It's not London Derry. It's Derry. You are very good with your facts, and I know that it's easy to give a critique, but as an Irish Republican I have to make a stand. Keep up the good work.
I teach English abroad. I spend so much time trying to explain to kids that. "No, you can not just replace the term 'The UK', with 'England', they are not equivalent."
Welsh in fact is an old germanic word, still alive in my younger days in German language (but outdated nowadays) as "welsch", meaning foreigners, especially of romance languages (but could of course well work with celtic languages too). In the form "walsch" it is even today used by german speaking swiss people to denounce the romance speaking people of Switzerland. Just fyi ;)
Volker Wendt Walsh, sometimes Welsh is a large tribe in Ireland and funny enough, the Irish Gaelic for the surname is Breathnach, which probably could be translated as British person. In many rural areas the name is pronounced Welsh
The British isles is not a generally accepted term in Ireland, some people don't mind it, but the vast majority of Irish people view it as politicized, and as a territorial claim. Which given Ireland is a republic that fought for its sovereignty, is a big no no. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles_naming_dispute The UK government recognises this and no longer uses the term, rather refers to the islands as "these isles" or "Britain and Ireland" as does the Irish government. Also the Official name for the republic of Ireland is just "Ireland". Honestly this is like the irish equivalent of calling Pakistan, India (people will get very annoyed).
You are perfectly correct, the channel islands are part of the British Isles, but not part of the Celtic Isles. The British Isles, as you point out, means those isles which are under the British jurisdiction. Geographically, the Channel Islands are off the coast of France and therefore not part of geographical islands that are Britain and Ireland - The Celtic Isles is a much more accurate term for those two countries
The British Isles is the Archipelago which the Channel Islands aren’t geographically part of due to their location off the coast of France. But they are “considered” part of them though aren’t actually.
History With Hilbert i thought the Northumberland and Geordie accent were pretty interesting, I also watch a few other videos about this and they were saying that's these are the oldest accent in Britain, I might be wrong tho. Thank you for making good content they don't tech in school.
Thanks for mentioning Kernow aka Cornwall. Our claim is that we are the only Celtic part of what is politically England, and the only part with a distinct language. British Isles is a purely geographical term so clearly includes all of Ireland and the Isle of Man (which has its own parliament and sets its own taxes, like the Channel Islands).
I am very interested in cornish language and Cornwall and is basically Ireland little brother yeah I am Irish and want a Scottland Wales 🏴, Cornwall, and Isle of man and United Ireland
one day I hope Cornwall can become a self governing member of the united kingdom. the culture is too distinct form the rest of England, its nearly ads bad as trying to say wales is just another part of England. should this happen i believe there is a good chance of the Cornish language having a proper revival.
@@TheXenomorphGuySMSE just because it’s a different culture doesn’t mean it should look for independence. Look at American 50 states and many cultures and yet they remained United to be the global superpower today.
@@maxdavis7722 i didn't say independence. i Said a self governing part of the uk. that is literally what every US state is. self governing part of the union. incase you didnt know, the united kingdom is a country made pof of 4 smaller countries which all have different laws, similar to the US states. what im saying is cornwall should be one of these countries
The reason not to call us the British Isles is because it is offensive to 5 million people. No one here refers to it as the British Isles, and having an English person tell us we shouldn't mind is worse. The English don't get to decide what everything is called. You're not in charge anymore!
The Latin name for Ireland was Hibernian, Scotland was Caledonia was not called little Britain by the Romans. Great Britain was to differentiate between lesser Britain/Brittany.
@@AnnesleyPlaceDub70 Before you tell me I’m talking bollocks look it up. Ireland was referred to as Little Britain at the same time Albion was referred to as Great Britain.
@@noodlyappendage6729 you and Ptolemy were talking bollix so. Ireland was never "Britain" in any way shape size or form. Two separate islands thank fuck.
Gruffyd ap llywelyn was also kinda the braveheart of Wales he resisted Edward longshanks for many years before William Wallace this happened just after Edward returned from the crusade
Is that an attempt at logic for something? So why not include USA and Canada as British isles? They were both British overseas possessions one time same as Ireland?
@Canadian Mapping Yes, I agree, never put nationally in front of geography, but isn't that exactly what the British have done (in the original subject of this discussion).
Ireland is not a British Isle. The Majority of Ireland lies mainly in Irish Territorial waters not British Territorial waters. The Majority of citizens on the Island of Ireland are Irish citizens not British citizens. Ireland can no longer be called a British Isle since it regained its Independence and Territorial waters in 1922. Most Irish citizens find the term offensive. It is very much a political term once the word British is used.
What confuses me the most is the difference between Great Britain and the tiny isles of crown depencies and some other fancy stuff which isn't really Britain but something else of the Queen. Would be nice when you could explain this, too.
This is a good suggestion. I watched another video (not Hilbert's) explaining the proper nomenclature for all of the lands Britain has (generally speaking), but in the video, they state the proper term for all Britain has is called the Greater British Isles, if I am not mistaken. :-) Edit: I corrected the title to be the "GreatER British Isles" (not just "Great").
It was named Londonderry by Royal Charter 1662, and a 2007 court ruling showed that is still the city's official name. There have been attempts to officially change the name of the city to Derry as recently as 2015 but until that happens Londonderry is just as correct despite people's hurt feelings.
@@turkoositerapsidi from the way you type you can tell your not from here and you clearly from what I can tell from your fucked up English is you know nothing about ireland
I am not think it is quite accurate to call Strongbow "English. He was Norman. The Normans invaded England in 1066 and became the aristocracy which slowly became English speaking. The Norman invasion of Ireland followed a similar pattern. They became the aristocracy and slowly turned Irish. So Strongbow (Gilbert de Clare) was Norman, spoke French and grew up in Wales. His ancestors were Vikings.
I find the term The British Isles highly offensive. I am from the Republic of Ireland. We are both not in the UK or the Commonwealth of Nations. We are IRISH and NOT BRITISH.
So many problems with this video. 1) Today British refers almost exclusively to the modern British state, not to the ancient Celtic culture which is instead usually referred to as Brythonic/Brittonic. As an example, when thinking of British accents, people always assume English accents, the dominant part of the British state, rather than Welsh, who are actually a Brythonic Celtic people. 2) Brythonic ≠ Celtic. Ireland was never Brythonic, it was inhabited by Gaelic people, who are a related but distinct group from the Celtic Britons. It would be like saying that England should be happy to be called Frankish, because both the Franks and Anglo-Saxons were Germanic people. Really condescending attitude. 3) Its not a native name. The name may have a long history, but it was coined by Greeks who lived a long fucking way away and didn't have a clue what they were talking about. It was never used by native writers, English, Irish or Welsh, during the medieval period, who used other names such as Oceanii insulae, the oceanic islands or islands of the ocean. 4) It first entered English usage in the 16th Century. By this time the English Crown had been attempting to colonise Ireland since 1169, using the Laudabiliter as justification, this was a papal bull granting the English monarchs the Lordship of Ireland as a papal fief. Upon splitting with the Catholic Church, King Henry VIII needed to re-affirm his legitimate authority in Ireland, which had previously stemmed from Papal authority. To do this, he had Ireland declared a Kingdom, rather than a papal fief as it had been previously, with himself as the King. He also annexed the Principality of Wales, even though English power in Wales had never come from Papal authority. It was during this period that the long defunct and inaccurate Greek term was resurrected, along with pseudo histories that King Arthur, as King of the Britons, had held suzerainty over Ireland. This created a fictional precedent that Ireland was part of a natural British political unit, which was decisively not true. 5) Geographic terms and political terms are not mutually exclusive. To quote Hozier, "anything related to the human experience is political". Today, British is understood as a political term, and inherently has political implications, even if not used in an explicitly political sense. This is why organisations covering both islands, such as the British and Irish Lions, the British-Irish Parliamentary Assembly or British-Irish Council do not use the term British Isles in their names. Insisting that British Isles is merely geographical is again ignorant and condescending. Ireland is part of the same geographical archipelago as the UK. That archipelago is not British.
The comment that Irish people should be proud to be called a British Isle is a lame excuse so you can continue to use a lazy catch-all term and lump us in with the UK for convenience. Citizens of the United Kingdom are called British people. We are citizens of Ireland and called Irish. This is MY objection to the term British isle. It just confuses foreign people when we are not British (i.e. not part of the UK) but yet somehow part of the British Isles. You could say that country related terminology needs to change over all across Ireland and the UK as it's confusing but I will not have someone say I should be proud to be called British because of some largely obsolete Celtic connection (Irish traditionally spoke a Godellic branch of Celtic anyway and not Brittonic so you're really reaching). I'm not anti-UK at all but I'm fiercely proud of Ireland's political and cultural independence and want there to be no confusion in seeing us as a completely separate entity from the United Kingdom. Irish people are not British people in the modern day sense of the word.
