How KaiOS Is Becoming the 3rd Major Mobile OS
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Google has just invested $22 million into an operating system called KaiOS. Can it become the 3rd major mobile platform? (The Story Behind - Ep. 36)
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I think I predicted this pretty well in a previous video I made over a year ago: czcams.com/video/-N80hzTpglQ/video.html . I said that in order for a new mobile OS to emerge, it can't replicate what Android and iOS does, it has to do something completely different. It has to use a different software layer (I predicted the web), and a different form factor (I didn't predict the feature phone form factor). Either way, the older video makes for a good follow-up!
TechAltar KaiOS is becoming very famous in India as well it comes with a very cheap phone called JioPhone.
Oh! You already mentioned the JioPhone.
Great.
Great video
This is tremendously cool! :D
Please change the map of India you used! It does not include full Provide of Jammu And Kashmir!
TechAltar wow, how are Google's practices not considered anti-competitive?
Hadn't heard of KaiOS before this. Thanks.
For every non indians who are watching this video, I am a canadian and i have been staying in india for 2 months now and all the internet plans in india are cheap and the 4G speed is comparable with other 1st world countries. I have used Jio and i got 32Mbps and Idea : 40Mbps and airtel and vodaphone plans had the similar speeds. India is the best country to have not only data but only home internet at the cheapest cost. I am using an internet plan for 800 Rs and the internet is unlimited with 80Mbps speed .
ryan damoreyan
I am an Indian and proud to see you like india
ryan damoreyan that's crazy internet package
I primarily use a flip phone running kaios and it has all the features a dumb phone should have. But there's a lot of bizarre bugs. Locking my connection to 1g randomly and after finishing a call it sometimes locks the screen brightness to full brightness. Making it so I have to manually go to the settings and change the brightness to lowest. Only way I was able to fix the 1g bug was factory resetting. Which is pretty shit.
Star Lord Lol, he never said anything about the country itself
Smart move from Google here. By embracing this new OS that will inevitably become popular in large majority of countries they are collecting numerous amounts of data (which they thrive on).
One might say their move was ... Brilliant? :P
They thrive on illegal data collection and firing good software devs for questioning their crayon collection.
Ahh google.
That is exactly what i have in my mind. Sure a smart (super smart) move from Google to *have* the whole globe's data and to harvest them.
tactiti0n Send a request to Google and say that you want to pay a subscription instead off an ad-based OS, (and don't ask me how to get in contact with Google XD).
Anton Berglund ... that's unlikely to happen. You might be willing to pay, but many others, especially in Asia, could care less whether Google keep their minutious detail of their activity. All they want is 24/7 Sosmed live.
After 3 years still nobody heared about KaiOS...
Wait what? 42 GB for 2.35 dollars? I'm paying 10 euros for 1.5 GB here in Central Europe!
Yes, Jio made a data revolution in India, one of the main reason of KaiOS success. I saw people around me who watches almost all the HD movies on their tiny little jiophones and enjoy their lives! We just don't get data but premium JIO services like JioMovies, music, magazines, shopping apps and payment apps, too!
Me too
Are you czech?
no wonder they need 40gb+ if they watch everything in hd... i have samsung s8 but 1gb :/ max 360p xD
And I buy 2 GB at 0.4€
actually truth is you pay around 5 dollars and you get 3 months of unlimited voice calls/messages+1.4gb data per day lol.this is the plan that most guys are using ..thats basically 120gb 4g data +unlimited calling 3 months for 5 dollars
Jio's advent into the tech industry completely changed the dynamics. From competitors making their tariffs cheap to compete with Jio or their new Jio feature phone. Everything has been going good for them. Jio literally forced out non 4G phones out of the market
Now they'll do the same with their GigaFiber the 1GBps broadband project which will cost just 3.5 euros/ month
And they're also planning to set up a university now! Crazy
I think you should make a video on them for the story behind series
I've had that on my to-do list for a while now, it's just hard to find a lot of quality sources on them to work from. I'll eventually come around to it though :)
Ankur Tripathi Yes bro. Jio was a true revolution in India.
