.
Learning something every time from you. Thanks. Hope they have another gun com next year, seemed like something they could really build on, for next year.
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Old timey weapons need old timey care. Did people grow up using and then NOT cleaning their weapons thoroughly? I mean, you feed your animals and you clean your weapons before you eat, drink, clean up or rest. That's just a friggin rule, am I right?
I'm not always great at cleaning ALL of my guns... But I definitely make sure I immediately clean my guns that I depend on for concealed carry and or home defense. But some guns that I just use for pretty much range toys, I clean them when I get around to it. Back in the old days, cleaning ASAP was a must because ammo was corrosive. So if you put away a dirty gun without cleaning it, you would rust out the barrel and pretty much destroy the firearm. These days with the exception of some military surplus, most ammo sold today is non-corrosive, so it's not really a big deal if you only shoot a box or two of ammo and don't clean it. As long as it didn't get wet and it's stored in a dry location, it will be fine...
Thank you for educating people. I was surprised you didn't go over unjamming a revolver cylinder.
Awesome videos. You have a lot of good information. Thank you.
You're videos are awesome and I enjoy all the information you provide!
This is very helpful since I'm a revolver guy! lol
Keep up the great work!
My biggest issue with revolvers is reminding myself to not flip the cylinder shut all cool-like as you see your typical Black Ops operator doing.
My cop stepdad would let me play with his gun collection as a kid and he had this S&W .357 snub I'd go for all the time, flipping it closed like I'd seen in TV in the early nineties. It bent that rod that runs through the cylinder and wouldn't close, he had to get it fixed.
I do the same thing. Bad habit. Fortunately I don't shoot revolvers enough to do any damage.
@@SGT1911 I'm debating between the CZ PO7 and the Ruger LCR 9mm as a future carry option once I'm more comfortable with carrying and get a holster and pocket setup together. I know flipping the cylinder will be the first and worst habit I'll pick up if I choose the revolver.
You mean "cowboying" the revolver is a no no. Yes it looks cool on TV, but no good on the revolver.
@@jamesbynum3123 That's one way to bankrupt your childhood allowance real quick lol
Can you do a video reviewing revolvers chambered in 9mm?
I've been wanting a revolver but all of my semi auto handguns are 9mm or .22lr.
I would prefer to not have to buy another caliber like .357 just to have a revolver.
Your perspective on this would be appreciated
Love your videos by the way
The taurus 692 tracker is a solid choice it comes with a 357/38 cylinder but also comes with a 9mm cylinder. That way you have one for 9mm but also have that other cylinder just in case you want to try out the 357 or 38 caliber. I love mine it's a solid revolver.
@@LeadSlinger_ Hell yeah, thanks friend!
Buy the 9mm revolver, and you may trade it in and buy a .357 within a year.
My Ruger LCR9 is absolutely solid. Comes with a Hogue Tamer grip but I'll swap in a Hogue Boot/Bantam for warm weather carry and a Hogue Full for the cold months. Easy to control and great stopping power with Federal 147 JHP's. Moon clips are easy to carry and reload as well...
@@everydaycarrymonkey2691 I'll look into it, thanks
I carried a revolver for the first 20 yrs of my career and it saved me more than once. In 1974 I had to reload my Colt Detective Special under fire in a gunfight w/armed robbery suspects. I trust this platform in retirement and EDC a 340PD or 442PC, but all your points are well taken. Regarding grip I was taught to cross both thumbs over the backstrap to mitigate recoil.
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Great vid ! I love revolvers especially S&W . Yeah the do have a few things that you have to understand but damn a 686 feels so good and shoots so well ! I really enjoyed this and I hope more people try shooting a revolver . The one thing nobody could talk me out of is that revolvers are beautiful and not just that they are good looking but the way they operate is so amazing and if you ever shot a really nice balanced revolver and you can feel the parts all working together buttery smooth I feel you really can come to know that weapon and stage that trigger and there is a analog feel that a pistol doesn’t have .
Back to revolvers for me. Simple to use and maintain. I’ve watched too many self defense videos to know that you will likely never need more than 1-2 shots of any caliber with no red dots or even aiming. Wild shooting and running with a few shots. Revolvers for me.
But, what if al quaida runs out at you in the mall with 20 guys using full auto AKs and RPG-7s. You'll wish you had a subcompact 9mm with a red dot, flash light, and 4 spare mags, then!