@Canadian Mapping Not put nationality before geography? But isn't this the problem, the British have put their nationality first, claiming it is a geographical term. It probably wouldn't matter if the British, while in occupation of all Ireland, behaved themselves but they did not. And though they're gone, their attitude to Ireland hasn't changed much. And worst of all, they refuse to recognise the murderous policies they used & continue to use on the indigenous population - look what they have been up to in Northern Ireland where, when they have not taken part in death squads they have promoted ones from the Unionist population and now refuse to allow investigation of the murders of solicitors who defended IRA members. And the slaughter of Bloody Sunday (the one in Derry) - it took nearly 50 years and a number of investigations to approach the truth with only one soldier now having to answer for the "open season" on peaceful protestors. What about all the other shooters who seemed to enjoy themselves that day. And since there were others, it is clear that the actions were coordinated at a higher level, but of course, it would be inappropriate to hold one of the higher-ups to account.
@Canadian Mapping wow, thanks for explaining that to us. As an Irish man I didn't want to be called British but now that our English overlords have explained that it's a good thing, I feel much better. Now I can be proud of the horror and terror I have spread around the world as a good ol'Brit.
@@20quid International law does not recognize the term. The only international treaty I'm aware of, refers to "The council of Isles". It gives no name as it is contentious politically.
@@20quid Why does it need a name? What's the collective name for Corsica and Sardinia, for example? There isn't one. Probably because they are two different countries...
Excellent explanation. One little gripe - the anglo-saxons didn't push the Celts to the west. Modern DNA studies have shown that the Celts in modern day England people became culturally Anglo Saxon and took on the language and culture of the mercenaries who were hired after the Romans departed and left a vacuum , a bit like we're becoming culturally American now! Add in the Danes in the East and the Norwegians in the Northwest and you get a proper meting pot. I reference the place names near where I live Eccles-Celtic, Urmston-Saxon, Davyhulme - Norwegian. So as a Mancunian (Romano-celtic-saxon word) , I am more accurately a Skanglo-saxon-celt. I might have some ancestors from Holland.
Ireland isn't a British isle. Your said at the outset that you would introduce history to explain. You didn't mention that the British government as part of the anglo Irish agreement 1998 agreed with the Irish government to desist from referring to the British isles to include Ireland. The net result was dropping of that expression from all official documents and briefs.
Its a land mark it has nothing to do with countries and can not change all that can change is its name but any group of islands have a name weather there multiple countries or one country so that maps can easily distinguishe groups of islands. Donr care if u like it or not
Nathan Jones The Welsh will never leave the Union, there just to comfy to move and admit it you like being dominated by England plus England Scotland and Wales belong together in a union and at least it stop all of us from going to war with each other.
This is such a weak argument. The word used to mean x so it shouldn't ruffle any feathers. The term British has changed meanings, in a modern context this is derivative of Britain. Ireland is not British. End of. There is a bloody good reason why both governments do not use it to refer to the islands in official documents. It's tantamount to us calling it all the Irish isles.
Close - Hibernia actually means "winter" in Latin (it is the derivative of words like "hibernate"), however, it can also mean approximately "stormy" - as anyone who has ever been to Ireland knows, it rains on the Emerald Isle pretty much all the time.
@@maxfarley2519 Caledonia was not the name of Scotland it was a tribe in Scotland, Scotland was called Albania from Alba and yes it was and is part of Britannia.
The term the British Isles is an outdated Geographical term that is not recognised by the Irish Government nor by the Majority of Irish people living in Ireland.
No briton was not latin for celt lol . the word for celt in latin is Keltoi .briton was used to describe the celts from the island of britan, but was also applied to ireland as part of the preteni isles ,however most histrion suspect is because the greeks never visited ireland or their knowledge of ireland was very poor ,the irish are not britons they are gaels . pretni = chruthin in irish which were seen as invaders and foreigners . the romans also called the balgea gauls despite not being gaulish . they simply . they simply named the region after those they had the most contact with . Goidelic Irish name, Cruithne, is cognate with Brythonic Priteni.
As far as I'm aware, most experts are of the opinion that the Brittonic branch of the Celtic language had little to no influence in Ireland. Ireland's predominant lingua-cultural history is, of course, Goidelic, or Gaelic.the Goidelic and Brittonic branches of Insular Celtic are thought to have evolved simultaneously but on either side of the Irish Sea, in Ireland and Britain respectively, with the Goidelic branch being the more archaic of the two. the classical geographers were making presumptions on the basis of the unreliable observations and hearsay of others they never visted ireland . the Gallic Celts, called Ireland Ierne, and Britain Albion. the only british ever in ireland were the Chruthin who were invaders to the native population of ireland the Erainn, but the chruthin = Qreteni became assimilated by the irish so they became irish but arrived as invaders. the term british isles was created by british writers in the 16th century whos writings are described as propaganda .
They are the same people. It about culture and ancestry. They may hate it but Irish Are Britons ! LOOK at the history ... Druids ? We all come from Northern Spain ..
@@leshmahagow364 no the gaels came from celtic iberia the brytonnics came from gaul both celtic Think of it like Scandinavian germanic and german germanic
YES! Another Yorkshireman who realises the importance and brilliance of our esteemed land, God's Own County! Larger than NI, a greater economy than Wales, and more people than Scotland, Yorkshire is indeed the best shire of these fair isles, and I consider myself proud and blessed to be able to live here. An wi'v ussen aar oon wae o speech - een tha dunt reckon it, klap thi ain on t'-movie abaat knurr an spell; that'll oppen thi maand te t'-wonders o Taakish! (And we have our own method of speaking - if you don't believe me, watch the video about 'knurr and spell' (a game played only in Yorkshire, and can be watched on CZcams); it will open your mind to the wonder of the Yorkshire dialect!)
Simply put, I just love the British isles...They are like a "mini continet". Great video pal! I love them Scots and them Irish, drink team with the English and I am amasied at the "Vikings" of Northen Scotland and the unique Cornish and other celitic minorities. Like it or not guys, genetically and culturally you are all related. You are like us, the Balkans, a big happy disfunctional (and highly alcolic) familly. BLESS YOU :)
Except that Ireland is not one of the British Isles, just say Ireland and Britain or vice versa but please don’t use a pejorative term to describe our country. Ireland is an Irish isle, Britain is a British one. That’s it.
History With Hilbert love your videos buddy also maybe I'm quite dense or just very metaphorically short so this fact flew over my head, but I am having trouble figuring out your nationality/allegiance/ethnicity etc you have a very British English accent specific to some British locale, not the light RP you hear in, say, Indians educated at Oxford. And it also sounds flawlessly English, so I feel like you must be a native speaker. You live there, too, if I'm not mistaken. But then when you break into Dutch and any of its related languages they sound so natural. And of course you shed a single tear whenever a Dutch patriotic thing happens. You know tons about the history of both places. What's the dizzle?
How is it "for all intents and purposes?" That'd be like "For all intents and purposes, the Earth is in the solar system." It just is. It would imply that technically, the UK has claims in Ireland, but it was ceremonial at best. "For all intents and purposes, we agree that the first world war was caused by Archduke Ferdinand's death" because there were other factors, but that is the most important one, and the one you will need to know and will be taught. It's just the phrasing irks me, as if the UK has any claim over Ireland.
Tagann bratach nua-aimseartha na Breataine ó Acht Aontais 1800, a chonacthas go hÉirinn go hoifigiúil mar chuid den Ríocht Aontaithe agus go dtabharfaí ionadaíocht uirthi sa Pharlaimint, cé go minic go ndiúltódh BP na hÉireann ó dheas freastal ar Chruinnithe Parlaiminte. (The british modern flag comes from the Union Act 1800, which was officially seen as part of the United Kingdom and represented in Parliament, although the MP of Ireland often refused to attend Parliamentary Meetings.)
Can you do a video on England, and more specifically, when it was basically the Kingdom of Wessex and Winchester being the capital? :) I still find it interesting that London wasn't the capital for a long LONG time.
Interestingly, all peoples of the British Isles are technically Celtic, it was only the leadership of each peoples invading (Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans) that changed and demanded the local populous to bend the knee. Northern England and Wales (such as Yorkshire) are more linked to the people of Pre-Roman and Roman-Britain Scotland than Anglo-Saxons or Normans.
SirKrayg Oh wow...I wasn't hating as I said I was just taken back,always thought it was close bond,but with not having much of an accent people in Scotland would always think I was English and be hostile tbh,and when I would say that I was Southern Irish,they would cheer ???
@@StrathpefferJunction I don’t see why that would translate to hatred of the English people rather than the Westminster Government. It’s just ridiculous
@@deanstubbs827 What are you on about? My point (which was made two years ago) was that there's always been an independence movement in Scotland and this notion that the UK is 'a tight union' is ridiculous.