Ankur Tripathi jio fiber is crap...i have ACT broadband giving me 200 mbps unlimited.....
Easily i use 1TB data per week streaming 4k with it...... Jio is no competition for them
Peter Thiel act broadband? Haven't heard of it.. Where do you live?
TechAltar That will be fun; Really looking forward to it.
Internet prices in India sound really great
Aurthur Radley actually its 4G-- 90 gb mobile data with no tethering restrictions, free calling to any phone and 100sms/day for 3 months for 5 USD..
Speeds touch 25 Mbps- 50 mbps
Aurthur Radley plus I got a double data voucher for free....now i have 180 gb🤣
Aurthur Radley An average Indian lives on $2 a day. It isn't cheap. It's just that your country's currency is dominant.
Don't forget to bring your toilet with you.
Thats like 50 Euros in my country
If this takes off then this could be the comeback nokia’s been looking for
i couldn't agree more
Nokia is never coming back. They don't make phones anymore, it's actually HMD Global that are making these phones.
Shut the hell your mouth
I hope.
So my drug dealer is gonna have a fancier phone now? Nice
Joeink100 😂 congratulations from me to him and good for u he will answer u quickly too so GG.
Yeah, a phone that will finally allow the Federales to track, spy and shut him down
@@onyxsolo1 Yes finally he gets his SpyOS^^
Nothing with Microsoft hmd is Nokia
Nice... For Google
Before Jio Revolution, Internet in India used to cost $5 per GB.
After Jio Revolution, it's 90 GB for $5.
Not to forget free 10Gb data atleast 4 times a year.
Damn. I thought indonesia got the cheapest internet :0. Here, 1gb + unlimited CZcams costs a buck
Nicholas check plans at www.jio.com
Those prices are incredible compared to what we're stuck paying here in the US!
Okay CZcams, you got me. I finally watched it
Same... this video would not stop showing up.
Lol
Now raise your hands up.
How can i experience the same thing ?
I like this video and you ended it with just about the smoothest transition into an ad I've ever had the pleasure of watching.
I'm very jealous of those data plans.
Dan Odden welcome to India 😎
I AM USING THOSE TO UPLOAD THIS COMMENT
*Vin ay can you just give half of it, pls*
Everyone is, and bcoz of more 4g users ppl are using less 3g. Which is gud for ppl like me who like in villages, cuz i get constant speed of 8Mbps on 3g. Which is great.
@Ronald Z may i ask what is rm50?
Jio is the reason for increased CZcams users in india
😁
More power to Jio then :D
Mahamad sulthan jio is the reason india has the cheapest 4g mobile internet and telephony IN THE WORLD....
All Westerners r very jealous 🤣🤣🤣
Mahamad sulthan That is why stupid Indian Bollywood dance songs got millions.
I'm not really jealous of the cheapest 4G because just look at how those people live in India otherwise :S
Grobee well... people had food, water and shelter only before now they have internet too....so I don't think its bad🤣
Mozilla is the real MVP
Max Đỗ i would say its linux..
Except when it's not
czcams.com/video/qMALm1VthGY/video.html
Granted I still prefer Mozilla but I'm doing my part to improve it by spreading the word of these practices, so they can't happen again. I was even banned from Firefox' subreddit for this.
They almost always are. Linux is the ultimate silent, humble winner in all of this though, as their kernel and OS architechture are on virtually every phone in the world.
Asian nigga
Mozilla is non-profit organization ?
Discovered your channel earlier this week and I'e gotta say it's already in my top 3 tech channels, keep up the awesome work!
This is exactly the type of OS I wished “classic” phones with physical keypads had. After phones started getting bigger and battery life started getting shorter. I knew certain modernized flip phones had 4G capabilities but I never knew there was a serious OS like KaiOS. Thanks for this video!