My brother always makes the argument for capacity against revolvers; then he’ll shoot a gong 6/17 times at 20yds with his glock 19 while I go 5/5 with my snub nose S&W 36. And his 6 won’t be the first 6 either
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I've always said that to capacity whores...dude, if you need 16 shots of anything in a self-defense scenario you are doing something VERY wrong. Do you think you're going to be taking on an armed squad of 5? Even if that were the case, you'd be dumb to engage them that outnumbered no matter how many rounds you had on you. If it's just one guy, how are you going to explain to cops how you justified firing off 16-18 rounds in "self-defense"?
Same thing with the caliber hardos...I'm pretty sure if you pump a couple .38s/9s into a guy's chest he isn't going to shrug it off, laugh, and tell you you should've been packing .45s.
@@bobjohnson1633 actually, you will wish you were somewhere else...
I would like to add a honorable mention: You need to buy your quality revolvers in person, not online. When you order a quality revolver online you'll get one that's been handled by everyone at the factory and their mom. If it's a cheap revolver, it'll look brand new because no human hands touched it and it will likely work like crap.
Great vid. Got a 686 for home defense as I feel a revolver is the best tool for a household that has varying degrees of skill or fondness for shooting. If my gun-averse wife has to use it there aren’t issues with racking, bump and clears, etc. Just point down the hallway from the bedroom and aim true. I’ve done multi-hundred round sessions at the range(pre-Cov$d) and never had any timing or ejection issues. But I always clean it after ea session so it’s good to go.
Thanks for this video Chris. I'm relatively new to revolvers & while I really enjoy them, its definitely been a learning curve. I hope you'll do more wheel gun videos soon.
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I’ve locked up revolvers as well as pump shotguns. Probly more than any semi autos.
It's a lot easier than some would make you believe
@@jeremiahm3765 indeed. It’s like driving. Do it enough and you will get a ticket lol 😂
Lock up is just one type of jam. Autos have far more jams far more often. Revolvers aren't jamming when clean and not broken in the 3 shots you use in self-defense.
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Assuming you only need 3 rounds.
Love my wheel guns, true works of art. That said, all of your points were spot on - and that's why my P-09 is my nightstand gun! 😆
I just bought my first revolver this is great information thanks!
Ugh. Problems.
I really didn't know most of these problems. Thanks, man.
I love revolvers for the fun stuff. For the serious stuff..... semi autos all the way
I grew up shooting revolvers. My very first pistol was a Confederate Navy Colt 44, black powder, cap n'ball revolver. I've never had any of the problems that's mentioned in this video. One thing that I absolutely love about revolvers. They require you to, pretty much make every shot counts. This is especially true with the old cowboy revolvers.
Another great informative video!
One of my favorite .22 LRs is my Smith &Wesson 617. It looks like a 686 but slightly smaller. Great economical revolver to shoot.
However the tolerances are very tight and most .22 LR ammo create a lot of Krud.
So keeping it clean is essential!
But unlike the 686 it makes a great rabbit and squirrel gun.
I keep a short cleaning rod as a De-jammer for stuck cases. A section from the G.I. M16 cleaning kit works well.
My Pa told me revolvers ain't never got no problems never! You sir is a lyin' liar! Keep yer plastic guns!
Plastic guns for plastic sissies….
Love the content, one failure to note especially with a S&W revolver is how the ejector rod is threaded into the cylinder and if it happens to back out your cylinder will not cycle and you won't even be able to release and swing out the cylinder. That has happened only once with my 686. So, to remedy that one needs to use something akin to a pencil/BBQ skewer to stop the ejector rod from moving then pull the hammer back far enough to clear the cylinder(older style spring loaded firing pin models as compared to a transfer bar) then turn the cylinder clockwise to rethread the ejector rod into the cylinder. After you can swing the cylinder open it's best to turn it back out and Loctite the threads so it doesn't fail again!
that happened on my Taurus Model 85. Had no idea what was wrong. The local gunsmith had it for 3 days, & charged my $10. Live & learn!
One thing that jumps to mind as a revolver shooter, is knowing how the cylinder opens! On a S&W and many copies, you push the release, on a colt you pull. So just like with cylinder rotation, you have TWO different ways it works.
You are correct on the need of revolvers needing more maintenance. I prefer stainless steel revolvers since I like to use CLR to clean the SS revolvers, but it is extremely powerful and should be thoroughly cleaned/neutralized afterwards. In regards to Red Dots on revolvers, Allchin Gun Parts makes some great optics mounts for revolvers at a very reasonable price and they will fit any pre-drilled S&W revolver. I was impressed with their overall quality and have been very happy with the mount.