I agree with you Eíbhlin, the union isn’t tight, The Scottish have wanted out of the Union for years, and there’s a large rise in the same for independence in Wales also…. When it comes to sporting events you’ll find Scotland Ireland and Wales will cheer their own and any other team other than England.
Go look it up. "Since the partition of India, citizens of Pakistan (which became independent of British India in 1947) and Bangladesh (which became independent of Pakistan in 1971) often perceive the use of the Indian subcontinent as offensive and suspicious because of the dominant placement of India in the term. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent#Name
For multiple reasons, the Irish find the term "British Isles" a mixture of twee, nonsense and downright offensive. I can't even be bothered by the ignorance anymore.
I think what hes saying is we should all like british isles name because were all proto celtic atlantic people but technically if you split it into goidelic and brythonic then bryth would be brittany, cornwall and cymru.
@5:20 - you were doing well until you got to this point. Republic of Ireland is a football team. The name of our country is Ireland. Nowhere in an Irish passport will you see the words Republic of Ireland, because that's not the name of our country. Equally, on the blue rectangle on a car's registration plate, you see the letters IRL and not ROI. Article 4 of the Irish Constitution states clearly the name of the country: ARTICLE 4 The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland. Sadly your video only served to perpetuate the common error, which is such a shame as you clearly put some effort into the video. But also it demonstrates yet again that the people from the UK don't know the name of the country that they share a land border with and even post videos on the internet as testimony to that. They must be the only people in the world that don't know the name of their neighbour.
Ireland (Éire) isn't part of the British Isles. Ireland is part of the North Atlantic Archipelago, which also includes the British Isles. The Latin term "Britannia" that included Ireland was an uninformed and antiquated geographical term that fell out of favour once the Roman occupation left England in 410 AD. It regained popularity centuries later in the 17th century as a result of British nationalism and British propaganda. No one is triggered. We are simply trying to explain why the term British Isles only refers to Great Britain and the smaller isles (i.e. isle of man, isle of skye etc.) off of it's mainland. Ireland is completely it's own sovereign island with smaller isles off of it's mainland (i.e. Inishmore, Achill Island etc.). Caesar and his constituents got it wrong out of ignorance. Which is why it fell into obscurity as soon as the Romans left England. I mean, they also believed at the time the world was flat so.... their understanding geography was limited at best. Why perpetuate misleading and incorrect information?
British is a touchy word to the Irish. We can't escape our past and we as a nation have been dragged against our will into the dealings of the UK ' brexit latest example. Look its a geographical term but you have to understand Ireland to understand why we would never identify with the term British anything. The past is the past but we're proud of our independence and proud of our heritage we dont want to be seen as British.
lorcan O'Reilly is Dublin becoming Dublinistan like London is now Londonistan? It’s a serious question. I’m American with all Celtic, Irish blood...I don’t understand why after so many men died to be free you would have open borders...or am I wrong?
The Brexit negotiations aren't just Ireland's affair, they affect the entire EU. And the "letting Ireland call the shots" is because all the EU countries have agreed not to sign an agreement unless Ireland is happy with the border situation. It's providing the full weight of the EU behind Ireland's decision, this giving them more bargaining power. So yeah, they kind of are giving Ireland a privilege, but that is the privilege of running point on the negotiations.
although youre correct you still failed to acknowledge that when northern ireland was made, it was gerrymandered meaning nationalists didnt get equal votes and a majority of the island of ireland wanted to break away from great britain, you tell me how thats democratic?? not to mention there was a majority of nationalist catholic irishmen in tyrone and fermanagh but you know britain still needed some of us
No, it was created on religious grounds. And the Protestants of Ireland were more likely to be loyal to Britain, whereas the Catholics were more likely to be loyal to the Republic. It wasn't gerrymandered
sonofeast11 It is obviously Gerrymandered there were even irish protetstants who wanted a indentependent Ireland and to not be part of Britain.Till this very day many people in northern Ireland Catholic or protestant or athetist wants to be part of Ireland.Ireland wants that part of the country back.If unionists like Britain so much why don't they go over there and stay out of Ireland.
My understanding was that Britain referred to Britannia minor (England and Wales), while Great Britain referred to Britannia major (Britain plus Scotland)
Actually the modern county is Cumbria, not Cumberland. Cumberland and Westmorland combined to make Cumbria in 1974. You should know that if you're from Northumberland!
Love the videos usually but Irish aren't Bretons, Ireland was never called Little Britain, It's Derry, Ireland isn't part of the British Isles and I doubt you'd find many here welcoming to your dismissal of why it's so.
The Romans did not use the term the British isles so far as we know to refer to both Ireland and Britain. So no the term has not been used for millennia. So far as the Romans ever referred to Ireland at all they referred to it as Hibernia. There’s some references to the Northern Islands in ancient geography. Your comparison to Scandinavia is actually remarkably apposite. Back when Finland was not an independent country and most of what is modern Finland was part of Sweden, Finland was considered part of Scandinavia. Now that it’s independent it’s no longer considered a part of Scandinavia. Geographic terms exist in part to express geopolitical concepts, they’re not without connotation. The British used the term British Isles as part of their justification for their conquest of Ireland. The modern Irish government doesn’t accept the term British Isles as referring to both Ireland and Britain. And nor does subsumming Goidelic speaking people under the banner of Brythonic speaking people change the connotation very much, it still implies subordination of Ireland to Britain. You might want Irish people to like this term because of some romantic Celticist notions but the real implications of it no longer reflect modern political geography and are not especially useful in any case.
@@noodlyappendage6729 the only instances you might find of its use are in mistranslations of ancient texts by British scholars. Having done plenty of research I can assure you that the term is an entirely British invention which is localised in time to well within the parameters of a few centuries let alone millennia.
No need to put a welsh accent for Owen Glendower as it's an anglicisation of Owain Glyndwr. Or Owain Glyndwr was appropriated by the Welsh like Conway or Cardiff. The point being Glendower is an English name.
G-Rex Saurus It's an interesting point.... As Hilbert alluded to previously, the old English word for the native British was 'Wealas', literally meaning 'foreigners'. In fact, historical sources suggest that at one stage what is now today considered Wales was previously referred to as 'North Wales' and what roughly corresponds to what is Cornwall today was thus referred to as 'West Wales'. Furthermore, the suffix '-wall', as in Cornwall, comes from the same aforementioned root ! The prefix 'Corn-' came from the older Roman name for the Brythonic tribe that inhabited the area, being 'Cornovii'.
'Welsh' represents the word that the Germanic people used for all the subjects of the Roman Empire. The Anglo-Saxons applied it to the Britons, but the Germans applied it to the Gauls and the Italians.
In antiquated German foreigners in general and especially French are called "Welsch". There are also old words like "Welschkorn" for "Mais". The modern word "Walnuss" (walnut) also derives from "welsche Nuss" (foreign nut). And in Switzerland the French-speaking part of the country is called "Welschschweiz".
Unless Willem Alexander wants to get his face plastered on half the houses in Belfast by invading at the head of a huge Dutch army I think that ship has sailed xD
Brittany was part of the British "Empire" for hundreds of years before the Angles and Saxons turned up. Hence the language and name similarities. Great vid - I hope you have chance to look up some British/Khymric history away from the English prism. I think you will find it fascinating. Look up Alan Wilson as a starting point. Keep the vids coming - really enjoying them and good to see this stuff getting some coverage. BTW - Ireland was not really part of the pre-Angle British Empire and I can see the Irish point about not wanting to be referred to as part of Britain- historically they weren't. Just the Angles lumping all the natives together again
The Roman name for Brittany (western France) was "Amorica" . Today's England and modern day Brittany were both regions in Roman Empire. Brittany, France, was founded by British Celts fleeing the Saxons in the Dark Ages. There is even a district named "Cornouille" (Cornwall) in today's Brittany. Theory is that there was already a Celtic culture in France, the Gauls, when the Roman controlled what is now France. The Gauls were a different group of Celts to the Gaels.
2 things from an englishman brought up in ireland and who has lived in holland , in 1922 ireland became a free state "home rule" which in turn caused the civil war and why do you touch on the netherlands so much
Good try but a lot wrong. Cornwall is not and never has been a part of England. You missed the Channel Islands which like Cornwall and the Isle of Mann have the Legal right to their own Governments. All the parts make up Great Briton but Cornwall, Mann and the Channel Islands are not part of the UK, none of them has ever signed an Act of Union. The great definately comes from the relation to Brittany which even today is called Breton Vyghan in Cornish meaning Little Britain.