You do such a great job explaining things. Also can't believe how smooth that transition into the ad was. Saw it in the last one, so you'd think I'd see it coming, but it's just so buttery smooth! Please keep making great content! I always look forward to your videos!
man I miss Symbian,
vavi sithole symbain also dead with old Real Nokia.
symbian was the worst OS ever
nope it was able to run 3d games like call of duty on Ngage
still has nostalgic feeling for me though
vavi sithole aye… it was good… although newer OS seem more appealing.
*No wonder why T Series is having more subscribers.*
Bollywood sucks
No u
You will get your answer in this video itself, watch it again. Indians get 42 GB of highspeed 4G data for just 2 dollars, which is cheapest in the world ,making 4G internet affordable to millions of Indians and T series is benefiting from it.
Abdulmoiz Kamran Wait, where are you from??
if US, then tell Apple to provide free 4G unlimited data on the green-card to whole country for a year...
Then will decide what’s going on..
Speaking of T-Series..
Have you noticed that the music used the background is used by Pewdiepie in some of his videos?
Appreciate your time for this video , all this information and the way you sort is great keep going man
I suspect that a lot of what Google is attempting to do revolves around the idea of KaiOS being an entry-level phone. Google wants to make these entry-level users locked into the Google platform, so when they eventually do "grow out" and evolve from KaiOS and into smartphones, they will be stuck into the Android platform immediately instead of going into a competitor. It will also assist them in reducing KaiOS from expanding itself outwards into higher-end devices with their entry level userbase.
4:24
1GB/day not a month i.e. the 1 GB data cap resets at 12AM and yes Reliance JIO has brought mobile Internet/4G to the masses in India because of It's incredibly aggressive pricing.
They are also going to launch JIO Fiber based broadband at similar dirt cheap rates in the near future.
i got 2gigs a day for free for 90 day as an offer. so i basically get 4gigs a day for just what less than 8 dollars. 320ish gigs for 8 $
but that was one time offer 168gigs/84 days for 8 $ is still pretty good.
pink Fungi 170GB ( with carry on ) cost around same 8.5 USD to in India ( including free TV Access and Amazon Prime )
i am also from india lol
Your videos are always very well researched and worked upon. Keep up the good work!
I am glad I found this channel. It talks about tech in general with great insight for lay man.
"Modzilla being Modzilla, made the OS open-source"
Mozilla
watching this on a jio phone, as my samsung galaxy went supernova
Lmao
Lmao 😂
holy crap! I had never heard of the KaiOS It looks to be a big thing. Thanks for the info TechAltar. Appreciate it.
your transition to ads not only make sense they don't spoil the idea of the video. Kudos!!
They better have a new version named Kaioken, Supreme Kai and King Kai
They can't it's ©®™
Haha
Now do a video on how Reliance Jio disrupted and transformed Indian Telecom Industry. Now India has the cheapest data rates in the world and data usage is skyrocketing. CZcams, Netflix etc got the advantage from this.
I woul like a video that explaines in general: "Why the pricing for mobile data differs that much across the world"
VX92Q4 due to the tax fares. Some companies rent the wires under the ocean some have their own
Now that HMD Global/Nokia has a smartphone share of 1%,I'm gonna celebrate this success.
Great Chanel. Thaks for the knowledge!
KaiOS should be used in airplane TVs. It would probably work
It needs internet to work...
Not necessarily. Jio phones don't need 24/7 Internet.
Virgin Airlines (now merged with Alaska Airlines) used Android.
@@darexinfinity, *Virgin America, Alaskan will never buy whole virgin group.
Cool
I was watching this at 1440p, and I can't even image what this looks like in 4k. I just love the way your background looks when your face is shown, and your editing is beautiful, just love your video, even if this is the first of yours I've watched
Excellent videos keep up the great work
Quality content!!! Great job! Subscribed!
Amazing video as always, extremely informative. Never heard of KaiOs until now.
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This is going to blow up the market in sub Saharan Africa.
tactiti0n That's only south Africa, 1 out of 53
I think Boko Haram already beat them to the whole 'blowing up markets in sub saharan africa' thing.
Heavy unoptimized we ites, like for example "the verge" lol. Great video, Thank you!
This video blew my mind. I work in this industry well over a decade and had no knowledge of this OS. Thanks a lot for this video!
You should definitely do a video on Jio and how it completely transformed the Indian mobile Internet industry. Before Jio came, two years back I used to pay about 5$ per month for 2 GB of data. Watching youtube on it was next to impossible. But now I pay about 6$ per 3 months for 126 GB of data ( 1.5 GB/day for 84 days). Basically, Jio made it possible for me to watch TechAltar. :)
Amit Negi you know I am paying 10€ per month for 1 GB? And I am living in Germany
Loving the videos friend. You definitely got a new subscriber here!! 📺💯
Being in college, Brilliant is the first ad that actually captured my attention. Absolutely correct on the process of trying to retain notes into memory long enough to pass a test, only to not have enough time in my schedule to convert those studies into a solidified understanding (time to practice, emphasis on developing an understanding). Condensed learning, stress and shit sleep, poorly laid slides, and filler courses that seem half baked summarize some of my initial gripes. I've had some good professors obviously, others not as much, but the system as a whole just seems to be geared towards grading you more so than making sure that you fully understand what you are doing. Obviously they teach, but I personally find that information does not become memorized for me until I have a full understanding of said information, which requires time/effort/repetition to develop, which does not exist when juggling work/school and multiple courses. Never thought I'd be complimenting an ad, but I suppose being bombarded with them builds up a sort of resentment towards them. Also my resentment towards school associated stress is real. I don't dislike education, I don't dislike learning, I dislike the execution of it all. There are better means of achieving the same or better result in terms of learning than what we currently have, it just requires proper revamp of our system. Yup I'm talking out my ass, had a good sleep and now I can think again (not necessarily a good think for the sake of anyone who reads this, if anyone).
Or maybe I'm just shit, equally possible as others deal with the same system and make better use of it. All I know is that driving hours to sit through lectures for hours is hardly engaging to me (varies between professors), and stress combined with lack of sleep I feel does not have to be synonymous with school or learning. Being able to progress/learn at a pace relative to the learner I feel is important as this instills a feeling of confidence and readiness for tests/evaluations, where you are being evaluated relative to how you learn, rather than if you can adapt to a hectic time frame or not. Another improvement in my opinion would be testing someones understanding/knowledge rather than testing their ability to memorize pieces of information from textbook slides for a few days, or their ability to withstand pressure. Pressure is an obvious part of life; however, the process of learning does not require this. As long as it can be proven that the person is learning on their own, stress isn't a factor that builds better students. If anything a course based around an intro to psychology would be more beneficial (in all levels of school), although ironic given the structure of the school system (30% weight exam on dealing with stress associated with large exams).
I could run a course on how to ramble worthlessly on CZcams comment sections, preaching about the need for a revised school system and issues with time limitations while utilizing my time writing shit comments.
I learn better at my own pace, and I wish school had a greater or more balanced emphasis on understanding the knowledge that your are forced to retain, and I feel that a better system of learning does exist. We live in an information age and yet the best utilization/implementation of this I've seen is online textbooks with mandatory Labs (e.g., MyMathLab) to bypass the used books market, and Brightspace where descent when done properly, but annoying when the computer interpretation of the answer provided becomes an issue (accidental space, improper use of key words by maker of quiz, lack of human oversight).