Typical moron who knows nothing. Cornwall was mentioned around the year 450 as a separate entity. England didn't exist until the 950's. If you do not know what your talking abut shut the f*** up. what the world does not need is another internet expert. Jersey, Guernsey, Sark, Cornwall and Mann all have the LEGAL right to their own Governments. Cornwalls is called the Stannary Parliament and Manns is called the Tynwald. Just keep out of things you obviously know nothing about
@@michaelchampion2955 Cornwall is a part of England, but was independent before, and Cornish is its own ethnicity. England is a multiethnic country, it is not something rare. I am from Russia, we have like >150 native ethnicities, and we are still one country
ditto as above. I dare say you know zero about cornwall and its legal position within the British constitution. Try reading the work of Dr John Kirkhope on it... you might actually learn something instead of posting uneducated trash
A number of years ago I tried to learn Dutch; and obviously on visiting The Netherlands I was keen to try it out. I went into a small shop to buy something and used my best Dutch to ask for it. The man behind the counter said to me - in perfect English - why are you trying to speak Dutch... we all speak English!! I am afraid that killed my enthusiasm to continue studying Dutch. Something I now regret!
Nobody ever said it such stark terms , but I when I lived in France I would speak a carefully thought out French Question and the Person would simply reply in English !
Even when you think you’re reasonable, you’re still full of crap. Most Irish people would not include our country as part of the british isles. It is irrelevant that you think it’s a geographical term. Put a stop to your arrogance. We don’t recognise it, so show some respect and stop including Ireland when you use that term.
I understand that the scottish flag provides the white outline for the red "Northern Irish" X cross, but why is there a white outline for the red English t cross? Maybe Wales can have that....
There was no "Scottish people" in the fifth century, and the Irish certainly didn't exist during the fifth century. Why do people keep making this odd mistake?
@@jacobomahoney8355 In fact Ireland had a high-king for over 2000 years at that time; and you can see the full list on Wikipedia. According to it and the Annals of the Four Masters Sláine mac Dela ruled from only 1 year from 1934 BC.
There was a Scottish people in the fifth century - they inhabited the island that is now called Ireland. As well as Hibernia, the Romans also called Ireland, Scotia and its inhabitants Scotti. Later, when the Dál Riada expanded to SW Scotland, they (the Romans) called Ireland Scotia Major and Scotland, Scotia minor. Of course there were no Irish in the fifth century; the term is English, a language which still did not exist. At that time, the people of Ireland communicated in Irish and when English kings and princes attended schools in Ireland they also learned Irish.
Enslaved? Why are you saying that, the welsh were treated kinda badly until the Tudors (During the Tudor times, even the Cornish were treated worse than the welsh)
@@sron-adharcach950 You might Like to study a little further the Tudor's were a Welsh dynasty ! So were in fact enslaving the English and the Cornish rather than the other way round
Oh Dear, young man, you failed in History and Geography all in one video. Where did you do your degree in History? Baffling! You left out the Flight of the Earls in 1607, and the theft of their Lands in Ulster. You left out the Plantation of Lowlands Scott's to Ireland 1640s Ireland was never considered a part of the British Isles, this was written into books by English and Welsh Writers in the 16th century. Please do some research before trying your luck on such videos. Ps. Brittany in France and Great Britain, now there is the facts.
The vision of the fighting dragons is from The Prophecies of Merlin. part of A History of the Kings of Britain by Geoffrey of Monmouth (circa 1100-1155).
no, the Celts were the Britons before the English invaded & used Celtic artifacts to justify their invasions of the lands they conquered. The term "British" today has been corrupted and is used to create a false sense of unity within the United Kingdom
'Celts' is a made up concept, originally by the Greeks referring to 'Keltoi' north of Macedonia, then the Romans referring to everyone north of the Alps, West of the Rhine as 'Celtae'. So even the origins of the terminology are confused.
How about (Greater)London as city-state within the state? Of course historically speaking there is no such thing and geographically it is part of England, but it does have a population, economy etc. greater than those of Scotland, Wales, or (Northern)Ireland and all?
Jerold Productions: a quick Google search reveals this (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_London); Greater London is an English County. Westminster is a city within the county and is the city in which sites such as the Houses of Parliament and Westminster Abbey are found. The City of London is an autonomous area within this.
It's not London Derry. It's Derry. You are very good with your facts, and I know that it's easy to give a critique, but as an Irish Republican I have to make a stand. Keep
up the good work.
They call it Angle-land because it's full of fucking squares.
The Irish always called Wales "Little Britain" (An Bhreatain Bheag).
The Romans called Ireland "Hibernia", not "Little Britain".
Yeah. I know.
You see what I did there
You’re both right. The Romans also called Ireland Britannia Minor
@@deanstubbs827 No they didn't. Now you're confusing Ireland with Brittany.
@@washerdryer3466 Yes, Ireland was called Little Britain.
I teach English abroad. I spend so much time trying to explain to kids that. "No, you can not just replace the term 'The UK', with 'England', they are not equivalent."
Welsh in fact is an old germanic word, still alive in my younger days in German language (but outdated nowadays) as "welsch", meaning foreigners, especially of romance languages (but could of course well work with celtic languages too). In the form "walsch" it is even today used by german speaking swiss people to denounce the romance speaking people of Switzerland.
Just fyi ;)
Aye I believe the famous fusiliers were (possibly still are) called the Welch Fusiliers.
Volker Wendt Walsh, sometimes Welsh is a large tribe in Ireland and funny enough, the Irish Gaelic for the surname is Breathnach, which probably could be translated as British person. In many rural areas the name is pronounced Welsh
To denounce Romansch speakers? That’s sad.
The Welsh called themselves Cymry - friends
The British isles is not a generally accepted term in Ireland, some people don't mind it, but the vast majority of Irish people view it as politicized, and as a territorial claim. Which given Ireland is a republic that fought for its sovereignty, is a big no no.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles_naming_dispute
The UK government recognises this and no longer uses the term, rather refers to the islands as "these isles" or "Britain and Ireland" as does the Irish government.
Also the Official name for the republic of Ireland is just "Ireland".
Honestly this is like the irish equivalent of calling Pakistan, India (people will get very annoyed).
You forgot about the channel Islands. They are part of the British Isles.
Lord Skeptic Manx and Cornish too
Yes . He did coz he was too focused at having a go at the Irish by including us in his glorious colonial past.
You are perfectly correct, the channel islands are part of the British Isles, but not part of the Celtic Isles. The British Isles, as you point out, means those isles which are under the British jurisdiction. Geographically, the Channel Islands are off the coast of France and therefore not part of geographical islands that are Britain and Ireland - The Celtic Isles is a much more accurate term for those two countries
@@aishalotter9995 they mentioned the Isle of man and Cornwall.
Cornwall is part of England.
The British Isles is the Archipelago which the Channel Islands aren’t geographically part of due to their location off the coast of France. But they are “considered” part of them though aren’t actually.
Can you do history on different English accents? Because there so many interesting accents with in Britain.
I've been thinking about doing this soon :)
History With Hilbert i thought the Northumberland and Geordie accent were pretty interesting, I also watch a few other videos about this and they were saying that's these are the oldest accent in Britain, I might be wrong tho. Thank you for making good content they don't tech in school.
How can Geordie be the oldest in uk when Cymraeg were here long before the English language was invented
Thanks for mentioning Kernow aka Cornwall. Our claim is that we are the only Celtic part of what is politically England, and the only part with a distinct language. British Isles is a purely geographical term so clearly includes all of Ireland and the Isle of Man (which has its own parliament and sets its own taxes, like the Channel Islands).
Welshman here, fully in support of Cornish independence
I am very interested in cornish language and Cornwall and is basically Ireland little brother yeah I am Irish and want a Scottland Wales 🏴, Cornwall, and Isle of man and United Ireland
one day I hope Cornwall can become a self governing member of the united kingdom. the culture is too distinct form the rest of England, its nearly ads bad as trying to say wales is just another part of England. should this happen i believe there is a good chance of the Cornish language having a proper revival.
@@TheXenomorphGuySMSE just because it’s a different culture doesn’t mean it should look for independence. Look at American 50 states and many cultures and yet they remained United to be the global superpower today.
@@maxdavis7722 i didn't say independence. i Said a self governing part of the uk. that is literally what every US state is. self governing part of the union. incase you didnt know, the united kingdom is a country made pof of 4 smaller countries which all have different laws, similar to the US states. what im saying is cornwall should be one of these countries
The reason not to call us the British Isles is because it is offensive to 5 million people. No one here refers to it as the British Isles, and having an English person tell us we shouldn't mind is worse. The English don't get to decide what everything is called. You're not in charge anymore!
The Latin name for Ireland was Hibernian, Scotland was Caledonia was not called little Britain by the Romans. Great Britain was to differentiate between lesser Britain/Brittany.
England, Wales and Cornwall= Britannia.
Scotland, Mann and Northern England= Caledonia.
Ireland and Northern Ireland= Hibernia.
Ireland has had many names in the past. Little Britain was one of them.
@@noodlyappendage6729 Source please? That's utter hogwash. Bhreatana Beag (Little Britain) is Irish Gaelic for Wales - Little Britain.
@@AnnesleyPlaceDub70 Before you tell me I’m talking bollocks look it up. Ireland was referred to as Little Britain at the same time Albion was referred to as Great Britain.