For real now I'm done. Correct me where I'm wrong, I'm open to discussions. Disclaimer once again, yes of course I know that there are others who deal with the exact same system and do just fine, at least on the surface. It's worth noting though that there is always someone better (with the obvious limitation of population, unless we're talking alt dimensions), and that everyone is different. Applying the same system to a wide range of people regardless of ability will not yield the same results. I for instance prefer to be moving rather than siting behind a computer, lectures do not engage me (my mind races and wanders withing a few minutes), and I am alright a high stress individual without school (the only pressure I have comes from myself).
I lied, now I'm done. Take the length of this comment as a demonstration of my sporadic pissed off stressed out mind, not as a demonstration of quality > quantity or proving a point. I wasted my time, now maybe I wasted someone else's, how productive of me.
Every day that passes I hate Google more and more, almost as much as I hate Apple. Why did Windows Phone have to fail? I'm not saying I prefer Microsoft products over Google products, but more competitors in the market leads to more innovation which ultimately benefits us, the consumers.
Yet you can't trust Mozilla either.
czcams.com/video/qMALm1VthGY/video.html
Granted I still prefer Mozilla but I'm doing my part to improve it by spreading the word of these practices, so they can't happen again. I was even banned from Firefox' subreddit for this. It's important information that people need to hear, so Mozilla doesn't become Google or Microsoft.
Windows Phone/Mobile failing is completely Microsoft's own fault... they made promises they didn't keep like crossplatform app support, they did next to nothing to persuade developers to make apps for the platform and they didn't release enough interesting models to persuade consumers. I was also very fond of Windows Mobile/Phone... I've owned a Lumia 820, Lumia 830, Lumia 640 and Lumia 950 but when a couple of important companies stopped making apps (like banking apps) I had to leave the platform.
totally agree. MS completely dropped the ball on win mobile. its almost like they had zero interest in it from the beginning. no marketing. no interest in bringing up their app store, nothing. the worst part of it is that their os and their phones were actually really good. they had apps and features that neither android/apple have or they're just coming out with now and marketing it like its something new. i had a couple windows mobile phones and loved them. great cameras, great battery life (probably because they didn't have any apps to use on it), hands down the best voice recognition of either android/apple. Apple being the worst. Right now I have both android and apple phones. If a competitor can come out with a stable os that is the same across their phone line, comparable apps and solid phone build, like nokia did for win mobile, I'd definitely check it out.
The thing is that Microsoft just isn't used to push their products anymore, not since decades ago anyway.. they were criminally good back in the early Windows days and that's what made them the dominant desktop OS supplier. But because they're used to being dominant it seems they didn't have a clue how to properly promote Windows Phone/Mobile... in other words: the wrong people in charge. Only the Xbox division knows how to promote and push a product, but that's a completely different division... they should've had those people do the promotion. I still think it's the best smartphone OS I've used; it is very stable and easy to use.
why do you hate apple?
Do video about why Chrome has dominance over other browsers
iGenius just because of google services
Firefox browser in reality much better than chrome if you compare ram usage and add on and extensions.
Surge Saber Do you use Firefox? Because I use it along with safari.
because google. it's going to become the new IE6 and nobody is going to give a shit becaise it's google. people are constantly bitching about windows 10 while using chrome and android which do worse
chrome is faster and supports almost any website with anything....flash,java anything just works
iGenius yes
That's why replied you because i use firefox
Great video! Nicely presented
KaiOS means - Kill Apple’s iOS
but how
K - Kill
A - Apple
iOS - Apple's OS
@@someshsingh3780 +
wahahaha
K - Kill
A - Android
iOS - Apple mobile OS
That smooth transition to the sponsorship though
Smooth sailor
one of the main reasions the jio phone was an success because it that many people like to keep a secondary phone usually next to an iphone or Samsung as a backup to receive alternate calls if their man phone dies or take their backup phone not to say a large majority can't use ios or android especially the elderly
well that secondary just became primary for many people
Another great video TachAltar. Thumbs up again.
If Google floods kaio with its services bang goes any personal security controls.