@@noodlyappendage6729 you and Ptolemy were talking bollix so.
Ireland was never "Britain" in any way shape size or form. Two separate islands thank fuck.
Gruffyd ap llywelyn was also kinda the braveheart of Wales he resisted Edward longshanks for many years before William Wallace this happened just after Edward returned from the crusade
Eventually you'll get Canadians saying they're not part of the American continent, and it should be referred to the American continent and Canada.
can't compare a continent to an archipelago . both ireland and britain are part of the content of europe .
Is that an attempt at logic for something?
So why not include USA and Canada as British isles?
They were both British overseas possessions one time same as Ireland?
@Canadian Mapping calling Ireland British is exactly that.
@Canadian Mapping Yes, I agree, never put nationally in front of geography, but isn't that exactly what the British have done (in the original subject of this discussion).
@@philipbrennan4214 it’s not nationality it’s just the name of the biggest island and the others.
Ireland is not a British Isle. The Majority of Ireland lies mainly in Irish Territorial waters not British Territorial waters. The Majority of citizens on the Island of Ireland are Irish citizens not British citizens. Ireland can no longer be called a British Isle since it regained its Independence and Territorial waters in 1922. Most Irish citizens find the term offensive. It is very much a political term once the word British is used.
What confuses me the most is the difference between Great Britain and the tiny isles of crown depencies and some other fancy stuff which isn't really Britain but something else of the Queen. Would be nice when you could explain this, too.
This is a good suggestion. I watched another video (not Hilbert's) explaining the proper nomenclature for all of the lands Britain has (generally speaking), but in the video, they state the proper term for all Britain has is called the Greater British Isles, if I am not mistaken. :-)
Edit: I corrected the title to be the "GreatER British Isles" (not just "Great").
It was all going great until he said Londonderry
Kevc00
OK .... Luggderry !
Happy Now ?
It was named Londonderry by Royal Charter 1662, and a 2007 court ruling showed that is still the city's official name. There have been attempts to officially change the name of the city to Derry as recently as 2015 but until that happens Londonderry is just as correct despite people's hurt feelings.
Ireland speak england it British teritoria! Iris speak no eire anymor only som %. Now dey vant be englandis anglosaksons.
@@turkoositerapsidi from the way you type you can tell your not from here and you clearly from what I can tell from your fucked up English is you know nothing about ireland
@@themorebike880 always, always make sure your grammar and punctuation are correct before you criticise others.
I am not think it is quite accurate to call Strongbow "English. He was Norman. The Normans invaded England in 1066 and became the aristocracy which slowly became English speaking. The Norman invasion of Ireland followed a similar pattern. They became the aristocracy and slowly turned Irish. So Strongbow (Gilbert de Clare) was Norman, spoke French and grew up in Wales. His ancestors were Vikings.
They refer to him as an Anglo-Norman.
do a video on the history of wales!!
This is information that textbooks' writers here in Russia will never get into their heads. Still will continue to call UK "England"
In some of English language text books the whole of the old Soviet Union was refered to as "Russia".
I find the term The British Isles highly offensive. I am from the Republic of Ireland. We are both not in the UK or the Commonwealth of Nations. We are IRISH and NOT BRITISH.
Great video
Thanks
So many problems with this video.
1) Today British refers almost exclusively to the modern British state, not to the ancient Celtic culture which is instead usually referred to as Brythonic/Brittonic.
As an example, when thinking of British accents, people always assume English accents, the dominant part of the British state, rather than Welsh, who are actually a Brythonic Celtic people.
2) Brythonic ≠ Celtic. Ireland was never Brythonic, it was inhabited by Gaelic people, who are a related but distinct group from the Celtic Britons.
It would be like saying that England should be happy to be called Frankish, because both the Franks and Anglo-Saxons were Germanic people.
Really condescending attitude.
3) Its not a native name. The name may have a long history, but it was coined by Greeks who lived a long fucking way away and didn't have a clue what they were talking about.
It was never used by native writers, English, Irish or Welsh, during the medieval period, who used other names such as Oceanii insulae, the oceanic islands or islands of the ocean.
4) It first entered English usage in the 16th Century.
By this time the English Crown had been attempting to colonise Ireland since 1169, using the Laudabiliter as justification, this was a papal bull granting the English monarchs the Lordship of Ireland as a papal fief.
Upon splitting with the Catholic Church, King Henry VIII needed to re-affirm his legitimate authority in Ireland, which had previously stemmed from Papal authority.
To do this, he had Ireland declared a Kingdom, rather than a papal fief as it had been previously, with himself as the King. He also annexed the Principality of Wales, even though English power in Wales had never come from Papal authority.
It was during this period that the long defunct and inaccurate Greek term was resurrected, along with pseudo histories that King Arthur, as King of the Britons, had held suzerainty over Ireland. This created a fictional precedent that Ireland was part of a natural British political unit, which was decisively not true.
5) Geographic terms and political terms are not mutually exclusive. To quote Hozier, "anything related to the human experience is political".
Today, British is understood as a political term, and inherently has political implications, even if not used in an explicitly political sense. This is why organisations covering both islands, such as the British and Irish Lions, the British-Irish Parliamentary Assembly or British-Irish Council do not use the term British Isles in their names.
Insisting that British Isles is merely geographical is again ignorant and condescending.
Ireland is part of the same geographical archipelago as the UK. That archipelago is not British.
The comment that Irish people should be proud to be called a British Isle is a lame excuse so you can continue to use a lazy catch-all term and lump us in with the UK for convenience. Citizens of the United Kingdom are called British people. We are citizens of Ireland and called Irish. This is MY objection to the term British isle. It just confuses foreign people when we are not British (i.e. not part of the UK) but yet somehow part of the British Isles.
You could say that country related terminology needs to change over all across Ireland and the UK as it's confusing but I will not have someone say I should be proud to be called British because of some largely obsolete Celtic connection (Irish traditionally spoke a Godellic branch of Celtic anyway and not Brittonic so you're really reaching). I'm not anti-UK at all but I'm fiercely proud of Ireland's political and cultural independence and want there to be no confusion in seeing us as a completely separate entity from the United Kingdom. Irish people are not British people in the modern day sense of the word.
Then if it's not the British Isles, what is the name for the archipelago that Ireland is clearly a part of?
@Canadian Mapping Not put nationality before geography? But isn't this the problem, the British have put their nationality first, claiming it is a geographical term. It probably wouldn't matter if the British, while in occupation of all Ireland, behaved themselves but they did not. And though they're gone, their attitude to Ireland hasn't changed much. And worst of all, they refuse to recognise the murderous policies they used & continue to use on the indigenous population - look what they have been up to in Northern Ireland where, when they have not taken part in death squads they have promoted ones from the Unionist population and now refuse to allow investigation of the murders of solicitors who defended IRA members. And the slaughter of Bloody Sunday (the one in Derry) - it took nearly 50 years and a number of investigations to approach the truth with only one soldier now having to answer for the "open season" on peaceful protestors. What about all the other shooters who seemed to enjoy themselves that day. And since there were others, it is clear that the actions were coordinated at a higher level, but of course, it would be inappropriate to hold one of the higher-ups to account.
@Canadian Mapping wow, thanks for explaining that to us. As an Irish man I didn't want to be called British but now that our English overlords have explained that it's a good thing, I feel much better. Now I can be proud of the horror and terror I have spread around the world as a good ol'Brit.
@@20quid International law does not recognize the term. The only international treaty I'm aware of, refers to "The council of Isles". It gives no name as it is contentious politically.
@@20quid Why does it need a name? What's the collective name for Corsica and Sardinia, for example? There isn't one. Probably because they are two different countries...
Excellent explanation. One little gripe - the anglo-saxons didn't push the Celts to the west. Modern DNA studies have shown that the Celts in modern day England people became culturally Anglo Saxon and took on the language and culture of the mercenaries who were hired after the Romans departed and left a vacuum , a bit like we're becoming culturally American now! Add in the Danes in the East and the Norwegians in the Northwest and you get a proper meting pot. I reference the place names near where I live Eccles-Celtic, Urmston-Saxon, Davyhulme - Norwegian. So as a Mancunian (Romano-celtic-saxon word) , I am more accurately a Skanglo-saxon-celt. I might have some ancestors from Holland.
The Anglo-Saxons didn’t push all the Brits west. Many stayed. But many did move out.
Ireland isn't a British isle.
Your said at the outset that you would introduce history to explain.
You didn't mention that the British government as part of the anglo Irish agreement 1998 agreed with the Irish government to desist from referring to the British isles to include Ireland. The net result was dropping of that expression from all official documents and briefs.
Its a land mark it has nothing to do with countries and can not change all that can change is its name but any group of islands have a name weather there multiple countries or one country so that maps can easily distinguishe groups of islands. Donr care if u like it or not
@@javierhillier4252 Such a stupid thing to say.