Been spending some time learning about Ubuntu and it looks promising even with glitches.
3.5GB/day 91day for ₹398 after cashback and coupon. = ₹1.25/GB on Jio 4G.
Two years ago it was ₹251/GB for 28 days on 3G.
0.0184$/GB
Guess what, In Australia my mum's 2 year plan was 1gb/m for 30USD
30 USD for 1 GB is a robbery but if you take average Australian salary into consideration and compare it to Indian one then the difference will not be as huge it seems to be. Now on the other hand think about the prices of electronics which are similar across the world. According to google search average Indian salary is 600 USD and average australian one is 5000 USD, so for example to buy a 15" Macbook pro you have to work 3.6 month in india and only 0.4 month in australia. These are rough numbers but you can get the general idea. Personally I would pick the austrialian prices (and salary) over the indian ones :)
Very true zaraza. She recently *upgraded* to a $45 30gb deal which is miles better than what she was getting before. The plan was originally 15 gb but was doubled for a promo
Now 3G is just Rs.46/GB for 28 days. After 4G, even 3G rates have dropped a lot
ZC I am paying about 30€ a month for 4gb and it ain't even 4G
Bring back NOKIA phones through this OS please. :D
There is Nokia 8110 ,and Nokia 2720 , based on kai OS you can buy it
This was super informative and helpful! My father in law would love a kaiOS phone.
That was the strangest way I've ever heard currency read out.
Well i assume google is trying make kai os a version of android for low end or cheap hardware and i think it's a great hit, I've checked the jio phone (runs on kai os) and it's really good if you see it's basically free ( 1$for unlimited calls for a month!) ..
Woah! This TSB is like a secret sequel to the one you did about how there wouldn't be another OS. Smart Dumbphones FTW!
Yeah lol, I re-watched it and they match up perfectly :D
TECHALTAR, YOU REPLIED!
Your channel and even your comments section is pretty good. Usually people get mad over tech stuff.
the revolution will be a kaiOS in a smartwatch with a voice communicator like zelo app.
Am I the only one wanting a BlackBerry Classic 2 running Kai OS? I can forgo the touch screen as long as there is the track button and a good Email client.
Jonjo Saunders Yes, you're most likely the only one....Maybe a few others.
The Classic is a great phone, I use one now. BB10 does everything KaiOS does and more though.
This 8110 has got two core 1.2Ghz DualCore SD CPU, 512MB of RAM and 4GB Flash so comparing to Palm Pixi almost 4 times faster CPU i 2x RAM and KaiOS works on 8110 and looks like a .... ok, there is no word in English that is sufficiently oratory. Why, why they killed WebOS and not used in similar designs?
I agree
OMG i need to get this for my grandmother, this is perfect. Whatsapp works, but she can use it like her old phone and doesnt need to learn about touch screens, gestures, etc.
I actually have one of the phones listed. I use it to help separate me from constant internet connection. It's been great!
it's 2021 and this is my first time hearing about this. lmao 😂
"Makes me a little envious"
> pays 25€ for 1GB 4G per month in Germany
> Germany
Lennart G. 18€ for unlimited 100mb/s 4g in finland
JoeRieper Why are we so far behind everyone else lol
Lennart G. I just calculated that only my phone has used 76 gigabytes and my pc has used over 1tb this month so I would be fucked if I had to pay 25€/gb
JoeRieper I used 310MB the last week because I'm throttled to 1Mbit/s since 3rd of July :)))
Lennart G. Holy, how much do you suckers earn to pay that?
well i have a jio phone... and its very good to use ... and also for our moms who hates touch screen android phones.... and its easy to use for them....
awesome video, thank you
Those phones actually look cool.Might switch it with my Samsung Galaxy S8.
What an excellent video. Was able to understand word by word.. It seemed what he spoke was, what i wanted to hear
Never heird of it, but nice to see a third mobile os.