As an Englishman I feel Welsh should be represented on the flag.
Fuck no, hoping us Welsh leave the UK soon
Nathan Jones The Welsh will never leave the Union, there just to comfy to move and admit it you like being dominated by England plus England Scotland and Wales belong together in a union and at least it stop all of us from going to war with each other.
@@foundationofBritain The English is the problem, get rid of English then the Real Britannia is whole again
@@ARMY2014 but in the ancient times Welsh wanted Red Dragon to fly over the whole of Britain, it is in their legends
@@ARMY2014 And English are just Britons who switched to Germanic language earlier than others
This is such a weak argument. The word used to mean x so it shouldn't ruffle any feathers. The term British has changed meanings, in a modern context this is derivative of Britain. Ireland is not British. End of. There is a bloody good reason why both governments do not use it to refer to the islands in official documents. It's tantamount to us calling it all the Irish isles.
I thought the Romans called Ireland Hibernia the land of the rain or something like that
I believe that's true, and Britannia was only the area of land that they conquered (so England and Wales) :P
Britannia was used to mean the entire island of britian by julius caesar and the romans in general .
Close - Hibernia actually means "winter" in Latin (it is the derivative of words like "hibernate"), however, it can also mean approximately "stormy" - as anyone who has ever been to Ireland knows, it rains on the Emerald Isle pretty much all the time.
@@thenextshenanigantownandth4393 The Romans called Scotland Caledonia, it was not considered to be a part of Britannia.
@@maxfarley2519 Caledonia was not the name of Scotland it was a tribe in Scotland, Scotland was called Albania from Alba and yes it was and is part of Britannia.
The term the British Isles is an outdated Geographical term that is not recognised by the Irish Government nor by the Majority of Irish people living in Ireland.
Merlin had the vision of the Dragons I think.
As an Irish man I always understood that they were called the British Isles because Briton was Latin for celt
No briton was not latin for celt lol . the word for celt in latin is Keltoi .briton was used to describe the celts from the island of britan, but was also applied to ireland as part of the preteni isles ,however most histrion suspect is because the greeks never visited ireland or their knowledge of ireland was very poor ,the irish are not britons they are gaels . pretni = chruthin in irish which were seen as invaders and foreigners . the romans also called the balgea gauls despite not being gaulish . they simply . they simply named the region after those they had the most contact with .
Goidelic Irish name, Cruithne, is cognate with Brythonic Priteni.
As far as I'm aware, most experts are of the opinion that the Brittonic branch of the Celtic language had little to no influence in Ireland. Ireland's predominant lingua-cultural history is, of course, Goidelic, or Gaelic.the Goidelic and Brittonic branches of Insular Celtic are thought to have evolved simultaneously but on either side of the Irish Sea, in Ireland and Britain respectively, with the Goidelic branch being the more archaic of the two.
the classical geographers were making presumptions on the basis of the unreliable observations and hearsay of others they never visted ireland . the Gallic Celts, called Ireland Ierne, and Britain Albion.
the only british ever in ireland were the Chruthin who were invaders to the native population of ireland the Erainn, but the chruthin = Qreteni became assimilated by the irish so they became irish but arrived as invaders.
the term british isles was created by british writers in the 16th century whos writings are described as propaganda .
They are the same people. It about culture and ancestry. They may hate it but Irish Are Britons !
LOOK at the history ... Druids ?
We all come from Northern Spain ..
@@leshmahagow364 no the gaels came from celtic iberia the brytonnics came from gaul both celtic
Think of it like Scandinavian germanic and german germanic
YES! Another Yorkshireman who realises the importance and brilliance of our esteemed land, God's Own County! Larger than NI, a greater economy than Wales, and more people than Scotland, Yorkshire is indeed the best shire of these fair isles, and I consider myself proud and blessed to be able to live here.
An wi'v ussen aar oon wae o speech - een tha dunt reckon it, klap thi ain on t'-movie abaat knurr an spell; that'll oppen thi maand te t'-wonders o Taakish!
(And we have our own method of speaking - if you don't believe me, watch the video about 'knurr and spell' (a game played only in Yorkshire, and can be watched on CZcams); it will open your mind to the wonder of the Yorkshire dialect!)
Interesting. I didn’t know Yorkshire had a bigger landmass then Northern Ireland. I find out the other day that Ulster is larger then Wales.
I'm from Yorkshire I think the population of the county is 5.3 million
Do one on the diffrence between Holland and the Netherlands next.
Planned it ;)
Simply put, I just love the British isles...They are like a "mini continet". Great video pal! I love them Scots and them Irish, drink team with the English and I am amasied at the "Vikings" of Northen Scotland and the unique Cornish and other celitic minorities. Like it or not guys, genetically and culturally you are all related. You are like us, the Balkans, a big happy disfunctional (and highly alcolic) familly. BLESS YOU :)
Except that Ireland is not one of the British Isles, just say Ireland and Britain or vice versa but please don’t use a pejorative term to describe our country. Ireland is an Irish isle, Britain is a British one. That’s it.
4:23 It's actually called Cumbria now, and is made up of what was Cumberland, Westmorland, and parts of Lancashire. The change was made in 1974.
Uh "for all intensive purposes" 5:59
buddy
did you say this ironically
or do you not know it's "for all intents and purposes"
I listened back and with my accent that's what it sounds like but I assure you I used the proper phrase ;)
History With Hilbert love your videos buddy
also maybe I'm quite dense or just very metaphorically short so this fact flew over my head, but I am having trouble figuring out your nationality/allegiance/ethnicity etc
you have a very British English accent specific to some British locale, not the light RP you hear in, say, Indians educated at Oxford. And it also sounds flawlessly English, so I feel like you must be a native speaker. You live there, too, if I'm not mistaken.
But then when you break into Dutch and any of its related languages they sound so natural. And of course you shed a single tear whenever a Dutch patriotic thing happens.
You know tons about the history of both places.
What's the dizzle?
How is it "for all intents and purposes?" That'd be like "For all intents and purposes, the Earth is in the solar system." It just is. It would imply that technically, the UK has claims in Ireland, but it was ceremonial at best.
"For all intents and purposes, we agree that the first world war was caused by Archduke Ferdinand's death" because there were other factors, but that is the most important one, and the one you will need to know and will be taught.
It's just the phrasing irks me, as if the UK has any claim over Ireland.
Tagann bratach nua-aimseartha na Breataine ó Acht Aontais 1800, a chonacthas go hÉirinn go hoifigiúil mar chuid den Ríocht Aontaithe agus go dtabharfaí ionadaíocht uirthi sa Pharlaimint, cé go minic go ndiúltódh BP na hÉireann ó dheas freastal ar Chruinnithe Parlaiminte. (The british modern flag comes from the Union Act 1800, which was officially seen as part of the United Kingdom and represented in Parliament, although the MP of Ireland often refused to attend Parliamentary Meetings.)
Maith thú a Mharcuis, ná bac leis an leagan Sach bhearla!
It is like there was a hierarchy for a while in the isles with Norman's at the top, Anglo Saxons in the middle, and Celts at the very bottom yeah
Look forward to a Glyndwr video.
Ireland is NOT part of The British Isles.
Can you do a video on England, and more specifically, when it was basically the Kingdom of Wessex and Winchester being the capital? :) I still find it interesting that London wasn't the capital for a long LONG time.
Interestingly, all peoples of the British Isles are technically Celtic, it was only the leadership of each peoples invading (Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans) that changed and demanded the local populous to bend the knee.
Northern England and Wales (such as Yorkshire) are more linked to the people of Pre-Roman and Roman-Britain Scotland than Anglo-Saxons or Normans.
Half of Europe is (was) Celtic.
I was shocked when I was in both Scotland and Wales and hearing their disdain for the English ...Always thought it was a tight union ?!?
SirKrayg Oh wow...I wasn't hating as I said I was just taken back,always thought it was close bond,but with not having much of an accent people in Scotland would always think I was English and be hostile tbh,and when I would say that I was Southern Irish,they would cheer ???
Why on earth would you have thought that? In Scotland particularly, there's always be a strong independence movement.
@@StrathpefferJunction I don’t see why that would translate to hatred of the English people rather than the Westminster Government. It’s just ridiculous
@@deanstubbs827 What are you on about? My point (which was made two years ago) was that there's always been an independence movement in Scotland and this notion that the UK is 'a tight union' is ridiculous.
I agree with you Eíbhlin, the union isn’t tight, The Scottish have wanted out of the Union for years, and there’s a large rise in the same for independence in Wales also…. When it comes to sporting events you’ll find Scotland Ireland and Wales will cheer their own and any other team other than England.
I love ur vids, and have been binge watching them. I hope u make many more and get much more subs
Intensive purposes is not a phrase! It's "for all intents and purposes"
Thought I already posted this but Wales in Irish is Little Britain.
I don't see any Pakistanis complaining about the term 'Indian Subcontinent'.
Go look it up. "Since the partition of India, citizens of Pakistan (which became independent of British India in 1947) and Bangladesh (which became independent of Pakistan in 1971) often perceive the use of the Indian subcontinent as offensive and suspicious because of the dominant placement of India in the term. " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent#Name
It is not Londonderry it's simply Derry
Tomas Lynch It's about as logical as Manchesterbelfast.
Tomas Lynch no it's Derry/Londonderry officially and the county is Londonderry.
Ya but the first six letters of Londonderry are silent
Tomas Lynch No it's not but to each there own
Jerold Productions It was called Derry before the English ever stepped foot on Ireland
For multiple reasons, the Irish find the term "British Isles" a mixture of twee, nonsense and downright offensive. I can't even be bothered by the ignorance anymore.
Northumbrian and proud my dude
Fermanagh is actually pronouced Fer-man-a. other than that very informative video.
Indeed it is! 👍
Hmm that white rose is nice, almost as good as a more colourful one 😊
I think what hes saying is we should all like british isles name because were all proto celtic atlantic people but technically if you split it into goidelic and brythonic then bryth would be brittany, cornwall and cymru.
@5:20 - you were doing well until you got to this point. Republic of Ireland is a football team. The name of our country is Ireland. Nowhere in an Irish passport will you see the words Republic of Ireland, because that's not the name of our country. Equally, on the blue rectangle on a car's registration plate, you see the letters IRL and not ROI. Article 4 of the Irish Constitution states clearly the name of the country:
ARTICLE 4
The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland.
Sadly your video only served to perpetuate the common error, which is such a shame as you clearly put some effort into the video. But also it demonstrates yet again that the people from the UK don't know the name of the country that they share a land border with and even post videos on the internet as testimony to that. They must be the only people in the world that don't know the name of their neighbour.
Why do you have the Brittany flag on the video icon instead of the St Perran flag for Cornwall?
Red and white dragon is also in High School DxD
Ireland (Éire) isn't part of the British Isles. Ireland is part of the North Atlantic Archipelago, which also includes the British Isles. The Latin term "Britannia" that included Ireland was an uninformed and antiquated geographical term that fell out of favour once the Roman occupation left England in 410 AD. It regained popularity centuries later in the 17th century as a result of British nationalism and British propaganda. No one is triggered. We are simply trying to explain why the term British Isles only refers to Great Britain and the smaller isles (i.e. isle of man, isle of skye etc.) off of it's mainland. Ireland is completely it's own sovereign island with smaller isles off of it's mainland (i.e. Inishmore, Achill Island etc.). Caesar and his constituents got it wrong out of ignorance. Which is why it fell into obscurity as soon as the Romans left England. I mean, they also believed at the time the world was flat so.... their understanding geography was limited at best. Why perpetuate misleading and incorrect information?
Wrong mate. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology_of_the_British_Isles
Sasana agus Éireann go brách.
oisín monaghan you’re not very smart
Good vid mate.
British is a touchy word to the Irish. We can't escape our past and we as a nation have been dragged against our will into the dealings of the UK ' brexit latest example. Look its a geographical term but you have to understand Ireland to understand why we would never identify with the term British anything. The past is the past but we're proud of our independence and proud of our heritage we dont want to be seen as British.
But now the EU is letting Ireland call the shots on Brexit Border negotiations and *it's time for revenge.*
lorcan O'Reilly is Dublin becoming Dublinistan like London is now Londonistan? It’s a serious question. I’m American with all Celtic, Irish blood...I don’t understand why after so many men died to be free you would have open borders...or am I wrong?
@@MarkusAldawn you say it like the EU is giving you the privilege to run your own affairs.
The Brexit negotiations aren't just Ireland's affair, they affect the entire EU. And the "letting Ireland call the shots" is because all the EU countries have agreed not to sign an agreement unless Ireland is happy with the border situation. It's providing the full weight of the EU behind Ireland's decision, this giving them more bargaining power.
So yeah, they kind of are giving Ireland a privilege, but that is the privilege of running point on the negotiations.
Not true. The British Isles are populated by Bretons. The Irish are Bretons. The same people the same culture the same religion.
Ask the Greeks
I have a Whitwyrmark (as I call it) above my altar, Saxon, Heathen and very fucking proud to come from the Anglo-Celtic Isles! Engla Tocyme!
The ‘British Isles’ is a more superior and accurate name.
The crowns united after Elizabeth the 1st died but the countries didn't become united until the Acts of Union in 1707 so your wrong
Aye but the flag does go back to James' time, the first flag of the Saltire and Saint George's Cross date back to 1606.
Yes thats correct but the flag you used didn't come into existence until 1707.
although youre correct you still failed to acknowledge that when northern ireland was made, it was gerrymandered meaning nationalists didnt get equal votes and a majority of the island of ireland wanted to break away from great britain, you tell me how thats democratic?? not to mention there was a majority of nationalist catholic irishmen in tyrone and fermanagh but you know britain still needed some of us
No, it was created on religious grounds. And the Protestants of Ireland were more likely to be loyal to Britain, whereas the Catholics were more likely to be loyal to the Republic. It wasn't gerrymandered
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Ireland_protestants_1861-1991.gif
It was gerrymandered if you want to go research the topic
sonofeast11 It is obviously Gerrymandered there were even irish protetstants who wanted a indentependent Ireland and to not be part of Britain.Till this very day many people in northern Ireland Catholic or protestant or athetist wants to be part of Ireland.Ireland wants that part of the country back.If unionists like Britain so much why don't they go over there and stay out of Ireland.
If the northern Irish wanted to be a part of Ireland so much why didn't they vote for it? oh wait...
My understanding was that Britain referred to Britannia minor (England and Wales), while Great Britain referred to Britannia major (Britain plus Scotland)
Actually the modern county is Cumbria, not Cumberland. Cumberland and Westmorland combined to make Cumbria in 1974. You should know that if you're from Northumberland!
Love the videos usually but Irish aren't Bretons, Ireland was never called Little Britain, It's Derry, Ireland isn't part of the British Isles and I doubt you'd find many here welcoming to your dismissal of why it's so.
I'm American and I have ancestors from all of these countries and my name is Nederlandse.. Het Wilhelmus so my blood is of course... Orange
9:25 Portugal doesn't exist?
xD
Hadn't noticed that until now
no it does not
You really think there was a country that liked the british ? Haha thats funny
@@sanguinespirit2397 Say yo who speeak in corekt britis langua.
There's should be green color for Wales 🏴
You forgot the Northern-Irish flag in your thumbnail?
And you forgot the isle of man, you should've mentioned it earlier :(
Northern Ireland doesn't have an official flag anymore. The Isle of Man is not part of the UK.
The Romans did not use the term the British isles so far as we know to refer to both Ireland and Britain. So no the term has not been used for millennia. So far as the Romans ever referred to Ireland at all they referred to it as Hibernia. There’s some references to the Northern Islands in ancient geography.
Your comparison to Scandinavia is actually remarkably apposite. Back when Finland was not an independent country and most of what is modern Finland was part of Sweden, Finland was considered part of Scandinavia. Now that it’s independent it’s no longer considered a part of Scandinavia. Geographic terms exist in part to express geopolitical concepts, they’re not without connotation. The British used the term British Isles as part of their justification for their conquest of Ireland. The modern Irish government doesn’t accept the term British Isles as referring to both Ireland and Britain. And nor does subsumming Goidelic speaking people under the banner of Brythonic speaking people change the connotation very much, it still implies subordination of Ireland to Britain. You might want Irish people to like this term because of some romantic Celticist notions but the real implications of it no longer reflect modern political geography and are not especially useful in any case.
The British Isles is most certainly a term that has been in use for millennia. Do some research!!
@@noodlyappendage6729 the only instances you might find of its use are in mistranslations of ancient texts by British scholars. Having done plenty of research I can assure you that the term is an entirely British invention which is localised in time to well within the parameters of a few centuries let alone millennia.
I think the oldest attestations of use of the term are maybe 16th century? When English colonisation of Ireland was in full swing...
@@FumerieHilaire Nonsense. 🤦♂️ and what were these mistranslations my I ask?
It's called Great Britain because it's great. I mean it's just fantastic.
No need to put a welsh accent for Owen Glendower as it's an anglicisation of Owain Glyndwr. Or Owain Glyndwr was appropriated by the Welsh like Conway or Cardiff. The point being Glendower is an English name.
Aren't Italians called Welscher as well in the Alps? Also Wallachia comes from Vlach that also comes from that word, interesting.
G-Rex Saurus It's an interesting point.... As Hilbert alluded to previously, the old English word for the native British was 'Wealas', literally meaning 'foreigners'. In fact, historical sources suggest that at one stage what is now today considered Wales was previously referred to as 'North Wales' and what roughly corresponds to what is Cornwall today was thus referred to as 'West Wales'. Furthermore, the suffix '-wall', as in Cornwall, comes from the same aforementioned root ! The prefix 'Corn-' came from the older Roman name for the Brythonic tribe that inhabited the area, being 'Cornovii'.