BitteKeinDDos yeah same. Always nice to see a new os becoming big
TheFakePro gaming except Google already has it's hooks in it...
BitteKeinDDos
Would be happier if windows os takes the third position on the smartphone market
* Windows Phone cries in the background as Google actively suffocates it *
Not true. If you really pay attention to Windows Mobile bashers you will realise that they typically fail to really test the OS to the point where it's advantages come our, preferring instead to resort to the app-centric models of competitors that they are used to. Real users however, recognise the innovation that went into it which, alas, competitor's marketing can to easily drown out
10:14 Damn, that was smooth
Your voice is so weird and relaxing, I love it.
Google is dominating this monopoly game. First, the issue with EU and Google's anti-trust case. Second, API on certain websites loads faster on Chrome compared to other browsers like Firefox, Safari, Edge, etc. Third, investing and playing with KaiOS. I'm sure there's plenty more. I hope it won't kill KaiOS. It's like the updated Symbian OS but better.
You mean they becoming 90s Microsoft.
Google is going to get it eventually
Make vdo on fuchsia OS
There's not really much about it. There's not enough to make a video.
Yeah I'd love to make a video about it, but there is so little info at this point that I would mostly have to speculate
Fuchsia is already disbanded.
TechAltar I believe in you do it
Hargie Curato then why is there an article written yesterday about Google replacing Android with it? www.androidcentral.com/google-fuchsia-wish-list
I’m just happy that Mozilla is getting the recognition it deserves, hopefully KaiOS will give some money back to them
Good, we need more competition
Feature phones have a big market. It is gonna be successful if they do it right
Firefox OS sources have been published under the MPL which is partly copyleft. That mean KaiOS can't be all that closed, right?
Good analysis
The video and the explanation was great! But that background music playing together was a headache
Make a video on Google's Fuchsia OS and on Project Treble.
Hi, i lover your „the story behind" series and I have an Idea for you: could you explain why China hasn't banned android, but Google, Facebook etc?
djsbfjns ! Google and Facebook mine data and don't hand it over to China's government. Android doesn't mine any data.
Android isn't commercially competing with anyone in China. Plus it would be difficult to recreate from scratch.
Android is an OS, while Google and Facebook are services through which information that the government of the PRC may not be comfortable with may be consumed by their citizens.
+SerBallister the commercial competitor thing is a chicken and egg problem. China is advertised as a fascist country because it doesn't sell its citizens to American spying agencies. China's citizens are pretty happy using their China made electric cars, China made social networks, China made payment systems, and China made phones...
and they don't even know they are living in a fascist country until American "freedom" reaches them #sarcasm
MustHaveChannel China is known as fascist because they have an authoritarian government with no tolerance for opposing viewpoints
This is good, many people still need a simple phone like this, and they can at least search something through google
I wish stock android was more popular or at least if companies kept the look of stock android since some of them have made cool features or do something faster than google. For example huawei phones usually have features that later gets implemented in stock android.
I have a jio phone which runs on kai os and it works pretty well
I looked at KaiOS after seeing your video, but notice that they appear to be in dire straits. Back in Sep 2021, Google appears to pull out of Kaios, so now they no longer have any google apps. KaiOS release version 3, which is faster than 2 but is not backwards compatible with version 2, requiring all of the developers to rewrite their program if they want it to run on version 3. It's more difficult to find KaiOS phone now, many low end phone are now being shipped proprietary OS like Series 30+ or AOSP. It's likely that KaiOS may have reach its end.
Yeah, even whatsapp don't update their software for kaios 3.0, I really want to buy nokia 2780 flip
KaiOS would be great with a little touchinput area(a larger button) to move the "mouse" and if they can make the voice input perfectly then i would buy that thing if akku can survive for 48h for instance... to simply call, liten to music, watching yt videos and so on...
Google seems a lot like Frieza, fearing the competitors.
i prefer SymbianOS :D
imicca N-Gage had that one , you can always get free stuff .jar 👍
I have a N-gage and I still use it.
Yeah, but i also prefer java too!
I feel Symbian was killed off too early as it was still a good platform.
Ohhh comeon its just like the java os we used to see in old nokia phones....
No, it's really not. Java was bloated as hell on my Nokia 3410 and borderline unusable.
HTML, Javascript and CSS are probably pretty useable even on an ultra lowend Arm chip now. Javascript in particular has had a lot of work done on it so it can JIT to native code. Arm chips are also a lot faster.
Java on a Nokia 3410 was using Jazelle - a clever ARM technology that allowed the CPU to executed most Java byte codes natively and emulate the rest. The problem is that you still had to do things like memory allocation in software and the CPU in a Nokia 3410 was an ARM7 or ARM9 running a few tens of Mhz.
Javascript running in a modern browser is being JITted to native. There are lot of optimisations you can do when that happens. There was an interesting Sun paper of why JITting to native is better than Jazelle. Basically if you're executing something instruction by instruction you need to reproduce all the documented effects of each instruction. If you're translating a whole program you can typically omit the ones that don't matter.
E.g. this article from one of the developers of SpiderMonkey, the Javascript engine in Firefox and KaiOS, explains how to reduce the number of cycles to access a member of an object from 45 to 8 and finally to 3 by JITting the code and the modifying the JITted code
blog.cdleary.com/2010/09/picing-on-javascript-for-fun-and-profit/
And of course even a low end Arm chip in a $22 phone is probably running at about a Ghz. And you've got a lot more Ram too - Gigabytes over MB.
Love your channel, but I have to admit I miss that old startup instrumental
OMG!! I NEED THIS!! ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SMARTPHONE REALLY MESSED UP MY STUDIES
video title: How KaiOS Is Becoming the 3rd Major Mobile OS
Me: Kai-O-what?
Honestly I think it's time to downgrade to a flip phone. Modern phones are cool but ultimately I need to call people, use basic internet chats and get wikipedia.
Just ordered (for next to nothing) the banana phone.
RE me too. Since I use my phone for CZcams, calling people, and internet use , I think I'll downgrade too. More money for upgrading my PC I guess!
LOLIPHY and for a real camera. Can't even take 30 second exposure pics on my S7. 😑
Marc Frank I never use my camera, so really every phone with a fancy camera I've ever bought was a bit of a waste
just buy some price/performance killer like the Redmi Note 5 pro
you don't necessarily need to go "off the grid" from the smartphone landscape. there are pretty cheap smartphones (coming from respectable brands) with decent specs. xiaomi redmi line is one of them. i own a redmi 5A and it's around $100-$140. i use it most on checking emails, slack, trello, onenote and messaging. i'm not much into games or the camera so my expectations aren't too high given their price point.
i no longer desire the flagship phones as i can't really maximize its usage and it costs more than what i basically need.
Mozzila doing what Netscape did - with the same results... A 'Pay it forward' at its best.
What kind of crazy world has this come to, where in a given country you can have an ultra-cheap data plan we all greed over in the rest of the world, but its linked to a ultra-basic device which simply cannot take advantage of it?
I'd be interested in such a device if it sported a full QWERTY keyboard.
Jio Phone 2 has a QWERTY keyboard
Nokia 5730 back in 2008/09.
If the Blackberry Key 2 was cheaper and got better software updates that would be perfect I think
Like a Nokia E700? KaiOS looked a lot like Symbian at first glance.
Anthestudios t9 is good
If they make phone with full keyboard ( like blackberry) I will buy it !
Search Jiophone 2
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maybe in the future, this is just the very beginning
Same here.
Jio phone 2
There is also the Moroccan Brand "Accent" that adopted KaiOS for their dump Phones model
I wish KaiOS can be retrofitted (flashed?) into Nokia's old Asha feature phones.
Or, Nokia could re-introduce their Asha line with KaiOS installed.