'Welsh' represents the word that the Germanic people used for all the subjects of the Roman Empire. The Anglo-Saxons applied it to the Britons, but the Germans applied it to the Gauls and the Italians.
In antiquated German foreigners in general and especially French are called "Welsch". There are also old words like "Welschkorn" for "Mais". The modern word "Walnuss" (walnut) also derives from "welsche Nuss" (foreign nut). And in Switzerland the French-speaking part of the country is called "Welschschweiz".
And the Goths applied it to the Romanians and the other Latin-speaking groups in the Balkans. Hence Wallachia and Vlach.
And don´t forget the Walloons, which is the French speaking Belgians.
Wait. You're from Lancashire? Your last name doesn't happen to be Crenshaw?
5:58 Are you saying that our claim on Britain and Ireland has expired?
Damn it.
Unless Willem Alexander wants to get his face plastered on half the houses in Belfast by invading at the head of a huge Dutch army I think that ship has sailed xD
Brittany was part of the British "Empire" for hundreds of years before the Angles and Saxons turned up. Hence the language and name similarities. Great vid - I hope you have chance to look up some British/Khymric history away from the English prism. I think you will find it fascinating. Look up Alan Wilson as a starting point. Keep the vids coming - really enjoying them and good to see this stuff getting some coverage. BTW - Ireland was not really part of the pre-Angle British Empire and I can see the Irish point about not wanting to be referred to as part of Britain- historically they weren't. Just the Angles lumping all the natives together again
The Roman name for Brittany (western France) was "Amorica" . Today's England and modern day Brittany were both regions in Roman Empire. Brittany, France, was founded by British Celts fleeing the Saxons in the Dark Ages. There is even a district named "Cornouille" (Cornwall) in today's Brittany. Theory is that there was already a Celtic culture in France, the Gauls, when the Roman controlled what is now France. The Gauls were a different group of Celts to the Gaels.
Wrong flag for England buddy
2 things from an englishman brought up in ireland and who has lived in holland , in 1922 ireland became a free state "home rule" which in turn caused the civil war and why do you touch on the netherlands so much
right he sounds english but that doesnt mean much lol
Yes, I'm a Dutchman who grew up in England :)
cool man i loved my year in holland and picked up dutch fast, they are very similar which made it easy, great videos
Another great video Hillbilly
Celtic language was banned in Ireland by the British. People were killed if they spoke it. Its very hard to keep a language alive but they are trying.
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I am from Russia. Thanks, at least someone does not hate us. (But Putin is bad for us, so I am not against hating him)
I love the history :-)
Good try but a lot wrong. Cornwall is not and never has been a part of England. You missed the Channel Islands which like Cornwall and the Isle of Mann have the Legal right to their own Governments. All the parts make up Great Briton but Cornwall, Mann and the Channel Islands are not part of the UK, none of them has ever signed an Act of Union. The great definately comes from the relation to Brittany which even today is called Breton Vyghan in Cornish meaning Little Britain.
Typical moron who knows nothing. Cornwall was mentioned around the year 450 as a separate entity. England didn't exist until the 950's. If you do not know what your talking abut shut the f*** up. what the world does not need is another internet expert. Jersey, Guernsey, Sark, Cornwall and Mann all have the LEGAL right to their own Governments. Cornwalls is called the Stannary Parliament and Manns is called the Tynwald. Just keep out of things you obviously know nothing about
@@michaelchampion2955 Cornwall is a part of England, but was independent before, and Cornish is its own ethnicity. England is a multiethnic country, it is not something rare. I am from Russia, we have like >150 native ethnicities, and we are still one country
ditto as above. I dare say you know zero about cornwall and its legal position within the British constitution. Try reading the work of Dr John Kirkhope on it... you might actually learn something instead of posting uneducated trash
Where does Cornwall fit into this geographic jigsaw puzzle?
Watch til the end ;)
What is the black and white almost American flag at the bottom of the thumbnail?
that’s the flag for Brittany
A number of years ago I tried to learn Dutch; and obviously on visiting The Netherlands I was keen to try it out. I went into a small shop to buy something and used my best Dutch to ask for it. The man behind the counter said to me - in perfect English - why are you trying to speak Dutch... we all speak English!! I am afraid that killed my enthusiasm to continue studying Dutch. Something I now regret!
Nobody ever said it such stark terms , but I when I lived in France I would speak a carefully thought out French Question and the Person would simply reply in English !
Even when you think you’re reasonable, you’re still full of crap. Most Irish people would not include our country as part of the british isles. It is irrelevant that you think it’s a geographical term. Put a stop to your arrogance. We don’t recognise it, so show some respect and stop including Ireland when you use that term.
I understand that the scottish flag provides the white outline for the red "Northern Irish" X cross, but why is there a white outline for the red English t cross? Maybe Wales can have that....
It shows the English Flag is on top, anywhere else would be completely unacceptable
There was no "Scottish people" in the fifth century, and the Irish certainly didn't exist during the fifth century.
Why do people keep making this odd mistake?
Jason Gunn-Davis Correct about Scotland but Ireland had a high king around this time and had a cohesive identity as Irish.
@@jacobomahoney8355 In fact Ireland had a high-king for over 2000 years at that time; and you can see the full list on Wikipedia. According to it and the Annals of the Four Masters Sláine mac Dela ruled from only 1 year from 1934 BC.
There was a Scottish people in the fifth century - they inhabited the island that is now called Ireland. As well as Hibernia, the Romans also called Ireland, Scotia and its inhabitants Scotti. Later, when the Dál Riada expanded to SW Scotland, they (the Romans) called Ireland Scotia Major and Scotland, Scotia minor. Of course there were no Irish in the fifth century; the term is English, a language which still did not exist. At that time, the people of Ireland communicated in Irish and when English kings and princes attended schools in Ireland they also learned Irish.
You get a few things wrong and miss a few things out.
I think you didn't emphasize the fact that the UK is s country enough
Yorkshire! Yorkshire! Yorkshire!
Where hast tha been sin' ah saw thee
Yes!!! Yorkshire!!!!!
England and Wales were not "united" willingly. Wales was invaded, more or less enslaved & then completely annexed in the 16th Century
The Welsh weren't enslaved
Enslaved? Why are you saying that, the welsh were treated kinda badly until the Tudors (During the Tudor times, even the Cornish were treated worse than the welsh)
@@sron-adharcach950 You might Like to study a little further the Tudor's were a Welsh dynasty ! So were in fact enslaving the English and the Cornish rather than the other way round
@@5888max the Welsh didn’t enslave the English but my point is similar to your first point.
@@sron-adharcach950 Nobody did any enslaving my point was that you seemed unaware that that the Tudors were not English
Oh Dear, young man, you failed in History and Geography all in one video.
Where did you do your degree in History?
Baffling!
You left out the Flight of the Earls in 1607, and the theft of their Lands in Ulster.
You left out the Plantation of Lowlands Scott's to Ireland 1640s
Ireland was never considered a part of the British Isles, this was written into books by English and Welsh Writers in the 16th century.
Please do some research before trying your luck on such videos.
Ps. Brittany in France and Great Britain, now there is the facts.
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Good song that is. Ever heard it?
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Act of union in 1704 created great Britain-the union of the COUNTRIES of England and Scotland, not just the crowns
The vision of the fighting dragons is from The Prophecies of Merlin. part of A History of the Kings of Britain by Geoffrey of Monmouth (circa 1100-1155).
There is a prophecy that the Red Dragon (Wales) will defeat the White Dragon (England)
What about Roman Britain ? I thought they were the "Britons" and not the Celts
no, the Celts were the Britons before the English invaded & used Celtic artifacts to justify their invasions of the lands they conquered. The term "British" today has been corrupted and is used to create a false sense of unity within the United Kingdom
'Celts' is a made up concept, originally by the Greeks referring to 'Keltoi' north of Macedonia, then the Romans referring to everyone north of the Alps, West of the Rhine as 'Celtae'.
So even the origins of the terminology are confused.
Are the offshore islands part of Great Britain Politically?
How about (Greater)London as city-state within the state? Of course historically speaking there is no such thing and geographically it is part of England, but it does have a population, economy etc. greater than those of Scotland, Wales, or (Northern)Ireland and all?
It does, and the rest of the UK hates it with a passion and blames all its problems on it xD
So does Yorkshire 👌
The city-state is the "City of London", Greater London is the metropolitan area that includes Westminster :D
Vincent Nadin I thought Westminster was a palace and isn't the e tire London area go to oxford or something I really don't know
Jerold Productions: a quick Google search reveals this (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_London); Greater London is an English County. Westminster is a city within the county and is the city in which sites such as the Houses of Parliament and Westminster Abbey are found. The City of London is an autonomous area within this.